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| 03:34.41 | rjt | do /names |
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| 08:15.36 | Zombie | Does anyone here have experience connecting Asterisk to PostFix? I'm trying to E-mail Voicemails recieved by Asterisk. |
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| 08:28.05 | ruied | 'A' Call to 'B', 'B' Answer the Call and Transfer 'C'. If C doesn't answer how can B pick the C transfered call? What is the best way to do it? |
| 08:51.53 | sekil | ruied: use attended transfer |
| 08:52.04 | sekil | ruied: not blind |
| 08:57.31 | ruied | sekil, A (External person), B (HotelRecepcionist), C (room). B just wants to transfer but if no one at the room pick up the call I would like (B) to speak to (A) Person saying that it seems nobody is at the room at the moment. |
| 08:58.02 | sekil | ruied: and that's the attended transfer |
| 08:58.12 | sekil | ruied: like I said |
| 08:58.30 | sekil | ruied: nothing to be done... |
| 08:58.40 | sekil | ruied: just use it on the B's phone |
| 09:05.21 | ruied | Thanks |
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| 09:08.36 | ruied | Th person wants to make a blind transfer to the room and if no ones pick the call at leg C, than it will ring back again to B... It makes more sense with attended, but they asked if it can be done like this... I was trying with atxfernoanswertimeout=X |
| 09:08.36 | ruied | I might have the wrong concept on "attended" meaning... |
| 09:09.03 | sekil | ruied: A calls B...B answers...then presses xfer which in most phones these days is consultative/attended xfer...gets a new line ...dials C...it answers..presses xfer again... |
| 09:09.34 | sekil | ruied: if C doesnt' answer in N seconds...B goes back to its held call to A saying ...sorry C is out.. |
| 09:09.38 | sekil | ruied: and that's it |
| 09:12.55 | sekil | ruied: if you do blind..then B is out of call path... |
| 09:13.09 | sekil | ruied: so it cannot interact |
| 09:13.40 | ruied | sekil, that is it. Going to make some tests... |
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| 09:42.10 | Zombie | I think I just found out, Asterisk is compatible with Google Voice. |
| 09:42.13 | Zombie | Is this the case? |
| 10:05.44 | joepublic | In general, that's a no. |
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| 10:35.02 | Zombie | Why is that a no? |
| 10:35.12 | Zombie | Why are there posts saying it is? |
| 10:37.10 | joepublic | This post addresses the issue: https://tech.iprock.com/?p=21950 |
| 10:38.16 | file | Google changed stuff, and one of the people at Google behind Google Voice stated as well that connecting goes against terms of service and your account may be terminated, so if you try to connect you are on your own |
| 10:40.55 | TandyUK | tl;dr: Google wants you using google voice _exclusively_. They DO NOT want you to interoperate with SIP |
| 10:41.27 | TandyUK | if they did, they'd have a SIP based method for us to interoperate with their platform |
| 10:42.01 | Zombie | I see. |
| 10:42.19 | Zombie | TandyUK, Do you get your name from the Tandy 1000 Series of Computers? |
| 10:42.31 | TandyUK | MS Teams is much the same, you can buy expensive SBC's or use SS7 switches to interact, but nothing "sensible" |
| 10:42.47 | TandyUK | no, they got their name from my surname |
| 10:43.15 | Zombie | I have an agreement with a provider. |
| 10:43.23 | sibiria | why not just come out with the truth - you're a sales drone of the Tandy Corporation and you want us to buy an old-new stock of TRS-80s |
| 10:43.30 | TandyUK | lol |
| 10:43.34 | TandyUK | waste your money if you like :P |
| 10:43.57 | sibiria | NOT GONNA HAPPEN, we're going with the ZX Spectrum thank you very much |
| 10:44.08 | TandyUK | I have zero affiliation with Tandy Corp, the part of my family that created that, moved from the UK to America about 6 generations ago |
| 10:45.12 | TandyUK | I'm descended from one of the idiots who stayed in the UK lol |
| 10:45.56 | joepublic | I heard the US-based Tandy thing didn't work out in the end, so, there's that |
| 10:46.40 | Zombie | I have a Tandy 1000 TL, and am looking for something extremely rare and sought after in the Tandy community of vintage computers. |
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| 10:48.01 | sibiria | joepublic: Tandy -> RadioShack |
| 10:48.20 | sibiria | they had some luck and some bad luck |
| 10:51.35 | TandyUK | and Maplins in the UK |
| 10:51.46 | TandyUK | mainly just shit management lol |
| 11:15.02 | rpifan | yea tandy leather |
| 11:15.54 | Zombie | Does anyone here have experience with Voicemail delivery from Asterisk to DoveCot? |
| 11:16.09 | Zombie | I know this is kicking over a hornet's nest |
| 11:17.35 | sibiria | mailing the whole recording or just a notification? |
| 11:17.56 | Zombie | The Recording. As a Wave, or an Ogg. |
| 11:18.15 | sibiria | what prevents you from just executing an *sh script to get the job done? |
