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| 01:35.50 | Slade | huh. i hadnt paid much attention to this.. wonder if these are good for deploying pbx on. https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/ |
| 01:35.57 | Slade | as opposed to the regular ones |
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| 06:42.56 | drmessano | Slade: Not sure why you need that.. I have a $5 instance that runs Asterisk/FreePBX with almost zero CPU usage |
| 06:53.44 | Slade | drmessano, yea, a waste of $1 |
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| 07:12.20 | drmessano | The backups are also more expensive |
| 07:12.27 | drmessano | Really no point |
| 07:24.22 | wyoung | drmessano: what's expensive? |
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| 16:14.53 | Samot | 2:12:28 AM <drmessano> Really no point <- 100% correct since nothing would come of it anyways. I mean a year ago he wanted to take Vultr to the FTC for their weaselly marketing practices. |
| 16:15.44 | drmessano | hah |
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| 16:15.57 | Samot | Don't you remember that? |
| 16:16.03 | drmessano | Vaguely |
| 16:16.03 | Samot | You were involved in that conversation. |
| 16:16.08 | Samot | The sandboxes. |
| 16:16.20 | Samot | The limited little $2.50/month sandboxes. |
| 16:16.27 | drmessano | Oh YEAH |
| 16:17.52 | Samot | Like I said, it's been the same conversation for 18 months pretty much. |
| 16:18.02 | Samot | It's kinda like when Lanny wants to talk about Kamailio. |
| 16:18.21 | drmessano | IDk, all I ever see is him coming up with "plans" and never implementing them |
| 16:18.33 | drmessano | or arguing about hardware he never intends to buy |
| 16:18.40 | Samot | We pretty much have the exact conversation again and again because we have to start at the beginning instead of picking up where we left off. |
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| 16:19.19 | Samot | Well at least the interview candidate stories are amusing. |
| 16:19.48 | Samot | Here's the funny thing, for me, in all this. |
| 16:20.13 | Samot | I've got this project, 20 locations with over 800 phones... |
| 16:20.36 | Samot | They've been wanting to do failover with two geo-located systems for over 18 months. |
| 16:20.49 | Samot | There is one side that is 25% in place. |
| 16:21.20 | Samot | They still can't decide where the other location should be. How they would do all this because the 800 phones ARE NOT ON A PROVISIONING SYSTEM |
| 16:22.42 | Samot | During all this their system has failed twice in the last 18 months and last month their network was hit with cryptolock malware. |
| 16:22.57 | drmessano | Oh jeez |
| 16:23.41 | Samot | Dude, it took them 4 months to come up with a FQDN I could use for SRV routing. |
| 16:24.18 | Samot | And then they put the DNS on Network Solutions, one the places I had in the "DO NOT USE" list for DNS. |
| 16:24.23 | file | https://media.giphy.com/media/z9AUvhAEiXOqA/giphy.gif |
| 16:24.23 | sibiria | "the name had to be JUST perfect" |
| 16:25.14 | Samot | OH and they did have a backup PBX in place in the mean time... |
| 16:25.14 | drmessano | oh my god |
| 16:26.06 | Samot | But because they have shitty routers and it wasn't handling SIP right and routing users at the same location with the backup PBX to _that PBX_ instead of the primary....they shut it down. |
| 16:27.12 | Samot | So yeah... |
| 16:27.23 | Samot | That is what all this reminds me of. |
| 16:29.33 | joepublic | any compelling reason, in opinion of wise people here, to download v17 vs. use the v16 that's packaged in debian, for experimenting/learning how to asterisk? |
| 16:30.00 | Samot | No. |
| 16:30.23 | joepublic | Awesome. I ordered half a dozen sip phones for a test install. |
| 16:30.43 | Samot | Outside of that 17 will have some things 16 does not as it is a Stable release and meant for new feature implementation. |
| 16:31.20 | Samot | It only has a 1 year life cycle as well. 16 is LTS and has a longer life cycle. |
| 16:31.30 | joepublic | Okay. I suppose literally any version of asterisk will have the features I need, and LTS is an attractive thing. |
| 16:31.57 | Samot | Currently there is 13 LTS, 16 LTS and 17 Standard |
| 16:32.14 | Samot | 13 is in it's last year. |
| 16:32.20 | Samot | its* |
| 16:32.51 | joepublic | 16 it is. I managed a field PBX when I was in the army (30 years ago) and am looking forward to finding out what's different/the same |
| 16:33.15 | Samot | Well unless is was Asterisk based.... |
| 16:33.33 | Samot | Because Asterisk is not a PBX, it's a toolkit. It can be used as a PBX. |
| 16:34.09 | joepublic | of course not, but the equipment was a computer that took cards that allowed provisioning of lines/trunks. |
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| 16:37.23 | joepublic | it was actually one of these antiques: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/sb-3614.htm |
| 16:38.04 | joepublic | I just want to use asterisk to make a pbx. What are some other use cases? |
