irclog2html for #brlcad on 20041223

`00:36.39`	`*** part/#brlcad brlcad (~brlcad@brlcad.bronze.supporter.pdpc)`
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`03:27.03`	`jdr9109`	`good evening, all, I'm getting farther w/ cygwin build, thanks for the cvs updates`
`03:27.38`	`jdr9109`	`I just made a change to my src->conv->asc2g.c around line 328`
`03:27.59`	`jdr9109`	`cygwin doesn't have inttypes.h as a system header`
`03:28.42`	`jdr9109`	`instead, these are defined in cygwin/types.h, so I put a preprocessor conditional around it looking for definition of __CYGWIN__`
`03:29.01`	`jdr9109`	`looks to be the only place inttypes.h is used so far--still building`
`03:29.39`	`jdr9109`	`#if defined(__CYGWIN__)`
`03:29.39`	`jdr9109`	`# include <cygwin/types.h>`
`03:29.39`	`jdr9109`	`#else`
`03:29.39`	`jdr9109`	`# include <inttypes.h>`
`03:29.39`	`jdr9109`	`#endif`
`03:56.36`	`*** join/#brlcad PrezKennedy (~Matthew@pcp035019pcs.aberdn01.md.comcast.net)`
`03:56.57`	`PrezKennedy`	`http://prezkennedy.org/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=340&cid=15`
`03:57.00`	`PrezKennedy`	`for one brief second i enjoyed a MMORPG`
`04:39.46`	`PrezKennedy`	`http://www.cyberpaladin.com/~cjohnson/mike.html`
`04:40.45`	`darthJano`	`bork`
`05:01.46`	`darthJano`	`hmm`
`05:01.47`	`darthJano`	`where's learner`
`05:21.42`	`*** join/#brlcad jdr9109 (~jason@168-103-100-189.albq.qwest.net)`
`05:28.59`	`learner`	`mm..`
`05:29.10`	`learner`	`howdy folks :)`
`05:29.28`	`learner`	`PrezKennedy, that's been up for many years :)`
`05:29.40`	`PrezKennedy`	`or 3...`
`05:29.46`	`PrezKennedy`	`no wait`
`05:29.47`	`PrezKennedy`	`4`
`05:29.51`	`learner`	`at least 4`
`05:30.24`	`darthJano`	`yay!`
`05:31.07`	`learner`	`dang.. i can't stop coughing`
`05:31.12`	`darthJano`	`:(`
`05:31.45`	`jdr9109`	`heh`
`05:32.16`	`learner`	`hehe`
`05:32.22`	`darthJano`	`:D`
`05:32.32`	`learner`	`actually now it's sort of a wheezing coughing laughing ;)`
`05:32.47`	`darthJano`	`fsck you! :P`
`05:32.58`	`darthJano`	`:D`
`05:32.59`	`learner`	`heh, it's all good`
`05:33.25`	`darthJano`	`:)`
`05:40.59`	`PrezKennedy`	`wait... whos jdr9109??`
`05:41.10`	`darthJano`	`someone trying to port brlcad to cygwin`
`05:41.35`	`jdr9109`	`ah, yes, greeting from NM`
`05:41.50`	`learner`	`hrm.. inttypes..`
`05:42.00`	`PrezKennedy`	`aloha`
`05:42.08`	`jdr9109`	`got past that one by using cygwin/types.h`
`05:42.16`	`learner`	`where was that?`
`05:42.28`	`jdr9109`	`let me find it, one sec`
`05:43.16`	`jdr9109`	`other->libtk->generic->default.h`
`05:43.43`	`jdr9109`	`sorry, wrong place`
`05:43.48`	`learner`	`i'll be sure to verify the build tonight too.. it's not been fully validated since before all the open source changes`
`05:44.19`	`learner`	`was gonna say.. tcl/tk should require no modifications except perhaps to configure.ac for missing defines`
`05:44.42`	`learner`	`i saw your message about win/ include dir .. that's a configure.ac problem`
`05:44.45`	`jdr9109`	`cool--the above location needed line 21 to point to ../win/tkWinDefault.h"`
`05:44.53`	`jdr9109`	`ah, k`
`05:45.22`	`jdr9109`	`I need to get better familiar w/ automake in gnu--used to ant and such`
`05:48.04`	`PrezKennedy`	`ahhh programming speak`
`05:48.26`	`darthJano`	`yes`
`05:48.32`	`darthJano`	`programspeak`
`05:48.43`	`PrezKennedy`	`yeah it was givin me chills`
`05:48.46`	`PrezKennedy`	`i had to /clear`
`05:49.11`	`darthJano`	`wow`
`05:49.12`	`learner`	`oh, neat .. /clear worked here too`
`05:49.17`	`darthJano`	`wish I thought of that, too`
`05:51.37`	`jdr9109`	`heh, I thought this was the place for program speak`
