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| 00:31.11 | Twingy | mill arrived |
| 00:32.07 | archivist | mill=milling machine? |
| 00:32.50 | Twingy | yep |
| 00:33.24 | Twingy | cnc too |
| 00:33.34 | archivist | nice |
| 00:34.08 | archivist | we have a toy(educational) one here at work |
| 00:34.28 | Twingy | what brand? |
| 00:34.35 | archivist | boxford |
| 00:34.39 | Twingy | ah |
| 00:34.49 | Twingy | mine is a taig with the xlyotex steppers |
| 00:34.53 | archivist | english |
| 00:36.48 | archivist | cad>dxf>cnc is fun |
| 00:40.53 | archivist | with the occasional tool breakage |
| 00:41.47 | Twingy | I'm making my own tool path editor |
| 00:44.53 | archivist | dont let the tool dwell on path changes as the boxford does, tool spring etc leaves horrid marks |
| 00:45.06 | ``Erik | O.o |
| 00:45.49 | Twingy | erik is a tool |
| 00:46.04 | Twingy | and leaves horrid marks |
| 00:46.09 | ``Erik | on your MOM |
| 00:46.10 | ``Erik | O.o |
| 00:46.12 | Twingy | with his tar irn' |
| 00:46.16 | ``Erik | heh, wow, I feel like I'm in fifth grade |
| 00:46.34 | ``Erik | it's a tar arn, tyvm |
| 00:46.35 | Twingy | DEY TUK R JBS!@ |
| 00:47.00 | ``Erik | so you got the mill today, I presume? |
| 00:47.05 | Twingy | yes |
| 00:47.09 | ``Erik | <-- scrolls up |
| 00:47.11 | ``Erik | hurrrrrr |
| 00:47.12 | Twingy | I just unboxed it |
| 00:47.15 | ``Erik | swank |
| 00:47.18 | ``Erik | tiny, ain't it? |
| 00:47.25 | Twingy | I'm feeling rather lethargic so it's just sitting there |
| 00:47.29 | ``Erik | gonna put the c&c bits on tonight? |
| 00:47.29 | ``Erik | ah |
| 00:47.29 | Twingy | yep |
| 00:47.36 | Twingy | it's very cute $1800 toy |
| 00:47.42 | Twingy | nope |
| 00:47.51 | ``Erik | the c&c motors will move without the main motor running, right? |
| 00:48.16 | Twingy | Tekrad what hex numbers are \r and \n |
| 00:48.16 | Twingy | Topangea :-D |
| 00:48.17 | Twingy | Topangea 0x13 I think is \n |
| 00:48.19 | Twingy | KostiX i bet avr is alike in some stuff |
| 00:48.21 | Twingy | Twingy "man ascii" |
| 00:48.23 | Twingy | Topangea \r might be 0x14 or something..I don't remember |
| 00:48.25 | Twingy | _Q \r == 0x0D |
| 00:48.27 | Twingy | Topangea or maybe \r is |
| 00:48.35 | ``Erik | so you can wrap some paper around a 2x4, stick a pencil in the chuck, and try to program it to draw things to debug/test? |
| 00:48.36 | Twingy | yep |
| 00:49.02 | Twingy | heh I guess, but that's too much trouble |
| 00:49.04 | ``Erik | opposed to cutting up wood or cheap aluminum stock o.O |
| 00:49.14 | Twingy | I don't need to cut anything |
| 00:49.15 | ``Erik | do you have a micrometer? |
| 00:49.20 | Twingy | meh |
| 00:49.23 | Twingy | eyeball it y0 |
| 00:49.27 | ``Erik | heh |
| 00:49.48 | ``Erik | I don't trust your eyes to measure ten thousandths :D |
| 00:49.51 | Twingy | measure once, cut twice |
| 00:50.34 | Twingy | I'll know shortly if this junk works |
| 00:50.38 | ``Erik | swank |
| 00:50.40 | Twingy | streaming tv |
| 00:50.56 | Twingy | much more interesting to me right now |
| 00:50.57 | ``Erik | you should try hand milling some basic things out of aluminum stock, imho |
| 00:51.13 | ``Erik | just to find the right spot where c&c becomes worth it |
| 00:51.13 | Twingy | go buy me a mill with hand cranks then |
| 00:51.20 | ``Erik | uh, yours doesn't have 'em? |
| 00:51.27 | Twingy | uh, cnc motors duh? |
| 00:51.38 | Twingy | you use one or the other |
| 00:51.42 | ``Erik | hrm, I've seen systems that have both... |
| 00:51.43 | archivist | press da buttons then |
| 00:51.44 | ``Erik | *shrug* |
| 00:52.01 | ``Erik | <-- actually liked milling by hand, it was theraputic or something |
| 00:52.05 | ``Erik | lathing, too |
| 00:52.05 | Twingy | you're taking more interest in this than I am :) |
