| 05:25:45 | pmisfit | aaah. what a relief. just built a 38k4 blob instead of the default 115k2. |
| 05:26:10 | pmisfit | works great with my ancient terminal server with the crappy uart that couldn't deal with 115Kbps |
| 05:26:56 | pmisfit | shares a happy moment |
| 06:14:17 | pmisfit | is away: nite-nites |
| 07:11:13 | hugendubl | Good moring |
| 07:13:27 | mmatten__ | morning |
| 08:13:02 | hugendubl | mmatten:willst du einen Einbrecher auf meiner Maschine jagen? |
| 08:13:25 | hugendubl | ich hab leider mal wieder ein paar Tage keine Zeit. |
| 08:43:18 | erikm | morning |
| 10:23:36 | Sammy | hi all |
| 10:33:11 | erikm | hello Sammy |
| 10:55:08 | Sammy | hello erikm |
| 10:55:24 | Sammy | how is the weater ? |
| 10:55:49 | Sammy | raining all day here .... |
| 10:56:05 | Sammy | :( |
| 11:38:17 | Sammy_wms | Ammm... |
| 11:39:06 | Sammy_wms | cute . this tool is IRC Toons |
| 11:40:11 | hugendubl | Hi |
| 11:43:51 | erikm | Sammy: pretty nice weather. cloudy but the sun shines. bit cold, though (11 C) |
| 12:08:47 | KuEdE | hi guys |
| 12:10:28 | mmatten | hi |
| 12:10:30 | erikm | hmm, it's becoming crowded over here |
| 12:10:31 | erikm | ;) |
| 12:12:11 | KuEdE | is it right, that chkmem fails on blob 2.0.5-pre2... ? |
| 12:12:16 | KuEdE | i gets freezed |
| 12:13:53 | KuEdE | I think it overwrites its own mem where blob's running.... |
| 12:15:57 | erikm | KuEdE: very well possible |
| 12:16:25 | erikm | KuEdE: you might want to try diag |
| 12:16:38 | erikm | KuEdE: or the latest CVS version of blob. |
| 12:16:53 | KuEdE | oups... |
| 12:17:05 | KuEdE | i added my hardware to 2.0.5-pre2 |
| 12:17:27 | KuEdE | ill send u my diffs when im really sure everything is ok |
| 12:18:30 | KuEdE | when i set the lower base of memtest (+ 0x1000) or so... then it works well |
| 12:18:41 | KuEdE | i mean the test-region |
| 12:19:45 | KuEdE | ahh... ( +0x10000) |
| 12:19:53 | erikm | KuEdE: so it's just a matter that blob gives you too much rope to shoot yourself in the foot? ;) |
| 12:20:29 | KuEdE | :-))) |
| 12:20:45 | KuEdE | but now... linux works well with the lart ramdisk |
| 12:36:53 | erikm | nice |
| 12:36:57 | erikm | continues hacking |
| 12:37:32 | KuEdE | ill add a rgb ramp test to lcd.c |
| 14:11:06 | seletz | hi again |
| 14:11:18 | seletz | got his new digital scope :) |
| 14:13:32 | erikm | seletz: ooh, cool. what brand/type? |
| 14:14:01 | seletz | erikm: agilent 54621D |
| 14:14:19 | seletz | erikm: 2 analog channels _plus_ 16 digital channels :) |
| 14:15:11 | seletz | erikm: 60MHz and 200MS/s (i know, 60MHz is a bit, well, low. But i think it'll do for me:) |
| 14:16:27 | erikm | seletz: agilent... that's HP, right? |
| 14:17:00 | seletz | erikm: yup, it semms so. All equipment shipped is from HP (probes etc.) |
| 14:17:46 | erikm | hmm agilent.com has a broken firewall. doesn't like the ECN bit set |
| 14:17:52 | seletz | erikm: i hope to get rid off my nasty irq lost bug when using PCMCIA/SA1111 |
| 14:18:03 | seletz | erikm: want a PDF? |
| 14:18:36 | erikm | nah, just turned off ECN |
| 14:19:24 | erikm | hmm. are the 16 digital channels sampled, or do they mean it's a logic analyser? |
| 14:20:22 | seletz | erikm: well, you can for ex trigger on patterns, i2c frames etc |
| 14:20:45 | seletz | erikm: they mean it as some "mixed" concept i think |
| 14:21:46 | seletz | erikm: neat: 8MB ram |
| 14:22:08 | erikm | seletz: ok, got the pdf. it's a logic analyser as well. neat |
