| 04:09:46 | Russ | damn, the first two gpio's are routed under the chip |
| 04:09:59 | sammy | I am Back !! |
| 04:10:06 | BZFlag | sa gpios? |
| 04:10:10 | BZFlag | got those here... |
| 04:10:31 | BZFlag | http://www.mailgate.org/comp/comp.os.inferno/msg00206.html |
| 04:10:40 | Russ | all I see is "gpio_wheaties = 1, /* out */ |
| 04:11:05 | BZFlag | yep. ok. and that's the one your are tracing huh. sorry. |
| 04:15:41 | Russ | I think this board is 8 layer |
| 04:18:59 | Russ | very strange |
| 04:18:59 | Russ | two clueless asian people |
| 04:19:13 | Russ | both have a board that they got from someone else |
| 04:19:22 | Russ | both have no clue what it is |
| 04:19:34 | Russ | and I'm fairly certian they both have the same board |
| 04:36:27 | Russ | gpio23 looks like it is just a pullup (or down), with a spot to put a zero ohm to pull it the other way |
| 05:00:22 | Russ | Jacky? |
| 05:04:12 | Russ | who is jacky |
| 05:22:09 | Jacky | Hallo! Russ |
| 05:27:03 | sammy | I need some C language Book ...!! someone suggest me A Book on C |
| 05:27:03 | sammy | I need more C language book , someone suggest me that " A Book in C"By "Al Kelley"and "Ira Pohl" ...!! what U think ? |
| 05:27:03 | Jacky | I am a student at NTUST(National Taiwan University of Science and Technology) |
| 05:27:37 | sammy | Russ :? BZFlag :? |
| 05:33:13 | Jacky | I am a beginner of BLOB |
| 05:35:46 | Russ | sammy: maybe the C faq? |
| 05:36:09 | Russ | http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html |
| 05:37:02 | Russ | the gcc manual |
| 05:37:03 | Russ | http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-2.95.3/gcc.html |
| 05:38:29 | BZFlag | to much for me |
| 05:39:08 | sammy | as U mean ,that is all on web , should I need Hand book ? |
| 05:39:56 | Russ | depends on how much you know |
| 05:40:35 | sammy | thank's first ,this two web side is so useful to me ...!! |
| 05:41:04 | Russ | http://www.gnu.org/manual/glibc-2.2.3/ |
| 05:41:11 | Russ | and the glibc manual |
| 05:42:15 | sammy | when I saw the sorce , find out that my knowledge base is not strong ....!! |
| 05:43:38 | sammy | or download the page and use them ? |
| 05:44:10 | Russ | I just use them online, but I am in the US |
| 05:45:02 | Russ | there are info pages for the gnu stuff if you are familiar with info pages |
| 05:45:02 | Russ | and the C-faq is mirrored everywhere |
| 05:47:28 | sammy | ohh !! I see ....!! |
| 06:51:00 | sammy | at this page /~scs/c-faq/top.html , Russ can U try prass any hyperlink for me , it's sounds like can't connect ... |
| 06:54:09 | Russ | C-faq |
| 06:56:26 | sammy | oh !! I am drink to much ,sorry ...!! |
| 08:18:09 | sammy | Hi !! erikm .....!! |
| 08:18:17 | erikm | good morning |
| 08:18:21 | erikm | gets coffee |
| 08:18:33 | sammy | what time is it ? |
| 08:18:41 | erikm | 11:20 |
| 08:18:51 | erikm | I slept late after a long night of blob hacking :) |
| 08:19:13 | erikm | sammy: the latest blob CVS version has a porting guide |
| 08:19:46 | sammy | ohh ...!! that's great ...!! |
| 08:20:51 | sammy | download place ? on LART ? SorceForge ? |
| 08:22:16 | sammy | now I am hard reading the code U made !! |
| 08:32:59 | erikm | sourceforge |
| 08:33:22 | erikm | in the CVS tree, check out the blob_1_0_9_hack release |
| 08:33:32 | erikm | (which has lots of other goodies as well |
| 08:53:02 | sammy | erikm : is that file name "blob_1_0_9_hack" ? |
| 08:55:27 | sammy | Or can U detail me more , maybe I think wrong way about your massage ...!! |
