IRC log for #asterisk on 20180924

00:00.02[TK]D-Fenderset it for your peer
00:00.42[TK]D-FenderThis forces * upon matching them to ignore the remote RTP offer
00:10.19sicelothanks. moving it to peer works much better
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14:27.33ganapathihi
14:27.46ganapathianybody please clarify me
14:27.59fileask a question and someone may answer
14:28.21ganapathiam using SIP trunk for calling. in that time am unable to listen original network announcement.
14:31.05[TK]D-Fenderwhat time?
14:31.21[TK]D-FenderWhat announcement?
14:32.56ganapathiringing
14:33.06ganapathiuser busy.switched off.
14:33.15ganapathiwhile dialing manual call.
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14:33.57ganapathiinstead of original ringing look like some fake ringing sound playing to the user.
14:35.04ganapathiit's normal ?. or can able to cofigure tweaking to do solve this ?. or it may pbm with destination side ?
14:36.07scampbellCould the wrong country be set in the indications.conf
14:37.22scampbellganapathi: I'm fairly novice with asterisk still but take a look at your indications.conf file.
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14:38.15ganapathiif i use DAHDI then working fine.
14:38.20ganapathiPRI
14:38.48[TK]D-Fenderindications.conf is only used for inband signalling
14:38.59[TK]D-Fenderso depends whoat yuor call is doing
14:39.06[TK]D-FenderGo look at the calls
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14:41.15ganapathionly ringing tone is changed.
14:41.37ganapathibut i didn't get original ring which provided by PRI network of the customer
14:44.24[TK]D-FenderGo look at the call.
14:45.28[TK]D-Fendernormally you shouldn't get tone from them.  PRI is digital signalling so they normally jus pass the state and your own system typically forwards that if this was started from another inbound call that hasn't been answered.
14:45.49[TK]D-Fenderin that case its the phone you're listening on.  If it has been answered before dialing out, then it's indications.conf
14:49.40ganapathiSo it means you are saying, destination SIP user need to be answered to pass original voice data through SIP trunk ?
14:51.49ganapathicreated peer sip in asterisk and connected to another telephony. when call made from asterisk then it's dialing SIP trunk which is in another telephony, but sip trunk on next telephony need to answer before dialing out to get original voice ?.
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14:56.09[TK]D-Fenderyes
14:56.17[TK]D-FenderThere is no "original voice"
14:56.36[TK]D-Fenderand don't use the term "voice" unless you're referring to the called party actually answering and talking to you
14:57.24ganapathiok got it.
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15:03.43ganapathiis there any configuration for auto answer the sip user ?.
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15:11.00[TK]D-FenderThat's up to the endpoint
15:11.15ganapathiok.if i use asterisk as endpoint then ?
15:11.21ganapathiwhat would be
15:11.25[TK]D-FenderYou're not being clear
15:11.40[TK]D-Fenderrephrase your entire question and be complete about each piece involved
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15:12.54ganapathiSee. i have two telephony system. 1.asterisk. 2. yate.
15:13.22ganapathii use yate for ISDN PRI based calling.
15:13.51ganapathiin that created sip user for asterisk to use as sip trunk.
15:14.09ganapathiam passing call from asterisk to yate via SIP trunk .
15:14.36ganapathiit's returned me as fake ringing until customer answered.
15:15.22[TK]D-FenderDraw a clearer line.
15:15.35ganapathihere my question is to original ringing tone which is provided by ISDN customer
15:15.36[TK]D-FenderA > B > C > D
15:15.54[TK]D-FenderAnd the tech involved
15:16.09ganapathiAsterisk -> SIP trunk -> Yate -> ISDN PRI.
15:23.38[TK]D-FenderHow is Asterisk the start of this process?
15:23.53[TK]D-FenderAre you doing telemarketing call-outs from it?
15:24.52ganapathino. i dialing manually as a person using asterisk
15:25.44ganapathitelecaller -> SIP User -> asterisk -> SIP trunk -> Yate - > ISDN PRI -> Customer.
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15:26.45[TK]D-FenderSo far all of that is typically out-of-band.
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15:27.05[TK]D-Fenderso the telecaller's phone is the one generating ring-tones, etc
15:27.21[TK]D-Fenderunless one of those pieces in the the chain is forcing an answer.