`05:51.49`	`jdr9109`	`src->conv->asc2g.c`
`05:52.55`	`PrezKennedy`	`10 PRINT "HELLO"`
`05:52.58`	`PrezKennedy`	`:-D`
`05:53.01`	`jdr9109`	`is where inttypes.h is referenced--I surrounded by conditional--maybe a config thing too`
`05:53.12`	`jdr9109`	`<reply>Hello there </reply>`
`05:53.29`	`learner`	`20 GOTO 10`
`05:53.47`	`darthJano`	`hahah`
`05:53.52`	`darthJano`	`learner, remember bomb.c ???`
`05:53.52`	`jdr9109`	`lol`
`05:53.52`	`darthJano`	`:D`
`05:54.11`	`darthJano`	`you and jason did that malloc thing in the lab and ran it 5 minutes before the deadline :D :D :D`
`05:54.17`	`learner`	`darthJano, bomb.c.. what about it??`
`05:54.18`	`darthJano`	`hahahahaha`
`05:54.22`	`darthJano`	`rofl`
`05:54.36`	`learner`	`ooh, the memory gobbler thing? :)`
`05:54.42`	`darthJano`	`yeah`
`05:54.45`	`learner`	`hehe`
`05:54.46`	`darthJano`	`tee hee`
`05:54.53`	`darthJano`	`that was frickin' awesome!!`
`05:54.54`	`learner`	`silly jhunix`
`05:54.58`	`darthJano`	`hehehe`
`05:55.12`	`darthJano`	`it wasn't jhnuix`
`05:55.14`	`darthJano`	`it was hops`
`05:55.20`	`darthJano`	`the one for the cs students`
`05:55.22`	`learner`	`it was also jhunix ;)`
`05:55.32`	`darthJano`	`ah`
`05:55.39`	`learner`	`it was all of the servers actually..`
`05:55.46`	`darthJano`	`you mean you went and knocked out those servers without me?!?!`
`05:55.48`	`darthJano`	`WTF?!?!`
`05:55.50`	`learner`	`easy to bring to their knees that way :)`
`05:55.52`	`darthJano`	`I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS!`
`05:56.01`	`learner`	`hah`
`05:56.07`	`darthJano`	`easy to bring them to their knees you say?`
`05:56.08`	`darthJano`	`hmmm`
`05:56.12`	`darthJano`	`i wonder if it works on women`
`05:56.39`	`learner`	`hmm.. maybe if I print out the code, drop the paper, and ask them to pick it up..`
`05:56.49`	`darthJano`	`:D`
`05:57.03`	`learner`	`while they're down there.. ahem`
`05:57.04`	`darthJano`	`just put the letters, "r u n" on it`
`05:57.10`	`darthJano`	`have them say it aloud`
`05:59.16`	`learner`	`jdr9109, oop, i believe that inttypes.h include might have just been a recent testing mistake commit`
`05:59.34`	`jdr9109`	`ah, ok`
`06:06.13`	`CIA-5`	`BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/asc2g.c: oop, that inttypes.h include wasn't supposed to get commited.`
`06:08.53`	`learner`	`distcc would be sweet too..`
`06:10.32`	`jdr9109`	`heh, I'm getting a strange error in if_ogl.c (libfb) -- complaining about unknown reference to _shmget at 457`
`06:11.01`	`learner`	`makes sense.. you don't have shared memory`
`06:11.23`	`learner`	`at last in the shmem sense..`
`06:12.03`	`learner`	`compile error or link error?`
`06:12.34`	`jdr9109`	`tru 'nuff`
`06:12.44`	`jdr9109`	`compile--unresolved symbol`
`06:12.53`	`jdr9109`	`problem is i don't see that symbol anywhere`
`06:13.10`	`jdr9109`	`ah, nope, I lied`
`06:13.19`	`jdr9109`	`after all the complaining, it was ld`
`06:13.53`	`jdr9109`	`lots of shared memory unavailable`
`06:13.55`	`learner`	`used in 5 places in that file.. if( (SGI(ifp)->mi_shmid = shmget( SHMEM_KEY, size, 0 )) < 0 ) { for example`
`06:14.15`	`jdr9109`	`yeah, those would be the lines being flagged`
`06:15.38`	`jdr9109`	`damn eclipse takes forever to do file searches`
`06:15.38`	`learner`	`probablem is you shouldn't be compiling that file..`
`06:16.06`	`learner`	`the problem's been fixed on win32.. have to remove those calls and rework some of the code for windows`
`06:16.14`	`learner`	`it's been done in if_ogl_win32.c`
`06:17.16`	`jdr9109`	`ah`
`06:17.17`	`learner`	`this is a stab in the dark.. by try replacing if_ogl.c with if_ogl_win32.c (i.e. rename the latter to the prior (after saving a backup))`
