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00:22.38*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.21.0 (2018/05/01), Standard: 15.4.0 (2018/05/01); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.6.0 (2017/01/27) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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02:34.07*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.21.0 (2018/05/01), Standard: 15.4.0 (2018/05/01); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.6.0 (2017/01/27) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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07:02.07*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.21.0 (2018/05/01), Standard: 15.4.0 (2018/05/01); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.6.0 (2017/01/27) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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09:17.20Guest9301Hi, is there a way not to playback DTMF tones to a incoming call? When the agent recieves a call and uses the dialpad for various reason, the loud and inhospitable dtmf tones is poisoning the customer.
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09:28.06Guest9301Maybe I can use inband on the agent sip configuration.
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09:45.30arminhi, i'm trying to send a FAX via t.38 between 2 asterisk instances. however, i get this behaviour here from one of the asterisks in place: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/TkzlHLmgYgqOYXRWHv052g/raw - anyone of you got a hint what i could look into further?
09:46.21Guest9301armin: the A part does not ACK the 200 OK, thus the re-transmissions
09:47.40arminGuest9301: ah, right, thanks.
09:48.02arminAnything further I could investigate? Sorry, VoIP noob here.
09:52.47Guest9301You should post the full sip transaction
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09:53.00Guest9301the content of each package
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10:02.40arminGuest9301: http://base.m2m.pm/bla3.pcap
10:02.51arminGuest9301: i had to strip anything other than SIP for obvious reasons.
10:02.59arminGuest9301: but the call flow remains.
10:03.26arminGuest9301: also since you're probably a helpful person: have you considered a permanent nickname and idling in here? :)
10:05.57Guest9301Where is this trace taken from ? A or B?
10:07.08Guest9301I'd prefer output from the asterisk CLI with verbosity an sip debug activated.
10:08.27Guest9301asterisk -rvvvv and sip set debug on
10:09.40Guest9301Pref on the originator, meaning A.
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11:32.19arminGuest9301: that's A, the originating side of the communication.
11:44.18arminGuest9301: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/XmlKubnfTD0V9zyLYC56tA
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11:49.01Guest9301ah ok, you have PJSIP.
11:50.29Guest9301I cannot say why the 200 OK is not ACKed. I think someone else must consult you in this, since my experience on PJSIP is vague at most.
11:57.54arminGuest9301: still, many thanks for your kind help!
11:58.02arminGuest9301: did you consider a permanent nick?
11:59.22Guest9301However I cannot see that T38 is negotiated in the SDP blocks
12:01.47SamotDoes the other side allow/support T.38?
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13:07.26arminSamot: good question.
13:07.45SamotAlso a rather important one.
13:07.52SamotT.38 needs to be on both sides.
13:07.58arminSamot: ty!!!
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13:23.45Guest9301Samot: so the pcap would indicate that T38 is not enabled on either side. Since the originator does not present T38 in the SDP?
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13:27.20SamotThe originator never starts T.38
13:27.39Guest9301Huh? INVITE -> (Hi I want to send a FAX)
13:27.42SamotThe other side has to say "Yup, I can do T.38" and a RE-Invite is done to update the SDP for T.38
13:27.48Guest9301Ah ok
13:27.58SamotT.38 is a codec encapsulation.
13:28.26SamotIt's done during the offer/accept SDP negotiation.
13:28.28Guest9301Fax shouldn't exist in 2018
13:28.42SamotFax isn't going anywhere any time soon.
13:28.48SamotPeople just need to accept that.
13:28.50SamotMove on.
13:29.00Guest9301You don't say. I've been waiting 15 years for the FAX to die. And I thought it was close 15 years ago
13:29.31SamotNot until the Medical and other industries like that agree on a more suitable solution.
13:29.39SamotThis is why T1's are not dying anytime soon.
13:30.19Guest9301We already started terminating ISDN on a national level. Operators are sending our termination notices with SIP replacements.
13:30.26Guest9301Been doing so for the last two years
13:30.55SamotSIP is not considered "Mission Cricitial"
13:31.03SamotSIP is not considered "Mission Critical"
13:31.07SamotT1's are.
