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| 04:25.50 | prasad | sean |
| 04:26.12 | prasad | 7.4.0 breaks in ubuntu-hoary |
| 04:26.20 | prasad | 32bit |
| 04:45.11 | Twingy | urf |
| 04:45.20 | Twingy | tired at 12:50 on a friday night is not good |
| 04:45.56 | Twingy | then again I think I got about 33 hours of sleep this week |
| 04:48.59 | prasad | it's the dextrose fumes |
| 04:49.06 | Twingy | nah |
| 04:49.24 | Twingy | this week was unusually demanding of me |
| 04:50.34 | prasad | i see no pics up |
| 04:51.15 | Twingy | nope |
| 04:51.25 | Twingy | I still need to process some more data |
| 04:51.33 | Twingy | and do video editing |
| 04:51.38 | prasad | fine |
| 04:51.43 | Twingy | and reformat the static field test section |
| 04:51.47 | prasad | i think im gonna join acst soon |
| 04:51.57 | Twingy | that would be cool |
| 04:52.00 | prasad | first step, finish this rtedge.v2 tool |
| 04:52.05 | prasad | ??? |
| 04:52.10 | prasad | move away from mooves |
| 04:52.10 | Twingy | profit! |
| 04:52.19 | Twingy | moooooooooves |
| 04:52.26 | Twingy | erik wants out |
| 04:52.28 | Twingy | you want out |
| 04:52.34 | Twingy | jason is tired of mgmt |
| 04:52.39 | prasad | ron wants completely out |
| 04:52.43 | Twingy | yep |
| 04:52.56 | Twingy | mgmt is now passed the point of a successful product |
| 04:53.07 | Twingy | they have officially killed it. |
| 04:53.19 | Twingy | the question will be, how long before they realize it |
| 04:53.36 | prasad | they shouldn't have screwed with it so late in the game |
| 04:54.03 | Twingy | I suspect they will get little more than a slap on the wrist and give you guys all the blame |
| 04:54.12 | prasad | of course |
| 04:54.17 | prasad | but hey |
| 04:54.25 | Twingy | does lisa know you wanna get on acst? |
| 04:54.26 | prasad | 'wendy told me to quit' |
| 04:54.42 | prasad | (which is a true statement) |
| 04:54.46 | prasad | nah |
| 04:54.52 | prasad | i think she's pissed at me |
| 04:54.55 | prasad | as it is |
| 04:54.58 | Twingy | she's pissed at everyone |
| 04:55.03 | Twingy | on M3 |
| 04:55.18 | Twingy | cause just about everyone has already told her that nobody wants to work on it anymore |
| 04:55.30 | Twingy | if you told her, that might make 100% |
| 04:55.51 | prasad | i doubt that's gonna do anything |
| 04:55.59 | prasad | pjt specifically picked ww |
| 04:56.00 | Twingy | no, not really |
| 04:56.20 | prasad | lisa wont question a pjt decision imo |
| 04:56.40 | Twingy | I'm wondering if pjt is deploying a clever tactic to let wendy fall on her face as a branch chief so he has enough stuff to use to fire her |
| 04:56.56 | prasad | heh dunno |
| 04:57.50 | Twingy | the next couple of months certainly will be interesting |
| 04:58.06 | prasad | they're trying to pile stuff on me |
| 04:58.34 | prasad | chip: 'i want to ask you if you have any other tasks that you would like to work on' |
| 04:58.34 | Twingy | if you get too much, you gotta tell them you're overburdened |
| 04:58.51 | prasad | me: 'let me ask you this; are there any tasks that havent been assigned?' |
| 04:58.55 | prasad | chip: 'no' |
| 04:58.58 | prasad | <end> |
| 04:59.09 | Twingy | heh |
| 04:59.15 | Twingy | my answer woulda been 'not muves' |
| 04:59.33 | Twingy | but I'm just straight forward like that |
| 04:59.47 | prasad | yes 'justin' |
| 04:59.52 | prasad | _the_ justin |
| 05:00.16 | prasad | i was gonna say prasad, java developer of the year |
| 05:00.19 | prasad | but u know.. |
| 05:00.22 | prasad | =) |
| 05:00.25 | Twingy | nice |
| 05:01.08 | prasad | bsg season 2 ep 1 was the shiznitz |
| 05:01.21 | Twingy | I never really got into it |
| 05:01.24 | Twingy | I think it's well done |
| 05:01.25 | prasad | tsk tsk |
| 05:01.29 | Twingy | but I can't watch tv that long |
| 05:01.38 | Twingy | no matter how good the show is |
| 05:02.29 | prasad | man implementing a 2d graph in c is painful |
| 05:03.04 | prasad | er -2d |
| 05:03.19 | prasad | a _graph_ |
| 05:03.33 | Twingy | use gnuplot |
| 05:03.55 | prasad | i meant it as in the compsci defn |
| 05:03.55 | Twingy | it's painful if you've never done it before |
| 05:04.02 | Twingy | ah |
| 05:04.12 | Twingy | matrices |
| 05:04.26 | Twingy | adjacency matrices |
| 05:04.54 | prasad | that only allows single parents, no? |
| 05:04.59 | prasad | parent* |
