IRC log for #asterisk on 20180508

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04:45.40FarhaadNHi everyone, is there any command for all phones to be re-registered?
04:52.52[TK]D-Fenderno
04:52.58[TK]D-FenderYou can't make a phone register
04:54.37FarhaadND-Fender: are you sure?
04:55.41FarhaadNbecouse cisco phones had this options
04:56.57FarhaadNi want when phone is register
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05:14.42drmessanoYou can't make an endpoint register
05:14.46drmessanoThere is no option for that
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05:29.57FarhaadNdrmessano: thank you
05:30.05FarhaadN[TK]D-Fender: thank you
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08:11.25pawieckiI have both: hint and BLF configured, but 'core show hints' shows zero watchers. Is that an error?
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09:15.47pawieckiwith sip debug I've found that my phone is sending incorrect SUBSCRIBE requests, different to what is setup in the BLF field.
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16:54.57beight0When I set up a user in voicemail.conf and do "voicemail show users" it shows NewMsg count. If I set up users in SQL it and run "voicemail show users for default" there is no NewMsg count. Is this correct behavior?
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17:07.21Toerkeiumhello guys
17:07.23Toerkeiumdoes anyone know how can I find who provides phone numbers starting with 5984 in my country?
17:16.45igcewielingwhat is your country?
17:20.19Toerkeiumargentina
17:21.03igcewielingSee http://www.itu.int/oth/T0202000009/en   it might help.
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17:26.15beight0To answer my own question, yes that is the correct behavior.
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18:32.35NivexI realize this is not asterisk specific, but hoping someone here can point me in the right general direction: I have a Polycom VVX 600 with latest firmware. If you send it a SIP text message, it hangs up 30 seconds later.
18:40.27SamotIt shouldn't do that.
18:41.39SamotA SIP MESSAGE is not handled the same was as a SIP INVITE. If the phone is ringing and hanging up. It thinks it has a call.
18:41.40igcewielingNivex: what EXACTLY is sent as the "text message"
18:41.42SamotNot a text.
18:42.04NivexSamot: well I know it _shouldn't_ do that, but it does.
18:42.12Nivexigcewieling: hang on lemme pull a trace
18:44.51Nivexhttps://p.6core.net/p/F7JOBS2rlVtedjemgJ2i9BIH
18:45.20Nivexsadly the debug doesn't have timestamps, but I watch the timer on the phone display and the screen
18:45.34Nivexyou can see the BYE originating from the Polycom though
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18:46.57SamotDoes the message appear on the polycom?
18:47.02Nivexso yes, it's Polycom's fault. An acceptable workaround would be to inhibit MESSAGE frames getting sent to the peer
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18:47.04NivexSamot: it does not
18:47.15SamotDo you have it enabled?
18:47.29SamotIt's not something that is enabled via the GUI.
18:47.34SamotIt's a config setting.
18:47.43SamotYou have to tell the device to accept SMS/Text
18:48.26SamotThe polycom is sending back 200 OK's to the MESSAGE requests.
18:48.38NivexProbably not then since I basically used the Simple Setup to load creds and that's about it
18:48.55igcewielingyou might consider using XMPP and the Polycom's IM features.
18:49.00SamotYeah, it's an option that has to be enabled.
18:49.09Samotto use IM/SMS
18:49.19NivexI don't even care if it doesn't display the message. I just want it to not hang up.
18:49.47igcewielingread up on PUSH messages in the Admin guide.
18:51.17Nivexok, will do
18:51.27Samotfeature.messaging.enabled="1"
18:51.37Samot^^ That's needs to be enabled on the polycom
18:52.08SamotAnd MessageSend() to send it from Asterisk works just fine.
18:52.28igcewielingI thought that controlled XMPP messaging
18:52.31Hazel-rahGood day everyone! i'm looking for a way to listen an active call in a browser; i kwon about Chanspy and Extenspy but i need an alternative. Thanks and cheers!
18:52.38SamotIt does both
18:52.47SamotSIP: or XMPP:
18:53.16SamotWell PJSIP for that driver as well
18:54.33SamotHazel-rah: There isn't an alternative.
18:54.42SamotThat's why they exist.
18:55.03igcewielingI found users didn't like texting on their Polycoms so we never deployed it
18:55.14SamotI don't use it for sending
18:55.18SamotI use it for alerts.