| 00:52.19 | brlcad | up up down down left right left right a b a b [return] |
| 00:52.33 | Twingy | konami codes *grunt grunt grunt* |
| 00:52.41 | ``Erik | well, shit, bitch, you're talkin' about serious nostolgia stuff for me... :D 15 years ago, I was trying to figure out if that's what I wanted to do with my life |
| 00:52.42 | Twingy | ba ba select start |
| 00:53.01 | Twingy | guess you chose poorly |
| 00:53.04 | Twingy | *duck* |
| 00:53.05 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:53.24 | ``Erik | damn I feel old |
| 00:53.50 | ``Erik | <-- still highly amused by prasads reaction at finding out how old he is :D |
| 00:53.50 | Twingy | you're going to be one of the bobs |
| 00:54.05 | ``Erik | twinky, you have a real go getter attitude |
| 00:54.12 | ``Erik | I'm going to recommend that we promote you to mgmt |
| 00:54.24 | Twingy | cool, then I can fire your ass :) |
| 00:54.26 | ``Erik | <-- ducks to avoid the backhand |
| 00:54.26 | ``Erik | :D |
| 00:55.26 | Twingy | forizzle |
| 00:55.54 | ``Erik | man, I installed gnucash on my fbsd7 box, and the fucking pos segfaults on certain chart related functions :( |
| 00:56.17 | ``Erik | sean, shouldn't you be prepping a bz release? |
| 00:56.18 | Twingy | how do you feed configure arguments when it's in a port |
| 00:56.18 | brlcad | what you get for trying to manage your finances |
| 00:56.23 | brlcad | gotta just let em run free |
| 00:56.23 | ``Erik | indeed |
| 00:56.26 | ``Erik | heh |
| 00:56.34 | ``Erik | uh, I have responsibilities |
| 00:56.43 | ``Erik | I'm a "provider" now |
| 00:56.45 | Twingy | beer + car? |
| 00:56.51 | ``Erik | well, a lot less beer |
| 00:56.52 | ``Erik | but that car, yes |
| 00:56.58 | ``Erik | jason had a brat, I had a beast |
| 00:56.59 | ``Erik | :D |
| 00:57.04 | brlcad | you were sober enough to knock someone up? |
| 00:57.14 | Twingy | *psst* I think he knocked his car up |
| 00:57.25 | brlcad | he was doing something to it.. |
| 00:57.40 | ``Erik | heh, uh, she dumped me on friday, and was on the pill, haven't tagged any tail since :) |
| 00:57.45 | ``Erik | I buffed it good |
| 00:57.48 | ``Erik | polished the curves |
| 00:57.49 | ``Erik | aw yeah |
| 00:57.54 | ``Erik | got up in the tail pipes, even :o |
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| 00:58.00 | Twingy | look you scared chucks son off |
| 00:58.07 | ``Erik | hehehehe |
| 00:58.27 | Twingy | how do you feed configure args from in the port? |
| 00:58.40 | Twingy | without going into the work dir |
| 00:58.50 | Twingy | or izzat the preferred method? |
| 00:58.53 | ``Erik | um, the port might have knobs, grep for \..*if |
| 00:59.00 | ``Erik | if it doesn't, you can do something like |
| 00:59.03 | PrezKennedy | you spoke too soon! |
| 00:59.09 | ``Erik | make CONFIGURE_ARGS=--enable-wozzle |
| 00:59.11 | ``Erik | iirc |
| 00:59.21 | PrezKennedy | darn xchat and its crashing... |
| 00:59.26 | ``Erik | BitchX-1.1-final+ by panasync - FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE |
| 01:00.49 | Twingy | nah |
| 01:00.53 | PrezKennedy | bazing |
| 01:00.56 | Twingy | you just need to write a raytracer |
| 01:01.03 | ``Erik | uh, right, ... |
| 01:01.14 | Twingy | my raytracer gets all the girlz |
| 01:01.17 | ``Erik | and how much tail have you gotten since hurley burley? |
| 01:01.20 | ``Erik | none? thought so :) |
| 01:02.14 | Twingy | cool, mplayer picked up live lib |
| 01:02.21 | PrezKennedy | speaking of myspace stalkers... i knew a guy at UMBC who raped and killed a girl he met on myspace |
| 01:02.32 | ``Erik | charming |
| 01:02.38 | PrezKennedy | indeed |
| 01:02.55 | ``Erik | but if she was legal, it's not newsworthy. The story of the day is statuatory rape. |