| 05:05.28 | prasad | i think linked list per [][] cell would work |
| 05:09.43 | Twingy | I think I'd need to know more about what the 2d graph is being used for |
| 05:10.05 | prasad | vectorized line drawing |
| 05:10.26 | Twingy | just drawing lines? |
| 05:10.30 | Twingy | using bresenham? |
| 05:10.50 | prasad | er what about it |
| 05:10.57 | prasad | rtedge generates a raster img |
| 05:10.59 | Twingy | the point is to draw 2d lines? |
| 05:11.20 | prasad | based on a csg scene in brlcad |
| 05:11.27 | Twingy | heh |
| 05:11.53 | Twingy | I should implement that as a post-processing filter into mine |
| 05:12.04 | Twingy | trivial todo |
| 05:12.22 | prasad | raster maybe trivial |
| 05:12.27 | Twingy | no, using raytracing |
| 05:12.36 | prasad | well that's what rtedge does |
| 05:12.46 | prasad | uses region boundaries and normals |
| 05:12.49 | Twingy | yah |
| 05:12.57 | Twingy | curvature tolerances, wee |
| 05:13.19 | prasad | ive stumbled upon a great excuse to not work on M3 |
| 05:14.39 | Twingy | once you finish integrating into rt you can integrate into adrt :) |
| 05:14.54 | prasad | profit! |
| 05:15.11 | Twingy | some isoparametric line drawing has been requested from my interactive tool |
| 05:15.18 | Twingy | well "wire frame viewing" |
| 05:15.31 | Twingy | but it's essentially isoparameteric line rasterization |
| 05:15.54 | Twingy | urf |
| 05:15.59 | prasad | just use a pixel shader |
| 05:16.07 | Twingy | I need to hire me some kid to do these web pages |
| 05:16.16 | Twingy | I hate writing web pages |
| 05:16.29 | prasad | dont u have an underling |
| 05:16.30 | prasad | at work |
| 05:16.43 | Twingy | nope |
| 05:16.49 | Twingy | this isn't work related though |
| 05:16.53 | Twingy | I wish it was :) |
| 05:16.59 | Twingy | that would so kick ass |
| 05:17.09 | prasad | its a secret wmrd project |
| 05:17.12 | prasad | done |
| 05:17.24 | Twingy | maybe after I hit mach-3 and sustaint a +10 second burn it'll be interesting |
| 05:17.44 | Twingy | most supersonic jets are still under mach-3 |
| 05:18.20 | prasad | firefox |
| 05:18.20 | Twingy | I need to make the jump to hybrid motors at some point |
| 05:18.29 | prasad | or maybe the mig25 |
| 05:18.35 | Twingy | these solid ones were a nice stepping stone |
| 05:19.19 | Twingy | unless I figure out a clever way of packing in longer burn times |
| 05:19.30 | prasad | u need a logarithmic ramp to max impulse |
| 05:19.32 | Twingy | I'd like to try rubber and potassium nitrate |
| 05:20.22 | prasad | 'justin? i don't know anyone named justin' |
| 05:20.48 | Twingy | I think an old tire would work well |
| 05:21.23 | Twingy | hrm, I'll have to do a little chemistry to figure out what proportions I'll need |
| 05:22.13 | Twingy | I've got some liquid plastic I'd like to try |
| 05:22.25 | Twingy | infact, I'm gonna go whip up a batch |
| 05:22.29 | Twingy | bbiab |
| 05:22.43 | prasad | ... |
| 05:48.04 | Twingy | back |
| 05:48.35 | Twingy | the reaction wasn't energetic enough to be a candidate, but I need to conduct a test after it's had time to dry |
| 05:49.04 | Twingy | I suspect the combination of that and enough pressure will result in a sub 50lb burn |
| 06:02.39 | Twingy | hrm |
| 06:02.43 | Twingy | only 470 N-s |
| 06:03.40 | Twingy | > 320 N-s, so still an I-class burn |
| 06:05.22 | Twingy | 152lb peak |
| 06:09.00 | Twingy | 2.03 seconds of > 10lb thrust burn time |
| 06:21.02 | Twingy | I got the thrust graph up now |
| 07:32.38 | brlcad | hmmm |
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| 17:48.36 | brlcad | hmm |
| 17:48.43 | brlcad | time to get back to business |
| 18:07.25 | Twingy | gotta goto the bathroom again? |
| 18:08.47 | prasad | *golfclap* |
| 18:15.35 | Twingy | the graph is up |
| 18:15.44 | Twingy | http://rt.cx/rocket/static_field_tests/2005.07.15/ |
| 18:15.50 | Twingy | going to add the videos now |
| 19:35.59 | Twingy | video is compression |
| 19:36.04 | Twingy | compressing |
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| 19:46.31 | prasad | photos arent up |
| 19:47.31 | Twingy | nope |
| 19:47.45 | Twingy | debating whether to make a thumbnails thing or not |
| 19:48.33 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/Makefile.am: report a summary on make fast too |
| 19:48.34 | brlcad | 404 |
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| 19:51.28 | prasad | sean |
