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13:10.03sibiriaCALLERID(num) holds the a-number on an incoming call, right
13:10.04sibiria?
13:10.29sibiriafor chan_sip
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15:38.33LunaLovegoodAt the moment I've got a few ATAs set up to dial into Asterisk (and go to WaitExten) as soon as the phone is off the hook in order to support complex digit maps easily in my dialplan, and it works alright.
15:39.02LunaLovegoodNow, my parents found an old rotary phone (pulse dial). Is there a way to decode pulse dialing in WaitExten?
15:39.41fileit's not up to Asterisk, it's up to the ATA
15:40.07LunaLovegoodYeah, it doesn't support it, it's a SPA112.
15:40.11sibiriadigium makes a device for doing that
15:40.30sibiriaand doesn't zaptel handle pulse dial, too?
15:43.23LunaLovegoodDo they make ATAs? I'm seeing the Switchvox E510, but it doesn't appear to have POTS ports.
15:44.25sibiriayeah they make one at least
15:44.28sibiriaor used to, perhaps
15:45.19SamotPulse dialing is dead.
15:45.50sibiriaIAXY is the name of Digium's ATA
15:46.11filelong time ago.
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15:47.09SamotThe last couple of analog phones I bought for ATA testing, no pulse dial settings.
15:48.12sibiriaright but those were surely also modern keypad phones, not rotary stuff :)
15:48.32sibirialast time i encountered an analog keypad phone with pulse was early 90s
15:48.52LunaLovegoodThere's the GA080 but with 8 lines it's a bit overkill for a home. The voice cards could probably do, but my parents only have a laptop.
15:49.09sibiriaLunaLovegood: maybe pick up a used IAXY from ebay or so
15:49.53filethere are other ATAs that support pulse dialing
15:50.17sibirialinksys also used to have one that was very tiny, single line
15:52.12sibiriaquite novel value and experience these days with an old rotary phone, but you'll likely be saving both time and money by just buying them a normal $10 analog phone :)
15:54.39LunaLovegoodThey already have DECT phones, and a cell phone. It's just the house they recently bought had an old rotary phone and they wanted to get it working.
15:55.10sibiriaebay; good hunting :)
15:57.12SamotWho are they going to call with it?
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15:57.25SamotThe actual amount of destinations they can call will be limited.
15:57.40SamotI.e. Nothing that expects some sort of DTMF interaction.
15:57.43LunaLovegoodwhy? once you've dialed it's just voice
15:57.50SamotSince there's no DTMF with pulse.
15:58.00LunaLovegoodoh sure, but they can just use the normal phone for that
15:58.11SamotOK.
15:58.21LunaLovegoodit should work just fine for calling people
15:58.36SamotSure.
15:58.51SamotAs long as you find an ATA that supports this.
15:59.01SamotWhich will probably be some off-brand ATA
15:59.10Samotor some 10 yo plus ATA
16:00.27LunaLovegoodProbably easier to just record how the pulses sound from the other side and write a quick and dirty dialplan app to parse them.
16:02.44Dovidwhen using chan_sip is it possible to get the sip-callID on an outbound call? i know that when Asterisk gets a call I can get the sip callid in ${SIPCALLID} but that does not seem to work on outbound calls (even after the H extension
16:06.05SamotHow will dialplan parse pulse sounds?
16:06.07SamotAnd for what?
16:07.09SamotYou understand why you have to rotate the dial all the way right?
16:07.21SamotWhy a half rotation doesn't work?
16:08.10sibiriaLunaLovegood: zaptel does this for you
16:09.00SamotFor the record, parents are the worse support users.
16:09.17SamotSo really ask yourself, while this will be cool to get an old rotary phone working....
16:09.33SamotDo you really want the same call over and over again which results in "Use the other phone"
16:10.01LunaLovegoodOh nevermind, I found somewhere that sells IAXYs.
16:10.46LunaLovegooderr, is the IAXY's version of IAX still compatible with Asterisk 14/15 ?
16:15.31SamotDoes IAXY support IAX2?
16:15.35SamotIf it does, then yes.
16:15.43SamotSince IAX2 hasn't really changed in years.
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16:33.09r1ppaTrying to look at Polycom UC admin guide for my soundpoint ip 301 phones, still trying to disable a Line/Speed dial button, I thought "soft keys" included these buttons. So to disable or change Line keys, is it EFK?
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16:36.00[TK]D-Fenderr1ppa, clarify exactly what you're looking to do.
