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00:14.51[TK]D-FenderDepends what you mean
00:16.05bbtincoming, did to ext routing
00:16.20[TK]D-FenderThose terms are still rather vague
00:16.25[TK]D-Fender"routing" isn't a thing.
00:16.28bbtoutgoing, dialplans to make use of specific trunks
00:16.35[TK]D-Fenderdialplan = extensions.conf
00:16.41[TK]D-Fenderwhich is all call processing
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01:44.06bbttrying to figure out how to make a did ring an ext. i dont see the syntax in extensions.conf ?
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02:09.36[TK]D-FenderIt's your job to make whatever you want it to do
02:16.20bbtim confused, coming from a pretty gui (freepbx) to trying to work this out in cli
02:16.43bbtexamples arent forcoming with google fu
02:16.50bbttrunk to ext, that is.
02:17.43[TK]D-FenderThat's because dialplan is functionally a programming language.  You don't get samples for writing exactly the thing you want, because what you want it 100% up to you.  There is no such thing as "defaults' or "standard" really.
02:18.46[TK]D-FenderTrunk & ext mean nothing here.  There is only "call coming in from device D landing in context X, asking for extension Y with callerid of Z"
02:18.54[TK]D-Fenderyou need to learn the basics
02:18.56[TK]D-Fender~book
02:18.56infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
02:18.58[TK]D-Fender^
02:19.12[TK]D-FenderLearning the dialplan is 90% of Asterisk
02:19.45[TK]D-FenderEvery step it takes, every kind of thing you let any device call in dialing is up to you
02:21.29bbtok thanks
02:24.58[TK]D-Fenderbbt> trunk to ext, that is. <- calls from a provider should match a device definition that includes the context to process the call in.  When it comes in they are sending something as what they are calling (typically a DID you pay them for in the case of ITSP's).  You make extens' in there to match what was sent in and the take whatever steps you want.
02:26.06[TK]D-Fender"Trunk" in FreePBX terms is really only the thing that defines the communications with the other end.  It doesn't define when you'll want another call to use it to go out, nor does it define what to do when they send you a call.
02:42.17bbtthing is i know what the trunk is, where i want it to go, what extension i need it to ring, etc. just so trvivial to do with freepbx.. this is turning into a saga via cli
02:45.42bbtgot nothing against learning it, just feel it would be wasteful as it isnt a profession i want to take up :)
02:46.42[TK]D-FenderIt's not my profession even though I use a FreePBX system at my day-job
02:47.05[TK]D-FenderIf you're taking on doing this yourself go learn your basics
02:48.40bbtwhat about this.. the box its replacing has asterisk14+freepbx everything is setup, would i be able to migrate the extension stuff to this asterisk 13?
02:49.21[TK]D-FenderThere is no back & forth
02:49.32[TK]D-FenderFreePBX generates a shit-ton of interdependent junk
02:49.38[TK]D-FenderAnd you're not learning anything at that point
02:50.02[TK]D-FenderYou don't start with a fully-built LEGO castle to try to build something else
02:50.09[TK]D-Fenderand you still need to understand the basics
02:50.18[TK]D-FenderYou're in the dilaplan.  welcome to programming
02:50.22[TK]D-Fenderdialplan*
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02:50.32[TK]D-Fenderit's hardly complicated
02:50.48[TK]D-FenderGo learn how pattern matching works and some basic dialplan apps.
02:51.01[TK]D-FenderLearn what functions are for.  Then pick what you need and make it do what you want
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05:22.02FarhaadNhi everyone, i have issue with asterisk cli, when i enter some command suck az "core show channesl" or somthing else, after that randomly cli show wrong character when i typing , such az "\U+515B\U+5141" ...
05:22.05FarhaadNalso in cli show error : utils.c:1446 ast_careful_fwrite: fwrite() returned error:
05:22.08FarhaadNcan anyone help me?
05:22.39[TK]D-FenderYou keep showing that same pbit over and over
05:22.48[TK]D-Fenderdon't just paste those individual lines.  Show what is AROUND them
05:23.01[TK]D-FenderAnd provide proper information on your system
05:23.08[TK]D-FenderYou've told us nothing for days on this
05:23.54Laptop01Hello, my auto assistant is working well for the most part. But occasionally, when a human is talking, the auto assistant won't pick up what they're saying. Which of these AMD values would I need to adjust to fix this? https://pastebin.com/UdQ0aDEz Thank you for your help
05:24.05FarhaadN[TK]D-Fender: what information do you need?
