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| 06:00.41 | *** topic/#brlcad is http://brlcad.org/ || BRL-CAD is now Free Software! || BRL-CAD Windows port has been merged to HEAD, not yet stable yet || December/January is a unified iteration to allow time for holidays || Archer is now on head, kick the tires, report any bugs |
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| 10:04.56 | clock__ | brlcad: funny comic strip about ronja -> http://ronja.twibright.com/shamrock.png |
| 10:05.04 | clock__ | brlcad: do you have comic strip about brlcad? :) |
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| 14:20.43 | brlcad | clock__: heh, maybe but none come to mind |
| 14:23.02 | clock__ | brlcad: something with m1a1 abrams :) |
| 14:24.00 | ``Erik | o.O |
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| 17:45.52 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/gtools/g_transfer.c: |
| 17:45.52 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: commit a version that walks the specified geometry both with db_walk_tree() and |
| 17:45.52 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: db_functree(). db_functree was ultimately considerably more simple for this |
| 17:45.52 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: exercise, but useful to see what was provided with db_walk_tree and the |
| 17:45.52 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: differences. add support to run the client either passing all geometry or just a |
| 17:45.53 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: subset (hence the subtree walking) |
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| 17:51.51 | clock__ | brlcad: what would you do if someone posted lots of bugreports, which would be technically correct, but would write them in a way you wouldn't like, were emotionally loaded and critical to you or the project? |
| 17:52.05 | clock__ | brlcad: would you ban the poster with a message "banned for trolling"? |
| 17:56.07 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/gtools/g_transfer.c: get rid of the db_walk_tree method since db_functree is considerably more simple for this purpose. stash the server details into our data struct. |
| 17:56.22 | brlcad | clock__: it really would depend on the language and intent |
| 17:57.04 | brlcad | if the intent was to cause trouble, they would probably either be blocked from posting or reported for abuse |
| 17:57.50 | brlcad | if they were just upset of some issue, it would get disregarded and treated like any other report |
| 17:58.24 | brlcad | more likely it would get closed/unresolved if there was insufficient details to reproduce the problem |
| 18:02.45 | clock__ | brlcad: it would be a short proposal of particular change in documentation, with lots of text why it's important which would include emotionally charged parable that would strongly criticize the current state |
| 18:06.02 | clock__ | brlcad: then you have different approach than gentoo ;-) |
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| 18:10.57 | toresbe | hey |
| 18:11.19 | toresbe | hmm. |
| 18:11.21 | toresbe | bye. |
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| 18:26.48 | kaol | hello. I'm going to package brlcad for Debian. wish me luck. ;-) |
| 18:28.28 | brlcad | excellent |
| 18:29.37 | brlcad | kaol: there was a guy that made a package for Debian back 6+ months for 7.6.0 |
| 18:30.27 | brlcad | most of the stuff is outdated now or changed (e.g. dual-licensed docs) considerably, but it might be a starting point http://scientificcomputing.net/debian/packages/brlcad/ |
| 18:30.56 | brlcad | plus wasn't too fond of the "install everything into /usr/share/brlcad part" |
| 18:31.04 | brlcad | but it was a good first stab |
| 18:31.37 | brlcad | still looking for someone interested enough to become the debian sponsor/maintainer for us, though -- I don't keep debian systems on hand readily enough myself |
