| 00:38:49 | Sammy | hello . |
| 03:19:53 | Sammy | BZFlag : if I tell you something , don't hit me .... |
| 03:20:18 | Sammy | I find the 6th ...hehehe |
| 03:20:52 | Sammy | but I and not sure are you sent it out ? |
| 03:21:07 | BZFlag | hehe. I still have not seen the money, so if you want to send the difference along... |
| 03:21:37 | BZFlag | I have not checked tonight, but I'm filling orders now. I will check in a few minutes. |
| 03:23:05 | Sammy | how much to give me to ask the 6th one ? |
| 03:23:25 | Sammy | er how much time ? |
| 03:26:04 | BZFlag | I show a $585 deposit with my bank charging me 10, so I actually got $575 |
| 03:26:43 | BZFlag | how much did you send? |
| 03:26:52 | Sammy | $601 |
| 03:27:19 | BZFlag | so apparently your bank charged $16 and mine $10 |
| 03:28:30 | Sammy | how can it be ? |
| 03:29:23 | Sammy | not that your bank only charged you $16 ? |
| 03:29:50 | BZFlag | no, my bank shows a wire of 585 minus a 10 dollar charge. |
| 03:31:05 | Sammy | ? what's come from that's 10 dollars ? |
| 03:31:36 | Sammy | you say that your bank only charged you $20 before ... |
| 03:31:52 | Sammy | but now why is that become $26 dollars ? |
| 03:32:06 | BZFlag | apparently my bank always charges $10 but then the other bank charges more. |
| 03:32:22 | BZFlag | before it looks like mine was $10 and the other bank was also $10 |
| 03:32:33 | BZFlag | in this case mine is $10 but yours is $16 |
| 03:32:54 | BZFlag | or perhaps there is some international broker in between that takes a fee? |
| 03:33:12 | BZFlag | I don't know. I DO know that I have $575 in my account. |
| 03:33:21 | Sammy | SHXX how can they do that .... |
| 03:33:31 | | 251.9 |
| 03:33:31 | BZFlag | ibot 6 * 99 + 149.60 + 83.30 - 575 |
| 03:34:07 | BZFlag | so you owe me 251.90 and I can presume that the bank charges will be the same 10 + 16 so |
| 03:34:17 | | 277.9 |
| 03:34:17 | BZFlag | ibot 251.90 + 10 + 16 |
| 03:34:30 | BZFlag | you need to make a payment for $277.90 |
| 03:35:55 | Sammy | that's guys tell me your bank only charged you $16 ... |
| 03:36:06 | Sammy | he deceive about me ... |
| 03:36:39 | Sammy | he don't say that I also need to charged for your bank about $10 |
| 03:37:28 | Sammy | that's made me think that I send more $4 to you ...... |
| 03:37:41 | BZFlag | hmm... I think there is some other agent between my bank and your bank that is charging the $16 |
| 03:38:52 | Sammy | SXXt....how can they do that ....XXit |
| 03:39:14 | BZFlag | oh wait... |
| 03:39:39 | BZFlag | what shipping did you want? economy? I included shipping for airmail in that figure... |
| 03:40:24 | | 144.1 |
| 03:40:24 | BZFlag | ibot 6 * 99 + 38.50 + 60.60 - 575 + 10 + 16 |
| 03:41:26 | BZFlag | that's 6 phones + 60.60 to ship 4 + 38.50 to ship 2 - $575 that I have now + 10 by bank charge + 16 someone else charges. |
| 03:42:03 | BZFlag | so you need to send $144.10 |
| 03:42:11 | | 118.1 |
| 03:42:11 | BZFlag | ibot 6 * 99 + 38.50 + 60.60 - 575 |
| 03:42:31 | BZFlag | of which I will actually get 118.10 which is the remainder that is owed. |
| 03:43:26 | BZFlag | sorry for miscalculating by using airmail lat time. $144.10 wire transfer ok? |
| 03:44:44 | BZFlag | Sammy? |
| 03:44:56 | Sammy | is asking the 6th guys |
| 03:45:12 | BZFlag | oh, ok. tell me what they say. |
| 03:45:39 | Sammy | I am asking does he want to pay 144 to buy one .. |
| 03:46:20 | BZFlag | 99 * 5 + 60.6 + 25.4 |
| 03:46:25 | | 581 |