05:24.46[TK]D-FenderLaptop01, "core show application amd"
05:25.14[TK]D-FenderLaptop01, It already shows you what test it failed so adjust accordingly
05:28.23FarhaadN[TK]D-Fender: i exacly told you what happend for me, and i dont know what must i tell
05:28.46Laptop01Thanks. Any suggestions on what value I should change? It's very strange, 90% of the time it will work perfectly. The 10% of the time it doesn't work, the human will have to repeat themselves so that it will pick it up. Very strange.
05:28.46[TK]D-Fenderthe full output all around those messages .
05:29.04[TK]D-FenderYou also haven't bothered to tell us what version you're running, or anything else about your operating environment
05:30.50FarhaadN[TK]D-Fender: OS: VERSION="9 (stretch)" , asterisk version: 11.25.3
05:31.01FarhaadNand error around those, is nothing
05:31.08FarhaadNAzarngMehr*CLI> core show channesl
05:31.08FarhaadNNo such command 'core show channesl' (type 'core show help core show channesl' for other possible commands)
05:31.08FarhaadNAzarngMehr*CLI> \U+A15B\U+A141\U+A173
05:31.18[TK]D-FenderYour version isn't supported
05:32.19FarhaadNok
05:32.30[TK]D-FenderAnd those are very obviously unicode charaters
05:32.38[TK]D-Fendercharactors
05:33.43[TK]D-Fenderhttp://www.mkgmap.org.uk/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=mkgmap&path=%2Fu%2Fmaxc%2Fmain%2Fresources%2Fchars%2Fascii%2Frowa1.trans
05:35.00FarhaadNwhen i typing these charactors show on cli randomly
05:35.19FarhaadNwith every character i click
05:35.37FarhaadNone of those unicode charactors show up
05:35.42[TK]D-FenderGo check your terminal settings
05:38.09FarhaadNIf the problem was from the settings, should not these be displayed every time?
05:38.24[TK]D-FenderLaptop01, There is nothing strange.  It tells you what test it didn't pass.  You're not going to get 100%
05:38.46[TK]D-Fendertweak the one it tripped on.  Retest.  keep testing.
05:39.29FarhaadNhttps://pastebin.com/P2ryA0hB
05:39.51FarhaadNcan you please check this link , every time i enter correct command these show up
05:41.24[TK]D-FenderGo upgrade and see if they continue
05:42.06FarhaadNupdate to 11 last version? or 13?
05:42.19[TK]D-Fenderhttps://superuser.com/questions/1101668/unicode-characters-suddenly-appearing-in-asterisk-cli-ssh-console
05:42.32[TK]D-FenderThis is already documented
05:42.57[TK]D-FenderGOOGLE <- your friend
05:43.21Laptop01Ok, I ran that command and I'm not aware of any "test" but I'll keep researching. Thanks.
05:43.32[TK]D-FenderFarhaadN> update to 11 last version? or 13? <- unless there's a special reason you can't go right to 16 then that is where you should be going
05:43.45[TK]D-FenderLaptop01, test = USE IT
05:44.50FarhaadN[TK]D-Fender: i try it , thank you again
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10:07.52ZhadnostI've got a strange problem, When someone makes an outgoing call, asterisk doesn't seem to be aware that the call is answered and will automatically cut off after the clients ring timeout. (has anyone seen this before?)
10:08.07ZhadnostSIP clients, IAX termination.
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10:08.25Zhadnostin cdr the calldisposition is NOANSWER
10:09.00Zhadnost(still using chan_sip).
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11:06.11filewhat is the console output of a call?
11:11.57ZhadnostTo be honest, I can't remember (It's been happening for a long time, I've been gertting round it by setting long timeouts)
11:12.06Zhadnost1 mo.
11:13.12Zhadnostunfortunately there was nothing logged (I don't have debug logging on atm).
11:13.38filethen I can do nothing except say that it's up to the remote side to say that it is answered, if it doesn't... then Asterisk won't know
11:14.09ZhadnostSo I should file a ticket with the outgoing ITSP?
11:14.25fileit's most likely them, yes
11:14.32ZhadnostThanks.
11:15.46ZhadnostLooking throuh cdr, it's not only happening on a single provider
11:16.13Zhadnostor even a single channel driver (IAX and DAHDI {FXO})
11:16.43filewithout console output showing the problem and ideally protocol level in the case of IAX, then we can only give guesses
11:17.59ZhadnostHow do I know what the protocol level is?
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11:18.16file"iax2 set debug on" spits it into the console
11:19.33Zhadnostwell, fwiw I'm currently on a call to Sage Support, so there's a fair chance that I'll hit the 1hour timeout before anyone answers the call and I'll get a debug then
11:20.26fileit would have needed to be seen from start to end
11:20.29filenot from in the middle
11:22.30ZhadnostAh, well, when I'm off the phone, I'll set a short timeout on this phone and get a log then. Thanks for your help.