| 18:31.57 | kaol | hmm. I didn't see anything about that in the request for package bug report. |
| 18:32.31 | brlcad | hmm.. i don't remember knowing that there was a request for package report ;) |
| 18:32.40 | kaol | thanks for the pointer, I'll see if there's anything I can use |
| 18:32.48 | kaol | http://bugs.debian.org/289684 |
| 18:33.40 | brlcad | thanks for the link, good to know |
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| 19:33.15 | ``Erik | grar, arms tightening up o.O |
| 19:42.52 | kaol | I've packaged a few apps from scratch and adopted a couple too. But I've done nothing of this scale yet. |
| 19:44.02 | ``Erik | is there a good webpage describing the process? debian packaging for dummies? |
| 19:45.08 | ``Erik | ahhh, the power of local.google :) with the satallite view, I can actually find the trail I walk on |
| 19:47.45 | kaol | there's the new maintainer's guide (http://www.us.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/) |
| 19:48.13 | kaol | developer's reference and the policy are the major references |
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| 19:57.07 | brlcad | we used to have automated rpm generation, there's a script stub in sh/ but i'd be surprised if it didn't need tweaking |
| 20:04.05 | ``Erik | hm, I do mine in Makefile.am with configure generating an rpm.spec from rpm.spec.in |
| 20:04.23 | ``Erik | I thought I strapped that into brlcad when I converted it to automake |
| 20:06.39 | brlcad | wow |
| 20:06.51 | brlcad | so prasad was whining, I bet |
| 20:06.58 | brlcad | his jelly legs |
| 20:11.35 | ``Erik | huh? heh, I'm not at the office, rdo |
| 20:11.54 | ``Erik | I went to the 'clubhouse' where I live, then walked the greenway |
| 20:12.00 | brlcad | ahh |
| 20:12.08 | ``Erik | <-- boggled he could get 130 up |
| 20:12.21 | brlcad | hehe |
| 20:12.26 | brlcad | already passed up pra5ad |
| 20:12.57 | ``Erik | heh |
| 20:13.00 | ``Erik | and he's bigger than me |
| 20:13.00 | ``Erik | pheer |
| 20:13.04 | ``Erik | what's he pushing? |
| 20:13.18 | ``Erik | <-- did two sets of 70, a set of 100, then 130 once, is a pussy |
| 20:14.19 | brlcad | maybe about the same, last time was about 3 sets of 10x95 iirc |
| 20:14.35 | brlcad | he's still learning his balance |
| 20:14.41 | brlcad | but making progress |
| 20:15.00 | ``Erik | can't stick him in a universal until he gets some tone? |
| 20:15.36 | brlcad | doing that too |
| 20:17.19 | ``Erik | http://www.mypyramidtracker.gov/ is interesting |
| 20:17.59 | brlcad | heh, i read about that in one of my lifting mags just last night |
| 20:18.43 | ``Erik | the ui is rough, but it's interesting |
| 20:19.08 | ``Erik | I'm gonna try to use it to help me figure out what to eat |
| 20:19.31 | ``Erik | my diet of burgers, pizza, bratwurst, and eggs is probably not entirely healthy |
| 20:19.35 | ``Erik | :) |
| 20:20.51 | ``Erik | you bastards and your gym trips, tricking me from the pure path of chuck and ed o.O |
| 20:24.03 | archivist | geeks and programmers arnt supposed to exercise afaik |
| 20:26.22 | brlcad | heh |
| 20:43.04 | ``Erik | that's an odd stereotype |
| 20:43.21 | ``Erik | we don't play team sports, but we exercise... |
| 20:43.28 | phcoder | yay, Erik, went to the gym, eh? |
| 20:43.33 | ``Erik | ayup |
| 20:43.41 | ``Erik | had to search for my proxy card, heh |
| 20:43.45 | ``Erik | been so long since I've gone |
| 20:43.50 | phcoder | keep it up. don't listen to that stuff about programmers not exercising ;-) |
| 20:44.13 | phcoder | go every day with us... |
| 20:44.28 | ``Erik | in the middle of the day? no way, that's more of a late afternoon activity |
| 20:44.40 | phcoder | it's not too bad... |
| 20:45.01 | ``Erik | plus, I'm trying to get fat, so I have to keep eating 2000 kcal greaseslop at lunch |