| 14:22:24 | seletz | playin round and trying to capture IIC frames |
| 14:22:50 | erikm | lol, happy hacking :) |
| 14:23:12 | erikm | (it's just like a little kid with a new LEGO box ;) |
| 14:23:40 | seletz | :) |
| 14:23:41 | seletz | yup |
| 14:24:18 | seletz | erikm: no really: I _still_ have this nasty IRQ bug. |
| 14:24:44 | erikm | I know |
| 14:24:54 | erikm | btw, do you still have an assabet? |
| 14:25:14 | erikm | seletz: or wait. *any* sa1110 design would do. |
| 14:25:28 | erikm | seletz: you could debug the clock scaling bug with this scope |
| 14:27:23 | seletz | erikm: 1) yup have an assabet |
| 14:27:48 | seletz | erikm: Give me some hints and I'll be happy to help |
| 14:27:50 | seletz | :) |
| 14:27:54 | seletz | prpplague: hi |
| 14:28:14 | prpplague | seletz: morning |
| 14:28:23 | seletz | erikm: You mean the bug "below XXX mhz assabe does not work" |
| 14:28:38 | prpplague | seletz: hey did you have an approximate size of the board we are looking at? |
| 14:28:48 | prpplague | erikm: is jdb attending OLS too? |
| 14:28:48 | erikm | seletz: yes, that one. |
| 14:28:53 | seletz | prpplague: yup, was in the mail :) |
| 14:28:56 | erikm | prpplague: not that I know |
| 14:29:04 | seletz | prpplague: 85x85mm^2 |
| 14:29:20 | erikm | prpplague: afaik he has a conference somewhere else at that time |
| 14:29:20 | prpplague | seletz: ok, must have over looked it |
| 14:29:28 | prpplague | erikm: ohh |
| 14:29:39 | seletz | pity |
| 14:30:36 | erikm | I just mailed him |
| 14:30:50 | seletz | cool |
| 14:31:35 | prpplague | i need to email about our little board that seletz and i have been discussing |
| 14:32:33 | erikm | btw, trizeps patch looks OK to me. just needs some minor cleanups |
| 14:32:47 | seletz | prpplague: well, cool. Would be nice if we could join forces :) |
| 14:33:11 | prpplague | erikm: who submitted a trizeps patch? |
| 14:37:19 | erikm | prpplague: wolfgang mueller |
| 14:37:51 | prpplague | erikm: ohh, i thought you ment someone on #blob |
| 14:38:02 | prpplague | needs more coffee |
| 14:38:27 | prpplague | the beer fairy visited me last night with 6 new(to me) brews |
| 14:39:38 | seletz | lol |
| 15:04:20 | seletz | prpplague: any news from your management guys? You said something about meetings .... |
| 15:04:52 | prpplague | seletz: ya we are still working on the budget for the $200k for the project |
| 15:06:04 | seletz | prpplague: sorry, i dont quite understand you here. You mean you talk about budgets with them? Sorry for bugging |
| 15:06:41 | prpplague | seletz: ya, we have to go over the money vs. benifits |
| 15:07:19 | seletz | prpplague: so at last no decision agains yet? Fine. |
| 15:07:56 | prpplague | seletz: most of our projects come in under $50k, so we have to go through a process of approval for the $200k |
| 15:07:56 | seletz | getting coffee (lots of it...) |
| 15:08:37 | prpplague | seletz: we won't get a final yes/no until around first of july |
| 15:09:23 | prpplague | seletz: if the project was less the $50k i could push it through |
| 15:13:31 | seletz | prpplague: ok, fine. 1st of july: Canada day. For how long do you intend to stay in Ottawa? |
| 15:18:21 | prpplague | june 25-30 |
| 15:18:53 | prpplague | seletz: i was going to get there early for the beer festival, but looks like i can't |
| 15:19:41 | prpplague | seletz: i'll have to settle for visiting some of the brew pubs |
