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irclog2html for blob on 2001.07.25 00:07:45 sammy Good Morning all .........!! 00:08:23 BZFlag morning sammy. TuxScreen blob is booting thanx to Russ. 00:08:40 BZFlag nite... ;-) 03:01:24 sammy welcome back ...!! 03:01:38 sammy are U sleeping or not ? 03:02:48 BZFlag I should bem but I'm not. 03:02:58 BZFlag er I should be, but I'm not. 03:03:37 Russ working on diff, touchscreen, and frontlight 03:03:42 Russ er diffs 03:04:26 sammy or something like insomnolence ? 03:04:32 Russ BZFlag: how you doing on sa1100fb.cL 03:04:36 Russ er, .c 03:07:56 sammy if I porting blob and kernel on LART and then want show something like "Hello World" on screen ,can I use QT GUI from iPAQ on it ? 03:08:15 Russ what screen? 03:08:43 sammy like LCD or termil screen on PC 03:08:50 Russ which one 03:09:14 sammy LCD ... 03:09:28 Russ why wouldn't you be able to? 03:10:28 sammy but 03:11:21 BZFlag Russ: not working on it yet. 03:11:31 BZFlag rebuilding with jffs2 support. 03:12:13 BZFlag Russ: what happened to the blob jffs2 patches? Should we look at those next? 03:12:53 Russ soon, I use them at work, along with the cramfs ones 03:13:23 BZFlag My son burned his hands on sparklers tonight, so I'm not expecting much sleep or work will get done tonight. 03:13:59 BZFlag patches: nice. I should get back to work on the tftp patches too. 03:16:08 Russ ouch 03:17:26 BZFlag yeah. he was doing so well with just holding the tip, but then after like 20 sparklers he had one go out and grabbed the top to bring it back. 03:17:51 BZFlag It hurt just watching him, we grabbed fast and shouted, but it was too late. 03:18:17 sammy and how about your son ? is he alright ? 03:18:51 BZFlag sammy: he will be, but he'll be sore tomorrow and we probably won't get much sleep tonight. 03:19:17 BZFlag I did manage to rock him to sleep a little while ago, so he is sleeping now. 03:19:54 BZFlag Russ: what what the name of that jffs2 image you had? 03:20:09 BZFlag and is there a tarball so we can fix the terminal speed? 03:22:24 sammy God prays your cute son !! 03:22:49 Russ BZFlag: the nico image? 03:24:24 BZFlag yeah. 03:24:57 Russ sample_img-01.jffs2 03:25:11 Russ getting ready to make some images of my own 03:26:47 BZFlag sammy: thanx. 03:26:51 BZFlag cool. 03:28:46 Russ building uClibc now 03:35:01 BZFlag ponders changing all foo (foo@bar) entries in AUTHOR to foo <foo@bar> as they should be. ;-) 03:35:47 Russ bah 03:37:38 BZFlag heh, did it. there's a useless patch for ya. ;-) 03:37:51 BZFlag bah on me or uClibc? 03:38:03 Russ on the changing things 03:39:15 BZFlag I'm bored while waiting for my fs to upload 03:39:56 Russ you done with sa1100fb yet? getting impatient 03:40:52 BZFlag heh. did you check out the ts blob version to get the splash code? 03:41:11 Russ no 03:41:36 Russ UCB1200 generic module installed 03:41:36 Russ ucb1200 touch screen driver initialized 03:41:36 Russ ucb1200 adc driver initialized 03:41:36 Russ UCB1200 audio driver version 2.2 initialized 03:41:54 Russ Frontlight Driver Initialized... 03:42:06 BZFlag and then? 03:42:29 Russ the jffs2 scan get stuck... 03:42:34 Russ NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.95 (c) 1998-1999 Rebel.com 03:42:35 Russ ... 03:43:01 Russ the Frontlight driver should allow the setting of brightness, contrast, and power management 03:53:25 BZFlag blob needs erase... 03:53:31 Russ ? 03:53:44 Russ builds a busybox 03:53:57 BZFlag when you flash the jffs2 image it should erase the rest of the partition. 03:54:10 BZFlag else the jffs2 scan will have trouble. 