| 03:46:25 | BZFlag | ibot 99 * 5 + 60.6 + 25.4 |
| 03:46:47 | | 6 |
| 03:46:47 | BZFlag | ibot: 581 - 575 |
| 03:47:07 | BZFlag | I'm out $6 at present. =( |
| 03:48:28 | Sammy | is try to convince the guys ... |
| 03:48:45 | BZFlag | heh, good luck! you have my support. ;-) |
| 03:50:57 | Sammy | so the 6th need to sent you 144 + 6 , right ? |
| 03:51:19 | Sammy | if don't let you out $6 ... |
| 03:53:15 | BZFlag | no the 144.10 include the $6 I'm out and the 10 and 16 fees. so send 144.10 |
| 03:53:42 | BZFlag | I will actually get 118.10 which is 112.10 for the new phone and the $6 That I'm out. |
| 03:54:13 | | 124.183333333333 |
| 03:54:13 | BZFlag | ibot ( 601 + 144.10 ) / 6 |
| 03:54:49 | BZFlag | and your cost including shipping and fees works out to $125 per phone. |
| 03:56:49 | BZFlag | clear? you need to send 144.10 to complete the order for 6 phones. |
| 03:58:04 | Sammy | ok I know , It's clean , give me 5min to calc to that's guy.... |
| 03:58:13 | Sammy | er clear |
| 03:58:18 | BZFlag | ok |
| 04:05:57 | Sammy | BZFlag : can you make some in invoice ? |
| 04:06:13 | Sammy | because that guys work for school ... |
| 04:06:40 | BZFlag | I was planning one invoice for 6 phones, but I'll do as many as you like. |
| 04:07:16 | Sammy | and he say you know can use public expense... |
| 04:07:35 | Sammy | but need a invoice to do that ... |
| 04:08:14 | Sammy | and please only need to planning for his 6th ... |
| 04:09:07 | Sammy | mean's the money in invoice is $144.1 maybe $145 is fine ... |
| 04:09:12 | Sammy | can you do that ? |
| 04:09:52 | BZFlag | so an invoice for 5 phones with the 575 payment on it and ... |
| 04:10:09 | BZFlag | another invoice for 1 phone with $144.10 on it? sure. |
| 04:10:51 | Sammy | yes , |
| 04:11:10 | BZFlag | it will say $99 phone cost + $45.10 shipping and handling. ok? |
| 04:11:39 | BZFlag | I suppose I should list "shipping/handling/bank fees" ? |
| 04:13:11 | BZFlag | me goes to prepare some phones. back in a bit. |
| 04:14:07 | BZFlag | oh, email me the name/address info for the invoice. they will all ship to your address, but I can make out the invoice to the other guy if you like. |
| 04:14:51 | Sammy | ok , let me tell him ... |
| 05:23:57 | Sammy | BZFlag : after talking about him , he say : if I say YES , the money sill can get into Tim's account , and tomorrow and sunday the bank here doesn't work ... |
| 05:26:34 | Sammy | so , " I " (he) want to think about it , in this two day's , and will tell you (me) "YES" or "NO" the deadline in monday ... |
| 05:27:58 | Sammy | then if he say YES , maybe I'll get the money and Mon maybe Tue, and sent it at that time ... |
| 05:29:02 | BZFlag | ok, less phones to prepare tonight. email me when you decide. |
| 05:30:15 | Sammy | then you will the same get the $144.1 maybe Wed or Thu ... |
| 05:31:08 | Sammy | then you can sent that phone to me ...YA ...waiting ... |
| 05:32:30 | Sammy | and about the invoice how to do , I'll with in the email .... |
| 05:34:10 | Sammy | BTW , if that guy say "No" , How to give you $6 ...? |
| 05:37:09 | BZFlag | if the guy says no, don't worry about the $6 |
| 05:37:52 | BZFlag | it would cost you $26 just to send the $6. not much sense in that. |
| 05:44:02 | Sammy | This is what I worry about .....so |
| 05:45:07 | Sammy | I am to be moved to tears of gratitude to thanx about you :::-)) |
| 05:45:52 | BZFlag | well, I'm off to bed. I'll watch for that email from you. night. |