18:55.34SamotSo they are mainly just receiving.
18:55.36igcewielingHazel-rah: there are a number of applications which capture SIP/RTP calls
18:55.42igcewielingWhat do you tell your users?
18:55.54Samotme?
18:55.58igcewielingyeah.
18:56.17SamotWell I do it on both Polycom and Yealinks.
18:56.29SamotFor hotels and offices it's used for 911 alerts.
18:56.53SamotSome use it for different notices.
18:57.14Nivexalrighty! Got the feature enabled. It displayed the message. ... and then it still hung up 30 sec later :(
18:57.31igcewielingI'd use text messaging to a cellphone for that sort of thing, but I see your point.
18:57.35SamotNivex: Show the dialplan you are using.
18:57.59SamotIn most cases the alert stays until acknowledged.
18:58.11SamotSo for hotels and the front desk phones, it means someone can see it.
18:58.17NivexIt's being originated by an Allstar node at the far end of a SIP line. Lemme see if I can reproduce with a SendMessage.
18:58.24SamotBut as for having a "conversation" that way...no.
18:58.37SamotI have a GUI for that.
18:59.24igcewielingMy users are unusually.....dense.   They complain when they can't use the mailbox number for their voicemail password.
19:00.10SamotI have some users that don't use most features.
19:00.24SamotSome don't even use the visual voicemail in the GUI I setup..
19:00.38SamotBut then others, they are using that, the SMS and XMPP.
19:01.01igcewielingSometimes I wish I had your users.
19:01.13SamotI don't do resi
19:01.33SamotAnd i really don't do SOHO
19:01.39igcewielingNeither do I.
19:01.42SamotI have both but not directly.
19:01.49SamotI mainly do hosted voice.
19:01.55SamotNot PBXes, voice.
19:02.34igcewieling*nod*  at least half of my users are on their own PBX with analog or PRI  handoff from our on-site adtran.
19:02.59SamotFor the hotels it's "virtual PRIs" because that's what they understand..
19:03.07SamotAnd a hybrid of hosted/on site.
19:03.23SamotWhen I install the guest hotel PBX
19:03.35SamotSo all the "office/hotel" services are on the hosted platform
19:03.44SamotWhile the IP phones for the guests are on an internal PBX
19:04.06igcewieling*nod*  I really hate hosted.   Hosted users are too cheap to get a real PBX and more support too.
19:04.13SamotUhm.
19:04.27SamotI got people paying for 20 seats at $22+ per seat per month
19:04.39SamotThey are not "cheap"
19:04.40Nivexgrumble. Using MessageSend() sends the message and it doesn't hang up :/
19:04.56SamotNivex: Then the other system is sending it wrong.
19:05.44SamotI'm not sure an office that pays $600 a month for their voice services are going to say they are too cheap to get a PBX
19:05.48igcewielingAh.  Most of our hosted users could have had an on-site PBX, but decided to go with hosted, since it is a lot cheaper unless there are a lot of users.
19:05.52Nivexok. Is there some way to inhibit MESSAGE packets from a given place then?
19:06.04NivexI don't _need_ the messages, but I do want it to not hang up.
19:06.21SamotThen why are you sending the messages?
19:06.59SamotThe issue is how whoever is originating this message to you is doing it.
19:07.13NivexI understand that. I want to drop those messages on the floor before they get to the Polycom
19:07.14SamotIt's making the phone think there is a dialog or something happening.
19:07.51NivexAllstar (old asterisk 1.4 custom job) -> My main Asterisk (13) -> Polycom phone
19:08.09NivexAllstar is originating those messages
19:08.33SamotThen drop them at your Asterisk server.
19:08.35NivexInterestingly Linphone on my Android device doesn't have any problem with those messages
19:08.45Samot1) Your Asterisk trunk has to be setup to accept those messages
19:08.52Samot2) You have to process those messages.
19:09.02SamotOr at least you should be doing it that way
19:09.05NivexHow do I drop them at my Asterisk server. That is what I do not know how to do. Help me Obi-Wan Samot :)
19:09.09SamotDon't send them to the phone.
19:09.21SamotWell you have a trunk to this allstar node right?
19:09.45SamotIn that trunk set the accept_messages context (can't remember the exact name) and send those there to just drop them.
