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| 09:06.30 | kerouac[m] | Hi! I want to say thanks to everybody who helped me in this support chat and had participated in asterisk development. |
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| 11:53.19 | danuan | lost verbose logging in console with asterisk -rvvvvvv , things like <info> used to show up , even though Current console verbosity: 6 |
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| 14:18.57 | danuan | sip set debug off , also turns off notices in remote console , is this normal ?would like to keep them but not detailed debugging |
| 14:19.44 | igcewieling | verbosity and debuggery are global, not per console. |
| 14:21.36 | danuan | so how do i get back notice in cli now? i lost it, and verbosity is on high but i cannot see any notices |
| 14:25.39 | igcewieling | check logger.,conf |
| 14:25.59 | igcewieling | verbosity has nothing to do with INFO |
| 14:27.58 | igcewieling | I use this on my one of my production systems: console => error,warning,notice,verbose |
| 14:34.02 | danuan | logger.conf is fine original settings |
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| 14:35.05 | danuan | just after playing with sip set debug peer,ip , and turning off debug after i lost all info on console on 2 servers |
| 14:36.10 | igcewieling | sorry, can't help you further. |
| 14:39.09 | Samot | danuan: What version of Asterisk are these two servers running? |
| 14:40.16 | danuan | 16.2.1 |
| 14:43.08 | danuan | i used to see things like trunk registrations and other things as notices in cli , without sip debug on , now i only see them in logfiles |
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| 14:53.29 | Samot | I'm on 16.16.2, I see NOTICEs |
| 14:53.58 | Samot | As for chan_sip, not really that sure. I'm like 99% off it. |
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| 20:32.37 | Micc | Anyone know if running asterisk on Intel Atom processor is a decent solution? Was looking at the specs it has less floating point and other math stuff which I'm wondering if that will affect transcoding or other asterisk functions. |
| 20:34.43 | igcewieling | Micc remember people run Asterisk on Linksys routers and Rasberry Pis. I suspect an Intel Atom should be OK. |
| 20:35.29 | igcewieling | Depends on exactly what you are doing. If you are using g729 or speex or have 150 phone calls active or something like that, I'd expect issues. |
| 20:36.52 | Micc | Yes, I understand that. While it can run on just about anything, I'm just wondering what I'm giving up. This is for a high availability hosted pbx multi-tenant system. Currently running on Xeon E5-2620 v3 |
| 20:37.24 | Micc | It seems like the new Atom chips are comparable in performance, but just wanted to make sure I'm not taking a step back. |
| 20:37.36 | igcewieling | for something like that, I have no idea. |
| 20:37.59 | Micc | Maybe it's not worth the risk. |
| 20:38.05 | igcewieling | Micc: which multi-tennant software? |
| 20:39.02 | Micc | igcewieling, mostly asterisk in containers. Some Postgres and other supporting stuff |
| 20:39.16 | igcewieling | Ah, custom stuff. |
| 20:40.14 | igcewieling | We use Bicom PBXware which I don't like very much. Not much customization options, but it does work. |
| 20:40.34 | Micc | Yes, custom for now, I have been thinking about open sourcing some of it. |
| 20:41.25 | Samot | Oh my. |
| 20:41.30 | Samot | Asterisk in containers. |
| 20:41.47 | Micc | Samot, yeah it works great. Been doing it for about 6 years now. |
| 20:42.06 | Samot | OK, not something I would do. |
| 20:42.09 | Samot | But sure. |
| 20:42.33 | igcewieling | I have a few FreePBX instances running as VMs in our NOC, but it isn't a real "product", just special cases. |
| 20:42.41 | Micc | Why is that? It's just a process running in isolation. |
| 20:43.15 | Micc | Containers are way better than VMs |
| 20:43.29 | Micc | I mean, they are meant to do different things. |
| 20:43.48 | Samot | I know. |
| 20:43.59 | Samot | And I wouldn't use docker/containers for voice servers. |
| 20:44.02 | Micc | VMs are great if you want the whole operating system running for each instance. Which is not so great for asterisk. |
| 20:44.10 | Samot | What instance? |
| 20:44.28 | Samot | Are we talking about multi-tenant by spinning up individual Asterisk instances? |
| 20:44.30 | Micc | Asterisk |
| 20:44.52 | igcewieling | I'd rather throw hardware at the problem (VMs) than throw complexity at the problem (containers), but I don't know much about containers. |
| 20:44.52 | Samot | Oh, I don't do that either. |
| 20:45.16 | Samot | One instance of Asterisk, multi-tenant |
| 20:46.03 | Micc | I feel like you've been misinformed about how containers work or don't know enough. While there is a big learning curve it's actually less complex than from a points of failure point of view. |
| 20:46.13 | Samot | I understand. |
| 20:46.19 | Micc | It runs faster than in a VM so less latency which is what you want for voice. |
| 20:46.32 | Samot | I just don't consider spinning up individual VMs or containers as a multi-tenant solution. |
| 20:47.47 | Micc | Somat, oh! Yeah I know what you're saying now. Right we don't spin up a container for each customer. We do about 1k endpoints, about 100 customers per instance. |
| 20:48.09 | Micc | Yeah spinning up a unique instance per customer wouldn't be considered multi-tenant |
| 20:54.56 | Micc | If I don't use any g722 then I wouldn't have any transcoding, just passing ulaw through. I would think the Atom processor would be fine in that situation. |
| 21:04.06 | Samot | How many calls? |
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