| 11:18.29 | sibiria | to encode your recording and then slinging it further with mail(1) |
| 11:18.54 | sibiria | dovecot is not an MTA btw. |
| 11:18.56 | Zombie | I'd prefer not to have it transmitted via SMTP. |
| 11:19.21 | Zombie | In the same system, I also have DoveCot running, and use Fetchmail, and maildrop to deliver E-mail from remote IMAP Mailboxes to a local one. |
| 11:21.29 | Zombie | I'd like for some mechanism to take place to just pull the file from the Asterisk spooler, and deposit it in Dovecot. |
| 11:22.00 | sibiria | so an *sh script that encodes the recorded file and drops it off locally, as already suggested |
| 11:22.14 | Zombie | nods. |
| 11:23.41 | sibiria | best get started then |
| 11:24.48 | Zombie | I'm not sure how to get started. |
| 11:24.52 | sibiria | dovecot can do local mail, so mail(1) should Just Work(tm) |
| 11:25.16 | Zombie | I'm not that good at Bash scripting. |
| 11:34.21 | sibiria | if you're working with asterisk and have set-up dovecot then surely you have some experience working on the terminal |
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| 11:38.42 | Zombie | Yes, I do. |
| 11:45.03 | sibiria | what part about doing the same in an *sh script is it you can't get to work? |
| 11:55.22 | Zombie | Well, I just tried it to send a local E-mail using the Mail command/ |
| 11:57.44 | Zombie | maildrop does however work. |
| 11:59.06 | Zombie | I suspect I know why, is mail restricted to mbox format? |
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| 12:01.16 | sibiria | that depends on your version of mail(1). on most systems it can deliver mail using local(8) or mail.local(8) |
| 12:02.22 | Zombie | I think mail is looking in a different Spooler than DoveCot. |
| 12:03.17 | sibiria | then use maildrop and feed it your rendered mail |
| 12:04.00 | sibiria | though i'd think maildrop or maybe even dovecot would install a suitable local mailer so you can easily attach files and such, instead of having to render e-mail submissions manually |
| 12:06.12 | sibiria | or courier or whatever maildrop is actually called |
| 12:13.40 | Zombie | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NicolasBernaerts/debian-scripts/master/asterisk/sendmailmp3 |
| 12:13.44 | Zombie | Hm |
| 12:15.54 | sibiria | yeah that's what you should ideally have to avoid |
| 12:16.43 | sibiria | better to let mail/mailx or mutt do that stuff |
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| 12:36.29 | Zombie | but sibiria Do you want to assist me? |
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| 13:10.27 | sibiria | i can offer suggestions if you want, but first step would be to get local mail delivery to work, which i don't think i can help much |
| 13:10.33 | sibiria | help with much* |
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| 14:45.17 | drmessano | 06:42:31 <TandyUK> MS Teams is much the same, you can buy expensive SBC's or use SS7 switches to interact, but nothing "sensible" <-- Not true. You pay to use their SIP proxy, and they have detailed docs on how to make your SIP proxy/SBC/switch work with it. |
| 14:45.44 | drmessano | Asterisk may even work out of the box with it. I haven't drilled through the docs |
| 14:45.50 | Samot | No. |
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| 14:46.10 | Samot | The issue becomes the headers that need to be touched and you can't touch them in Asterisk |
| 14:46.19 | drmessano | They don't support SS7 |
| 14:46.53 | drmessano | Ok, so expensive FreeSWITCH or Kamalililio then |
| 14:46.54 | Samot | However, the need for an "expensive" SBC isn't really true. I was unaware they were offering a Proxy service directly at MS Teams. |
| 14:47.00 | drmessano | https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/direct-routing-protocols-sip |
| 14:47.31 | drmessano | I hate when people just invent answers |
| 14:49.59 | drmessano | This is why I hate the turtle crew |
| 14:50.07 | Samot | Oh speaking of that. |
| 14:50.17 | Samot | Ward is officially pushing the "Mobile Integration" |
| 14:50.28 | drmessano | They've been peddling shit answers like that for years, and turn them into blog posts and projects |
| 14:51.11 | drmessano | "MS Teams requires fancy SS7 or a billion dollar SBC. We're using GNU OpenTeams with Orgasmatron PBX, which not nearly the same thing, but open" |
| 14:51.14 | Samot | So now all those guys have to do is convince a business and its users (in most cases) to dump their mobile provider and bring all their phones to them. |
| 14:51.26 | Samot | "Sure, you keep you phones. You just need to get them unlocked" |
| 14:52.49 | Samot | I don't know what business or person is going to dump their contracted service to move to a Pre-Paid style model for their cell phones. |
| 14:53.15 | Samot | All so they can be directly on the PBX. |
| 14:53.57 | drmessano | Dude is like a really bad cult leader, he'll get some followers |
| 14:54.05 | drmessano | Enough to buy a new cover for his boat |