| 20:45.15 | phcoder | well, it won't take too long then |
| 20:47.10 | brlcad | heh, yet |
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| 22:42.53 | tegtmeye | brlcad,, you around? |
| 22:49.26 | brlcad | occasionally |
| 22:55.29 | tegtmeye | having some issues with shooting rays on brlcad |
| 22:56.16 | brlcad | i have the example extracting external forms of the geometry for transport now in the example app if you're interested |
| 22:56.19 | tegtmeye | in application str, the file has... |
| 22:56.25 | tegtmeye | a_ray.r_dirUNIT VECTOR with direction to fire in (dir cosines) |
| 22:56.34 | tegtmeye | big yep! |
| 22:56.45 | tegtmeye | ? is, what is dir cosines? |
| 22:57.27 | tegtmeye | is the code in cvs? |
| 22:57.32 | brlcad | yeah |
| 22:57.48 | brlcad | still got some more to put into it, but it shows the tree walking and getting external |
| 22:58.01 | tegtmeye | sweet! |
| 22:58.14 | brlcad | i still have to have the client form the connection, send to remote, and reform an in-memory-only .g |
| 23:03.22 | ``Erik | *burp* |
| 23:05.03 | tegtmeye | ny idea on the cosines? |
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| 23:07.23 | brlcad | not sure what's mean by the dir cosigns comment |
| 23:07.25 | brlcad | maybe he does |
| 23:07.44 | tegtmeye | who? |
| 23:07.59 | brlcad | the one that just joined ;) |
| 23:08.10 | polyspin | evening all |
| 23:08.21 | brlcad | howdy |
| 23:08.42 | polyspin | What's this about dir cosines? |
| 23:08.51 | brlcad | polyspin: a_ray.r_dirIUNIT VECTOR with direction to fire in (dir cosines) |
| 23:09.03 | brlcad | app structure, the ray |
| 23:11.07 | polyspin | This looks like a lame attempt at saying the vector is/will-be a unit length vector |
| 23:11.21 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/gtools/g_transfer.c: instead of two separate hook funcs, just use send_to_server() for both the specified geometry case and the non-specified geometry case. |
| 23:11.53 | brlcad | er, ray structure, not app |
| 23:12.09 | polyspin | If the vector is unit length, then the tuple gives the cosines of the angles in each of X, Y, Z |
| 23:12.19 | polyspin | raytrace.h right? |
| 23:12.27 | brlcad | yeah, it's a comment for the structure |
| 23:12.28 | tegtmeye | yea |
| 23:13.35 | polyspin | So for example, a vector at exactly 45deg from each axis would be 0.707, 0.707, 0.707 |
| 23:13.51 | tegtmeye | ahhhh.... |
| 23:13.53 | polyspin | Which happens to be 0.707 = cos(45) |
| 23:16.04 | ``Erik | heh |
| 23:16.10 | tegtmeye | cos 270 == cos 90 == 0 |
| 23:16.28 | tegtmeye | how do you define which way your looking on x axis? |
| 23:16.42 | tegtmeye | I'm a little lost |
| 23:16.49 | polyspin | The sign on the value. |
| 23:17.02 | tegtmeye | +0 vs -0 ?? |
| 23:17.07 | polyspin | Again, it's really just a unit length vector. Mike M was trying to be cute. |
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| 23:18.27 | polyspin | oops. Back again |
| 23:30.24 | polyspin | brlcad: Any idea when head will build again? |
| 23:51.28 | brlcad | oop |
| 23:51.30 | brlcad | he left |
| 23:53.36 | ``Erik | heh |
| 23:54.21 | pra5ad | the pain |
| 23:54.25 | pra5ad | =( |
| 23:54.28 | ``Erik | the puss |
| 23:54.58 | ``Erik | me, too |
| 23:56.53 | pra5ad | did either of u goto the 'one million particle particle system' presentation at siggraph? |
| 23:57.09 | brlcad | sounds familiar |
| 23:57.20 | brlcad | done on the card iirc? |
| 23:57.27 | pra5ad | yea |
| 23:57.36 | pra5ad | 1024^2 texture + fragment shader |
| 23:58.21 | pra5ad | impractical in real world use |
| 23:58.26 | pra5ad | but impressive nonetheless |
| 23:58.38 | pra5ad | s/impressive/ingenious/ |
| 23:58.47 | pra5ad | :o |
| 23:59.45 | archivist | what else has the bot up its sleeve |
| 23:59.45 | pra5ad | woops |
| 23:59.51 | pra5ad | twas at gdc |