| 07:59:15 | erikm | morning, * |
| 08:06:53 | Sammy | everin' erikm |
| 08:07:38 | Sammy | erikm : oh...yesterday I tald you that board I use have some PCI port ... |
| 08:07:53 | Sammy | after I really ask today , that |
| 08:08:09 | Sammy | just alike PCI bus , but not ... |
| 08:08:18 | Sammy | that's AGP bus ... |
| 08:10:01 | Sammy | use to control other static bank ... |
| 08:10:52 | Sammy | but you have to lay that board with alike AGP board ... |
| 08:12:41 | Sammy | but just only for develop use ... |
| 08:19:06 | erikm | *boggle* AGP? |
| 08:19:52 | erikm | I mean, PCI is already not the most brilliant idea, but AGP is realy bad |
| 08:21:36 | Sammy | omm... but it's not AGP port ...just alike ... |
| 08:21:48 | Sammy | how can I say that ...? |
| 08:22:05 | Sammy | if you want to add some flash ram ... |
| 08:22:34 | Sammy | but the static bank 0 is already use ... |
| 08:24:33 | Sammy | so if you want to add it from 32MB to 64MB even 128 MB ,you must lay a board , and then connect port use this alike "AGP" port too connect on the develop board ... |
| 08:25:46 | Sammy | that's that guy borrow the board for me say ... |
| 08:26:52 | Sammy | forgive my poor english , can you know what I mean ? |
| 09:23:26 | Sammy | erikm : If I want download the blob into sa-1110 board , I should need to compiler one jflash for this platform ? should I ? |
| 09:47:38 | erikm | sorry sammy, there's a bit of a panic situation over here. the mail server just died and I'm bringing up a replacement server |
| 09:52:06 | Sammy | ok , talk to you later .. |
| 17:36:04 | sammy_wms | ... |
| 18:00:14 | prpplague | whoo, new budget just arrived... |
| 18:00:30 | prpplague | lots $$ for sa development |
| 18:03:20 | erikm | prpplague: cool |
| 18:05:27 | sammy_wms | erikm: have any idea with my jtag problem ..? |
| 18:05:47 | Russ|werk | what problem is that? |
| 18:05:49 | erikm | sammy_wms: what jtag problem? |
| 18:06:02 | sammy_wms | jflash |
| 18:06:05 | erikm | has been in BOFH mode all day |
| 18:06:18 | Russ|werk | jflash usually isn't a problem |
| 18:06:44 | sammy_wms | with download the blob into sa-1110 board... |
| 18:07:03 | Russ|werk | and? |
| 18:07:10 | sammy_wms | can I use Jflash-linux ? |
| 18:07:15 | erikm | sammy_wms: you usually need to rewrite jflash to work with newer boards |
| 18:07:40 | sammy_wms | get the sorce and make for sa-1110 ? |
| 18:07:59 | erikm | sammy_wms: get the source, change for your platform, make |
| 18:08:22 | sammy_wms | ok, |
| 18:11:14 | sammy_wms | about the kernel with the platform ? what thing's should be care about when make kernel ? |
| 18:11:30 | sammy_wms | or I can use make assabet_config ? |
| 18:11:36 | erikm | no |
| 18:11:49 | erikm | if it is a new platform you need an architecture number first |
| 18:12:20 | sammy_wms | but you know , that board just alike the assabet ... |
| 18:12:50 | erikm | all boards are just like assabet |
| 18:13:10 | erikm | and still all boards need an architecture number |
| 18:13:39 | sammy_wms | new ? or from arm linux ? |
| 18:13:47 | Russ|werk | new |
| 18:13:57 | sammy_wms | ok. |
| 18:14:19 | erikm | tuxscreen looks just like LART. except the flash, the PCMCIA hardware, the network card, etc. etc. |
| 18:14:56 | sammy_wms | I'll get that ....................................................soon |
| 18:16:00 | sammy_wms | so I don't need to choose many thing's in menuconfig , and can let the kernel work ? |
