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| 16:28.46 | khobo | what are Polycom CAB files for UC Software 6.3.1.8427 for VVX Business Media, Business IP Phones Phones and SoundStructure |
| 16:28.50 | khobo | poly cab files? |
| 16:29.34 | khobo | https://support.polycom.com/content/support/north-america/usa/en/support/voice/polycom-uc/polycom-uc-software-support-center.html#6.3.1.8427 |
| 16:29.37 | khobo | looking at this right now |
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| 16:31.05 | Samot | Stop looking at it. |
| 16:31.17 | Samot | I don't know how many times we need to go over this. You have a SIGNLE phone. |
| 16:31.28 | Samot | None of that is relevant. |
| 16:31.44 | Samot | Single* |
| 16:32.26 | khobo | wellllllllllllll |
| 16:32.31 | khobo | he's actually sending me a replacement |
| 16:32.34 | khobo | so there will be 2 phones now |
| 16:32.36 | khobo | =p |
| 16:32.46 | khobo | also dude if i can't get teh config files from USB |
| 16:32.53 | khobo | i kinda do need the provisioning |
| 16:33.41 | Samot | No, no you don't. |
| 16:33.49 | Samot | Consider that you can import them via the web GUI. |
| 16:33.57 | khobo | flares nose |
| 16:34.16 | khobo | i still need the source though |
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| 16:34.39 | cation21 | https://www.avaya.com/en/devices-and-phones/ip-phones/j179-tsg/ |
| 16:34.40 | cation21 | ooh |
| 16:34.45 | cation21 | I wonder how long until they wind up on ebay |
| 16:36.05 | drmessano | Is ebay a trash? |
| 16:36.19 | khobo | oh i see so i hit phone backup export |
| 16:36.22 | khobo | it downloaded a .pbu |
| 16:36.27 | khobo | and i can make edits from this puppy, no? |
| 16:36.29 | cation21 | haha |
| 16:36.39 | cation21 | TSG phones are neat |
| 16:36.45 | cation21 | (I think) |
| 16:37.01 | Samot | khobo: No. |
| 16:37.13 | Samot | khobo: That is export and import, no edit. |
| 16:37.18 | Samot | You need to export the configs. |
| 16:38.58 | khobo | okay got them |
| 16:39.04 | khobo | what's the difference between these and the .pbu? |
| 16:39.10 | khobo | pbu = device settings only? |
| 16:40.31 | Samot | One is a binary file and the other are text files. |
| 16:40.32 | khobo | ahh i see phonebackup |
| 16:40.33 | khobo | obviously |
| 16:40.48 | khobo | so basically you use these cfgs to generate the .pbu |
| 16:40.54 | Samot | Sure. |
| 16:41.06 | Samot | It all depends on what you actually need. |
| 16:41.16 | khobo | yahyah just exploring right now |
| 16:41.53 | khobo | also i wanted to look at these aux port settings |
| 16:41.58 | khobo | see if usb was blocked thatway |
| 16:42.08 | Samot | No, it wasn't. |
| 16:42.25 | Samot | You have an issue with your USB sticks not the USB port so far. |
| 16:42.40 | khobo | yeah i tried two different brands |
| 16:42.45 | khobo | kinda nuts whatever is wrong with them |
| 16:42.58 | Samot | What two different brands? |
| 16:43.03 | khobo | sandisk |
| 16:43.05 | khobo | and kingston |
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| 17:10.40 | khobo | https://documents.polycom.com/bundle/ucs-ag-6-3-0/page/r-ucs-ag-provisioning-parameters.html |
| 17:10.56 | khobo | so i get provisioning server failed message on bootup.. if i wanted to fix that |
| 17:11.11 | khobo | i need to set prov.startupCheck.enabled to 0 |
| 17:11.34 | khobo | now where do i add that into? device settings.cfg? or explort_all.cfg |
| 17:12.54 | khobo | https://documents.polycom.com/bundle/ucs-ag-6-3-0/page/r-ucs-ag-configuration-parameters.html |
| 17:13.07 | khobo | would be nice if they had an explanation in this section lmao |
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| 17:25.29 | Samot | There's no provisioning server configured in the phone. |
| 17:25.40 | Samot | That's why you get that notice, not an error. |
| 17:26.25 | Samot | khobo: The admin guide has all this in it. |
| 17:26.55 | khobo | i know there's no provisioning server,.. i'm trying to update teh config files so it doesn't auto check on startup |