| 14:54.28 | Samot | Base cost: $25 for a SIM card with unlimited calling/text and 2GB of data. |
| 14:54.31 | Samot | 2GB. |
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| 14:54.49 | drmessano | Oh that's easy |
| 14:55.57 | drmessano | "2GB doesn't seem like a lot of data, but if you're trusting your apps to LTE provider networks, and not using Wifi everywhere it's available, you're opening yourself up to massive security concerns" |
| 14:56.13 | drmessano | and the turtle crew nods, and stops using their LTE data as much |
| 14:56.46 | Samot | Ward's logic is it for guys like you. |
| 14:56.57 | Samot | You spend a lot of your time on the road. |
| 14:58.00 | Samot | So that 2GB does become important because on the road you're not on wifi. |
| 14:58.40 | Samot | HVAC techs is an actual use case he points out. |
| 14:58.51 | Samot | Now, you've had to deal with 10000 page manuals |
| 14:59.23 | Samot | How long will 2GB allow a HVAC tech to pull manuals, schematics for crap they need to work on in the field? |
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| 15:00.37 | drmessano | I wonder if he gets 15% on the overages too |
| 15:01.22 | Samot | My wife has a plan with 1GB of data. They don't allow personal phones on the wifi at work. |
| 15:01.50 | Samot | She was out of data last week just from normal web surfing and a few whatsapp calls |
| 15:03.25 | Samot | I mean the data usage is low but notifications cost usage. |
| 15:03.58 | Samot | And the amount of apps people run with notifications is high these days. |
| 15:04.26 | drmessano | Wait until iOS 14 hits with the improved widget support |
| 15:04.40 | drmessano | All those apps pulling data constantly to background refresh |
| 15:04.46 | Samot | Well the entire time Ward's stance has been the same ole BS. |
| 15:04.56 | Samot | "Softphones are crap. We can never get them to work right" |
| 15:04.59 | Samot | No duh. |
| 15:05.06 | sibiria | low traffic mode solves all of that, but then again if people are unaware of what push notifications are then they're likely not gonna be aware of that one setting either |
| 15:05.10 | Samot | You use free softphones that are crap |
| 15:05.22 | Samot | I pay $1.84/month per user for Bria Enterprise. |
| 15:05.31 | Samot | 98% of the users are iOS users |
| 15:05.34 | Samot | ZERO issues. |
| 15:06.14 | Samot | I was in the middle of Erie-O Bay on Sunday and my Bria was getting calls just fine while I was out in the water. |
| 15:34.44 | theGoat | so i am running asterisk 17.0, and have a cisco 8851 connected to it via SIP. when i loose connectivity to asterisk, the phone goes into SRST and registers with my cisco 2951 voice gateway, but when asterisk comes back, my phone won't fail back to asterisk, all i see is: |
| 15:34.47 | theGoat | [Jun 23 11:19:57] ERROR[6185]: tcptls.c:594 ast_tcptls_client_start: Unable to connect SIP socket to 192.168.110.25:51073: Connection refused |
| 15:34.47 | theGoat | [Jun 23 11:20:01] ERROR[2035]: iostream.c:583 ast_iostream_close: close() failed: Bad file descriptor |
| 15:36.11 | drmessano | What is the failover mechanism? |
| 15:39.18 | theGoat | honestly not quite sure. trying to determine that now |
| 15:44.27 | Samot | SRST is the mechanism. |
| 15:44.52 | Samot | It's there to determine if the main UC is up and if not use the secondary UC |
| 15:45.05 | Samot | Based on what I've seen this is a licensed feature of the UCM |
| 15:45.19 | Samot | How this will work with Asterisk, not sure. |
| 15:46.20 | Samot | Also, based on my quick reads, this looks like something that has to be done on both sides. Phone and UCM(s) |
| 16:01.06 | drmessano | I would assume then it doesn't like the TLS session when it comes back |
| 16:01.34 | drmessano | I'm guessing if you power cycle the phone it goes back to Asterisk just fine? |
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| 16:30.20 | theGoat | drnessano: correct, if i bounce the phone, it re-registers with asterisk |
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| 17:16.09 | drmessano | I'm sure it's some "Wait, this isn't the same" TLS voodoo |
| 17:16.52 | drmessano | I would imagine 2 Cisco boxes would have the same cert and who knows what else to make the failover seamless |
| 17:17.38 | drmessano | If one server dies, it's a new session on the second. If it's a handoff back to the primary, maybe it doesn't start a new session |
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| 17:26.42 | igcewieling | Ouch. Referring to a movie âIt makes the bonking puppets in Team America: World Police look like straight-faced documentary.â |
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| 17:29.27 | Zombie | So, I think I finally figured out the mail delivery agent I need to use |
| 17:29.38 | Zombie | dovecot-lda |
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| 17:38.48 | Zombie | I see another issue now. |
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