13:31.16SamotT's have MTTRs
13:31.23SamotSLAs
13:31.35SamotSIP does not.
13:32.27SamotAs your phone provider (SIP) I cannot guarantee service SLA's or MTTRs because I can't control when your Cable Internet goes down or comes back up.
13:32.31SamotNot my stuff.
13:32.56SamotAs your phone provider (PRI/T1) I can because that is my stuff.
13:35.12SamotI have a doctors office that uses SIP/T.38 for their faxing but they can't use my digital fax platform.
13:35.38SamotBecause their faxes cannot be stored on a third party server that doesn't meet HIPAA compliance.
13:35.55SamotSo I have to have an ATA sit there connected to their fax system.
13:37.22SamotGmail/GoDaddy and most email services are not HIPAA compliant. And emailing a medical record that sits on those servers is bad.
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13:59.04sekilhates faxes
13:59.26armintoo
14:00.43SamotI hate PRIs and FXS based PBX systems. But I still gots to deal with them. It's the job.
14:02.56sekilPRIs I can handle..
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14:21.19SunnyBHi. I have an old PBX connected to * via PRI (chan_dahdi). When an extension on the PBX calls an outside number via *, the PBX it will hang up if the number does not answer in 30seconds. Is there a way for * to answer the call and play some music towards the PBX until the remote end answers instead ?
14:25.29[TK]D-FenderAnswered in #freepbx
14:26.20igcewielingFor some reason I thought Asterisk 13 fixed the issue with tel: URLs generate this error "sip/reqresp_parser.c:931 get_name_and_number: can not parse name and number from sip header.".   Must be a later version of Asterisk
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14:55.58mahafyihello. i would like to inquire about reliable VoIP service providers in USA, who have APIs for provisioning also and support re-sellers (i.e small VoIP services).
14:59.04mahafyianyone familiar with https://www.inteliquent.com ?
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17:46.18starfallI've been reading about the asterisk api and I was wondering if there was a way to create extensions through it.
17:46.59starfallOr is it more like I need to directly connect to the DB and create them myself?
17:49.38[TK]D-FenderDepends what you mean by "extensions"
17:52.52starfall[TK]D-Fender: I mean like sip users who can register and place calls to others
17:54.03[TK]D-Fenderextensions = extensions.conf = diaplan
17:54.17[TK]D-FenderFor SIP Peers you could DB thos.
17:54.29[TK]D-FenderAnd there is no "API"
17:54.37starfallI'm working on a app which, on new account creation, create an associated sip account on a Asterisk PBX server which would be used to make VoIP calls to others on that PBX.
17:55.17starfallSo I'm trying to figure out what would be the best way to do that
17:56.01starfallSome forum posts suggest that astrisk doesn't have an api call which could accomplish this, so I was curious if that is still the case.
17:56.14starfallexcuse me, not api
17:56.52starfallARI
17:58.40[TK]D-FenderARI isn't a tool for this
17:58.42[TK]D-FenderDB is DB
17:58.47[TK]D-Fenderjust shove records in there
18:01.07starfallFigured as much
18:03.43starfallI should prob just find how asterisk creates those accounts on the db and more or less do it that way, right?
18:07.48[TK]D-Fender* never creates them
18:07.56[TK]D-FenderYou always do
18:08.05[TK]D-Fender~book
18:08.05infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
18:08.07[TK]D-Fender^^^
18:11.25starfallI've been testing using freepbx, so I guess I kind of assumed that when I created an account using the GUI it was * handling putting that data into the DB
18:17.50[TK]D-FenderThis channel does not support FreePBX.
18:18.03[TK]D-Fender~#freepbx
18:18.09[TK]D-Fender~freepbx
18:18.09infobot[~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there
18:18.30[TK]D-FenderYou'll need to ask.  So every answer I have just given you ... does not apply at all.
18:18.37starfallI know, just explaining why what I said may have not made much sense
18:19.28starfalland the help has been very appreciated regardless!
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