| 16:38.44 | sibiria | it can be used as a message relay server |
| 16:38.59 | sibiria | SIP (and Asterisk) are highly versatile things |
| 16:39.37 | sibiria | can be used as a streaming mp3 jukebox :P |
| 16:40.22 | joepublic | that's a feature I didn't have then, as containerized files containing digital audio hadn't really developed very far. |
| 16:40.41 | joepublic | our digital phones were handsets with built in modems that went over analog lines. |
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| 17:56.49 | cusco | hi.. is it possible to observe in asterisk when a AMI user performs a command? |
| 17:57.59 | [TK]D-Fender | if you enabled AMI debug |
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| 19:27.56 | brian1001 | Hello everyone, i'm hoping to find a nice (open source) webbased dashboard of the phones who are busy (BLF) does someone knows a good one maybe? |
| 19:39.39 | Samot | FOP2 |
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| 19:43.08 | brian1001 | thank you! |
| 19:44.38 | Samot | Well it monitors the state of the endpoint/peer |
| 19:45.24 | Samot | So it will show when they are on a call, a call in ring in or being placed out, if they are offline or if they are inuse or BUSY |
| 19:48.13 | brian1001 | perfect |
| 19:48.16 | brian1001 | exactly what i tried to find |
| 19:48.57 | Samot | And it will let you manage calls. |
| 19:49.15 | Samot | Transfer them, pick them up, hang up, etc. |
| 19:49.39 | Samot | You can even monitor Parking Lots or Queues... |
| 20:00.02 | brian1001 | you rock |
| 20:00.17 | Samot | I know. |
| 20:01.21 | joepublic | Curious, what do FXO and FAX stand for? |
| 20:01.44 | Samot | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXzWlPL_TKw |
| 20:02.07 | joepublic | Thank you. |
| 20:02.29 | joepublic | That's currently on my car playlist :) |
| 20:02.30 | Samot | FXO = the jack in the back of a regular phone. |
| 20:02.38 | Samot | FXS = the jack in the wall you plug into |
| 20:03.03 | joepublic | presumably the letters came from somewhere, perhaps initials for something? |
| 20:03.21 | igcewieling | Foreign eXchange Office |
| 20:03.44 | joepublic | okay, what I have been calling DCO dial central office. |
| 20:03.53 | igcewieling | and (I think) Foreign eXchange Station, but you could have googled it. |
| 20:04.31 | joepublic | a duckduckgo came up with many pages of cards providing, and articles talking about the terms, didn't run across a "what the heck is this" but maybe my ddg-foo is weak. |
| 20:06.17 | joepublic | ah, including the phrase "what the heck are" did in fact provide good answers. Thanks. (https://www.3cx.com/PBX/FXS-FXO/) |
| 20:07.49 | Samot | igcewieling: Close, Subscriber |
| 20:08.05 | Samot | Because that's what the end users are designated as. |
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| 20:09.18 | Samot | Just like NXX-NXX-XXXX is LATA-Rate Center-Subscriber |
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| 20:23.00 | igcewieling | exchange. rate centers can contain many exchanges. |
| 20:26.10 | kessius | ircs, I use linux mint-ubuntu which url or link or site can i follow for install asterisk compiler+ari |
| 20:30.39 | kessius | people ircs, I use linux mint-ubuntu which url or link or site can i follow for install asterisk step by step |
| 20:40.31 | Samot | OK. |
| 20:40.34 | Samot | Fair enough. |
| 20:46.10 | kessius | ircs asterisk, which site for me to install asterisk |
| 20:53.10 | Samot | kessius: Please stop that. |
| 20:53.19 | Samot | There is no need to make the same request three times in 10 minutes. |
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| 21:13.21 | kessius | people ircs, I use linux mint-ubuntu which url or link or site can i follow for install asterisk step by step |
| 21:13.49 | joepublic | i am pretty sure it's apt install asterisk |
| 21:14.44 | joepublic | More details online, https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Installing+Asterisk |
| 21:16.03 | kessius | joepublic , I want compiled type ./configure make make menu select make install.... |
| 21:16.20 | joepublic | That's documented at the same url. |
| 21:25.20 | kessius | joepublic, ok |
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| 22:34.16 | Penguin | Is there any good reason that every possible way to create a certificate to use with tls won't work with asterisk 13 or 16? I've tried using openssl to make it and even tried the ast_tls_cert script that comes with both 13 and 16. Every way I try, there is an error loading the certificate with chan_sip loads. |
| 22:37.43 | Penguin | If I copy my cert and key from a different asterisk 13 system, it will load without any error and it will listen on 5061 like it should, but the cli floods with internal ssl error messages afterward. |
| 22:43.03 | Penguin | I've tried the ast_tls_cert script with -C myipaddr and without. Doesn't make any difference. |
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