03:54:16 BZFlag does it do that now? 03:54:58 Russ I think jffs2 might do that on its own 03:55:13 Russ ...unless there was a jffs2 partition there before.... 03:56:02 BZFlag if it finds any non-jffs2 blocks it prints warnings etc. 03:56:12 Russ thats ok 03:56:17 BZFlag if it finds a completely empty block it uses it. 03:56:38 BZFlag else it ignores the block IIRC. 03:57:15 BZFlag there was a bug posted where jffs2 would erase non-jffs2 filesystems, so the erase unknown block code was removed. 03:57:26 Russ it was? 03:57:29 Russ thats not right 03:57:42 BZFlag it should erase other filesystems? 03:57:44 Russ oh, wait, I see what you are saying 03:57:56 Russ I think it sees if it can find something jffs2 first 03:58:59 BZFlag I think it will try to erase any blocks after the valid image till the end of the partition, but if it finds one random suspected good block, that will mess up. 03:59:19 BZFlag hence the need for the bootloader to erase the remaining blocks. 04:00:28 BZFlag I just uploaded a 3M file of 0xff, that did it, but took a while as you can imagine. 04:02:27 Russ the nico image is nearly 3M 04:04:02 Russ building tinylogin.... 04:11:20 BZFlag yeah, I just remounted / rw and it reports 0 free 04:15:24 Russ I noticed 04:18:24 BZFlag though it did find like 20 blocks that it marked dirty!? 04:18:54 Russ then its probably an image thats aleady been used 04:19:06 Russ er, why is it dirty 04:19:43 BZFlag dont know. 04:19:56 BZFlag I wrote all 0xff first remember. 04:25:20 BZFlag empty blocks should get marked dirty till GC erases them later. 04:41:16 BZFlag I mailed the jffs list, and forgot to mention the kernel version... ;-/ 04:41:20 BZFlag night! 06:48:19 sammy {{{{{{{ sammy }}}}}}} 08:12:00 erikm damn 08:12:26 sammy what's up !? 08:12:34 erikm cvs update on the wrong branch 08:18:30 sammy erikm: where U define the Ser1UTDR1 and UTCR0_1StpBit 08:21:03 sammy and as U say that CVS add the command and support on blob 08:21:53 sammy means can get new blob from CVS again the same way ....? 09:37:22 sammy go .... 17:43:27 erikm relocation went ok 17:43:35 erikm now compiling a kernel 17:44:40 Russ|werk and supposively paramaters will pass? 17:45:58 erikm yes 17:46:00 erikm I hope so 17:48:31 erikm let's try it immediately with the hard disk as root 17:48:36 erikm no risk no fun, right? 17:53:02 erikm ok, half of it works 17:53:12 erikm ide_setup: idebus=33 17:53:20 erikm so the commandline node works 17:53:34 erikm apparently the memory nodes don't 17:54:07 erikm and the root node also works 17:57:42 erikm puts some debug printks into the kernel 18:02:23 Russ|werk you didn't before? 18:03:11 erikm nope 18:09:11 erikm woohoo! 18:09:14 erikm blob> boot console=ttySA0,9600 idebus=33 root=/dev/hda1 single 18:09:23 erikm Kernel command line: console=ttySA0,9600 idebus=33 root=/dev/hda1 single 18:09:29 erikm Memory: 8MB 8MB 8MB 8MB 64MB = 96MB total 18:09:46 erikm Give root password for maintenance 18:09:46 erikm (or type Control-D for normal startup): 18:20:37 Russ|werk very nice 18:20:49 Russ|werk can you email me the patch to lart.c? 18:22:03 erikm Russ|werk: not yet, it needs some other kernel work as well 18:22:22 Russ|werk like what? 18:22:52 erikm the node ID is not correctly set when using ATAG_MEM nodes 18:23:22 Russ|werk I'm confused 18:23:50 Russ|werk if you use ATAG_MEM nodes, do you have to change you <sa1100_arch>.c file around? 