15:27.38[TK]D-Fenderat which point I've already recommended looking at the call to verify this
15:28.34ganapathiok thanks. looking into autoanswer feature on asterisk and yate to do the same.
15:28.58[TK]D-FenderI don't think you're using that term correctly
15:29.29[TK]D-Fender* dialplan answers calls.  Endpoints * is talking to can answer calls.
15:29.36[TK]D-Fender* doesn't "auto-answer".
15:30.00[TK]D-FenderIt can ask that an endpoint it is calling to do so depending on what it supports.
15:30.40ganapathiin asterisk SIP user it's answered by dial plan
15:31.19[TK]D-FenderStill not clear
15:31.31ganapathiam looking into auto-answer on End point, means in YATE.
15:31.48ganapathibut at the same time. looking into reverse format.
15:31.56[TK]D-FenderThis is getting worse
15:32.01ganapathitelecaller -> SIP User -> yate -> SIP trunk -> asterisk - > ISDN PRI -> Customer.
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15:32.40[TK]D-Fendercaller starts the call.  Should asterisk answer THAT call and force ringing to them when calling out to Yate as the next step?
15:32.59ganapathiyes.
15:33.20[TK]D-FenderThen go do it there
15:33.26ganapathiYate dialing original customer call through ISDN PRI
15:33.47ganapathiok.
15:34.13[TK]D-FenderAt this point * will alsways consider the Telecaller leg to be answered in CDR and the phone will consdier it that way as well (answered/unanswered call lists affected, etc).
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15:35.41ganapathiConsider the position in reverse manner by this flow.  telecaller -> SIP User -> yate -> SIP trunk -> asterisk - > ISDN PRI -> Customer. here telecaller register to yate and dialing a call then it's ringing to asterisk trunk then asterisk dial out from asterisk side.
15:36.05ganapathihere in dial plan if i answer then would work rgt ?
15:37.20[TK]D-FenderThe closest side that answers between your Telecaller & PRI should be responsible for the tone.
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15:38.16ganapathiyes. i understand now by your response.
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16:42.41igcewielingSome days I wonder if I should move to NYC.
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17:57.39mahafyiHello, could you recommend a reliable ISDN PRI service provider in California. We would cross connect to a colocation in a data center.
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18:00.31igcewielingThat doesn't make much sense unless your COLO is in California
18:01.36mahafyiThe colo is in california, probably we will go to coresite
18:02.44igcewielingI suspect your best bet for a TDM PRI would be the local ILEC.    Be careful nobody sells you a "SIP PRI"
18:04.20mahafyithe data centers aren't putting us on the the providers. hence, i'd like to ask here for any reference. and right, we do not wand a pri thats connecting via bandwidth.com or something to pstn, lol. thanks for that advice.
18:19.28mahafyiok sorry to repeat, where can find a directory of the carriers who can provide the isdn pri in los angeles, california?
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20:11.15wranyone knows if datagram rdis ldap can transport frame relay?
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21:03.15siceloare there any expected adverse effects from setting `strictrtp=no` in rtp.conf? seems to be the only reliable way for me so far to get my SIP client working well with asterisk
21:05.32fileit means that no RTP source checking is done, so if someone sent RTP traffic to a port that was in use then they could inject media or get media sent to them (if symmetric RTP is in use)
21:07.46siceloi've got this sip client which, even though it's bind NAT, on the same LAN as asterisk, seems to talk to asterisk using the WAN IP
21:09.00siceloworked on it yesterday, and [TK]D-Fender helped me with some of the config, which improved it. but the issue was still there - intermittent, i may say. but with this setting, it really seems to work well all the time
21:09.05sicelo*shrug*
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21:10.13sicelohere's my sip.conf (the client uses 6001) - http://paste.debian.net/1044000/
21:14.42sicelothis is me making an echo test, http://paste.debian.net/1044002/
21:18.26siceloso i hear the sound late,(lines 194/195).
21:19.10siceloany better way to solve it (besides strictrtp=no)? maybe something to fix in my sip.conf .. not sure
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23:34.02jameswfWow somehow they managed to make voip-info even worse than before
23:34.32filejameswf: inconceivable
23:35.12jameswftake all the stale information in the world.... convert it to a static wordpress site then wrap it in a 3cx advertisement
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