| 19:51.48 | prasad | has 7.4.0 been tested on debian |
| 19:51.49 | prasad | ? |
| 19:52.00 | prasad | *compiled |
| 19:54.15 | brlcad | yeah |
| 19:54.35 | brlcad | three different ones actually |
| 19:54.45 | prasad | ./configure -> make : gives me GL errors on ubuntu |
| 19:54.59 | brlcad | common problem |
| 19:55.10 | prasad | whats the fix |
| 19:55.13 | brlcad | you probably don't have the gl dev package installed |
| 19:55.42 | brlcad | i forget what it's called, something like mesa-gl-dev |
| 19:55.53 | brlcad | or x11-gl-dev |
| 19:56.19 | Twingy | 127MB for complete video, doing a burn-only one now |
| 19:56.27 | brlcad | configure assumes gl availability right now |
| 19:56.44 | Twingy | 128MB even |
| 19:56.55 | prasad | xlibmesa-gl-dev is installed |
| 19:57.17 | prasad | ubuntu uses xorg |
| 19:57.25 | prasad | is that an issue? |
| 19:58.30 | brlcad | configure doesn't care |
| 19:58.39 | brlcad | it just expects the headers to be installed |
| 19:59.15 | brlcad | and that the headers/libs match up |
| 19:59.38 | prasad | im saying the libs maybe in another place, since it breaks when building libfb.so |
| 19:59.47 | prasad | the gl lib that is |
| 19:59.48 | brlcad | some systems make a bogus library symlink |
| 19:59.55 | brlcad | is the error a compile or link error? |
| 20:00.09 | Twingy | compressing burn-only |
| 20:00.19 | prasad | gcc -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fPIC -g -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fPIC -g -o .libs/fbserv fbserv.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib ../../src/libfb/.libs/libfb.so /home/prasad/download/brlcad-7.4.0/src/libbu/.libs/libbu.so -lc -lpthread /home/prasad/download/brlcad-7.4.0/src/libpkg/.libs/libpkg.so /home/prasad/download/brlcad-7.4.0/src/other/libtcl/.libs/libtcl8.4.so -ldl -lnsl -lz -lm -lX11 -lXi -Wl,--r |
| 20:00.20 | prasad | path -Wl,/usr/brlcad/lib |
| 20:00.20 | prasad | ../../src/libfb/.libs/libfb.so: undefined reference to `glPixelStorei' |
| 20:00.20 | prasad | ../../src/libfb/.libs/libfb.so: undefined reference to `glDrawPixels' |
| 20:00.28 | brlcad | link error |
| 20:01.00 | brlcad | locate libGL.so |
| 20:01.07 | brlcad | or libgl.so |
| 20:02.37 | brlcad | should be in /usr/X11R6/lib or /usr/X11R6/lib/GL or somesuch |
| 20:03.00 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: shipped, start off this iterations todo list with a few items. retire machinetype.sh and integrate isst for starters. |
| 20:03.02 | Twingy | k prasad, videos and photos are up |
| 20:03.06 | brlcad | one of the nvidia driver installs does install broken symlinks |
| 20:05.21 | prasad | its under /usr/X11R6/lib/nvidia |
| 20:05.40 | brlcad | wow, that's a new one |
| 20:06.04 | prasad | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-06-16 01:48 libGL.so.1.xlibmesa -> libGL.so.1.2 |
| 20:06.05 | prasad | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-06-24 00:05 libGL.so.xlibmesa -> libGL.so.1.2 |
| 20:06.10 | brlcad | the install should have made symlinks from /usr/X11R6/lib to that dir |
| 20:06.25 | brlcad | ls -la libGL.so* |
| 20:06.55 | prasad | :. ls -la libGL |
| 20:06.55 | prasad | libGLU.a libGLU.so@ libGLU.so.1@ libGLU.so.1.3 libGLw.a |
| 20:07.00 | prasad | o.O |
| 20:07.09 | brlcad | busted symlink |
| 20:08.17 | brlcad | you apparently have the gl utility, but not gl |
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| 20:08.50 | prasad | need to make a symlink to the lib in nvidia/ no? |
| 20:09.38 | prasad | this is whats in the nvidia dir |
| 20:09.40 | prasad | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 675582 2005-04-05 12:06 libGL.a.xlibmesa |
| 20:09.40 | prasad | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2378006 2005-04-05 12:06 libGLcore.a.xlibmesa |
| 20:09.41 | prasad | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 413376 2005-04-05 12:06 libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa |
| 20:09.41 | prasad | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-06-16 01:48 libGL.so.1.xlibmesa -> libGL.so.1.2 |
| 20:09.42 | prasad | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-06-24 00:05 libGL.so.xlibmesa -> libGL.so.1.2 |
| 20:09.44 | prasad | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 477946 2005-04-05 12:06 libglx.a.xlibmesa |
