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09:06.30kerouac[m]Hi! I want to say thanks to everybody who helped me in this support chat and had participated in asterisk development.
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11:53.19danuanlost verbose logging in console with asterisk -rvvvvvv , things like <info> used to show up  , even though Current console verbosity:   6
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14:18.57danuansip set debug off , also turns off notices  in remote console , is this normal ?would like to keep them but not detailed debugging
14:19.44igcewielingverbosity and debuggery are global, not per console.
14:21.36danuanso how do i get back notice in cli now? i lost it,  and verbosity is on high but i cannot see any notices
14:25.39igcewielingcheck logger.,conf
14:25.59igcewielingverbosity has nothing to do with INFO
14:27.58igcewielingI use this on my one of my production systems: console => error,warning,notice,verbose
14:34.02danuanlogger.conf is fine  original settings
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14:35.05danuanjust after playing with sip set debug peer,ip  , and turning off debug after i lost all info on console on 2 servers
14:36.10igcewielingsorry, can't help you further.
14:39.09Samotdanuan: What version of Asterisk are these two servers running?
14:40.16danuan16.2.1
14:43.08danuani used to see things like trunk registrations and other things as notices in cli , without sip debug on , now i only see them in logfiles
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14:53.29SamotI'm on 16.16.2, I see NOTICEs
14:53.58SamotAs for chan_sip, not really that sure. I'm like 99% off it.
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20:32.37MiccAnyone know if running asterisk on Intel Atom processor is a decent solution? Was looking at the specs it has less floating point and other math stuff which I'm wondering if that will affect transcoding or other asterisk functions.
20:34.43igcewielingMicc remember people run Asterisk on Linksys routers and Rasberry Pis.  I suspect an Intel Atom should be OK.
20:35.29igcewielingDepends on exactly what you are doing.    If you are using g729 or speex or have 150 phone calls active or something like that, I'd expect issues.
20:36.52MiccYes, I understand that. While it can run on just about anything, I'm just wondering what I'm giving up. This is for a high availability hosted pbx multi-tenant system. Currently running on Xeon E5-2620 v3
20:37.24MiccIt seems like the new Atom chips are comparable in performance, but just wanted to make sure I'm not taking a step back.
20:37.36igcewielingfor something like that, I have no idea.
20:37.59MiccMaybe it's not worth the risk.
20:38.05igcewielingMicc: which multi-tennant software?
20:39.02Miccigcewieling, mostly asterisk in containers. Some Postgres and other supporting stuff
20:39.16igcewielingAh, custom stuff.
20:40.14igcewielingWe use Bicom PBXware which I don't like very much.   Not much customization options, but it does work.
20:40.34MiccYes, custom for now, I have been thinking about open sourcing some of it.
20:41.25SamotOh my.
20:41.30SamotAsterisk in containers.
20:41.47MiccSamot, yeah it works great. Been doing it for about 6 years now.
20:42.06SamotOK, not something I would do.
20:42.09SamotBut sure.
20:42.33igcewielingI have a few FreePBX instances running as VMs in our NOC, but it isn't a real "product", just special cases.
20:42.41MiccWhy is that? It's just a process running in isolation.
20:43.15MiccContainers are way better than VMs
20:43.29MiccI mean, they are meant to do different things.
20:43.48SamotI know.
20:43.59SamotAnd I wouldn't use docker/containers for voice servers.
20:44.02MiccVMs are great if you want the whole operating system running for each instance. Which is not so great for asterisk.
20:44.10SamotWhat instance?
20:44.28SamotAre we talking about multi-tenant by spinning up individual Asterisk instances?
20:44.30MiccAsterisk
20:44.52igcewielingI'd rather throw hardware at the problem (VMs) than throw complexity at the problem (containers), but I don't know much about containers.
20:44.52SamotOh, I don't do that either.
20:45.16SamotOne instance of Asterisk, multi-tenant
20:46.03MiccI feel like you've been misinformed about how containers work or don't know enough. While there is a big learning curve it's actually less complex than from a points of failure point of view.
20:46.13SamotI understand.
20:46.19MiccIt runs faster than in a VM so less latency which is what you want for voice.
20:46.32SamotI just don't consider spinning up individual VMs or containers as a multi-tenant solution.
20:47.47MiccSomat, oh! Yeah I know what you're saying now. Right we don't spin up a container for each customer. We do about 1k endpoints, about 100 customers per instance.
20:48.09MiccYeah spinning up a unique instance per customer wouldn't be considered multi-tenant
20:54.56MiccIf I don't use any g722 then I wouldn't have any transcoding, just passing ulaw through. I would think the Atom processor would be fine in that situation.
21:04.06SamotHow many calls?
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