| 15:20:33 | seletz | prpplague: 1st of july is canada day, so we stay until 2nd of july. |
| 15:21:12 | mmatten | (having a hangover during 10h flight is probably not a good idea tho) |
| 15:21:22 | seletz | prpplague: sure we find time to visit some pubs :) |
| 15:23:00 | prpplague | seletz: i've budgeted $2k for a beer fling for the arm-linux group |
| 15:23:15 | seletz | ahhhhh |
| 15:23:46 | mmatten | omg *twitch* |
| 15:25:06 | erikm | prpplague: ajh is still looking for some small sponsors for a couple of parties. if there is any budget left... |
| 15:25:23 | prpplague | doh |
| 15:25:49 | seletz | erikm: hmm, how "small" could this be? |
| 15:25:57 | _rmk_ | did someone mention beer? 8) |
| 15:26:00 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:26:02 | mmatten | lol |
| 15:26:05 | erikm | hello _rrmk_ |
| 15:26:05 | seletz | lol |
| 15:26:10 | erikm | s/rr/r/ |
| 15:26:49 | prpplague | _rmk_: yes, i'm going to "sponsor" a arm-linux-beer BOF at OLS |
| 15:26:49 | _rmk_ | morning/afternoon/evening/night |
| 15:27:14 | seletz | arm-linux-berr: lol |
| 15:27:27 | _rmk_ | when are people going to be arriving/leaving OLS ? |
| 15:27:39 | erikm | _rmk_: I haven't booked a flight yet |
| 15:27:56 | erikm | _rmk_: want to do it at friday |
| 15:28:10 | seletz | 25 of june arrival, 2nd of july departure |
| 15:28:40 | seletz | (just for me and mmatten, that is) |
| 15:29:12 | prpplague | same here |
| 15:29:15 | _rmk_ | I'm looking at 22nd/23rd to the 2nd |
| 15:29:18 | prpplague | on the 25 of june |
| 15:29:31 | prpplague | _rmk_: you can go to the beer festival! |
| 15:30:10 | seletz | _rmk_: want to see crazy canadians at canada day, eh? :) |
| 15:30:18 | _rmk_ | prp: make sure it doesn't clash with any event that ajh plans tho. |
| 15:30:34 | _rmk_ | seletz: ajh recommended it... we'll see. |
| 15:31:00 | prpplague | _rmk_: ya, i wan't planning on hammering it in stone, just when we can get most everyone together |
| 15:32:54 | prpplague | erikm: think i need to contact ajh about it? |
| 15:34:27 | _rmk_ | prp: its probably a good idea anyway. |
| 15:35:01 | prpplague | _rmk_: seletz and i are in discussion about producing a sa-1110 based module similar to the trizeps, what do you think the demand for a product like that is? |
| 15:35:01 | prpplague | _rmk_: ok, i'll drop an email |
| 15:37:00 | seletz | _rmk_: specs: SA1110, UCB1300, 64MB SDRAM, 16MB flash, roughly 85x85mm^2, AMP SMD connectors 2x200 pins 0.8 pitch, HW watchdog. |
| 15:40:20 | _rmk_ | seletz: shrug - there's lots of sa1110 based stuff out there already, and I don't track what sells/what doesn't sell. |
| 15:40:56 | seletz | _rmk_: np, was just a question :) |
| 15:43:52 | prpplague | _rmk_: np, thanks |
| 15:50:26 | seletz_ | oops, network hiccups |
| 15:53:52 | _rmk_ | seletz: must be all that beer. 8) |
| 15:54:28 | seletz_ | _rmk_: yup, could be :) Had some kilkennys lastly :) |
| 15:58:56 | prpplague | seletz_: i had this last night - http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBeer.asp?BeerID=811 |
| 15:59:16 | prpplague | brb |
| 16:02:02 | mmatten_ | is going home now |
| 16:15:43 | seletz | stopped playin around, reading digital scopes user manual |
| 16:22:19 | prpplague | seletz: if all else fails, read the manual, lol |
| 16:22:56 | Russ | morning _rmk_ |
| 16:24:47 | _rmk_ | afternoon/whatever |
| 16:27:43 | seletz | prpplague: nah, quite simple operation, but _lots_ of functions. Currently going through the tutorial. RTFM, so to say. |