| 18:16:47 | Russ|werk | ummm.... |
| 18:16:53 | Russ|werk | what? |
| 18:17:26 | Russ|werk | I think you might be too many steps ahead of yourself |
| 18:17:48 | Russ|werk | first arch number, then the blob porting (memory timings, flash timings, etc) |
| 18:17:58 | Russ|werk | then, put the arch in the kernel |
| 18:17:59 | prpplague | does motorola make an arm core? |
| 18:18:03 | Russ|werk | then, configure |
| 18:18:19 | erikm | prpplague: afaik yes. there was something about that on the register a month ago |
| 18:19:17 | sammy_wms | Russ|werk : this is the board that I am porting right now http://www.masteria.com.tw/frame02.htm |
| 18:20:16 | Russ|werk | host www.masteria.com.tw |
| 18:20:18 | Russ|werk | er |
| 18:21:28 | sammy_wms | because I think it's the board alike the assabet and also can use the kernel ... |
| 18:21:36 | sammy_wms | Russ : ? |
| 18:21:37 | prpplague | sammy_wms: looks nice |
| 18:21:40 | Russ|werk | Nameserver not responding |
| 18:21:40 | Russ|werk | www.masteria.com.tw A record not found, try again |
| 18:21:47 | Russ|werk | sammy_wms: ... |
| 18:21:57 | Russ|werk | sammy_wms: step one: get an arch number |
| 18:22:06 | erikm | Russ|werk: 203.70.173.196 |
| 18:22:08 | prpplague | sammy_wms: how much did that set you back? |
| 18:23:06 | sammy_wms | no , some of friend borrow me that .. |
| 18:23:23 | prpplague | ahh |
| 18:24:00 | sammy_wms | so that's why I ask erikm how much does the assabet cost ? |
| 18:24:39 | Russ|werk | sammy_wms: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/ |
| 18:24:40 | BZFlag | http://www.masteria.com.tw/frame02.htm == poorly formatted web site/page |
| 18:24:56 | Russ|werk | BZFlag: best viewed at 320x240 |
| 18:25:10 | BZFlag | Russ|werk: or not at all. |
| 18:25:32 | erikm | sammy_wms: I really don't know. I got one for free from intel |
| 18:25:51 | erikm | sammy_wms: (only recently) |
| 18:25:54 | sammy_wms | I know , and doesn't matter..^_^ |
| 18:27:55 | sammy_wms | try http://www.masteria.com.tw and try hardware |
| 18:29:51 | erikm | goes home |
| 18:30:00 | sammy_wms | omm...if I can porting blob on it , can I add the arch number to arm linux ? |
| 18:30:39 | BZFlag | sammy_wms: yes. normally you request the arch number first though. |
| 18:33:02 | sammy_wms | before porting on it or after ? |
| 18:34:26 | sammy_wms | how is the step about that ? |
| 18:36:18 | sammy_wms | the first time porting on another board ,just a newbies ,how many thing's I need to know ? |
| 18:38:21 | sammy_wms | Russ|werk : I had already sent the thing's that I say to give you before . |
| 18:41:16 | sammy_wms | just wait for a few days maybe week to get it : ) |
| 18:49:53 | prpplague | sammy_wms: i'm doing a port for the first time, and its not hard, the hard part is knowing what questions to ask, and where to get the info your looking for |
| 18:59:33 | BZFlag | sammy_wms: 1 get arch number, 2 add to you local kernel tree, 3 build blob, 4 test blob, 5 repeat 3 and 4 till it works, 6 build kernel, 7 flash kernel, 8 repeat 6 and 7 till it works, 9 submit diffs to blob and kernel maintainers. |
| 19:00:54 | prpplague | BZFlag: you make it sound like a chick trying to die her hair... |
| 19:01:28 | BZFlag | lather, rinse, repeat. |
| 19:08:24 | sammy_wms | ok , copy into my database after take a shower... |
| 19:10:05 | sammy_wms | start build this follow the tim say tomorrow ...thanx for all ...night ... |
| 19:10:50 | sammy_wms | is zZz |