| 01:03.01 | ``Erik | so says smacksnot. |
| 01:03.19 | Twingy | forizzle |
| 01:03.46 | Twingy | I do it for the druuuuugs |
| 01:03.59 | ``Erik | hehehehe... towlie... :D |
| 01:04.07 | ``Erik | remember to bring a towel!... wanna get high? |
| 01:04.28 | Twingy | I get high on lee's farts |
| 01:04.38 | ``Erik | y'know, I totally missed the h2g2 connection there until today after lunch... |
| 01:04.41 | ``Erik | <-- slow |
| 01:04.57 | ``Erik | oh, man, if I could set the topic... |
| 01:05.07 | PrezKennedy | Twingy is using designer drugs |
| 01:05.08 | Twingy | I had a connection to h2g2? netstat didn't say anything |
| 01:05.27 | ``Erik | :o it didn't? that SLUT! |
| 01:05.39 | Twingy | that's no way to speak about PrezKennedy |
| 01:06.03 | PrezKennedy | :'( |
| 01:06.11 | PrezKennedy | i thought you cared!!! |
| 01:06.12 | Twingy | I found a use for an apple hockey puck today |
| 01:06.24 | ``Erik | playing hockey with our canuckian friends? |
| 01:06.42 | Twingy | do I look like some kinda fucking care bear? |
| 01:06.47 | ``Erik | I don't like the hockey puck, but I do like the big pill |
| 01:07.05 | Twingy | if I were care bear I'd be the one that drinks heavily and poops on children |
| 01:07.22 | Twingy | can't remember the name of that one |
| 01:07.30 | brlcad | hahaha, damn that's good stuff.. http://brandnew.pbwiki.com/f/0000ckza.gif |
| 01:07.31 | PrezKennedy | Alcoholism bear? |
| 01:07.37 | ``Erik | party bear |
| 01:07.40 | ``Erik | "cool bear" |
| 01:07.40 | Twingy | yes, that's it |
| 01:07.50 | Twingy | and milton would be gay bear |
| 01:08.03 | ``Erik | um, except it's spelled "intarweb" |
| 01:08.04 | Twingy | haha |
| 01:08.21 | PrezKennedy | its spell Teh Intraweb! |
| 01:08.32 | ``Erik | *ghuh* should milton hop on irc and join #bearcave ? |
| 01:08.46 | Twingy | he might flood himself off the channel |
| 01:08.56 | PrezKennedy | no... i think not... not checking out that channel |
| 01:08.57 | Twingy | that would imply you're already on the channel erik? |
| 01:09.14 | ``Erik | no, I'm afraid I wasn't qualified :( |
| 01:09.22 | ``Erik | <-- not fat enough, not hairy enough, and not gay enough |
| 01:09.34 | Twingy | his laptop is fruity |
| 01:09.47 | Twingy | I was watching sean unbreak it all day |
| 01:09.57 | Twingy | he stops in every 5 minutes to see if it's fixed |
| 01:09.58 | ``Erik | that old tibook? |
| 01:10.00 | Twingy | yea |
| 01:10.15 | ``Erik | I thought an order was put in for new macbook pros? |
| 01:10.27 | Twingy | I think we should just give him that xserver in the machine room |
| 01:10.36 | ``Erik | if it weren't for some minor screen damage, I think this g4 lappie would be perfect for a few yrs yet |
| 01:10.41 | Twingy | yea, we'll get those as a retirement gift |
| 01:10.59 | Twingy | you spill another beer? |
| 01:11.03 | ``Erik | <-- not entirely sold on an xserve |
| 01:11.10 | ``Erik | apple martini... and I blame you, beeyotch |
| 01:11.11 | ``Erik | :D |
| 01:11.12 | Twingy | not even the cardboard kind? |
| 01:11.19 | ``Erik | well, teh cardboard one, sure |
| 01:11.21 | Twingy | heh, I had a few of those ove rthe weekend |
| 01:11.42 | ``Erik | but I think if you factor in things like admin time and cost of downtime, scsi is still the winnar in the server room |
| 01:11.56 | Twingy | I think cardboard hard drives trump all |
| 01:12.01 | ``Erik | I threw the idea out to a group of top tier admins, got a chunk of "yeah, what he said" |
| 01:12.14 | PrezKennedy | govt top tier? |
| 01:12.18 | ``Erik | <-- thinks sata is great at replacing pata, but it aint' up to scsi raid |
| 01:12.26 | ``Erik | no, industry, people who have clues and make good decisions |