| 20:10.29 | brlcad | ultimately you have to have either a file or valid symlink named libGL.so or libGL.a for ld to find it |
| 20:11.19 | brlcad | "usually" if everything is set up correctly, those are symlinks in /usr/X11R6/lib to whatever driver libs you installed |
| 20:11.54 | brlcad | which in this case would be to /usr/X11R6/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa for example |
| 20:12.29 | prasad | well made symlink |
| 20:12.36 | prasad | still cant find it |
| 20:13.02 | brlcad | of course not, configure was ran before the fix |
| 20:13.27 | brlcad | where'd you make the symlink? |
| 20:13.43 | brlcad | which dir |
| 20:13.44 | prasad | /usr/X11R6/lib |
| 20:13.59 | prasad | gcc -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fPIC -g -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fPIC -g -o .libs/fbserv fbserv.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib ../../src/libfb/.libs/libfb.so /home/prasad/download/brlcad-7.4.0/src/libbu/.libs/libbu.so -lc -lpthread /home/prasad/download/brlcad-7.4.0/src/libpkg/.libs/libpkg.so /home/prasad/download/brlcad-7.4.0/src/other/libtcl/.libs/libtcl8.4.so -ldl -lnsl -lz -lm -lX11 -lXi -Wl,--r |
| 20:14.00 | prasad | path -Wl,/usr/brlcad/lib |
| 20:14.13 | prasad | i dont see a -lGL |
| 20:14.15 | brlcad | so you should get away with: make LDFLAGS="-lGL" |
| 20:14.16 | prasad | flag |
| 20:14.19 | brlcad | right |
| 20:14.30 | brlcad | that's because that comes from the configure check |
| 20:14.33 | prasad | aight |
| 20:14.46 | brlcad | configure detected that -lGL didn't work, so the makefiles are wired without it |
| 20:14.58 | brlcad | you'd have to delete your configure cache and rerun configure for it to add it |
| 20:15.03 | prasad | k |
| 20:15.48 | brlcad | configure should dump out one of it's usual "WARNING: your system is misconfigured..."-style messages or simply disable the opengl interface |
| 20:16.56 | prasad | Twingy, GIMP->resize pls |
| 20:26.32 | jrobey | you in #rt? |
| 20:26.33 | Twingy | [gotta go |
| 20:26.41 | Twingy | be back later tonight |
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| 20:39.39 | brlcad | :) |
| 21:03.06 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/pix/ (cube.rt Makefile.am): add an initial cube.rt saveview raytrace script, formerly known as the bench/pretty.sh script but now moved to pix/cube.rt instead |
| 21:05.44 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/bench/ (Makefile.am pretty.sh): the pretty.sh script is now moved from 'bench' to 'pix' dir and renamed to cube.rt |
| 21:32.56 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/bench/ (viewdiff.sh Makefile.am recheck.sh): rename recheck.sh to viewdiff.sh and rewrite it in the process, decoupling it from machinetype.sh and improving the tool checks in the process |
| 21:40.18 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/bench/run.sh: use the more generic path_to_this instead of path_to_run_sh so the var can be consistent across scripts |
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| 23:14.33 | brlcad | woot |
| 23:15.10 | brlcad | can raytrace to file and framebuffer simultaneously |
| 23:17.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/main.c: allow rt to output simultaneously to a file and to a framebuffer |
| 23:18.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/view.c: allow rt to output simultaneously to a file and to a framebuffer, allowing the -o and -F options to be combined together |
| 23:20.22 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/view_bot_faces.c: knr to ansify funcage |
| 23:22.42 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/viewedge.c: add support for simultaneous -o file and -F framebuffer output to rtedge |
| 23:24.10 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/viewxray.c: add support for simultaneous -o file and -F framebuffer output to rtxray |
| 23:27.43 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/NEWS: simultaneous -o and -F options to rt, rtedge, rtxray |
| 23:32.02 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/bench/try.sh: completely rewrite try.sh so that it basically calls the main run.sh script with the X framebuffer option, making sure that only one frame per test is displayed. |
| 23:58.12 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/sh/cray.sh: bye bye machinetype.sh, presume path is set up correctly beforehand for now |