18:24:29 erikm yes, first of all you have to tell where your bootloader puts the arguments 18:25:07 erikm Russ|werk: and because blob is the first bootloader on SA1100 that properly uses the ATAG_* stuff, we're running into a bug right now 18:32:23 erikm re BZFlag 18:32:40 erikm BZFlag: so marc also ordered a tuxscreen 18:35:37 erikm BZFlag: (marc == marc joosen) 18:37:11 Russ|werk so all the arches that want to use ATAG_MEM need to modify their arch file with an ifdef atag bootloader? 18:37:33 rmk no, we're solving it... 18:37:40 erikm no, they can also use the older, less flexible format 18:38:28 erikm but the new format is pretty neat. the old one couldn't describe more than one memory zone, the new one has no problems with that 18:38:49 rmk and its far more flexible and extendable 18:39:01 erikm sure 18:39:19 erikm rmk: I suppose you're going to ditch the old one in 2.5? 18:39:40 rmk nope - I made a promise to keep it around for the next 5 years 18:40:06 rmk there's too many boot loaders out there to modify ;( 18:40:16 erikm put such a comment in the source 18:42:24 Russ|werk btw, what exactly is an assabet frontlight 18:42:25 rmk patch? ;) 18:43:03 erikm rmk: will do 18:43:09 rmk thanks 19:33:01 BZFlag erikm: I got marc's order. will ship tomorrow. 19:33:20 erikm BZFlag: he will be enlightened ;) 19:33:43 Russ|werk enlightened? 19:33:45 erikm BZFlag: (and I will have something to hack on when I'm in the US) 20:59:25 erikm bye Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! 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`00:07:45`	`sammy`	`Good Morning all .........!!`
`00:08:23`	`BZFlag`	`morning sammy. TuxScreen blob is booting thanx to Russ.`
`00:08:40`	`BZFlag`	`nite... ;-)`
`03:01:24`	`sammy`	`welcome back ...!!`
`03:01:38`	`sammy`	`are U sleeping or not ?`
`03:02:48`	`BZFlag`	`I should bem but I'm not.`
`03:02:58`	`BZFlag`	`er I should be, but I'm not.`
`03:03:37`	`Russ`	`working on diff, touchscreen, and frontlight`
`03:03:42`	`Russ`	`er diffs`
`03:04:26`	`sammy`	`or something like insomnolence ?`
`03:04:32`	`Russ`	`BZFlag: how you doing on sa1100fb.cL`
`03:04:36`	`Russ`	`er, .c`
`03:07:56`	`sammy`	`if I porting blob and kernel on LART and then want show something like "Hello World" on screen ,can I use QT GUI from iPAQ on it ?`
`03:08:15`	`Russ`	`what screen?`
`03:08:43`	`sammy`	`like LCD or termil screen on PC`
`03:08:50`	`Russ`	`which one`
`03:09:14`	`sammy`	`LCD ...`
`03:09:28`	`Russ`	`why wouldn't you be able to?`
`03:10:28`	`sammy`	`but`
`03:11:21`	`BZFlag`	`Russ: not working on it yet.`
`03:11:31`	`BZFlag`	`rebuilding with jffs2 support.`
`03:12:13`	`BZFlag`	`Russ: what happened to the blob jffs2 patches? Should we look at those next?`
`03:12:53`	`Russ`	`soon, I use them at work, along with the cramfs ones`
`03:13:23`	`BZFlag`	`My son burned his hands on sparklers tonight, so I'm not expecting much sleep or work will get done tonight.`
`03:13:59`	`BZFlag`	`patches: nice. I should get back to work on the tftp patches too.`
`03:16:08`	`Russ`	`ouch`
`03:17:26`	`BZFlag`	`yeah. he was doing so well with just holding the tip, but then after like 20 sparklers he had one go out and grabbed the top to bring it back.`
`03:17:51`	`BZFlag`	`It hurt just watching him, we grabbed fast and shouted, but it was too late.`
`03:18:17`	`sammy`	`and how about your son ? is he alright ?`
`03:18:51`	`BZFlag`	`sammy: he will be, but he'll be sore tomorrow and we probably won't get much sleep tonight.`
`03:19:17`	`BZFlag`	`I did manage to rock him to sleep a little while ago, so he is sleeping now.`
`03:19:54`	`BZFlag`	`Russ: what what the name of that jffs2 image you had?`
`03:20:09`	`BZFlag`	`and is there a tarball so we can fix the terminal speed?`