16:37.40SamotClarify "disable"
16:38.48r1ppaok, I have 2 line keys, 1 has extension number and a symbol (WBN to make this go to voicemail), and 2 that connects to the Directory, which puts the first user at that button and folks click it and call this user all the time, they want it gone
16:39.06r1ppastill want to use directory of course, but that can stay with the up/down arrows
16:39.28[TK]D-Fenderremove the speed-dial index from all the directory entries
16:39.30r1ppaessentially I want to understand how to change line/speed dial keys, thanks
16:39.41SamotNone of that clarifies "disable"
16:39.48[TK]D-Fenderand don't jsut say "change".  That is uselessly vague
16:39.49r1ppaI am trying
16:39.56r1ppacontrol?
16:40.02[TK]D-Fenderalso vague
16:40.05SamotThe line keys on the phone do specific things.
16:40.05r1ppawow
16:40.10[TK]D-Fenderyou want it "fucking GONE" <-
16:40.17[TK]D-Fender:)
16:40.22r1ppaeasy
16:40.24SamotThat's what I'm asking.
16:40.34[TK]D-Fender<[TK]D-Fender> remove the speed-dial index from all the directory entries <-
16:40.34r1ppasure gone is fine
16:40.37SamotDo you want the line keys to not display anything?
16:41.12[TK]D-FenderApparently he wants the second to be completely unassigned and blank.
16:41.12r1ppawell line 2, yes, but will the up/down arrow still use Directory?
16:41.25SamotThe Line keys can be Line, BLF, Speeddail, Buddy
16:41.32[TK]D-Fenderr1ppa, Go check the SD index #'s on your entries
16:41.52SamotAnd they are used in that order.
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16:42.12r1ppaok not entirely sure what that means, open the Directory 00000000000.xml file and remove some SD index?
16:42.12SamotSo if you have a SIP account with 2 line appearances and 2 BLFs..
16:42.23SamotThe 2 line appearances appear first then the BLFs
16:42.49[TK]D-FenderPress buttons on your phoen
16:42.52[TK]D-Fenderloko at them
16:42.58[TK]D-Fendercan't type today
16:43.10[TK]D-FenderGo into the directory.  Look at the entries
16:43.40r1ppaI want the down arrow to still pull up the directory, but line 2 with zero function
16:44.09[TK]D-FenderGo into the directory.  Look at the entries
16:44.17r1ppaok
16:44.26SamotLine 2 of what?
16:44.32SamotThe actual Line Key?
16:44.51[TK]D-Fenderyes
16:44.54SamotOK
16:45.01SamotThat requires Line Key Reassignment
16:45.07[TK]D-FenderHas 2 buttons.  Wants then 2nd 'just blank"
16:45.14SamotAnd then you have to specify which key is what
16:45.34[TK]D-Fenderif you allocate only1  line key and have no SD index on any directory entry it should stay blank
16:45.34SamotWhen Line Key Reassignment is enabled, there is a 5th Line Key type. Unassigned
16:45.44SamotIt takes up the link key space but is blank.
16:45.45r1ppaI mean you can imagine idiot users clicking Line 2, but it calls speed dial index 1, when that is pointless, useless line key
16:45.58SamotLine Key Reassignment
16:46.00Samot^^^^
16:46.04SamotThat's what you need.
16:46.05r1ppaI hear you
16:46.10SamotWhat version of UC?
16:46.27r1ppathats my other issue
16:46.49Samot?
16:47.18r1ppanot sure when UC takes place, where is it, on newer phones only, most of my models are 301/430/450 soundpoint ip
16:47.42r1ppaI cant get my head around what is SIP/bootrom/UC (application?), but I am still reading up
16:48.39SamotUC is the firmware
16:48.47SamotWhat version of the firmware are you running?
16:48.51Samot5.x.x?
16:48.55Samot4.x.x?
16:48.58Samot3.x.x?
16:49.18r1ppachill with the smartass remarks, cant you?
16:49.29r1ppaI know you are good at this, this is what you do
16:49.46SamotI'm sorry?
16:49.52SamotI asked what the UC version was
16:49.59SamotThen clarified what it was.
16:50.10SamotThese are not smartass remarks.
16:50.15SamotThese a valid questions.
16:50.21r1ppais it 5x? 4x?3x?2x? what is it 1x?
16:50.23r1ppajust stop
16:50.27SamotOK.
16:50.28r1ppacmon lol
16:50.34SamotHave fun with it.
16:50.40r1ppaappreciate the help, seriously
16:50.51SamotBecause I'm not even sure the Line Key Reassignment is available.
16:51.03SamotSince this is an IP301 and those have been EOL for almost 5 years
16:51.09[TK]D-FenderHow hard is it to confirm what firmware they're running?  This changes your options.
16:51.09SamotAnd run on 3.x.x software.
16:51.22r1ppaBootROM 4.1.4, I think this is the latest I can use
16:51.30[TK]D-FendertSIP version
16:51.33[TK]D-Fendernot BootROM
16:51.38r1ppaI was getting it, oops sorry
16:51.51r1ppa3.1.8
16:51.55r1ppalatest for 301
16:52.02[TK]D-FenderAnd your other phones?