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16:29.19zx81Hey, trying to use ARI with NodeJS - this doesn't work:
16:29.20zx81play(channel, 'sound:http://www.nch.com.au/acm/8k16bitpcm.wav');
16:29.20zx81should it?
16:29.21zx81https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/ARI+and+Channels%3A+Simple+Media+Manipulation says:
16:29.23zx81A sound file located on the Asterisk system. You can use the /sounds resource to query for available sounds on the system. You can also use specify a media file which is consumed via HTTP (e.g sound:http://foo.com/sound.wav)
16:29.26zx81But I get
16:29.27zx81[2019-02-18 11:18:29] WARNING[23860][C-0002f9e3]: file.c:774 ast_openstream_full: File http://www.nch.com.au/acm/8k16bitpcm.wav does not exist in any format
16:37.02MLCit is looking for a file on the asterisk server, not on the network
16:39.35Samotzx81: The file doesn't exist at that location.
16:39.55SamotI click on your like for that wav file and it just redirects me to the main page of the site.
16:40.16SamotAre you sure the site is allowing that file to be pulled directly? Have you checked what the logs say where the file exists?
16:41.53Samot11:37:03 AM <MLC> it is looking for a file on the asterisk server, not on the network <-- with v14+ Asterisk Playback() now supports loading sound files via HTTP
16:42.11MLCyeah, I put my fingers in front of my brain again
16:42.16SamotAs does Background(), I believe now.
16:42.46zx81ok so I need to upgrade to 14
16:42.49zx81cool thanks
16:42.53SamotSo when I click on the link in their ARI code, it doesn't load that wav file.
16:44.00zx81I'm on Asterisk 13
16:44.10SamotWell that's a problem.
16:44.16zx81yep :-)
16:44.34SamotSo there are two.
16:44.43[TK]D-Fenderno 14.  No 15.  Move right along to 16
16:44.44Samot1) You don't have the right version to support what you are trying to do.
16:45.13Samot2) The file you are attempting to use doesn't seem to allow direct HTTP connections as the site redirects attempts to load it.
16:45.19SamotSo Asterisk will have the same issue.
16:45.24SamotSince it's making an HTTP request.
16:45.25zx81http://www.nch.com.au/acm/8k16bitpcm.wav
16:45.29zx81I just clicked it
16:45.34zx81and it plays in my browser
16:45.36zx81(chrome)
16:45.37SamotSigh
16:45.50Samot11:29:21 AM <zx81> play(channel, 'sound:http://www.nch.com.au/acm/8k16bitpcm.wav'); <-- Note the difference.
16:46.05SamotYes, the HTTPS link lets me load it.
16:46.15SamotThe HTTP link you provided in your code, doesn't.
16:46.34SamotSo my statement still stands.
16:46.38zx81ah
16:46.45zx81it converts to https in the browser
16:46.52zx81cool ty
16:48.06zx81will try 16
16:57.53zx81cool that worked
16:57.59zx81actually without changing to https too
16:58.07zx81ah no
16:58.10zx81I changed the code
16:58.11zx81lol
16:58.14zx81without me knowing
16:58.17zx81:-)
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17:58.38Janoshey there, question, is there any way to know which asterisk module export what symbol ?
17:59.09Janosi'm getting a warning: Error loading module 'chan_sip.so': undefined symbol: ast_websocket_write
17:59.20Janosand I was wondering about that
17:59.39JanosI guess it can be ignored but still wondering :P
18:00.07Janosthe main motivation was to actually try to strip down and noload all unused modules from my asterisk
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18:01.19Janoshence the need to actually be able to figure out which module provides what symbol so i can noload and if something fails figure out which module to load back in
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19:03.45igcewielingJanos: doing that is more trouble than it is worth.    Here is my modules.conf, it removes the most common stuff I don't use.   Use it as an example.
19:04.15igcewielinghttps://pastebin.com/U4M74P2F
19:31.42Janosigcewieling well that's pretty much what i wanted to achieve, remove everything I was not using
19:31.49Janosthanks
19:35.30MLCAnyone know if it is possible to log button presses from a Digium phone to somewhere?
19:38.56[TK]D-Fenderjust saying "button presses" isn't very specific.
19:40.22[TK]D-FenderYou could possibly set up a call where you set dynamic features on all DTMF keys and log them in your own scripting that way.  I think I saw (need to verify) DTMF as an AMI event notice (which might work), or run DTMF inband-only and try to decode it from recordings
19:41.12MLCAny button on the phone, not necessarily DTMF.  Problem is that some of our queue members are hitting "Ignore" when a call comes in, but I need to be able to prove it.