19:09.49SamotNever pass them through
19:10.50NivexDial(SIP/47201@allstar.nivex.lan)
19:10.56NivexThat's what I'm doing to call it right now
19:11.16SamotHow do you accept calls from them?
19:11.22NivexI don't.
19:11.25NivexI place that call.
19:11.31NivexIt sends the messages back along that channel.
19:11.34SamotThen how are you getting a SIP MESSAGe from them?
19:11.42SamotAhh.
19:11.49SamotSo they send that as a reply in a call?
19:11.55SamotSo a hangup should be here.
19:12.02Samotyou still have to hangup the call
19:12.19NivexThe hangup is being originated by the Polycom, which it is apparently doing because it saw something it didn't like.
19:12.31SamotRight which is no audio
19:12.40NivexThere's audio flowing during that time.
19:12.47igcewielingSam:  $14/month (our hosted price I think) .vs. a server, a telephony card for analog backup, polycom phones, and PoE ethernet switches, analog lines for backup.
19:13.05Samot$14 is way to cheap
19:13.12SamotI wouldn't even be considered.
19:13.23SamotNot in my market area.
19:13.56igcewielingI'm not 100% sure.   I don't talk to sales much after one of them admitted never reading my e-maiols.
19:14.16Samot$14 is like a "basic" seat.
19:14.23SamotAlmost no features.
19:15.21SamotI complete against the LECs (like you) and Telco's/VSPs.
19:15.55SamotAnd if you are too off from them, no one takes you seriously.
19:16.29igcewielingI'd LOVE to double our hosted seat price.  Might push more of them to a full PBX.
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19:16.51SamotDude, I can charge my resellers there $25.00 for unlimited basic phone service
19:17.12SamotBecause they can still mark it up pretty well and still be competing against the LECs.
19:17.46SamotGranted I still have to do thinks like support 7 digit dialing.
19:17.55SamotBecause it's still a thing there.
19:18.10igcewielingThe problem with that is you need a decent sales force.  Unfortunately, that's not what we have, though that could change after some upcoming management changes.
19:18.48igcewielingjust confirmed, $16/month
19:19.40SamotYeah, you can't provide LEC level services and try to compete with none LEC/Telco cloud providers.
19:20.06Samot$16/month as the standard is a wash.
19:21.11SamotBut I don't have an internal sales force.
19:21.15SamotWell there's a guy.
19:21.31SamotBut all of the core sales are outside sales guys
19:21.38SamotWho like that commission money
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19:43.49SepulturaHallo
19:44.00Sepulturais Asterisk IPv6 on by default?
19:46.56SamotThat is a config setting
19:47.23SamotYou can use IPv6 on Chan_SIP but not Chan_PJSIP if you'd like.
19:47.30SamotSame with IPv4.
19:47.42SamotYou have to tell Asterisk this stuff.
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20:13.48igcewielinghah!  From a vendor regarding an older monitoring server we are having trouble with: " I am honestly surprised your server's hardware is still functional, "
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21:03.54Bhakimihi guys im a bit desperate
21:04.11Bhakimiout of nowhere asterisk started to throw these errors: unable to send SIGHUP to AGI process 28250: No such process
21:04.25Bhakimiand when it does cpu goes throuhg the roof and kills the box
21:04.33Bhakimionly way to solve it is to restart asterisk
21:04.59Bhakimii need some type of lead to look into why this is happening, can anyone possibly help me find out why it uses so much cpu ?
21:05.11Bhakimithis error may be a side effect of a different issue
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21:11.28scgm11_will dump the memory at that moment and give some feedback
21:12.56scgm11_you probably will need to need to compile with dont optimze
21:16.36Bhakimibut not compile with debug correct
21:16.44Bhakimicause debug causes deadlocks in productions
21:18.23scgm11_there are many options
21:18.33scgm11_dont optimize will at least let see something
21:18.42scgm11_but maybe you will have to add more
21:18.49scgm11_compiler flags
21:19.25scgm11_check https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+a+Backtrace
21:22.09Bhakimithanks
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23:45.59beight0I'm trying to set up a voicemail only server with LDAP storage and SQL voicemail users. I found that for pollmailboxes to work, I need a sip peer with that mailbox. If the peer is stored in SQL, pollmailboxes will not work because the peer is not loaded into cache. Setting rtcachefriends does not help as the peer never registers. Is there a way to automatically cache SIP peers from an SQL database?

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