| 13:15:45 | | erikm was last seen on #blob 21 hours, 15 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying: BZFlag: you there? [Mon Dec 10 16:00:14 2001] |
| 13:15:45 | seletz | ibot: seen erikm? |
| 13:16:05 | seletz | hi folks |
| 14:28:35 | prpplague | evening erikm |
| 14:28:38 | erikm | hi * |
| 14:28:46 | seletz | hi erik! |
| 14:28:54 | erikm | has been fighting with scsi tape drives this morning |
| 14:29:02 | seletz | :) |
| 14:29:12 | prpplague | better than fighting 12 36gig scsi raid cabinet |
| 14:29:24 | seletz | Hope it was at least a DAT drive? |
| 14:29:35 | prpplague | boy esr has been on a terror about arm kernel... |
| 14:29:43 | erikm | seletz: no, an onstream adr50 |
| 14:30:01 | erikm | seletz: quite nice drive, though I do not really trust the mechanism |
| 14:30:06 | seletz | _ugh_ yuck |
| 14:31:39 | seletz | erikm: well, the last time i messed around with something other than DAT drives i at last fired it in a corner and got a dat instead. |
| 14:31:54 | erikm | seletz: I like DLT. extremely robust |
| 14:32:06 | seletz | erikm: ah, sorry. |
| 14:32:12 | erikm | seletz: though DAT is a good second |
| 14:32:21 | seletz | erikm: i thought it was some sort of old streamer. |
| 14:32:29 | prpplague | erikm: the DLT's work nice if the driver is configured properly and has good compression support |
| 14:32:48 | erikm | prpplague: DLT works pretty well with linux |
| 14:32:50 | prpplague | erikm: we had a lot of problems with both dat and dlt under sco |
| 14:33:03 | erikm | prpplague: but we use it mainly on IRIX |
| 14:33:19 | seletz | erikm: well, in 2002 i'll get some DLT library by myself. Are those SCSI changer commands supported by them? |
| 14:33:20 | prpplague | erikm: Substandard Computer Os |
| 14:33:22 | erikm | prpplague: DLT is actually a DEC product, so it's virtually bomb-proof |
| 14:33:25 | prpplague | erikm: SCO |
| 14:33:53 | prpplague | erikm: tell SCO that... |
| 14:34:23 | erikm | prpplague: I've never seen a good reason to use SCO |
| 14:34:32 | prpplague | erikm: if i can be screwed up, blown up, and just plain fsck'd, SCO can do it |
| 14:37:12 | seletz | well, |
| 14:37:28 | seletz | has someone here some exp with linux keyboard drivers? |
| 14:37:33 | seletz | :) |
| 14:38:01 | prpplague | negative |
| 14:38:22 | prpplague | anyone looked at the specs for the new ti-dsp-arm product? |
| 14:39:55 | seletz | nope. Whats that thing? |
| 14:41:13 | prpplague | check the headlines on www.linuxdevices.com |
| 14:41:40 | prpplague | ti is introducting a arm7 core with a dsp and eithernet on the same chip |
| 14:43:50 | seletz | checking out |
| 15:51:56 | seletz | back |
| 15:52:18 | prpplague | seletz: finished speaking with your parole officer or what? |
| 15:52:33 | erikm | LOL, rmk asked Benny Sjostrand to send Configure.help entries to "Eric" |
| 15:52:44 | erikm | so Benny send them to me :) |
| 15:52:56 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:53:11 | seletz | Ha! Well, at last it sounds the same ... :D |
| 15:53:43 | seletz | prpplague: Whats a parole office anyway? |
| 15:53:45 | prpplague | i've got to get the ones for omnimeter done when i get back |
| 15:54:00 | erikm | prpplague: just send them to rmk and CC ESR |
| 15:55:32 | seletz | erikm: well, do you want my hacked bad parker pcmcia code for blob for a review? |
| 15:56:01 | seletz | erikm: quite raw yet, anyway. |
| 15:56:12 | erikm | seletz: ok, just send them |
| 15:56:19 | seletz | will do. |
| 16:06:10 | prpplague | seletz: a person with the government you have to check in with once a month after you get out of jail |
| 16:10:02 | seletz | prpplague: oh. no. not really. erm. _cough_ No, i didnt have to report... |
| 16:10:09 | seletz | :D |
| 16:10:20 | prpplague | lol |
| 16:10:42 | seletz | erikm: did you get my mail? |
| 16:10:50 | erikm | looketh |
| 16:11:24 | seletz | erikm: playin ULTIMA recently? |
| 16:12:26 | seletz | erikm: i hope i got all files into the tar ... |
| 16:13:23 | erikm | sees large message in mail queue |
| 16:13:40 | seletz | :D |
| 16:13:40 | prpplague | erikm: full of pr0n? |
| 16:13:51 | seletz | lol |
| 16:13:52 | erikm | fBBGELiq012172* 17193 Tue Dec 11 17:14 <stefan.eletzhofer@eletztrick.de> |
| 16:13:52 | erikm | <erik@localhost> |
| 16:13:56 | erikm | not really :) |
| 16:14:45 | prpplague | is suffering from lack of sleep (i.e. cat /proc/humor/sense > /dev/null ) |