| 17:28.06 | igcewieling | khobo: dude, if there is no provisioning server, then the phone will never download the config files from that server. |
| 17:28.29 | khobo | right but through the gui |
| 17:28.34 | khobo | you upload the .cfg files |
| 17:29.12 | khobo | holy on let's back up here.. on boot the phone says "failure to provision" bc there's no server.. i'm trying to disable that which is with a parameter |
| 17:29.24 | igcewieling | khobo: I've never needed to. But I've always used a provisioning server. |
| 17:29.45 | khobo | you're so funny |
| 17:30.05 | igcewieling | no, seriously. I don't know anyone who configures their polycom phones via the phone GUI. |
| 17:30.23 | khobo | yeah... well samot is saying it'd be a stupid thing to do |
| 17:30.27 | khobo | since there's only one phone |
| 17:30.30 | khobo | i already have the FTP setup |
| 17:30.37 | khobo | all i need to do are add the files in there |
| 17:30.46 | khobo | i asked earlier... what are cab files and samot said that was stupid |
| 17:31.16 | khobo | so now i exported the .cfg files from gui and editing that |
| 17:31.29 | khobo | but lots of parameters are missing since it's only got what the phone has on it now |
| 17:31.43 | khobo | and trying to figure out where certain parameters go.. |
| 17:32.46 | Samot | Sigh. |
| 17:33.23 | khobo | i know dude i |
| 17:33.39 | khobo | at this rate this could take weeks |
| 17:34.59 | Samot | khobo: What is the end goal here? |
| 17:36.02 | khobo | the PBX is setup about 90% of the way |
| 17:36.15 | khobo | voip.ms hasn't been connected to it yet but they'll be able to help me with that |
| 17:36.45 | khobo | at this point just a general idea of how the actual polycom devices are setup |
| 17:37.35 | khobo | really the only part confusing me is the .cfg files at this point |
| 17:37.37 | khobo | and where to add things in |
| 17:37.45 | igcewieling | https://support.polycom.com/content/dam/polycom-support/products/voice/soundstation-ip-series/setup-maintenance/en/how-to-provision.pdf The XML editing part is sort of stupid, but it should explain what files the phone expects to download. |
| 17:38.25 | Samot | Add what things? |
| 17:38.42 | khobo | https://documents.polycom.com/bundle/ucs-ag-6-3-0/page/r-ucs-ag-provisioning-parameters.html |
| 17:38.51 | khobo | prov.startupCheck.enabled |
| 17:38.56 | Samot | The admin guide has all the config settings. |
| 17:39.12 | Samot | OK outside of something that doesn't impact how the phone works... |
| 17:39.18 | Samot | What are you trying to do with this phone? |
| 17:39.28 | khobo | Samot: so when you go to export teh config file |
| 17:39.30 | khobo | you get two options |
| 17:39.40 | Samot | No, you get multiple options. |
| 17:39.48 | igcewieling | my 0000000.cfg https://pastebin.com/uwnCELLG |
| 17:39.48 | khobo | just stay with me for half a minute |
| 17:39.49 | Samot | At least 4-5. |
| 17:40.04 | khobo | you can download Everything (minus phone device config) |
| 17:40.10 | khobo | or go through and download everything individually |
| 17:40.26 | Samot | But that's more than 2 options. |
| 17:40.37 | igcewieling | Samot: he means in the phone gui |
| 17:40.38 | Samot | I'm well aware of how Polycom phones work. |
| 17:40.42 | Samot | I know. |
| 17:40.43 | Samot | JFC. |
| 17:40.47 | khobo | yeah, i guess for someone who needs things very literally spelled out for them |
| 17:40.48 | khobo | yes |
| 17:40.51 | khobo | you're right its more than 2 options |
| 17:40.58 | Samot | You hit the export dropdown there are 5 options to export. |
| 17:41.06 | khobo | All configuration (except device settings) |
| 17:41.09 | Samot | Yes, some are individual. |
| 17:41.13 | khobo | or everything individually |
| 17:41.29 | khobo | now let's say for example i wanted to add in prov.startupCheck.enabled |
| 17:41.38 | khobo | which .cfg would that go into? |