| 16:37:21 | prpplague | seletz: lol |
| 16:40:34 | prpplague | what kind of numbers of folks you think will be there from the arm-linux group? |
| 16:41:32 | erikm | prpplague: l can count to 9 right now, and that's including you, me, seletz and matten |
| 16:43:10 | erikm | goes home |
| 16:43:11 | erikm | bye |
| 17:02:34 | prpplague | well i guess i should figure about 30-35, that sound accurate to you guys? |
| 17:09:14 | hugendubl | hi |
| 17:17:51 | seletz | prpplague: hmm, what do you mean? 30-35 ppl? |
| 17:25:51 | mmatten|home | seletz: and does it work ? :) |
| 17:32:25 | seletz | mmatten|home: yup |
| 17:32:47 | seletz | mmatten|home: just triggered onto address 0x51 |
| 17:32:59 | seletz | mmatten|home: capturing works, too |
| 17:33:16 | mmatten|home | ah nice :) the whole sequence or just single bit ? |
| 17:33:18 | seletz | mmatten|home: you only have to specify "single" mode: Single shot mode |
| 17:33:23 | mmatten|home | good |
| 17:33:32 | seletz | mmatten|home: no, the whole sequence |
| 17:34:00 | seletz | mmatten|home: based on the actual dt/div |
| 17:34:20 | mmatten|home | and do the bits arrive as they should ? |
| 17:34:27 | seletz | mmatten|home: so one has to be careful to select the right dt/div |
| 17:34:30 | seletz | mmatten|home: hmmm |
| 17:34:38 | seletz | mmatten|home: well, hmmm |
| 17:34:57 | seletz | counting bitd to decode iic address |
| 17:38:48 | seletz | mmatten|home: yup, it's 0x51 7 bit |
| 17:52:53 | seletz | wonders who's the right purple plague :) |
| 17:55:33 | prpplague_ | lol |
| 17:56:15 | hugendubl | B4N |
| 17:56:57 | prpplague_ | seletz: follow the smell of hot solder and beer |
| 17:57:06 | seletz | lol |
| 17:57:13 | mmatten|home | :) |
| 17:58:17 | seletz | mmatten|home: grrr, there's another rtc driver in drivers/char/ which gets compiled in if SA1100_RTC is set |
| 17:58:45 | seletz | mmatten|home: guess where hwclock got the date from :( |
| 17:59:16 | mmatten|home | 2 possibilities: some hidden chip i don't know of, or the szstems date |
| 17:59:43 | seletz | mmatten|home: 1) wrong 2) right |
| 17:59:54 | mmatten|home | but the time differed |
| 17:59:55 | seletz | mmatten|home: the sa1100 has timer registers :( |
| 18:00:01 | mmatten|home | it was off for almost 30 seconds |
| 18:00:21 | seletz | mmatten|home: hwcklock wrote to the timer regs |
| 18:00:24 | mmatten|home | arr... |
| 18:02:26 | prpplague_ | argh, i need to make my hotel reservations, but i don't know where |
| 18:02:46 | mmatten|home | we took the one from the OLS page |
| 18:02:59 | mmatten|home | but nevermind using the webinterface.... |
| 18:03:14 | seletz | prpplague_: why dont you take the same? |
| 18:03:31 | prpplague_ | seletz: just seems a waste getting such a large room for one person |
| 18:03:42 | seletz | mmatten|home: btw, i got an FAX answer, everything ok |
| 18:03:43 | prpplague_ | seletz: guess i will anyway |
| 18:04:10 | seletz | prpplague_: yup, the confirmation i got said "# of persons: 3" |
| 18:04:25 | seletz | prpplague_: so i guess the rooms are _big_ |
| 18:05:29 | mmatten|home | ah they did send ? |
| 18:05:36 | seletz | prpplague_: if it wasn't just one queen-sized bed i'd offer you to share the rooms, but ... |
| 18:05:45 | seletz | mmatten|home: yup |
| 18:06:09 | mmatten|home | hehe |
| 18:06:20 | mmatten|home | no he will not sleep on my pullout sofa! :) |
| 18:06:53 | seletz | hmmm, i thought about that |