16:52.22r1ppawell I was hoping if I understand the 301, that the rest would kind of follow?
16:52.30[TK]D-Fendermaybe the means changes
16:52.38r1ppaI am focusing on the 301's right now, ok makes sense
16:52.51[TK]D-FenderThen have you done what I suggested?
16:53.24r1ppayou said to open directories and glance, phone booted up, glancing
16:53.34r1ppaup arrow is speeddial
16:53.40SamotThe Ip301 is a bad choice for this
16:53.46r1ppareally?
16:53.51SamotAs the newer phones use 5..x.x
16:53.56[TK]D-Fendernot "and glance"
16:54.08SamotSo what is available on the 3.x.x isn't the same as in 5.x.x
16:54.13[TK]D-FenderTWe seemt o missing what I specifically said to look for.
16:54.25[TK]D-FenderWe seem to be missing what I specifically said to look for.
16:54.59r1pparemove speeddial index from entries
16:54.59SamotIt can't be any higher that 3.1.8
16:55.02SamotI looked.
16:55.21r1ppayes I mentioned that
16:55.21SamotSo this phone is on the 3.x.x UC release.
16:55.25SamotI'm talking to TK
16:55.30r1ppamy baad
16:55.35SamotLetting him know, you did answer.
16:55.59SamotAnd regardless if you didn't or not, it's the only firmware that is for that phone.
16:56.09Samotdid*
16:56.31SamotYou are limited on the performance and features on an IP301
16:56.33r1ppayeah, so its ok for the answer to be, no you cannot use the Line key and make it moot
16:56.41SamotThat you would not be in current firmware releases.
16:56.46SamotI don't know
16:56.57SamotI would  have to go back and look at the 3.x.x firmware docs.
16:57.05SamotI know it's been a thing since the 5.x.x
16:57.19SamotI use it a lot for my VVX phones.
16:57.26SamotAnd a couple IP450's.
16:57.33r1ppayeah I started getting VVX300's
16:57.43SamotOK
16:57.45r1ppaactually using TK's vendor of choice, I think
16:57.48SamotThose are also dead phones.
16:57.49r1ppaSensus?
16:57.58r1ppaVVX300 already dead? lmao
16:58.06SamotAll SoundPoints are dead.
16:58.17SamotThe VVX's were updated with new hardware.
16:58.30SamotIt's now the VVX301 or VVX311
16:58.48r1ppaVVX is not soundpoint though
16:58.50SamotSame with the 4XX's, 5XX's, 6XX's.
16:58.57SamotSoundPoints are discountinued.
16:59.03SamotTheir support runs out next summer
16:59.04r1ppaah I thought you said my VVX 300's were dead too
16:59.07SamotThey are no longer sold.
16:59.08r1ppayeah I know
16:59.08SamotRight
16:59.15SamotThe old VVX lines are dead.
16:59.18SamotNo longer made
16:59.18r1ppathey are soo good, still working!
16:59.27SamotWell to a point.
16:59.40r1ppaok so for soundpoint ip 301, we are not sure if I can ...how do I say this?
16:59.41SamotNew firmware may not work since it expects the hardware to support it
16:59.53SamotThe IP301 is unsupported at this point.
16:59.54r1ppaI want line 1 to do nothing, how would you explain this?
16:59.59SamotI don't know.
17:00.09SamotYou need to look at 3.1.8 documents.
17:00.14r1ppaI am/was
17:00.17SamotI gave you the feature that does it
17:00.23SamotLine Key Reassignment
17:00.26r1ppaLine key reassignment
17:00.28r1pparoger
17:00.35r1ppaty
17:00.38SamotIf it is not available, then it's not supported in that firmware.
17:00.48r1ppaso same goes for my other models
17:00.58SamotI know it works in UC 5.x.x
17:01.18r1ppafind out from matrix the latest firmware, apply it via split if I can, read those specific docs for line key reassignment function/ability
17:01.20SamotIf the models can support any version release on that branch, it's available.
17:02.05r1ppaok so after 5 it is easier, but I know I saw something like reassignment in earlier docs, will check into that
17:02.55r1ppathanks for straightening out some nonsense for me guys, not trying to be lazy researcher but when you sysadmin, you do ALL, tough to get really good at Asterisk because it does not fail often so I never have to look really
17:04.11SamotThat makes no sense.
17:04.27SamotJust because it runs without issue doesn't limit your ability to get "good at Asterisk"
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21:03.35r1ppaSamot, sure it makes sense, you dont touch something and you are crazy busy with everything else, you dont learn more about that thing, how can you be so smart and well not smart at the same time. Have a great weekend!
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