`03:22:24`	`sammy`	`God prays your cute son !!`
`03:22:49`	`Russ`	`BZFlag: the nico image?`
`03:24:24`	`BZFlag`	`yeah.`
`03:24:57`	`Russ`	`sample_img-01.jffs2`
`03:25:11`	`Russ`	`getting ready to make some images of my own`
`03:26:47`	`BZFlag`	`sammy: thanx.`
`03:26:51`	`BZFlag`	`cool.`
`03:28:46`	`Russ`	`building uClibc now`
`03:35:01`	`BZFlag`	`ponders changing all foo (foo@bar) entries in AUTHOR to foo <foo@bar> as they should be. ;-)`
`03:35:47`	`Russ`	`bah`
`03:37:38`	`BZFlag`	`heh, did it. there's a useless patch for ya. ;-)`
`03:37:51`	`BZFlag`	`bah on me or uClibc?`
`03:38:03`	`Russ`	`on the changing things`
`03:39:15`	`BZFlag`	`I'm bored while waiting for my fs to upload`
`03:39:56`	`Russ`	`you done with sa1100fb yet? getting impatient`
`03:40:52`	`BZFlag`	`heh. did you check out the ts blob version to get the splash code?`
`03:41:11`	`Russ`	`no`
`03:41:36`	`Russ`	`UCB1200 generic module installed`
`03:41:36`	`Russ`	`ucb1200 touch screen driver initialized`
`03:41:36`	`Russ`	`ucb1200 adc driver initialized`
`03:41:36`	`Russ`	`UCB1200 audio driver version 2.2 initialized`
`03:41:54`	`Russ`	`Frontlight Driver Initialized...`
`03:42:06`	`BZFlag`	`and then?`
`03:42:29`	`Russ`	`the jffs2 scan get stuck...`
`03:42:34`	`Russ`	`NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.95 (c) 1998-1999 Rebel.com`
`03:42:35`	`Russ`	`...`
`03:43:01`	`Russ`	`the Frontlight driver should allow the setting of brightness, contrast, and power management`
`03:53:25`	`BZFlag`	`blob needs erase...`
`03:53:31`	`Russ`	`?`
`03:53:44`	`Russ`	`builds a busybox`
`03:53:57`	`BZFlag`	`when you flash the jffs2 image it should erase the rest of the partition.`
`03:54:10`	`BZFlag`	`else the jffs2 scan will have trouble.`
`03:54:16`	`BZFlag`	`does it do that now?`
`03:54:58`	`Russ`	`I think jffs2 might do that on its own`
`03:55:13`	`Russ`	`...unless there was a jffs2 partition there before....`
`03:56:02`	`BZFlag`	`if it finds any non-jffs2 blocks it prints warnings etc.`
`03:56:12`	`Russ`	`thats ok`
`03:56:17`	`BZFlag`	`if it finds a completely empty block it uses it.`
`03:56:38`	`BZFlag`	`else it ignores the block IIRC.`
`03:57:15`	`BZFlag`	`there was a bug posted where jffs2 would erase non-jffs2 filesystems, so the erase unknown block code was removed.`
`03:57:26`	`Russ`	`it was?`
`03:57:29`	`Russ`	`thats not right`
`03:57:42`	`BZFlag`	`it should erase other filesystems?`
`03:57:44`	`Russ`	`oh, wait, I see what you are saying`
`03:57:56`	`Russ`	`I think it sees if it can find something jffs2 first`
`03:58:59`	`BZFlag`	`I think it will try to erase any blocks after the valid image till the end of the partition, but if it finds one random suspected good block, that will mess up.`
`03:59:19`	`BZFlag`	`hence the need for the bootloader to erase the remaining blocks.`
`04:00:28`	`BZFlag`	`I just uploaded a 3M file of 0xff, that did it, but took a while as you can imagine.`
`04:02:27`	`Russ`	`the nico image is nearly 3M`
`04:04:02`	`Russ`	`building tinylogin....`
`04:11:20`	`BZFlag`	`yeah, I just remounted / rw and it reports 0 free`
`04:15:24`	`Russ`	`I noticed`
`04:18:24`	`BZFlag`	`though it did find like 20 blocks that it marked dirty!?`
`04:18:54`	`Russ`	`then its probably an image thats aleady been used`
`04:19:06`	`Russ`	`er, why is it dirty`
`04:19:43`	`BZFlag`	`dont know.`
`04:19:56`	`BZFlag`	`I wrote all 0xff first remember.`
`04:25:20`	`BZFlag`	`empty blocks should get marked dirty till GC erases them later.`
`04:41:16`	`BZFlag`	`I mailed the jffs list, and forgot to mention the kernel version... ;-/`