| 18:06:54 | seletz | lol |
| 18:06:55 | seletz | :) |
| 18:06:57 | prpplague_ | lol |
| 18:07:00 | mmatten|home | .... |
| 18:07:08 | mmatten|home | :> |
| 18:07:13 | prpplague_ | well, i'm going to lunch, bbiaf |
| 18:07:21 | seletz | maaahlzeit |
| 18:17:27 | seletz | hacking blob |
| 18:23:12 | mmatten|home | confused |
| 18:23:47 | mmatten|home | my m$ word just tried to act as a sever (according to my firewall) i haven't started it in MONTHS! |
| 18:24:53 | seletz | eeek |
| 18:24:56 | seletz | M$ word |
| 18:25:33 | seletz | anyone here ever used param blocks in blob? |
| 19:12:06 | prpplague_ | seletz: negative, i'm still hard coding alot of stuff |
| 19:24:07 | Russ | seletz: I have |
| 19:24:13 | Russ | hello prpplague |
| 19:24:26 | seletz | Russ: :) guess you coded it, no? |
| 19:24:35 | Russ | yup |
| 19:25:29 | seletz | Russ: i checked out mkparamblock, and used it to create a param block file :), now, how do i get this into flash? |
| 19:25:45 | Russ | just like with the ramdisk and kernel |
| 19:25:49 | seletz | Russ: do i have to do some dd tricks? |
| 19:25:56 | Russ | dd? |
| 19:26:00 | seletz | hmmm |
| 19:26:02 | seletz | remembers |
| 19:26:07 | Russ | uuencode |
| 19:26:48 | seletz | Russ: yes, some sort of dd ing blob and param blocks together and flashing them, never mind |
| 19:27:02 | Russ | not that I know of |
| 19:27:06 | Russ | just download param |
| 19:27:08 | Russ | flash param |
| 19:27:14 | Russ | as long as everything is setup right |
| 19:27:26 | seletz | Russ: ok, so i need to specify a address for it in my arch/system3.h |
| 19:27:44 | Russ | seletz: ya, you probably want it on a seperate erase block |
| 19:27:54 | seletz | ok |
| 19:27:57 | Russ | unless you want to do the dd thing, and flash blob and the param block together |
| 19:28:05 | seletz | eer |
| 19:28:07 | seletz | no |
| 19:28:10 | seletz | :) |
| 19:28:17 | Russ | might make sense in production |
| 19:28:28 | seletz | yup |
| 19:29:18 | seletz | btw, i added some more commands, for flashing and erasing. And a arbitary xmodem file dl command |
| 19:29:47 | seletz | will CVS commit in the next few minutes |
| 19:30:18 | _rmk_ | umm, the param blocks/tagged list is supposed to be built by the boot loader... user changeable stuff should be via the kernel command line. |
| 19:31:12 | seletz | _rmk_: yup |
| 19:33:16 | _rmk_ | I get worried when people start sticking them in flash |
| 19:34:45 | seletz | _rmk_: the paramblock i need would only contain autoboot wait time, ethernet hw address and similar stuff. Eventually a default command line. So nothing of interest for the "normal" user. |
| 19:35:34 | seletz | _rmk_: this stuff should be "hidden" from the normal user IMHO. Too dangerous if they start to fiddle around with that. |
| 19:35:41 | _rmk_ | ah, different param block 8) |
| 19:36:37 | seletz | oops |
| 19:36:41 | seletz | yes :) |
| 19:37:38 | _rmk_ | continues to twiddle fingers while bk rattles the disks |
| 19:38:25 | seletz | _rmk_: my PCMCIA IRQ problems are not quite resolved. We have modified our board to separate IRQs (i.e. SA1111 and the rest), this helped a bit, but i get still lost Interrups |
| 19:39:08 | _rmk_ | on 2.5 ? |
| 19:39:17 | seletz | _rmk_: I got my digital scope today, so i'll soon be able to debug this, so more info to follow. But i tend to blame the IDE drivers |
| 19:39:40 | seletz | _rmk_: no, on 2.4. |
| 19:39:59 | _rmk_ | well, don't forget 2.4 has the old irq handling code. |
