| 13:18:05 | seletz | hi |
| 13:18:30 | erikm | hello seletz |
| 13:19:33 | seletz | having a HW debugging session |
| 13:22:27 | erikm | again? |
| 13:22:30 | erikm | or still? |
| 13:29:46 | seletz | erikm: both :) |
| 13:30:49 | seletz | erikm: something really weird is going on with SA1111 IRQs in combination with ide.c and GPIO11-25 irqs. |
| 13:31:45 | seletz | erikm: I corrently try to rule out the pcmcia part of the ide driver, and trying to get the patch from rmk to work. sigh. |
| 14:05:39 | seletz | getting strong brownian motion producer |
| 14:38:57 | seletz | akira: hi |
| 14:39:04 | akira | hi |
| 15:16:13 | seletz | getting strong brownian motion producer |
| 15:17:44 | akira | :> |
| 15:33:50 | seletz | makes _some_ progress :) |
| 16:08:09 | prpplague | howdy seletz erikm |
| 16:08:26 | prpplague | hows life, women and coding going for you guys today? |
| 16:10:42 | seletz | prpplague: hi |
| 16:10:49 | erikm | hello prpplague |
| 16:11:17 | seletz | prpplague: everything's fine so far (except my HW and IRqs it seems) |
| 16:11:24 | seletz | :) |
| 16:17:36 | seletz | erikm: silly quuestion, perhaps, but: is printk() IRQ-save? I suppose yes ... |
| 16:17:38 | prpplague | seletz: still having problems with the disappering irq? |
| 16:17:44 | seletz | prpplague: yup |
| 16:18:03 | erikm | seletz: yes it is. it wasn't, but in new kernels it is |
| 16:18:16 | seletz | prpplague: perhaps you read my posts on the linux-arm-kernel list :) |
| 16:18:30 | erikm | seletz: you don't want to print somethin for an irq that goes 100 times per second, though... |
| 16:18:36 | seletz | :) |
| 16:18:52 | seletz | hmm, got a strange oops |
| 16:18:57 | seletz | looking |
| 16:19:30 | prpplague | has over 500 unread posts on the linux-arm-kernel |
| 16:19:49 | erikm | has 2853 unread posts in linux-kernel |
| 16:19:57 | seletz | argh! |
| 16:20:08 | erikm | kill-thread is great :) |
| 16:20:22 | erikm | and a threaded mail reader also helps (mutt rulez!) |
| 16:20:46 | seletz | erikm: btw, how many mails roughly are of interest in linux-kernel? |
| 16:21:25 | seletz | erikm: and, i suppose a wannabe kernel-develope (read: me) should not even think to subscribe? |
| 16:21:46 | erikm | why not? |
| 16:22:02 | seletz | because of 2853 mails per day? |
| 16:22:16 | erikm | no, that's about a week worth of mail |
| 16:22:22 | seletz | ah |
| 16:22:45 | seletz | still a lot ... |
| 16:23:06 | erikm | usually about 200 messages/day |
| 16:23:20 | erikm | but you *need* procmail and mutt to read it |
| 16:23:41 | seletz | sorry, but why? |
| 16:24:03 | erikm | procmail for filtering out the messages into a separate mailbox |
| 16:24:11 | erikm | mutt because it's a threaded mail reader |
| 16:24:15 | seletz | ok |
| 16:25:10 | seletz | doing "man mutt" |
| 16:25:42 | erikm | so for example, I see this: |
| 16:25:45 | erikm | 6327 N Feb 11 Laurence ( 22) Transaction TCP patch for Linux |
| 16:25:45 | erikm | 6328 N Feb 10 Matti Aarnio ( 38) > |
| 16:25:45 | erikm | 6329 N Feb 10 bert hubert ( 33) > |
| 16:25:45 | erikm | 6330 N Feb 11 Alan Cox ( 18) > |
| 16:26:16 | erikm | which nicely shows that matti and bert replied to the original message, and alan replied to ber |
| 16:26:17 | erikm | t |
| 16:26:38 | erikm | otherwise linux-kernel is just an enourmouse amount of separate messages |
| 16:26:48 | seletz | ok, does mutt fold threads away, too |
| 16:26:58 | erikm | you can do that as well, yes |
| 16:27:06 | erikm | if you know elm, you know mutt |
| 16:27:53 | erikm | you usually spend an afternoon customizing mutt, but after that you don't want to go back to your old mailer |
| 16:28:13 | seletz | thinks about converting to mutt when finally moving to hist new office :) |
| 16:28:27 | erikm | you want my .muttrc? |
| 16:28:41 | seletz | yup! |
| 16:28:54 | erikm | dcc ok? |
| 16:29:16 | seletz | i'd rather get it by mail, if you dont mind ... |
| 16:29:23 | seletz | (wrong machine) |
| 16:29:24 | erikm | 'k |
| 16:29:37 | seletz | thanks |
| 16:30:57 | seletz | well, i guess if i really want to take this linux buisness serious, then i'll have to kick some old habits ... (like using nice GUI mail readers) |
