irclog2html for blob on 2002.02.21

08:51:24seletzhi
09:29:15Sammyhello seletz
13:42:36seletzerikm: hi
13:50:48erikmhello
15:10:38prpplaguemorning friends
15:10:50prpplaguehope everyone is having a good day of coding....
15:21:48seletzprpplague: hi, yes i have, specially now as pcmcia works :)
15:22:04erikmplays with bk again
15:22:40erikmonce you get the trick it actually works nice
15:23:19seletzerikm: what disturbs me is that the source dirs only get populated when issuing "bk edit". What about make?
15:23:42prpplagueseletz: whooaaa, pcmcia working thats great
15:24:31prpplagueerikm: not you too! your slipping into the dark side ( bk that is!)
15:24:44prpplagueseletz: so when do i get a sample board?
15:25:11seletzprpplague: yes. Couple of silly errors introduced & removed by me _and_ 2.5.2 irq code did the trick :)
15:25:33erikmseletz: try bk co
15:25:40erikmseletz: or better: bk -r co
15:26:16erikmprpplague: bk is not the dark side
15:26:44prpplagueerikm: lol, i'm just kidding around
15:27:31seletzprpplague: well, thats not up to me anymore. Now i'm having a development contract with pruftechnik, but i think the'll push out OEM boards as soon as the handheld measurement device is out.
15:28:49seletzhas to RTFM the bk manual .... :)
15:29:07erikmseletz: jgarzik is preparing a nice manual
15:29:30erikmseletz: well, one that describes how to work with kernel repositories
15:30:04seletzerikm: you said that. We're thinking about moving from CVS to bk for all SW projects, and to move the old CVS projects to bk.
15:31:08prpplagueis bk that much easier to use when managing projects?
15:32:05seletzprpplague: i think for me the main benefits are beeing able to rename files and to take the work with you anywhere (with the ability to do ci), and to have changesets.
15:33:41seletzprpplague: having a "disconnected" sort of repository is one thing i really need. Now we do use scripts which rsync the work made at home. That's pretty ugly.
15:34:00erikmseletz: yes, the "multiple repositories" thing is pretty neat
15:34:54erikmright now I'm testing bk together with rmk: I cloned linus's 2.5 tree and made two local clones: arm-2.5 and net-drivers-2.5
15:35:23seletzah?
15:35:57erikmI pulled rmk's updates in the arm-2.5 repository, and the net-driver updates from jgarzik's net-driver-2.5 repository
15:36:20seletzWell, i want to generate the lnext patches using CVS/diff (old way:), the patches that follow i'd rather create with bk. Is that reasonable?
15:37:13erikmI'm developing the cs89x0 driver in my local net-driver-2.5 repository. I have a "hacking tree" that I cloned from linus tree, and from which I pull from both the local clones of  arm-2.5 and net-drivers-2.5
15:37:22prpplagueis in the stone ages... still using tarballs with dated names
15:38:08erikmseletz: yes, bk can generate diff -u patches
15:39:02seletzok, basically what one needs to do is: clone a vanilla kernel, pull russells patches into it, hack and use bk to create diffs?
15:39:54erikmyou probably want both a local clone of linus's tree and rmk's tree
15:40:34erikmand because clone has the "-l" option (create hard links), having an extra repository doesn't cost much disk space
15:41:24erikm(except that rmk's tree is not yet publically available, I'm pulling from his home machine over an adsl line)
15:42:11seletzerikm: ok, the usual question to follow :)
15:42:33seletzerikm: Do you know when it will be available?
15:42:39erikmseletz: no
15:42:42seletz:)
15:43:36erikmwe're just playing with it, to see if and how it works
15:43:47seletzok, np.
15:44:12seletzgetting smc9194 to work with 2.5.2-rmk6
16:02:48seletzArgh! -ing CONFIG_ISA
16:03:06erikmhuh?
16:04:05seletzwell, there's a #elif defined(CONFIG_ISA) in smc9194.c which tricked me a bit.
16:05:49seletzerikm: #ifdef defined(neponset) #elif defined(isa) #elif defined(system3) #endif does not work as expected.
16:06:03seletzerikm: have to move up system3 ...
16:06:06erikmyou mean #ifdef CONFIG_SA1100
16:06:26seletzlooking again
16:06:38erikmand if you really want to make it clean, you'd better have the #ifdef hell in a separate header file
16:07:25seletzerikm: no, it's really CONFIG_ISA
16:07:48seletzerikm: and this CONFIG_IAS is meant for ISA bus ....
16:09:08seletzerikm: should i move the arch dep init code out in separate functions and define them in the header?
16:09:19prpplagueseletz: ya i had lots of problems with the config_isa
16:09:41erikmseletz: that usually makes the stuff a lot cleaner
16:09:41seletzerikm: like: #define smc_arch_init() smc_system3_init()
16:10:08seletzerikm: and do #ifdefs in the header file for smc_neponset_init() smc_isabus_init() etc
16:10:20erikm*nod*
16:10:24seletzok
16:10:26seletzwill do
16:10:43seletzhopes rmk will accept the patch ;^)
16:10:45erikmjust an idea, but it makes the actual driver code a lot easier to read
16:10:55seletzagreed
16:10:56erikmwho is the author?
16:11:03seletzlooks
16:11:22seletzerik stahlman
16:11:56erikmhmm, not sure if he is still alive
16:12:07erikm(alive as in: still maintaining it)
16:12:13seletzlast entry is from 96
16:12:20seletzlooks
16:12:55seletzno stahlman in MAINTAINERS
16:14:09seletzwell, i guess i'll just make the change, send a patch to linux-arm-kernel and wait for reactions
16:30:36prpplagueerikm: btw, you got blob running on the ipaq yet?
16:34:23seletzerikm: hmm, where do the actual functions go? smc_your_arch_init()? headerfile or source?
16:41:25erikmseletz: ask jgarzik, he might know the maintainer
16:41:34erikmseletz: or first try to mail the maintainer
16:41:40erikmprpplague: no, sorry -ENOTIME
16:41:58seletzerikm: ok, thx
16:42:06prpplagueerikm: bummer
16:43:36erikmlooks at lilo's global message
16:43:48erikmhmm, I might want to give a talk about blob on OLS
16:45:46prpplagueerikm: guess its no loss, i'm not real impressed with the ipaq
18:02:47seletzerikm: Does this mean to you anything? "Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode UK4_26"
18:04:17erikmnot, not really
18:04:57seletzargh. all of a sudden my kernel doesn't even boot. GRRR
18:06:51seletzah, my socket_state() func oopses. hmm
18:07:12erikmgoes skating
18:07:13erikmbye
18:07:22seletzhave fun :)
19:16:47prpplaguehowdy there akira|afk
19:18:07akirahowdy :)
19:19:20akiradid seletz solve his kernel panic ? :)
19:35:58prpplagueakira: ya i think he got the pcmcia stuff working under a 2.5 kernel
19:42:34akiraoh good :) then i'll have a happy boss tomorrow :>

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