| 19:40:08 | seletz | _rmk_: but i separated the whole IRQ stuff |
| 19:40:45 | seletz | _rmk_: yes, you're right. |
| 19:43:18 | seletz | _rmk_: is there a general way to interface a RTC clock to the kernel? I mean, some API? Or do i just hook to linux/arch/arm/kernel/time.c::set_rtc |
| 19:43:27 | seletz | (sorry for bugging) |
| 19:45:56 | _rmk_ | not really - the kernel set_rtc isn't guaranteed to set the complete time anyway |
| 19:46:10 | seletz | ugh |
| 19:46:30 | _rmk_ | set_rtc is only really designed for keeping the RTC in sync (with small updates) when you're running NTP |
| 19:47:45 | seletz | So, what's the "Right Thing To Do" when it comes to a RTC clock? I have a iic RTC, i modified the acorn RTC stuff for that. The driver works AFAIK. Is that enough? |
| 19:48:19 | seletz | i mean, i do register /dev/rtc and that all. |
| 19:48:54 | _rmk_ | yes - /dev/rtc is the expected interface. |
| 19:49:01 | seletz | ah, ok |
| 19:49:07 | _rmk_ | the user space 'clock' tool knows how to read/write the time via /dev/rtc |
| 19:49:51 | seletz | btw, does the i2c stuff get a redesign somewhere in 2.5? |
| 19:50:24 | _rmk_ | don't think so - its been changed in the past, the last update happened early 2.4 or late 2.3 iirc |
| 19:50:34 | seletz | hmmm |
| 19:50:55 | _rmk_ | if you're looking at the acorn rtc stuff, I did add some extra support in there recently. |
| 19:51:23 | seletz | IMHO its quite ugly now. An adapter has to know RTC stuff |
| 19:51:58 | _rmk_ | there were some plans (if enough people get together) to write a generic /dev/rtc driver |
| 19:51:59 | seletz | Adapters should only know about "sda" and "scl" IMHO |
| 19:52:19 | seletz | ok |
| 19:53:03 | _rmk_ | search a linux-kernel archive for message id: 20011028095819.I15768@cpe-24-221-152-185.az.sprintbbd.net |
| 19:53:11 | _rmk_ | the mail was sent on Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:58:19 -0700 |
| 19:53:34 | seletz | looking |
| 19:58:33 | BZFlag | _rmk_: where has your net code been placed? |
| 19:59:02 | BZFlag | erikm told me you had resolved the licensing and that it could go into blob. |
| 19:59:19 | BZFlag | we've got a board contract that could use it. |
| 19:59:43 | BZFlag | rather than adding etherboot stuff I'd like to take a look at what you have. |
| 20:00:03 | _rmk_ | BZ: I'm not sure where erikm put it, but erikm does have it. |
| 20:00:14 | seletz | :) |
| 20:00:39 | BZFlag | can you send it to me as well? erikm said he had sent it to me, but I can't find it in any of my archives. |
| 20:00:48 | seletz | BZFlag: ethernet tftp/bootp is on my todo as well |
| 20:01:06 | seletz | BZFlag: what chip are you going to use? |
| 20:01:21 | BZFlag | one's a arm7 the other is a sa1110 |
| 20:01:33 | BZFlag | oh, you mean ether. |
| 20:01:43 | seletz | BZFlag: yup, on the SA1110 |
| 20:01:56 | seletz | BZFlag: I got a SMC 91c96 here |
| 20:01:59 | BZFlag | the sa1110 is a cf ne2k, the arm7 is a .... hmm. don't recall at present. Duck is doing that one. |
| 20:02:29 | seletz | BZFlag: ah, the one shipped with the assabet? |
| 20:02:55 | seletz | BZFlag: then my PCMCIA stuff for blob might come in handy ... |
| 20:02:57 | BZFlag | nope. the sa1110 is the vercel idr board. similar to the neponset though. |
| 20:03:31 | BZFlag | seletz: yes. ;-) |
| 20:03:33 | _rmk_ | ... brb (editing an ircd motd file) |
| 20:04:17 | seletz | BZFlag: two things are that i want to teach blob: 1) ethernet updating 2) update on-board flash via an specially formatted CF card |