| 01:12.58 | PrezKennedy | the first bad decision govt people make... is to join the govt |
| 01:13.14 | ``Erik | meh, it depends on the persons goal |
| 01:13.29 | ``Erik | the job stability is... not neglegible. |
| 01:13.49 | ``Erik | <-- been canned a couple times, it can happen out of teh blue and for no good reason |
| 01:13.55 | Twingy | hrm |
| 01:13.59 | ``Erik | I mean, I didn't even take down an entire network at a large isp or anything |
| 01:14.03 | ``Erik | :} |
| 01:14.12 | PrezKennedy | hahaha |
| 01:14.42 | Twingy | meh |
| 01:14.51 | ``Erik | (dynsol was due to attricion, fedex was due to petty politics) |
| 01:15.08 | Twingy | fedex has a good commercial |
| 01:15.09 | ``Erik | attrition |
| 01:15.13 | Twingy | with cavemen |
| 01:16.07 | ``Erik | hehehe, the fedex political bullshit also caused most of their top shelf minds to leave for companies like google :) |
| 01:16.18 | ``Erik | so I don't feel too awfully bad about all that |
| 01:17.38 | ``Erik | http://www.koransky.com/Other/Teletubbies.jpg |
| 01:18.36 | Twingy | checking for lt_dlopen in -lltdl... no |
| 01:18.45 | Twingy | hrm, /usr/local/share/libtool15 |
| 01:18.54 | Twingy | tried symlinking libtool15 to libtool, still aint findin' it |
| 01:20.04 | ``Erik | there's a handful of shit that has to be linked... ls /usr/local/bin/*15 might be a good starting point |
| 01:20.14 | Twingy | aight |
| 01:20.51 | Twingy | 253* too |
| 01:20.55 | ``Erik | that's one thing that pisses me off about fbsd... the peckers maintaining the ports wont' write the scripts to figure out how to link up expected names |
| 01:21.10 | ``Erik | yeah, if that's the version you use... I use libtool15, automake19, and autoconf259, usually |
| 01:21.12 | brlcad | devel/libltdl15 |
| 01:21.29 | brlcad | tis a separate port lib |
| 01:21.39 | Twingy | ah |
| 01:21.45 | ``Erik | find /usr/local/bin -type s <-- on one of the fbsd boxen I rigged up shows some of the stupid |
| 01:21.54 | ``Erik | meh |
| 01:22.20 | brlcad | ie shoulda been a dep for whatever you're building but aparently aint |
| 01:22.38 | ``Erik | you making a port of that program, justin? |
| 01:22.56 | Twingy | nope |
| 01:22.59 | Twingy | gotta get it working first |
| 01:23.08 | brlcad | ah |
| 01:23.21 | Twingy | mplayer is having trouble finding stream, with live.com support it gets further |
| 01:23.35 | Twingy | I think the rtsp://<localhost>:8554/ actually needs something after the slash |
| 01:24.04 | Twingy | damn |
| 01:24.14 | Twingy | still missing ltdl for nemesi, the client for fenice |
| 01:24.38 | Twingy | /usr/local/share/libtool15/libltdl |
| 01:25.08 | Twingy | AC_CHECK_LIB(ltdl,lt_dlopen,,\ |
| 01:25.15 | Twingy | hrmm |
| 01:25.18 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.48 | brlcad | oh, what video device is that capturing? |
| 01:26.18 | brlcad | er, what capture device did you get? |
| 01:26.52 | Twingy | bktr0 |
| 01:27.04 | Twingy | Failed to get a SDP description from URL "rtsp://192.168.1.1:8554/live": cannot handle DESCRIBE response: RTSP/1.0 415 Unsupported Media Type |
| 01:27.10 | Twingy | I don't think the stream has a name |
| 01:29.49 | Twingy | hrm, file... |
| 01:32.18 | brlcad | looks interesting http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv/ |
| 01:32.30 | brlcad | has a channel changer |
| 01:32.44 | Twingy | fxtv does as well |
| 01:32.57 | Twingy | plus capture stuff |
| 01:34.56 | Twingy | ah |
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| 01:41.10 | ``Erik | http://qdb.us/56099 |
| 01:41.14 | Twingy | the mill arrived mike |
| 01:41.16 | ``Erik | http://qdb.us/56011 |
| 01:41.21 | tegtmeye | sweet! |
| 01:41.27 | tegtmeye | and??? |
| 01:41.47 | Twingy | it's very mill'ish |
| 01:41.52 | ``Erik | http://qdb.us/56019 |