| 16:31:04 | erikm | heh |
| 16:37:12 | seletz | ah, found the cause |
| 16:37:15 | erikm | ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- |
| 16:37:15 | erikm | <stefan.eletzhofer@www.eletztrick.net> |
| 16:37:32 | seletz | uh? |
| 16:37:36 | seletz | erm |
| 16:37:44 | seletz | looking |
| 16:38:05 | erikm | ----- Transcript of session follows ----- |
| 16:38:05 | erikm | ... while talking to www.eletztrick.net.: |
| 16:38:05 | erikm | >>> RCPT To:<stefan.eletzhofer@www.eletztrick.net> |
| 16:38:05 | erikm | <<< 550 5.1.1 <stefan.eletzhofer@www.eletztrick.net>... User unknown |
| 16:38:05 | erikm | 550 <stefan.eletzhofer@www.eletztrick.net>... User unknown |
| 16:38:22 | erikm | time to balme your NT sysadmin :) |
| 16:38:22 | seletz | use stefan.eletzhofer@eletztrick.de |
| 16:38:27 | seletz | nah |
| 16:38:32 | erikm | s/balme/blame/ |
| 16:38:35 | seletz | no NT there |
| 16:38:41 | seletz | .net is a alias domain |
| 16:38:46 | seletz | .com too |
| 16:38:57 | seletz | i guess the messed up the MX dns entries |
| 16:38:57 | erikm | change it in the blob doc |
| 16:39:04 | seletz | yup |
| 16:40:12 | erikm | resends |
| 16:40:47 | seletz | erikm: sorry for the hassle :( |
| 16:53:49 | seletz | erikm: ok, CVS is updated |
| 18:55:19 | akira | cyaz |
| 19:51:03 | prpplague | howdy BZFlag, hows life at lineo? |
| 19:55:30 | BZFlag | fine, fine. |
| 19:57:25 | erikm | BZFlag: hope you didn't mind me flaming shane nay on linux-arm-kernel :) |
| 20:21:49 | BZFlag | oh, I missed it. |
| 20:23:39 | erikm | BZFlag: he basically acused lineo and monta vista for being bad open source players |
| 20:33:51 | BZFlag | hmm.. I don't know which side of that arguement to take up. it varies from project to project. |
| 20:39:53 | BZFlag | looks like a fair reply from him: http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2002-February/007431.html |
| 20:40:42 | BZFlag | I'm pleased your experience has been positive. I strive to do what I can to insure we play nice. But, alas, some things are out of my control. ;-) |
| 20:41:07 | erikm | except that he doesn't realise that those commercial companies are the $$$ behind open source |
| 20:41:52 | erikm | he doesn't realise that redhat/cygnus is one of the key contributors to gcc |
| 20:42:02 | erikm | and they can only do that *because* they sell gcc support for $$$ |
| 20:52:16 | BZFlag | nod |
| 20:52:35 | BZFlag | things would progress without the commercial companies, but more slowly. |
| 20:52:57 | erikm | I just got another message: |
| 20:53:09 | erikm | > Who from BlueCat is paid to work on community projects |
| 20:53:09 | erikm | > and works well together with the community? Who from vLinux?, who |
| 20:53:09 | erikm | > from MontaVista (I'm talking employees, not contractors), who from |
| 20:53:09 | erikm | > Lineo now that Erik Anderson was laid off? |
| 20:53:36 | erikm | he really doesn't know what he's talking about |
| 20:53:55 | erikm | nicolas pitre is payed by monta vista. deepak saxena also |
| 20:55:09 | erikm | BZFlag: if you have some obvious examples of other people at lineo, let me know :) |
| 20:58:04 | BZFlag | myself and pierre are probably the most active. there are others on specific ports etc. |
| 20:59:00 | BZFlag | np is the reason for his "employees, not contractors" blurb. ;-) |
| 20:59:12 | erikm | np is an employee |
| 21:28:50 | erikm | BZFlag: look at l-a-k :) |
| 21:29:53 | BZFlag | will do. headed to the office. on later. |
| 22:49:35 | BZFlag | starts some long overdue blob hacking |
| 22:50:03 | erikm | has been working on flash partitioning |
| 22:52:07 | BZFlag | any further thoughts on kernel non-depend? |
| 22:52:50 | erikm | not yet |
| 22:52:56 | BZFlag | k |
| 22:52:58 | erikm | is tired |
| 22:53:03 | erikm | and goes zzz |
| 22:53:27 | BZFlag | memsetup-sa1110.S:96: Error: Invalid constant ? |
| 22:53:37 | BZFlag | new map convention? |
| 22:54:01 | erikm | that's abraham's stuff |
| 22:54:15 | erikm | I asked him to back the stuff out |
| 22:54:39 | erikm | apparently he didn't, so go ahead |
| 22:55:14 | erikm | goes zzz |
| 22:55:15 | erikm | bye |