| 20:04:39 | seletz | BZFlag: plug'n play update, you know. For _dumb_ customers |
| 20:04:48 | BZFlag | I've got the old bootloader Lineo korea did for hp that includes etherboot. it's cf with ne2k and works but it ugly code imho. |
| 20:05:31 | seletz | BZFlag: send CF card, have customer plug it in, reset, blob detects a special cf card, re-flashes finternal flash, reset and off you go |
| 20:05:47 | BZFlag | seletz: 2 looks like a "romimage" or "rootfs" file on vfat for me. duck has this working on the arm7 version at lineo. |
| 20:07:01 | BZFlag | vercel will have the cf update. I hope to also finish the kernel-from-jffs2 and params-from-jffs2 for that board. |
| 20:07:03 | seletz | BZFlag: the ARMboot guys have network too. I looked at the code. Most "drivers" are copied from the kernel source and hacked to get it going. |
| 20:07:32 | seletz | hmmm, then we should join forces somhow |
| 20:07:33 | BZFlag | seletz: that's fine with me too. ;-) |
| 20:07:37 | seletz | s/som/some/ |
| 20:08:12 | seletz | ok, at first we should have PCMCIA working under BLOB |
| 20:08:49 | seletz | my code has basic PCMCIA stuff (SA1111 though), detects cards and parses the CIS |
| 20:10:01 | BZFlag | vercel has a sa1111 as well. |
| 20:10:07 | seletz | BZFlag: it never got committed to erik, because i did'nt had the time to do more. But now my customer wants those features in blob :) |
| 20:10:13 | BZFlag | one cf slot, 3.3v only. |
| 20:10:21 | seletz | cool, like the system3 |
| 20:10:37 | BZFlag | it's slot1, not 0. same on your end? |
| 20:10:46 | seletz | yes |
| 20:10:51 | BZFlag | sweet! ;-) |
| 20:11:06 | seletz | slot 0 is full PCMCIA, needed for our analogue measurement board :) |
| 20:11:17 | BZFlag | we don't have a 0. |
| 20:11:26 | seletz | doesn't matter |
| 20:11:52 | seletz | i stopped coding when i came to this weird IDE stuff |
| 20:12:58 | seletz | basically i wanted to verify wether or not PCMCIA/CF works on my board. Then i switched to kernel mode and stopped BLOBing |
| 20:13:26 | seletz | looking up patches |
| 20:16:36 | BZFlag | seletz: heh. same here. ;-) but the contract I'm on requires cf flashing. |
| 20:16:46 | BZFlag | so I have to get back to it sometime. |
| 20:17:04 | BZFlag | _rmk_: you alive? is the net code out there someplace? |
| 20:18:24 | seletz | BZFlag: there's a DOS ata driver example (freeware, no license, source) from sandisk |
| 20:18:39 | seletz | BZFlag: this driver uses PCMCIA as well |
| 20:19:05 | seletz | BZFlag: maybe we want to rip out the DOS stuff and merge it with blob? |
| 20:19:23 | seletz | BZFlag: does nice polling i/o |
| 20:21:24 | BZFlag | duck took the ide code posted to the list 6-8 months ago and got that working already. |
| 20:21:40 | BZFlag | his slot is just an ide slot though, not cf/pcmcia |
| 20:21:49 | BZFlag | and it needs some cleanup. |
| 20:21:52 | seletz | BZFlag: as soon as i got this RTC / I2C stuff working and verified some PCMCIA stuff on 2.5 i'll get back to this. Then at first i'll revive the PCMCIA stuff. |
| 20:22:06 | seletz | BZFlag: well, post it :) |
| 20:22:39 | BZFlag | I can get it to you if you like. keep in mind it's not intended to be ready to release. we have not gone through and cleaned things up vs copyright notices etc. |
| 20:23:09 | seletz | BZFlag: As soon as i can do PCMCIA, we have access to the IDE regs on a cf card, so if the IDE code works then ... |
