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| 01:49.28 | PhantomBantam | Any news on the mac build? |
| 01:51.34 | brlcad | there were release delays as some discovered bugs were being worked on |
| 01:52.15 | PhantomBantam | Ah. |
| 01:52.43 | PhantomBantam | So any idea when it will be available? I don't mean to be a pest. |
| 02:14.21 | brlcad | no problem asking :) |
| 02:14.59 | brlcad | how about I post up a private tarball for you .. |
| 02:18.36 | brlcad | it'll take me a few minutes to make a fresh compile for you |
| 02:23.28 | PhantomBantam | Ooooh. That would be nice. |
| 02:24.12 | brlcad | it'll be unoptimized for now |
| 02:25.45 | PhantomBantam | Okay. |
| 02:34.10 | brlcad | 15 minutes for the upload to complete |
| 02:34.39 | PhantomBantam | How do I get to it? |
| 02:35.20 | brlcad | let you know when it's done |
| 02:36.30 | PhantomBantam | Thank you. |
| 02:37.18 | brlcad | are you at all familiar with the command line? |
| 02:37.43 | brlcad | this isn't going to be a proper graphical install, but it's easy enough to walk you through |
| 02:37.57 | PhantomBantam | A little bit. |
| 02:38.05 | PhantomBantam | I'm trying to learn more. |
| 02:51.03 | brlcad | okay, it's done |
| 02:51.14 | brlcad | run X11 from your Applications/Utilities folder |
| 02:51.21 | brlcad | that will open up an xterm window |
| 02:51.52 | brlcad | in that window type: curl -O http://ftp.brlcad.org/brlcad.tar.gz |
| 02:57.41 | skel_home | brlcad: is there an html version of that intro? |
| 02:58.14 | brlcad | hmm? |
| 02:58.17 | brlcad | did you download it yet? |
| 02:58.24 | brlcad | i.e. the curl line? |
| 02:58.29 | brlcad | that's not all you need to do |
| 02:58.44 | brlcad | there is documentation on http://brlcad.org/ |
| 02:58.54 | brlcad | see the overview and introduction to mged for starters |
| 02:59.44 | PhantomBantam | Whoops. |
| 03:00.28 | PhantomBantam | Okay. |
| 03:00.44 | brlcad | if you mean an html version of the mged introduction, no there's not .. it's normal form is actually a printed book |
| 03:01.16 | skel_home | brlcad: ok I'll try and convert it with pdf2ps -> ps2html |
| 03:01.55 | brlcad | it'll be huge :) |
| 03:02.07 | brlcad | the book is several hundred pages |
| 03:02.57 | brlcad | so after you do that curl line, type this: |
| 03:03.00 | brlcad | cd /usr |
| 03:03.18 | brlcad | sudo tar zxvf ~/brlcad.tar.gz |
| 03:03.42 | brlcad | export PATH=/usr/brlcad/bin:$PATH |
| 03:03.44 | brlcad | cd |
| 03:03.58 | brlcad | mged test.g |
| 03:04.13 | brlcad | then you should see mged kick off |
| 03:04.21 | PhantomBantam | That's it? |
| 03:06.24 | brlcad | should be it |
| 03:07.09 | brlcad | you'll want to add that PATH line to your ~/.bash_profile file to make the brl-cad tools always in your path |
| 03:08.04 | brlcad | skel_home: the cli predates the gui by a long shot :) |
| 03:09.25 | brlcad | most everything you can do on the gui can be done (and often done more quickly) on the command-line interface |
| 03:09.51 | EricWilhelm | brlcad, did you ever track-down those latex sources for the manuals? |
| 03:10.16 | skel_home | PhantomBantam: the guide I'm going through right now is really straight forward.. I think you'll like it |
| 03:11.10 | PhantomBantam | Where is it? |
| 03:11.32 | brlcad | skel_home: logical is unfortunately not what many are used to :) |
| 03:11.55 | skel_home | =/ |
| 03:12.07 | brlcad | there is the slightest hint of a mathematics and verbose information bias throughout brl-cad too |
| 03:12.09 | skel_home | I went to the gui and create menu and there is no "make shape" option |
| 03:12.32 | skel_home | err "make solid" |
| 03:13.18 | brlcad | hmm? which page of the tutorial? |
| 03:13.41 | skel_home | brlcad: page 18 |