| 08:55:58 | erikm | sammy, no that is the CVS branch |
| 08:58:12 | erikm | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.blob.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/blob login |
| 08:58:34 | erikm | (password is anonymous) |
| 08:58:58 | erikm | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.blob.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/blob co -r blob_1_0_9_hack blob |
| 10:29:28 | sammy | erikm : tell U one ture thing ...!! |
| 10:30:24 | sammy | I can't use cvs in linux , I haven't use it before ...!! |
| 10:30:42 | erikm | what do you mean with "can't use"? |
| 10:31:01 | erikm | don't understand it, or it isn't installed? |
| 10:32:04 | sammy | I type "cvs....." that but it can't work ....!! |
| 10:32:13 | erikm | what do you mean with "can't work"? |
| 10:33:24 | sammy | is that type U say , it can login into cvs.blob.sorceForge ? |
| 10:34:08 | sammy | or it must use some software to login ? |
| 10:34:17 | erikm | what kind of error do you get |
| 10:38:26 | sammy | authorization failed :server cvs.blob.sourceforge.net rejected access |
| 10:39:28 | erikm | ah, I see. my fault |
| 10:39:38 | erikm | there is no password for the login, just press enter |
| 10:41:29 | sammy | if I pass <enter> it will return to my place ]$ (I use RedHat) |
| 10:43:02 | erikm | that's good |
| 10:43:18 | erikm | now do cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.blob.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/blob co -r blob_1_0_9_hack blob |
| 10:45:02 | sammy | it say "[server aborted]:no such tag blob_1_0_9_hank" ...!! |
| 10:45:53 | erikm | hack, not hank |
| 10:47:00 | sammy | I try again !! |
| 10:48:01 | sammy | ok !! it download ......!! thank a lot ...!! |
| 10:52:50 | sammy | normally , I use windows 2000 (some os with famous death blue screen) be my work place !! |
| 10:53:15 | sammy | and telnet to my server RedHat 6.22 to work on there ...!! |
| 10:55:03 | sammy | so I always on http://sourcefforge.net/ to get the information I want , and I know U also from there...!! |
| 10:56:07 | sammy | so that's shame , can't use CVS ....!! |
| 10:56:38 | erikm | install linux on your machine and run win2000 in vmware |
| 10:57:24 | erikm | you can't do serious linux work without a linux machine |
| 11:00:15 | sammy | I got TWO PC so I can compiler some code on linux and talk to U (like right now) on PC ...!! |
| 11:01:18 | sammy | I always use telnet to my LINUX ...!! |
| 11:02:59 | erikm | doesn't see a need for a windows PC anyway |
| 11:03:49 | sammy | I think U must use debian right ? |
| 11:04:09 | erikm | well, I do use debian, but it is not a "must" |
| 11:04:16 | erikm | linux is all about choice |
| 11:04:34 | sammy | Ya ..!! |
| 11:04:58 | sammy | but U don't know one more thing ...!! |
| 11:05:28 | sammy | I got very poor english.........!! |
| 11:05:43 | sammy | can't U feel that ...!! |
| 11:07:18 | erikm | just practice |
| 11:07:46 | erikm | most people will understand anyway and let you know when they really don't understand |
| 11:08:02 | sammy | when I talk to U , some thing I want to ask , some question I need to make U understand ,it's all let me use all I can say to U ...!! |
| 11:09:02 | sammy | but still a little difference.... |
| 11:10:09 | sammy | if U know what country I am , U will not be feel stranger...!! |
| 11:10:27 | erikm | taiwan, right? |
| 11:10:38 | sammy | Ya...!! |
| 11:11:43 | sammy | with lot of poor English , and Hard work on Embedded system ,start from "blob" ,"LART"...... |
