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| 08:16.31 | EmleyMoor | Is there an easy way to set up a 3-way call using a DAHDI phone/ |
| 08:16.34 | EmleyMoor | ? |
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| 10:35.08 | Zombie | I'm just going to have to mail my documentation Postal. |
| 10:39.20 | drmessano | Are you asking for help with that? |
| 11:15.52 | Zombie | Well, I failed to get the Fax Aspect of my VOIP setup functioning in time. |
| 11:16.09 | drmessano | ok |
| 11:16.30 | Zombie | I still want to go ahead with the Fax Aspect. |
| 11:19.07 | sibiria | you can fax directly from within Asterisk. there's no need to do it through a Windows application that interacts with Asterisk |
| 11:19.22 | sibiria | just an fyi in case that might be a solution to your fax problems |
| 11:30.43 | post-factum | what's this ongoing fax drama about? |
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| 11:52.17 | Zombie | I don't use Windows. |
| 11:52.50 | Zombie | I don't mind being able to Fax from Asterisk Directly. |
| 11:52.59 | Zombie | HylaFax is optional. |
| 11:53.45 | sibiria | well, Windows, Linux, whatever you run HylaFax on. same difference |
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| 11:59.11 | Zombie | Unlike Voice, all the stuff I have seen deals with Asterisk connecting to HylaFax via IAX Modem |
| 12:00.34 | sibiria | those setups use Asterisk just to get a computerized phone connection, and HylaFax to do the sending/receiving |
| 12:01.31 | sibiria | it's a natural choice if you can't use a normal modem and at the same time need a desktop application for managing your fax imaging |
| 12:13.24 | Zombie | This is with VOIP/SIP Provider. |
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| 12:37.20 | ritztech | im looking to spawn a development team for custom app. Does anyone have experience in which sip stacks i can go towards nowadays is stable. i see PJSip,CsipSimple,Mjsip,etc etc |
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| 12:47.11 | drmessano | PJSIP seems pretty stable |
| 12:47.20 | drmessano | I heard even Asterisk is thinking about adopting it |
| 12:48.08 | sibiria | ritztech: pjsip and sofia-sip are the two most popular ones |
| 12:51.35 | seanbright | mjsip is java... so no |
| 12:52.01 | seanbright | and csipsimple is a phone |
| 12:52.05 | seanbright | ... which uses pjsip |
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| 13:03.15 | Zombie | I'm going to have to go with HylaFax simply because. |
| 13:03.59 | Zombie | No one has offered me a reasonable alternative, |
| 13:07.08 | ritztech | ahhh ya cause we were also looking at linphone but the github was meh and they didnt seem to support BLF |
| 13:07.24 | ritztech | at least i saw that on issue tracker |
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| 13:40.31 | Samot | Zombie: You were told to just get a fax service. |
| 13:42.27 | Samot | Zombie: So you were given options. Just like you were given options for your SIP trunk and you picked thw wrost one. |
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| 13:43.42 | Zombie | Samot, SIP trunk is working fine. |
| 13:43.59 | Samot | That's not the point. |
| 13:44.08 | Samot | And it was a pain to get it to work |
| 13:44.45 | Samot | The point is, you're sitting saying no one has given alternatives when that is a lie. |
| 13:44.54 | Samot | You have been given alternatives. |
| 13:45.01 | seanbright | also: why is any of this any of our responsibility? |
| 13:45.03 | Samot | You have decided to not listen to them. |
| 13:45.22 | Samot | You decided to be a DIY and not learn how to be DIY. |
| 13:51.08 | Samot | Zombie: How far have you gotten with HylaFax and IAXModem? |
| 13:51.52 | Zombie | I'e I've gotten it connected, but it displays unusual timing errors on a regular interval I do not understand. |
| 13:52.11 | Zombie | I've alsao done a baseline setup of HylaFax. |
| 13:52.20 | Zombie | That's known to work. |
| 13:52.43 | Zombie | I'm going to start working on it, here shortly. |
| 13:52.53 | Zombie | BTW. |
| 13:52.57 | Samot | 7:15:51 AM <Zombie> Well, I failed to get the Fax Aspect of my VOIP setup functioning in time. |