| 01:41.52 | tegtmeye | lol |
| 01:42.04 | Twingy | mplayer is borked |
| 01:42.05 | tegtmeye | all that youhoped for? |
| 01:42.15 | Twingy | I'm working on rtsp stuff |
| 01:42.23 | tegtmeye | ah |
| 01:42.50 | tegtmeye | I expected you to mill up a soda can out of recycled soda cans by now |
| 01:43.31 | Twingy | hrm, libltdl is sitting in /usr/local/lib |
| 01:45.19 | Twingy | ah |
| 01:45.23 | Twingy | fixed their configure script |
| 01:46.17 | Twingy | I might build the mill later tonight or tomorrow |
| 01:47.06 | tegtmeye | how much "some assembly necessary"? |
| 01:47.19 | Twingy | like 4 parts |
| 01:47.29 | Twingy | and then cnc portion |
| 01:47.35 | Twingy | another 4 parts |
| 01:48.07 | tegtmeye | gcc 4.1 released today... |
| 01:48.15 | tegtmeye | if anyone cares |
| 01:48.34 | ``Erik | does it still have the fuckups of the beta? o.O |
| 01:49.30 | tegtmeye | not sure, testing now... |
| 02:33.20 | Twingy | urf, so much breakage |
| 02:33.49 | pra5ad_ | does mplayer work at all w/ nvidia drivers? |
| 02:33.55 | Twingy | yea |
| 02:34.08 | pra5ad_ | special compile flags? |
| 02:34.11 | pra5ad_ | er conf |
| 02:34.14 | Twingy | newp |
| 02:34.17 | pra5ad_ | wtf |
| 02:34.19 | pra5ad_ | =( |
| 02:34.33 | Twingy | never had a problem on loonix or freebsd |
| 02:34.43 | pra5ad_ | from src? |
| 02:34.45 | pra5ad_ | or binary |
| 02:34.53 | Twingy | I compile out of ports |
| 02:34.59 | pra5ad_ | oh |
| 02:35.14 | pra5ad_ | ubuntu has no mplayer package |
| 03:59.05 | pra5ad_ | woot mplayer is working |
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| 14:34.41 | cobbaut | hi, i see on sf.net that 7.6.8 is released, but i don't see it with the downloads... |
| 15:05.14 | brlcad | cobbaut: yeah, jumped the gun by a few hours on the posting.. trouble uploading the tarball |
| 15:05.32 | brlcad | it'll be up in a few hours |
| 15:52.13 | ``Erik | heh |
| 16:05.08 | Maloeran | You may as well grab the cvs I suppose |
| 16:05.22 | ``Erik | heh, is cvs unbroken now? :D |
| 16:06.11 | Maloeran | Sourceforge sure seems to have recurrent problems with cvs |
| 16:06.47 | ``Erik | I meant the code in it, supposedly there were some fresh bugs in librt or something :) |
| 16:07.02 | Maloeran | Ah :) |
| 16:49.41 | brlcad | cvs head isn't reliable at the moment, rel-7-6-branch if you want reliable |
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| 20:06.23 | IngMan | Hi Brlcad |
| 20:09.40 | IngMan | For day I have been having the same doubt: How make gears |
| 20:18.02 | IngMan | How make gears |
| 20:40.30 | IngMan | Hi |
| 20:47.46 | IngMan | exit |
| 21:06.24 | Maloeran | That was... coherent |
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| 23:12.56 | ``Erik | spam spam spam and egg salad. |
| 23:18.41 | archivist | I saw that first time around (shows my age) |
| 23:24.01 | ``Erik | was that '76 or '77? |
| 23:24.11 | ``Erik | :) |
| 23:24.21 | brlcad | mm.. sounds yummy |
| 23:25.00 | ``Erik | (well, my parents carried me there ;) |
| 23:25.55 | archivist | maybe earlier than 76 cant remember |
| 23:26.45 | ``Erik | opengl.org pisses me off by not posting more pics by the stories... I use the pictures to see if new shit is listed :( |
| 23:28.29 | archivist | 1969-1974 |
| 23:29.10 | ``Erik | ah, heh, my bad |
| 23:29.14 | archivist | so i was 17 when it started |
| 23:29.18 | ``Erik | 76-77 must've been in the movie phase |
| 23:29.56 | ``Erik | <-- needs to buy the dvd's of the flying circuis and 4 movies... has the latest 'compilation' dvd's |
| 23:33.42 | ``Erik | heh, he has to wire in the cnc motors, then write control software |
| 23:34.36 | ``Erik | mebbe tomorrow afternoon, he'll have a psuedorocket |
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