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| 02:09.03 | rue_mohr | coppers only good for 300' |
| 02:09.18 | rue_mohr | fibers fine, not sure on the range for T1 |
| 02:13.30 | Samot | What? |
| 02:13.42 | Samot | T1 is copper, DSL is copper. |
| 02:13.56 | Samot | You can do DSL up to 6,000'. |
| 02:15.18 | Samot | I mean it's literally call the "last mile" for a reason. |
| 02:23.39 | Reinhilde | Samot: can either modulation run over a 2 inch thick steel pipe? |
| 02:24.38 | Samot | I'm not sure I understand the question. |
| 02:24.43 | Samot | You mean laying over it? |
| 02:24.47 | Samot | Running through it? |
| 02:24.52 | Samot | Along side it? |
| 02:26.06 | Samot | The 300' rule is for Ethernet. for 10/100/1000 speeds. |
| 02:26.13 | Samot | T1's are not that. |
| 02:26.26 | Samot | 1.5Mbps |
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| 02:33.54 | Reinhilde | Samot: So let's say I have 250' of steel 2in by 4in bars. If I have enough of them isolated from each other, can I run T1 or DSL over them, using them as the wires in a phone wire? |
| 02:34.58 | Samot | No, copper. |
| 02:36.12 | Reinhilde | Is there something about copper that makes it more suitable than steel? |
| 02:37.59 | Samot | It handles voltage and data better. |
| 02:39.28 | Reinhilde | That's very nebulous. |
| 02:39.40 | Samot | It's highly conductive. |
| 02:39.46 | Samot | It can power things over it. |
| 02:39.59 | Samot | Like analog phones etc. |
| 02:40.17 | Samot | It handles transmission of data over it better. |
| 02:41.39 | Reinhilde | I know that thicker is not always better, but in this case, if I didn't have copper and only had steel, would making the wire thicker effectively help workaround the deficiency? |
| 02:41.51 | Samot | Steel is not as conductive. |
| 02:42.08 | Samot | It wouldn't be able to handle what is needed. |
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| 04:28.54 | drmessano | The conductance of steel is so low, that none of the signal would pass from one end to the other |
| 04:29.11 | drmessano | It would just be very long resistor |
| 04:30.44 | Samot | ^ That |
| 04:31.06 | Reinhilde | I have the french guy on ignore |
| 04:31.22 | Samot | What french guy? |
| 04:32.01 | Reinhilde | whoever you up-arrowed, truth be told he's probably not french |
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| 04:38.31 | rue_mohr | really long resistors are also known for their inductance |
| 04:38.55 | rue_mohr | if its me, I'm not french |
| 04:39.13 | rue_mohr | gad I dispise french, but whatever |
| 04:40.04 | drmessano | Really long conductors show both inductive reactance and capacitive reactance |
| 04:40.21 | rue_mohr | yes |
| 04:40.24 | drmessano | But in the context of the question, no, you couldn't use a long piece of steel to pass data |
| 04:40.42 | drmessano | At least not at the levels provided by your typical provider |
| 04:40.44 | rue_mohr | indeed, I'm glad I didn't ask that |
| 04:43.57 | rue_mohr | Obviously, carbon is the best thing to use |
| 04:44.01 | rue_mohr | (graphine) |
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| 16:00.14 | overyander | when using postgres odbc how/where do you specify the schema where asterisk should find its tables? |
| 16:14.48 | igcewieling | I only know about mysql odbc, sorry. |
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| 21:49.32 | overyander | is it recommended to use res_pgsql or res_odbc ? |
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| 22:08.12 | overyander | i'm trying to connect asterisk to a postgres sql server. is it recommended to use res_pgsql or odbc? |
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| 22:25.02 | kharwell | overyander: I'd say res_odbc. It's core supported, whereas the other is extended |
| 22:25.28 | kharwell | also here is the configuration I use for odbc and postgres: https://pastebin.com/va1kN50y |
| 22:26.03 | overyander | thanks |
| 22:26.10 | overyander | that doesn't have ssl options though |
| 22:27.07 | overyander | ssl is what i'm having a problem with at the moment |
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