`04:41:20`	`BZFlag`	`night!`
`06:48:19`	`sammy`	`{{{{{{{ sammy }}}}}}}`
`08:12:00`	`erikm`	`damn`
`08:12:26`	`sammy`	`what's up !?`
`08:12:34`	`erikm`	`cvs update on the wrong branch`
`08:18:30`	`sammy`	`erikm: where U define the Ser1UTDR1 and UTCR0_1StpBit`
`08:21:03`	`sammy`	`and as U say that CVS add the command and support on blob`
`08:21:53`	`sammy`	`means can get new blob from CVS again the same way ....?`
`09:37:22`	`sammy`	`go ....`
`17:43:27`	`erikm`	`relocation went ok`
`17:43:35`	`erikm`	`now compiling a kernel`
`17:44:40`	`Russ\|werk`	`and supposively paramaters will pass?`
`17:45:58`	`erikm`	`yes`
`17:46:00`	`erikm`	`I hope so`
`17:48:31`	`erikm`	`let's try it immediately with the hard disk as root`
`17:48:36`	`erikm`	`no risk no fun, right?`
`17:53:02`	`erikm`	`ok, half of it works`
`17:53:12`	`erikm`	`ide_setup: idebus=33`
`17:53:20`	`erikm`	`so the commandline node works`
`17:53:34`	`erikm`	`apparently the memory nodes don't`
`17:54:07`	`erikm`	`and the root node also works`
`17:57:42`	`erikm`	`puts some debug printks into the kernel`
`18:02:23`	`Russ\|werk`	`you didn't before?`
`18:03:11`	`erikm`	`nope`
`18:09:11`	`erikm`	`woohoo!`
`18:09:14`	`erikm`	`blob> boot console=ttySA0,9600 idebus=33 root=/dev/hda1 single`
`18:09:23`	`erikm`	`Kernel command line: console=ttySA0,9600 idebus=33 root=/dev/hda1 single`
`18:09:29`	`erikm`	`Memory: 8MB 8MB 8MB 8MB 64MB = 96MB total`
`18:09:46`	`erikm`	`Give root password for maintenance`
`18:09:46`	`erikm`	`(or type Control-D for normal startup):`
`18:20:37`	`Russ\|werk`	`very nice`
`18:20:49`	`Russ\|werk`	`can you email me the patch to lart.c?`
`18:22:03`	`erikm`	`Russ\|werk: not yet, it needs some other kernel work as well`
`18:22:22`	`Russ\|werk`	`like what?`
`18:22:52`	`erikm`	`the node ID is not correctly set when using ATAG_MEM nodes`
`18:23:22`	`Russ\|werk`	`I'm confused`
`18:23:50`	`Russ\|werk`	`if you use ATAG_MEM nodes, do you have to change you <sa1100_arch>.c file around?`
`18:24:29`	`erikm`	`yes, first of all you have to tell where your bootloader puts the arguments`
`18:25:07`	`erikm`	`Russ\|werk: and because blob is the first bootloader on SA1100 that properly uses the ATAG_* stuff, we're running into a bug right now`
`18:32:23`	`erikm`	`re BZFlag`
`18:32:40`	`erikm`	`BZFlag: so marc also ordered a tuxscreen`
`18:35:37`	`erikm`	`BZFlag: (marc == marc joosen)`
`18:37:11`	`Russ\|werk`	`so all the arches that want to use ATAG_MEM need to modify their arch file with an ifdef atag bootloader?`
`18:37:33`	`rmk`	`no, we're solving it...`
`18:37:40`	`erikm`	`no, they can also use the older, less flexible format`
`18:38:28`	`erikm`	`but the new format is pretty neat. the old one couldn't describe more than one memory zone, the new one has no problems with that`
`18:38:49`	`rmk`	`and its far more flexible and extendable`
`18:39:01`	`erikm`	`sure`
`18:39:19`	`erikm`	`rmk: I suppose you're going to ditch the old one in 2.5?`
`18:39:40`	`rmk`	`nope - I made a promise to keep it around for the next 5 years`
`18:40:06`	`rmk`	`there's too many boot loaders out there to modify ;(`
`18:40:16`	`erikm`	`put such a comment in the source`
`18:42:24`	`Russ\|werk`	`btw, what exactly is an assabet frontlight`
`18:42:25`	`rmk`	`patch? ;)`
`18:43:03`	`erikm`	`rmk: will do`
`18:43:09`	`rmk`	`thanks`
`19:33:01`	`BZFlag`	`erikm: I got marc's order. will ship tomorrow.`
`19:33:20`	`erikm`	`BZFlag: he will be enlightened ;)`
`19:33:43`	`Russ\|werk`	`enlightened?`
`19:33:45`	`erikm`	`BZFlag: (and I will have something to hack on when I'm in the US)`
`20:59:25`	`erikm`	`bye`