| 17:41.48 | Samot | This is covered in the admin guide. |
| 17:41.51 | khobo | export_all.cfg or export_device_settings.cfg |
| 17:41.52 | Samot | I keep saying this. |
| 17:42.00 | khobo | you know it would take 30 seconds |
| 17:42.01 | Samot | You want to know how this all works, read the admin guide. |
| 17:42.11 | khobo | maybe even 5 seconds |
| 17:42.15 | Samot | You want to know how this all works, read the admin guide. |
| 17:42.19 | Samot | That's how that works. |
| 17:42.38 | khobo | oh i see what you're doing here |
| 17:42.47 | Samot | What is that? |
| 17:42.49 | khobo | gate keeping |
| 17:42.55 | Samot | HAHAHAHA |
| 17:42.56 | Samot | OK |
| 17:43.07 | Samot | You're asking questions that are documented. |
| 17:43.16 | Samot | You said you're doing this to learn how the phone works |
| 17:43.32 | Samot | But you want me to give you the answers to each of your individual questions that could be answered by reading. |
| 17:43.41 | Samot | But I'm gatekeeping? |
| 17:43.49 | khobo | possibly |
| 17:43.49 | Samot | That's rich. |
| 17:44.51 | igcewieling | It is the whole âGive a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.â thing. |
| 17:45.44 | igcewieling | ..e.r..wrong one. I mean "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for his life time. " |
| 17:45.52 | khobo | same idea |
| 17:46.37 | Samot | Apparently when people announce they want to learn and you send them to textbooks, documentation and resources for learning, you're gate keeping. |
| 17:47.09 | Samot | I wonder if this is what teachers have to put up withi n 2020. |
| 17:47.36 | Samot | "Mrs. Johnston, you're not giving me the answer to question 32 on this test. You're gate keeping." |
| 17:47.49 | khobo | the document is 400 pages |
| 17:47.51 | khobo | let's get real on that |
| 17:47.55 | Samot | OH |
| 17:47.59 | Samot | But the fact I READ IT |
| 17:48.06 | Samot | And can give you an answer in 5 seconds... |
| 17:48.08 | khobo | ahhh okay clearly said something to set you off |
| 17:48.10 | khobo | sorry man |
| 17:48.14 | Samot | Let's get real on that... |
| 17:48.33 | Samot | You basically just said "It's 400 pages, let's be real. I ain't reading that" |
| 17:48.43 | Samot | But you want me to give you an answer in 5 seconds because I know it. |
| 17:48.48 | Samot | Why do I know it? I read the 400 pages. |
| 17:48.54 | khobo | ahhh okay |
| 17:48.55 | khobo | sorry |
| 17:49.03 | khobo | have a good day Samot |
| 17:49.12 | Samot | I'm having a wonderful day. |
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| 18:13.47 | drmessano | I saw that coming |
| 18:20.59 | khobo | i think partly the documentation is pretty bad |
| 18:21.04 | khobo | the poly website is a shit show |
| 18:21.29 | khobo | so for example -> configuring security options -> administrator and user passwords -> 4 ways to change defualt password |
| 18:21.35 | khobo | d. Use the parameter reg.1.auth.password |
| 18:21.42 | khobo | now is that a device parameter or config patameter? |
| 18:21.44 | khobo | it doesn't say.. |
| 18:22.01 | khobo | so i've gotta wait until 300 pages down to figure that out |
| 18:24.16 | drmessano | 13:33:40 <khobo> at this rate this could take weeks |
| 18:24.45 | drmessano | I think it's your whole attitude |
| 18:25.42 | drmessano | Been following this since the "I want a $30 phone and dont give me any shit" conversation and this has "Chat McDonalds" written all over it |
| 18:26.12 | drmessano | You think any of us fap over 400 page admin manuals? no |
| 18:27.15 | drmessano | But yeah I am not gonna sit on IRC and act like a google proxy because someone doesn't want to read |
| 18:27.34 | drmessano | That's not gatekeeping |
| 18:27.53 | drmessano | That's not being a schmuck |
| 18:28.08 | drmessano | The difference between "help" and "do it for me" |
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| 23:09.22 | Samot | Well I missed something. |
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