| 16:16:09 | seletz | happy: PT Digital Board initial patch got accepted & will be applied!! |
| 16:17:13 | prpplague | seletz: congrads |
| 16:18:06 | seletz | well, i'm quite happy. rmk accepts my patches at last .... |
| 16:18:29 | erikm | seletz: so what was the problem? |
| 16:18:56 | prpplague | seletz: maybe someday i'll be a real guru like you guys and get a patch accepted by rmk |
| 16:19:16 | seletz | erikm: the last patch problem? Well, russell's patch system web if had an bug, and opera has a bug also. |
| 16:20:11 | seletz | prpplague: no, im not a guru. I want to be one. Eventually if i hang around here and on linux-arm the next couple of years i'll become a guru ... :( |
| 16:20:21 | erikm | seletz: heh :) |
| 16:21:01 | seletz | well, i'm happy thet 1) my board runs linux 2) i get paid for kernel hacking :D |
| 16:21:33 | erikm | *nod* |
| 16:21:53 | prpplague | amen |
| 16:22:18 | prpplague | most days i say to myself "i can't believe someone is paying me to do this..." |
| 16:22:41 | seletz | erikm: well, we'll have to talk back later for this pcmcia stuff, i'm heading now to a different location, different story. Got to port 60.000 LOC to SUN/IRIX/HP/AIX. phew. |
| 16:23:21 | prpplague | seletz: doh |
| 16:23:37 | prpplague | seletz: hope you got your coffee and asprin ready |
| 16:24:40 | seletz | well, HP-UX is a pain in the ass, but the prog runs at last. Have to build some perl mods tough... (prog := C++ + C + QT + PERL/embedded + weird CAD stuff ) |
| 16:24:48 | seletz | :( |
| 16:25:39 | erikm | HP-SUX, ScumOS, Slowaris, Aches, etc. etc. etc. :( |
| 16:26:01 | seletz | *nod* *NOD* |
| 16:26:33 | seletz | ever tried to _compile_ anything on IBM AIX? |
| 16:27:07 | seletz | xlC xlCC clX or whatever. TONS of different binaries. Gnargh. |
| 16:27:47 | erikm | is glad that he hasn't met with AIX yet. |
| 16:27:56 | erikm | HP-SUX was already evil enough |
| 16:28:06 | erikm | it doesn't even come with a sane shell |
| 16:28:12 | seletz | (a kingdom for gcc. cant use because of "weird CAD stuff". argh. ouch. ouch. yuck-yuck) |
| 16:28:48 | seletz | erikm: tar xvfz bash.tar && cd bash-2.0.2 && configure && make |
| 16:29:10 | seletz | erikm: that was the fist thing i did. then came vim 5.7. |
| 16:29:20 | erikm | seletz: that's the first thing I do on "vendor supplied UNIX variants" download, compile and install ftp.gnu.org |
| 16:29:23 | seletz | hey, time runs .... |
| 16:30:01 | seletz | forgot time again ... |
| 16:30:13 | seletz | bye, I've to run now .... |
| 16:30:19 | seletz | bbl, afk |
| 16:35:49 | sammy_wms | is that worth to use $289 us dollar to buy a IPAQ ? |
| 16:36:37 | erikm | sammy_wms: depends on what you want to do with it |
| 16:37:26 | sammy_wms | bootldr or blob + linux + QPE + QT app ... |
| 16:38:16 | sammy_wms | if I buy it , my IPAQ will have brother ... |
| 16:38:31 | erikm | sammy_wms: it should work |
| 16:38:57 | erikm | sammy_wms: except that I didn't have tested the blob low-level stuff on ipaq |
| 16:39:59 | sammy_wms | erikm: do you know how much does the H3630 cose in other place ? |
| 16:40:07 | sammy_wms | er cost ... |
| 16:40:42 | erikm | sammy_wms: well, I paid about $600 for it a year ago. but that was when they were still in short suply |
| 16:41:23 | sammy_wms | |O| |
| 16:41:59 | sammy_wms | Ammm...it's really worth now to buy one ... |
| 16:43:25 | sammy_wms | erikm: if ipaq have bootldr inside , and then , burn the blob into flash without jtag, how to sure it's really work now ? |
| 16:43:51 | erikm | sammy_wms: it's not sure at all. |
| 16:44:13 | sammy_wms | O, O, .... |
| 16:44:21 | erikm | sammy_wms: I haven't had time to test it yet. more important project stuff went first |
| 16:45:00 | erikm | sammy_wms: but you can chain-load blob from bootldr |
| 16:45:44 | sammy_wms | " chain -load " ? |
| 16:48:08 | sammy_wms | maybe need spend some time read about some bootldr DOC ... |
| 16:53:49 | erikm | chain loading means that bootldr loads and boots blob |
| 16:53:53 | erikm | goes home |
| 16:54:03 | erikm | dinner with co-worker, all expenses paid :) |
| 16:54:17 | erikm | s/worker/workers/ , I mean |
| 16:54:52 | sammy_wms | bye erikm... |
| 17:04:31 | sammy_wms | hello prpplague :) |
| 17:07:12 | prpplague | knee how |
| 17:08:13 | sammy_wms | prpplague: worknig something ? |
| 17:56:31 | sammy_wms | z.z.z |