| 13:53.16 | Zombie | Yes, Hylafax and IAX Modem were compiled from source by me. |
| 13:53.17 | Samot | That is BS. You were talking about HalyaFax/IAXModem months ago. |
| 13:53.28 | Zombie | I stopped working on it. |
| 13:53.32 | Samot | This "in time" crap is BS. |
| 13:53.46 | Zombie | It's my fauly. |
| 13:53.48 | Zombie | It's my fault. |
| 13:54.02 | Zombie | I fully admit it. |
| 13:55.36 | Samot | Soif you've been working on this, why is only now the first time we've heard of that? |
| 13:55.52 | Samot | Because for the last week or so it's been "I want to do the fax portion now..." |
| 13:56.15 | Samot | And been nothing but talking about wanting to do it. Where is seems you were doing it and just not sharing that part of asking for actual help. |
| 13:56.21 | Samot | So when did you actually start working on this?\ |
| 13:57.03 | Zombie | I started working on the Fax Aspect shortly after I got the VOIP stuff fully working. |
| 13:57.15 | Zombie | That was early July. |
| 13:57.45 | Zombie | And I just stopped. |
| 13:57.56 | Zombie | Which was a mistake, |
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| 14:02.11 | Zombie | https://pastebin.com/tVdKepj4 Time I did something about it. |
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| 14:04.55 | cusco | hi... sip trunk provider is returning 603 decliend, and asterisk is returning 403 Forbbiden to peer.. how can I pass the same signaling, or what is the appropriate way of doing this? |
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| 14:10.24 | Samot | So you've know about this and wanted to do this for months. You waited until basically two weeks before you had to fax something and then just stopped. |
| 14:10.58 | Samot | Instead of actually asking for help on what you've done, you've sat in here for the last week telling us how you want to make this happen. |
| 14:11.24 | Samot | Now today it's "Oh I have to mail this. Fax never got done poor me. Who can help me?|" |
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| 14:37.53 | Zombie | I screwed myself over. |
| 14:38.19 | Zombie | Lesson Learned. |
| 14:39.21 | Zombie | Yes I feel bad, okay? |
| 14:40.28 | igcewieling | Hmmm. was nice while it lasted. |
| 14:40.47 | Zombie | hm? |
| 14:59.27 | igcewieling | Has anyone around used Asterisk using a Celeron processor? If so, how did it work? |
| 15:01.43 | Samot | Probably have, can't recall. |
| 15:02.39 | Zombie | igcewieling, Remove the BUILD_NATIVE Flag. |
| 15:07.46 | sibiria | i run asterisk on a celeron. works fine |
| 15:08.10 | sibiria | a Celeron J3455 to be specific |
| 15:09.09 | sibiria | (low-power, low-performance model) |
| 15:10.12 | igcewieling | Samot: I saw a rather cool SoC product which looked interesting. |
| 15:10.25 | igcewieling | sibiria: thanks. |
| 15:10.52 | Samot | ??? |
| 15:11.25 | igcewieling | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/08/review-odyssey-x86j4105-a-mini-pc-for-makers-and-builders/ |
| 15:12.29 | sibiria | looks like a NUC but more affordable |
| 15:12.47 | igcewieling | sibiria: that is what I was thinking. |
| 15:16.44 | Samot | Yeah that might be fun for home but that's about it for me. |
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| 16:24.54 | Kobaz | polycom vvx question/weirdness.... soooooo I have this phone that basically 'cant dial 10 digits'. What happens is asterisk gets the invite, sends an OK... the phone sends an ACK... and then the phone goes busy |
| 16:25.20 | Kobaz | but the user dials 7 digits and it works every time... digit map is basically x.T, anything goes |
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| 16:25.26 | Samot | Then the phone is dialing 10 digits. |
| 16:26.31 | Samot | So what actually happens on the Asterisk side? |
| 16:27.27 | Kobaz | sooo, asterisk doesn't actually process the invite |
| 16:27.34 | Kobaz | sorry, i mixed up the flow |
| 16:27.54 | Kobaz | phone sends an invite, asterisk sends a 401... phone sends an ACK, but then never sends an authenticated invoice |
| 16:28.19 | Kobaz | i got billing on the brain.... so the phone GOT the 401, it ACK'd it. but then says i'm done, and never sends the authenticated invite |