19:44.27[TK]D-FenderYou don't prove that from the phone
19:44.46[TK]D-FenderAnd no there is no complete button-pushing history on any kind of phone
19:45.04[TK]D-FenderWhat you can do is look at the ringing time to the agent in the queue log
19:45.19MLCI didn't think there would be. Grasping at straws.
19:45.24[TK]D-FenderIf it didn't reach the timeout, you know why
19:45.51[TK]D-FenderRINGNOANSWER <--------------
19:46.08[TK]D-Fenderat least in the case where "ignore" = reject"
19:46.15[TK]D-Fenderverify if your phone acts this way
19:46.22MLCDid that and it definitely shows that they full timeout is not being reached.  Am seeing the RINGNOANSWER.
19:46.24[TK]D-Fendercheck to see if you can force it to.
19:46.36MLCI verified this in my dev and ignore triggers that exact log entry
19:46.52[TK]D-Fenderyou get that regardless
19:46.58MLCI just need to be fairly certain that there could not be another cause
19:47.09[TK]D-Fenderit's a question of whether it actually SIP rejects the call or just silences it and rings until * gives up
19:47.33[TK]D-Fendergo verify what it's doing now, and if it just goes silent, then you're going to have to change that
19:48.02MLCdoesn't just go silent - it triggers the "did not answer" and goes to the next queue memmber
19:48.48[TK]D-Fenderthat happens either way
19:48.58[TK]D-Fenderdo you see it ACT on that press immediately?
19:49.03MLCyes
19:49.06[TK]D-Fenderit = asterisk
19:49.08[TK]D-Fendernot the phone
19:49.24[TK]D-Fenderif so then you'll see how long it rang for before the rejection
19:49.56MLCyes - in my dev I have both ends of the call, as soon as I "Ignore" button I get a response on the callers end. In my dev it is "no operators available" because I'm the only one in the queue.
19:50.37[TK]D-Fender"on the callers" end is nothing like what I asked
19:51.22[TK]D-FenderI asked if you are sitting in * CLI staring at the call processing scrolling by do you see the call to the phone terminate instantly or not.
19:51.41[TK]D-FenderGo check your queue log for the ringtime
19:51.44MLCSorry - I guess I misunderstood the question then.
19:51.52MLCYes - the call terminates immediately on the ignore button
19:52.01MLCI've wtached the log and verbose_log time stamps
19:52.12[TK]D-FenderThen go check your queue log
19:52.15[TK]D-Fenderit's all there
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19:54.05SamotMLC: If the call is ending once that button is pushed and it is being logged as RINGNOANSWER despite the timeout not being reached. That means the Ignore button is triggering a 408 message.
19:54.39SamotWhich is what reaching the timeout would do.
19:54.48MLCI assume that I could see that by turning on sip debug?
19:55.00[TK]D-FenderJust go look at your queue logs
19:55.14[TK]D-Fenderyou've confirmed it aborts.
19:55.20Samot2:46:23 PM <MLC> Did that and it definitely shows that they full timeout is not being reached.  Am seeing the RINGNOANSWER.
19:55.24[TK]D-FenderSo go get your logs and do what you have to do
19:55.41SamotI think his original question was pretty clear.
19:55.49Samot"How can I log key presses on the phone"
19:56.03[TK]D-FenderThe answer was "no"
19:56.07SamotOK.
19:56.09[TK]D-Fenderand that wasn't the reason for that question
19:56.16[TK]D-Fenderthat's jsut the means he thought he'd accomplish it
19:56.23MLCI've seen it in the queue logs. I'm getting RINGNOANSWER in the queue log.  I just have to be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the human is doing it by pressing the "ignore" button.
19:56.30Samot2:41:13 PM <MLC> Any button on the phone, not necessarily DTMF.  Problem is that some of our queue members are hitting "Ignore" when a call comes in, but I need to be able to prove it.
19:56.32Samot^^^^
19:56.35SamotSure it was.
19:56.56SamotAn agent can press Ignore and the call will be treated like a RINGNOANSWER.
19:57.02[TK]D-FenderI already said that
19:57.07SamotOK.
19:57.14[TK]D-Fenderand that it will get logged in a way he could tell
19:57.33[TK]D-FenderHe doesn't have to track the PHONE
19:57.48[TK]D-Fenderthe QUEUE does it already based on how the phone acts
19:57.59[TK]D-FenderSo he's got his answer
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