| 11:12:13 | sammy | it's a long long way ....!! |
| 11:12:49 | sammy | but I like it , and still got I little late to join in ...!! |
| 11:14:56 | sammy | maybe next week , our boss will pay it for one development board , and the LART+KSB maybe the choose ...!! |
| 11:15:20 | erikm | cool |
| 11:16:57 | sammy | but now I still study hard to read Ur code to Know how it work ..!! |
| 11:20:31 | erikm | it should be easier in the current CVS version |
| 11:21:21 | sammy | so I must try harder to join in U ....!! |
| 11:24:42 | sammy | anyway !! if I can't buy the book "ARM aechitceure Reference Manual " (not I would, it's can't find) where can I know about the virtual instruction . the ARM Web side ? |
| 11:28:44 | erikm | ask your local ARM distributor for the PDF file of that document |
| 11:30:04 | erikm | or ask for it at the ARM web site. I just used http://www.arm.com/aboutarm/contact?OpenDocument |
| 11:30:14 | erikm | and asked for the ARM architecture reference manual |
| 11:30:25 | erikm | (in pdf format) |
| 11:34:23 | sammy | ok !! that's my way on that ....!! |
| 11:35:58 | erikm | note that it is a 14MB document, so be sure that your mailbox can handle that |
| 11:39:53 | sammy | no problem !! my mail box is 50MB ...!! |
| 11:40:09 | erikm | good |
| 11:40:30 | sammy | or I can add it to 100MB ...!! |
| 12:09:29 | sammy | it's time to take a rest and have a (late) night snack.....!! |
| 15:47:59 | Russ | "oh !! I am drink to much ,sorry ...!!" |
| 15:50:25 | Russ | Only stranges signs appears on the screens! |
| 16:10:36 | erikm | hi Russ |
| 16:10:40 | erikm | !! |
| 16:16:10 | erikm | and another bot joins the channel :) |
| 16:16:19 | | :) |
| 16:16:19 | erikm | ibot: have a botsnack |
| 16:16:27 | erikm | lxrbot: have a botsnack too |
| 16:16:27 | lxrbot | :) |
| 16:21:39 | Russ | we need lots of bots then, eh? |
| 16:21:47 | erikm | sure |
| 16:22:29 | erikm | is working on memory detection for blob |
| 16:30:49 | erikm | hmm, first lets see if I can get a data segment |
| 16:30:55 | erikm | .data, I mean |
| 16:30:59 | erikm | and a .bss |
| 16:51:25 | erikm | cool! looks like we have both a .data and a .bss segment |
| 16:54:28 | Russ|werk | which is important because.... |
| 16:54:42 | erikm | now we can have global variables |
| 16:54:52 | Russ|werk | ah |
| 16:56:15 | erikm | the new "load blob from serial port" patch also works very nice :) |
| 16:57:21 | Russ|werk | should speed deveopment |
| 16:57:37 | Russ|werk | now...where are those tftp patches |
| 16:57:52 | Russ|werk | did you send wookey a driver? |
| 16:58:10 | erikm | nope, I actually wanted to ask your driver :) |
| 16:58:32 | Russ|werk | ok, I'll send him what I have atm and cc it to you |
| 16:58:58 | Russ|werk | I #ifdef'd all the memory mode stuff with PCMCIA_MEM0_BASE or something liek that |
| 16:59:55 | Russ|werk | yah, so if PCMCIA_MEM_0_BASE ever gets defined/remapped, memory mode might work |
| 17:00:00 | erikm | Russ|werk: also thought about sending it to andrew morton? |
| 17:00:08 | Russ|werk | I can CC it there too |
| 17:00:11 | erikm | (i.e. the current maintainer) |
| 17:00:16 | erikm | hi tim |
| 17:00:58 | erikm | btw, did one of you have a look at the "porting blob" section in the README file? |
| 17:01:30 | Russ|werk | I skimmed it |
| 17:02:03 | Russ|werk | erikm: the current timings for the shannon are looser than what they could be, correct? |
| 17:02:29 | erikm | not sure, I have to dig up jdb's memory timings tool |