| 16:30.03 | Samot | Show a call that does this. |
| 16:30.06 | Kobaz | getting dump |
| 16:30.07 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 16:30.25 | Kobaz | it's fscking weird as hell |
| 16:30.31 | Kobaz | i'm thinking firmware |
| 16:30.47 | Kobaz | other different model phones on the same network are going okay... so i don't think right now, it's network related |
| 16:32.16 | Samot | What's the firmware? |
| 16:32.30 | Kobaz | 6.2.0 |
| 16:32.51 | Samot | I have had zero problems with it. |
| 16:32.55 | Kobaz | yean me too |
| 16:32.58 | Kobaz | except for this, heh |
| 16:34.25 | Samot | Does it take 10 digits? |
| 16:34.39 | Kobaz | does which? |
| 16:34.42 | Kobaz | my phone here? works fine |
| 16:37.25 | Kobaz | i just had my log and my ssh died |
| 16:37.28 | Kobaz | sec |
| 16:38.37 | Samot | Sorry, does the phone take 11 digits and work fine.? Like with 7? |
| 16:38.47 | Kobaz | oh, not sure |
| 16:38.49 | Kobaz | didn't try 11 |
| 16:38.57 | Samot | I mixed it up. |
| 16:38.59 | Kobaz | oh i found my backup of the log i was snipping |
| 16:41.02 | Kobaz | https://dpaste.com/4VVHM65C5 |
| 16:43.32 | Kobaz | so like uhh |
| 16:43.40 | Kobaz | the phone just brain farts on the first call |
| 16:43.47 | Kobaz | works fine on the second |
| 16:44.01 | Kobaz | and that's consistent, like you can hit the 10 digit redial over and over and over and it will do the same thing |
| 16:44.08 | Kobaz | and the 7 digit will work just fine |
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| 16:53.25 | velix | Is there an easy way to temporary stop pjsip_outbound_registration ? |
| 16:54.12 | Samot | Kobaz: Where these calls made in secession? |
| 16:56.24 | igcewieling | velix: have you tried noloading the module? |
| 16:57.18 | velix | igcewieling: I've got other pjsip registrations running, I just want to cancel one specific one. |
| 16:57.23 | velix | The university is making problems again ;) |
| 16:57.30 | velix | And it's filling my logfile :D |
| 16:57.51 | Kobaz | Samot: yeah roughly |
| 16:58.07 | Kobaz | we're gonna get more dumps later |
| 16:58.18 | igcewieling | velix: comment out the reg info from pjsip.conf ? |
| 16:58.20 | Samot | Well I find it interesting the CSeq never changes. |
| 16:58.27 | Kobaz | but, you can go back and fourth between 10 and 7 and it's repeatible |
| 16:58.46 | velix | igcewieling: Yeah, I just thought, I could do it directly in asterisk on runtime. |
| 16:59.01 | Samot | Your 10 digit call had a CSeq of 1 |
| 16:59.10 | velix | igcewieling: Thanks for help ;) |
| 16:59.25 | Kobaz | yeah weird |
| 16:59.30 | Samot | Your 7 digit call has CSeq of 1 for the original INVITE and then 2 for the INVITE with the auth. |
| 16:59.45 | Samot | That's correct. |
| 16:59.54 | igcewieling | Could SIP ALG be involved. It usually is when really weird shit happens. |
| 17:00.20 | Samot | I doubt SIP ALG cares between 7 and 10 digits. |
| 17:00.41 | igcewieling | I agree, but "weird CSEQ issues" might. |
| 17:00.50 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 17:00.52 | Kobaz | sounds like ALG |
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| 17:01.46 | Samot | OK so you make a bunch of 7 digit calls, the CSeq goes up like it should... |
| 17:01.57 | Samot | You make a 10 digit call, you replicate the error.. |
| 17:02.01 | Kobaz | right |
| 17:02.04 | Kobaz | and then it probably resets |
| 17:02.10 | Samot | You make a 7 digit call after that. Does it have the same CSeq as the 10 digit? |
| 17:02.51 | Samot | Have you defaulted the phone? |
| 17:03.01 | Kobaz | not yet |
| 17:03.31 | Samot | Try that. |
| 17:03.46 | Samot | Because I just had a bunch that I had to default to take resourcelist updates. |
| 17:04.07 | Samot | And one of them, no matter how many times it was defaulted keeps restoring the old resoucelist it has in memory |
| 17:04.25 | Samot | Despite taking every other config option normally. So there is something up with that phone. |
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| 17:04.47 | Samot | I even defaulted it three times in a row. |