| 20:23:25 | mmatten|home | seletz: still @ work ? |
| 20:23:28 | seletz | BZFlag: what license is it? |
| 20:23:30 | seletz | mmatten|home: yup |
| 20:23:35 | seletz | ahhhhhrgh |
| 20:23:37 | seletz | late |
| 20:23:46 | seletz | will get SIGGIRLFRIEND soon |
| 20:23:46 | mmatten|home | SIGGF eh ? :) |
| 20:23:50 | BZFlag | but erikm has a copy. you has sf access yes? There is a tarball of the ugly hp version up there that has etherboot in it. I'll put duck's version up there as well. |
| 20:24:23 | seletz | BZFlag: url please? Or is it on the blob page? |
| 20:24:31 | BZFlag | the ide code that was posted to the list was... hmm. either gpl or compatibile. might have be public domain. |
| 20:24:47 | BZFlag | blob group directory on SF. use ssh/scp |
| 20:25:07 | seletz | hmm, never done it |
| 20:25:14 | seletz | looking at sf docs page |
| 20:25:20 | BZFlag | please do NOT release it anywhere. Lineo Korea did nasty things like removing copyrights etc. |
| 20:25:47 | BZFlag | I am not happy with that code at all. I put it up there so erikm would have access to it. |
| 20:25:58 | BZFlag | but the project has been killed and it will never be released. |
| 20:26:31 | seletz | well, then i dont even download it. |
| 20:26:35 | BZFlag | just ssh <username>@shell.sourceforge.net (or an alias, I use timriker@bzflag.org ;-) |
| 20:26:47 | seletz | ahhh |
| 20:27:14 | BZFlag | then cd to the group home dir. I think thats /home/groups/b/bl/blob or some such. |
| 20:28:03 | BZFlag | seletz: the bits that are there are either blob (gpl) or etherboot (gpl) or lineo hackup (should be considered gpl) |
| 20:28:29 | BZFlag | but they broke automake and dropped everything in one directory, etc. a poor job, but it does work. |
| 20:28:36 | seletz | hmmm, only htdocs there |
| 20:29:03 | BZFlag | so it could get used and released, |
| 20:29:11 | BZFlag | .. ah it's in htdocs .. |
| 20:29:19 | seletz | bloader.tgz |
| 20:29:22 | BZFlag | yep. |
| 20:29:27 | seletz | ok |
| 20:30:15 | BZFlag | so the code could get cleaned up and used, but as I said they ripped out copyrights etc which is why I insisted that the code not be released. |
| 20:30:29 | BZFlag | they were supposed to get back and fix it, but the project died as well. |
| 20:30:53 | prpplague | BZFlag: which project is that? |
| 20:31:12 | BZFlag | hp calypso. a $199 sa1110 handheld. |
| 20:32:02 | BZFlag | moves the file out of htdocs |
| 20:32:58 | BZFlag | it's in the home directory now. only readable to blob group members. |
| 20:33:37 | seletz | ok, got it |
| 20:33:44 | seletz | looking |
| 20:35:20 | seletz | pcmcia.c is public domain |
| 20:37:16 | seletz | this code is yuck-bleah |
| 20:37:17 | BZFlag | adds a bloader.txt |
| 20:37:25 | BZFlag | as I said. =( |
| 20:37:44 | seletz | i know, "You Have Been Warned." |
| 20:40:05 | seletz | nah, at best the ethernet suff is usable. Needs lots of reworking. |
| 20:41:12 | seletz | BZFlag: i think i'll get the pcmcia stuff working. Then low-level ethernet stuff via pio. Neatly separated. Neatly encapsulated for different eth chips. |
| 20:41:36 | seletz | anyway, im tired now |
| 20:41:51 | seletz | see ya, guys |
| 20:48:04 | BZFlag | seletz_home: sweet. keep up posted. |
| 21:12:45 | mmatten|music | n8 |
| 22:12:23 | prpplague | BZFlag: got a sec for a question? |
| 22:14:44 | BZFlag | hit me |
| 22:18:28 | prpplague | BZFlag: thanks, i posted on the #tuxscreen |