| 03:13.47 | PhantomBantam | Is the tutorial the manual from the website? |
| 03:14.24 | skel_home | when it first walks you through making a shape with the gui and you're supposed to make sph2.s |
| 03:14.40 | skel_home | PhantomBantam: yeah that second link.. the pdf |
| 03:15.02 | brlcad | PhantomBantam: do you go through those instructions yet to install it? |
| 03:15.11 | skel_home | brlcad: I'm just as well on the cli .. I just wanted to make sure my mged wasn't missing something |
| 03:15.17 | PhantomBantam | Oh, that's downloading. |
| 03:15.23 | brlcad | ahh |
| 03:16.12 | PhantomBantam | Unfortunately, I still have dial-up. So although it will take forever, I can download it. |
| 03:18.18 | brlcad | skel_home: pdf page 18 or book page 18 ? |
| 03:19.13 | brlcad | skel_home: ahh, pdf page 18 i see it |
| 03:20.09 | brlcad | yeah, that was changed, there's no longer the separate submenu -- it's simply the entire Create menu |
| 03:20.23 | skel_home | brlcad: pdf |
| 03:21.02 | brlcad | sph is an ellipsoid |
| 03:21.28 | skel_home | book page 7 I think |
| 03:21.28 | skel_home | no 6 |
| 03:21.28 | skel_home | sorry |
| 03:21.28 | skel_home | 13. Creating a new sphere |
| 03:21.29 | skel_home | using the gui |
| 03:21.37 | brlcad | yeah, i found it |
| 03:21.47 | skel_home | brlcad: ah ok =] |
| 03:22.26 | skel_home | cool. just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on anything =P |
| 03:23.55 | brlcad | nah, there shouldn't be anything drastically different since the book except subtle movements and renamings -- and very few of those at that |
| 03:27.07 | CIA-3 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/TODO: fix reference to the Create Solid submenu in volume ii |
| 03:28.41 | skel_home | heh |
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| 03:33.43 | ThePhantomBantam | So, is it the second volume with the most meat? |
| 03:33.55 | brlcad | yes |
| 03:34.08 | ThePhantomBantam | Excellent. |
| 03:34.12 | brlcad | but that's because it starts simple and covers a lot of "newbie" ground |
| 03:34.54 | brlcad | the other volumes are much shorter, but presumes all of the basics and deal with much harder topics |
| 03:36.15 | ThePhantomBantam | Oh. |
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| 03:46.45 | ThePhantomBantam | So, can this do 2d drafting, or is it just 3D? |
| 03:47.25 | brlcad | it's primary focus is 3d solid modeling right now |
| 03:47.37 | brlcad | but there is some 2d support via the sketch primitive |
| 03:47.44 | brlcad | select create sketch on the menu |
| 03:47.56 | brlcad | when you finally get it installed, of course :) |
| 03:48.30 | brlcad | i've heard various praise/hate of qcad for 2d drafting |
| 03:58.00 | ThePhantomBantam | Is there anything like in solidworks, where you can automatically create a 2D model of the solid? |
| 03:58.43 | brlcad | for what purpose? |
| 03:58.52 | brlcad | for visualization there is -- rtedge |
| 03:59.14 | brlcad | for parametric modeling for drafting, there's not yet |
| 03:59.21 | ThePhantomBantam | Oh. |
| 04:00.17 | ThePhantomBantam | I don't need it, I was just wondering. |
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| 05:08.05 | jano | yech |
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| 16:53.24 | CIA-3 | BRL-CAD: libtool has a bug that causes a /lib/cpp sanity check failure if a C++ compiler |
| 16:53.24 | CIA-3 | BRL-CAD: is not installed. This makes the sanity test pass regardless of whether there |
| 16:53.24 | CIA-3 | BRL-CAD: is a c++ compiler by setting the c++ preprocessor to the c preprocessor. |
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| 18:02.05 | brlcad | hey |
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