| 17:05.00 | Samot | Then had it pull the config, outdated resourcelist still came up. |
| 17:06.11 | Kobaz | hahahha my current call i was just talking to one of our distributors |
| 17:06.15 | Kobaz | the call dropped, i was like wtf |
| 17:06.31 | Kobaz | [2020-08-06 13:03:10.800] == [C-00001148] Redirecting 'SIP/5505-00000cdb' to fax extension due to CNG detection |
| 17:06.36 | Kobaz | right in the middle of the call |
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| 17:08.54 | igcewieling | you don't automatically add faxdetect=no on all non-fax devices. |
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| 17:09.38 | Kobaz | well, the call came in on a line that could take a fax |
| 17:09.53 | igcewieling | Ah. stop doing that. 8-) |
| 17:10.21 | Kobaz | weeeeel |
| 17:10.51 | Kobaz | tell people to stop using faxes |
| 17:11.01 | Kobaz | it was actually more of a test thing, that's not really a fax line |
| 17:11.18 | rmudgett | I thought we do say that. :D |
| 17:11.21 | Kobaz | it was to try and auto-detect faxes and hang up on them, so they don't ring in |
| 17:11.37 | Kobaz | i don't know how many friggin fax calls i get to my DID |
| 17:12.22 | igcewieling | DIDs are not all that expensive, using a dedicated fax DID keeps things simple. |
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| 17:14.13 | Kobaz | right |
| 17:14.23 | Kobaz | but what happens when someone has their dumb fax machine on redial all day, and hits your did |
| 17:14.31 | Kobaz | other than blocking the callerid... |
| 17:14.43 | Kobaz | so i have fax => ( Busy(); } ... seems to work |
| 17:14.58 | Kobaz | that's the first time it dropped a voice call though |
| 17:15.00 | igcewieling | I'd not thought of that. |
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| 18:41.13 | Samot | For the record, I know I have said this a few times, FAX is not dying. |
| 18:44.00 | Samot | In fact, it is increasing. |
| 18:44.53 | Zombie | [2020-08-06 14:45:30] WARNING[2806][C-0000000f]: pbx.c:4501 __ast_pbx_run: Channel 'IAX2/iaxmodem-234' sent to invalid extension but no invalid handler: context,exten,priority=fax-out |
| 18:46.00 | LowKey | Hi, I'm new here, any good guideline to start the PBX system ? |
| 18:47.08 | Samot | You mean Asterisk? |
| 18:47.12 | Samot | wiki.asterisk.org |
| 18:47.20 | Samot | The sample config files are helpful as well |
| 18:47.44 | LowKey | yes Samot |
| 18:51.40 | Zombie | Samot, I see no reason to change the Dial-out behavior for faxes, can I just do from-internal? |
| 18:51.56 | Zombie | Samot, I see no reason to change the Dial-out behavior for faxes, can I just do include => from-internal? |
| 18:52.32 | Samot | It's your dialplan. |
| 18:52.38 | Samot | Do it however you'd like. |
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| 19:25.22 | Zombie | I think it's actually working. |
| 19:52.10 | Zombie | I need a place I can actually fax too. |
| 19:53.49 | drmessano | You mean "fax to" as a destination, or "fax too" as in "in addition to" |
| 19:56.04 | Zombie | fax to |
| 19:57.15 | Samot | Wait, I thought you had a place to fax to? |
| 19:57.21 | Samot | That was the whole point of this. |
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| 19:58.02 | drmessano | That too |
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| 20:19.12 | Zombie | I can't send a government agency a random Page that says Hello World. |
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| 20:23.13 | Samot | No but you could fax them what you need to fax them. |
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| 23:32.59 | velix | Just curious: Why has MP3 support been deprecated or never been implemented like OPUS? |
| 23:33.56 | Samot | Well mp3 is not a voice codec. |
| 23:34.37 | velix | Yeah, but a music codec. So fine for MOH ? |
| 23:34.37 | Samot | mp3's are for recordings. |
| 23:34.44 | Samot | Call recordings, voicemail, etc. |
| 23:34.52 | Samot | Nothing to do with the actual media of the call. |
| 23:35.17 | Samot | Shrug, I generally don't do that because then it has to be transcoded. |
| 23:35.26 | Samot | And that's load that isn't needed. |
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