| 17:02:43 | erikm | have to do that soonish because we also need it in the kernel |
| 17:02:44 | Russ|werk | I wrote it all out, seems sane |
| 17:03:05 | Russ|werk | just put some very complex macros into blob |
| 17:03:16 | erikm | no need for it. |
| 17:03:33 | erikm | what I want to do is to generate the correct line compile time from a memory description file |
| 17:03:54 | erikm | just what I want to do for the sa1100 clock scale driver |
| 17:04:03 | Russ|werk | 0x8300, 0xA300, 0xC300, 0xE300 <- addresses of four ethernet chips, correct? |
| 17:04:28 | erikm | I suppose so, yes |
| 17:04:31 | Russ|werk | IRQ_GPIO0, IRQ_GPIO1, IRQ_GPIO2, IRQ_GPIO3 <- and the GPIO's used for interrupts |
| 17:04:38 | erikm | yes |
| 17:10:12 | Russ|werk | ok, it should be headed for the lart list |
| 17:10:21 | Russ|werk | as long as it fit...maybe I should of gzip'd |
| 17:10:33 | erikm | I don't know the exact maximum size |
| 17:10:35 | Russ|werk | ~78k |
| 17:11:20 | erikm | hmm |
| 17:11:20 | erikm | strange bug |
| 17:11:33 | erikm | if you reboot the kernel (sysrq-b), the timer doesn't seem to run |
| 17:11:48 | Russ|werk | I told you that a long time ago (not in those words) |
| 17:12:00 | Russ|werk | the little autoboot thing never times out |
| 17:12:26 | Russ|werk | er, was that with reboot, and not with sysrq-b... |
| 17:12:35 | erikm | yes, that's what I see right now |
| 17:12:42 | Russ|werk | in any case, it seems blob might need to make the timer sane |
| 17:12:53 | erikm | looks in the bootldr source |
| 17:13:53 | erikm | hmm, bootldr doesn't seem to touch the RCNR |
| 17:14:11 | Russ|werk | maybe it has the same bug then |
| 17:17:32 | erikm | reads the sa1110 manual |
| 17:19:25 | erikm | hmm, nothing special about the 32kHz timer |
| 17:22:18 | Russ|werk | errata? |
| 17:24:42 | erikm | looks |
| 17:36:40 | erikm | hmm. not really |
| 17:47:39 | Russ|werk | how are the creditlarts then |
| 17:47:40 | Russ|werk | (noticed you said sa1110 manual) |
| 17:47:51 | erikm | Russ|werk: jdb is to a conference, so no testing takes place |
| 17:48:58 | erikm | I have a hardcopy of the sa1110 manual |
| 17:49:13 | erikm | likes hardcopies more than pdf files |
| 18:00:20 | Russ|werk | so do I (like hardcopies) |
| 18:01:38 | erikm | hmm, no errata about the 32kHz timer |
| 18:12:05 | Russ|werk | call intel? |
| 18:12:35 | erikm | I'll first ask nico and russell |
| 18:33:24 | erikm | hmm, I have and idea |
| 18:33:41 | erikm | maybe I shouldn't initialise the timer after a warm reboot |
| 18:33:48 | erikm | tries |
| 18:41:30 | erikm | nope that doesn't fix it |
| 19:01:42 | erikm | ok, it's fixed |
| 19:02:21 | erikm | turned out that the RTTR *should* be 0 after a reset, but it isn't |
| 19:02:34 | erikm | only after a cold reset |
| 19:41:10 | erikm | hmm, nico has a point |
| 19:41:26 | erikm | I shouldn't touch the RTC, but use the OS timer instead |
| 19:41:41 | BZFlag | sounds good. |
| 19:42:07 | BZFlag | you going to order one of these phones sometime? ;-) |
| 19:42:25 | erikm | BZFlag: I first have to set up a paypal account for it |
| 19:43:00 | erikm | BZFlag: let me see how that is supposed to work |
| 19:43:15 | BZFlag | you can mail me a check or money order if you like. |
| 19:43:32 | BZFlag | paypal is just easy for credit card handling etc. |
| 19:44:32 | erikm | BZFlag: checks send from europe to the US are a bit hard |
| 19:44:42 | erikm | BZFlag: close to impossible, actually |
| 20:52:30 | erikm | goes home |
| 20:53:29 | erikm | bye |