`06:17.57`	`jdr9109`	`k, I'll try--btw, what kind of rendereing capabilities are in brl-cad--does it offload anything to a graphics card or do everything on the cpu?`
`06:18.07`	`learner`	`if_ogl_win32 will potentially replace if_ogl.c .. but it's not well tested yet`
`06:18.17`	`jdr9109`	`understood`
`06:18.36`	`learner`	`depends which graphics system you're referring to`
`06:18.47`	`learner`	`the raytracing is all done on the cpu`
`06:18.59`	`learner`	`visualization in mged is cpu and graphics card`
`06:19.11`	`learner`	`uses opengl for the editor`
`06:19.40`	`learner`	`that framebuffer interface is an opengl framebuffer interface`
`06:20.08`	`learner`	`so all pixel/buffer manipulations are via ogl calls`
`06:21.09`	`learner`	`there are framebuffers and display managers.. both have numerous ogl and non-ogl implementations`
`06:21.45`	`learner`	`fb's are pretty much for visualizing 2d graphics, dm's are for 3d and 2d`
`06:22.20`	`jdr9109`	`gotchya, thanks`
`06:22.32`	`jdr9109`	`rebuilding now`
`06:26.26`	`darthJano`	`dum dum dum`
`06:26.32`	`darthJano`	`dum dee dum dum dee dum`
`06:26.50`	`jdr9109`	`good thing for laptops and direct tv`
`06:27.37`	`jdr9109`	`this is much quicker on my work machine--very nice boxes we just built`
`06:31.43`	`learner`	`yeah.. i need to upgrade soon..`
`06:31.56`	`learner`	`configure takes just a couple seconds at work.. takes many minutes here`
`06:32.24`	`learner`	`course compilation just takes a couple minutes at work too :)`
`07:00.56`	`*** join/#brlcad jdr9110 (~jason@168-103-100-189.albq.qwest.net)`
`07:01.30`	`jdr9110`	`can't find PIXELFORMATDESCRIPTION`
`07:02.22`	`CIA-5`	`BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: revert the java flag additions.. they don't need to get added for every binary (plus they broke the darwin build)`
`07:05.20`	`learner`	`eh, hrm?`
`07:06.27`	`learner`	`i don't see a hint of PIXELFORMATDESCRIPTION`
`07:06.50`	`learner`	`ah, perhaps: PIXELFORMATDESCRIPTOR`
`07:07.30`	`jdr9110`	`maybe I mistyped`
`07:07.43`	`jdr9110`	`PIXELFORMATDESCRIPTOR`
`07:07.48`	`jdr9110`	`yup, sure did`
`07:08.14`	`jdr9110`	`did a search in source and can't find a definition`
`07:08.20`	`learner`	`http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/opengl/ntopnglr_73jm.asp`
`07:08.53`	`learner`	`part of wgl..`
`07:08.57`	`learner`	`perhaps a header is missing`
`07:09.27`	`jdr9110`	`ah`
`07:09.55`	`learner`	`try #include <wingdi.h>`
`07:11.26`	`jdr9110`	`alright`
`07:12.05`	`learner`	`implies that you'll need to link against gdi32.lib too`
`07:14.15`	`jdr9110`	`k, I hate to cut out early, but the wife becons--time for bed for me--I'll hit it tomorrow`
`07:14.25`	`jdr9110`	`make sure my gl is setup properly`
`07:14.33`	`learner`	`alternatively, skip trying to compile the ogl interface (it's not required) for now by removing the -DIF_OGL from configure.ac and the if_ogl.c in the src/libfb/Makefile.am .. so long as there's just one if_*.c being built you will be able to proceed`
`07:14.50`	`learner`	`okie dokie`
`07:14.54`	`jdr9110`	`ah, ok`
`07:15.05`	`learner`	`i'll be around half of tomorrow.. then have to finish the christmas shopping`
`07:15.39`	`learner`	`then back late night again ;) I'm a night guy`
`07:15.49`	`jdr9110`	`k, I start vacation tomorrow, so I'll try in the morning barring any house tasks`
`07:15.56`	`jdr9110`	`heh, I'm more of a morning person, but I'll catch up w/ you`
`07:16.30`	`learner`	`were it not for holidays, I'm generally on irc all of the time regardless`
`07:17.13`	`jdr9110`	`cool beans, ttyl`
`07:17.22`	`learner`	`cya`