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03:59.22BonteI'm trying to create a dynamic conference bridge that rings a line internally and when that line is picked up, adds a third party to the call.
03:59.50BonteSo part A calls in, party B's phone rings, when party B answers, party C is called and then they're all put into a confbridge.
04:01.04BonteUsing asterisk manager or .call files, I'm able to place the call to party B and bring them into the bridge, but I can't find a way to determine if party B answered to bring party A into the conference.
04:01.41BonteAny thoughts?
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10:54.30Joonakeany ideas if this is a feature or a bug and if it is fixed in latest versions: https://haste.joonake.fi/uwukoqafow ?
10:55.28Joonakeasterisk does not increment the session version id on SDP o= line even if SDP body has changed
10:56.47Joonakeshould it when only number of offered codecs is changed?
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12:10.07HenrikJottHi! I trying to get "Attended call transfer" to work and when i use the Dial-command i can pass the options "tTkK" to be able to transfer and park the call, but when i use call files i cannot get it to work. Does anyone know how i can pass those options from a call file?
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12:12.18HenrikJottMaybe i should mention that i use Asterisk 12 and the call im trying to transfer is in a queue, connected to an agent.
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12:25.01[TK]D-FenderHenrikJott, * 12 is no longer supported
12:25.50[TK]D-FenderNext, what phone is the transferer using?
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12:37.32HenrikJott[TK]D-Fender: Sorry, typo, i am using asterisk 13! The phone is sipml5 (javascript loaded in browser)
12:41.16HenrikJott[TK]D-Fender: I can see that the dtmf gets correctly signalled to asterisk but nothing happens. When i tried the same thing with the Dial command instead i got it working when i passed "tTkK" as options. That was on a X-lite softphone though...
12:41.43[TK]D-FenderYou should make sure your client has REAL SIP transfer capabilities.
12:42.07[TK]D-FenderDTMF should only be used when calling over the PSTN or another interface where it isn't possible to have native transfers, etc.
12:42.25[TK]D-FenderYou alternative for this case might be to use a Local channel to dial the Channel:
12:42.32[TK]D-Fenderand dial that with the options
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12:48.04HenrikJott[TK]D-Fender: Ok, you mean that I shouldn´t involve asterisk in the transfer? (i realize im on thin ice here).. What we tried is to use the asterisk built in functionality for attended call transfer but as agents wait in the queue and we auto dial out i think we need to add those options in the call file. I´ve tried to add "Data: tTkK" to the call file but it does not seem to make any
12:48.05HenrikJottdifference.
12:52.45Dovidmorning
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13:16.12[TK]D-FenderDTMF transfers = ass
13:16.30[TK]D-FenderI told you what to do. Dial a LOCAL channel
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13:16.45[TK]D-Fenderand pass Dial your options
13:19.55SamotWhat is a "native transfer" and why can't DTMF be used for it?
13:23.58[TK]D-FenderSIP transfer inside a SIP client.  Like it should be
13:24.49SamotAnd how do things on "one-touch" get done?
13:25.07[TK]D-Fenderas in?
13:25.08SamotOne-touch parking, one-touch recording, one-touch anything...
13:25.18[TK]D-Fenderthat's clearly different
13:25.23SamotHow?
13:25.23[TK]D-Fenderthat isn't a native SIP thing
13:25.28SamotBS.
13:25.53[TK]D-FenderWhere is "record" in the SIP protocol?
13:25.58[TK]D-FenderI don't think you're following the context
13:26.17SamotSure.
13:26.21filethere is a Snomism for one-touch recording
13:26.21SamotI have a button..
13:26.31SamotIt does *271
13:26.37SamotThat drops it in a parking log
13:26.38[TK]D-Fenderthe WAY he's calling that channel doesn't tell * to accept DTMF call control features.  THAT is what I'm saying he shouldn't need.
13:26.42SamotThat drops it in a parking lot
13:26.48[TK]D-Fenderthe fact your phone is sparter doens't make the action singular
13:26.51SamotSure it does
13:27.00SamotWhen you add the Dial() options.
13:27.09[TK]D-Fendersure and you can tell your wife "make me a cake".
13:27.13[TK]D-FenderI guess that's a 1-step cake
13:27.22[TK]D-FenderWhatever
13:27.41[TK]D-FenderStill not what we're actually trying to resolve here
13:27.54SamotWell...
13:28.05SamotIf you're going to suggest stuff..
13:28.15SamotDon't sit there and say DTMF can't be used "natively"
13:28.18SamotBecause that is wrong.
13:28.23[TK]D-FenderI didn't say "can't"
13:28.30[TK]D-FenderSo actually read what I said
13:28.31SamotNo you're right
13:28.36SamotJust that you shouldn't.
13:28.54[TK]D-FenderIf you have a SIP device let it it ITS thing
13:29.08[TK]D-FenderYou don't use a highly functional thing and then drive it like a chump
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13:38.22SamotWell as far as I can tell..
13:38.28Samot*2 puts the call on hold..
13:38.32SamotAsterisk "holds" it
13:38.39SamotYou dial where you want it to go..
13:39.08SamotAnd that is connected and you hangup, it bridges the held channel into the newly answered channel and dumps your channel.
13:39.47SamotThe "SIP" way just puts the call on hold, dials the new calls as a new call...
13:40.01SamotAnd when that transfer button is hit a second time..it sends a REFER
13:40.16SamotTo tell the system, "Hey, bridge these other two channels together"
13:40.32SamotSo one way has Asterisk do it all internally
13:40.42SamotThe other requires the device to send additional SIP messages.
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13:41.41SamotNeither of those two processes are dependent or work better/worse over the PSTN vs "native/local" devices.
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16:36.20jamesaxlsometimes when I run queue show my_queue, I see that number of calls become to 0 , is it a configuration issue ?
16:36.56[TK]D-FenderNo, those stats reset every now & again
16:37.08[TK]D-FenderDon't remember the trigger or terms
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16:46.33jamesaxl[TK]D-Fender: because i create a real-time application for monitoring a small call center and i got this issue
16:46.59jamesaxlmaybe I will took info from database queue_log
16:47.08jamesaxls/took/take*
16:47.37Samotwell logs do rotate
16:48.45jamesaxlSamot: is it a safe solution or not ?
16:49.16SamotWell most queue reporting software I've seen for Asterisk, reads from the log and stores the information in a backend database.
16:49.35SamotSo it's not trying to parse an active log file for data
16:50.05SamotOr having to keep that log file from rotating or becoming enormously huge
16:51.34jamesaxlSamot: in my case, I think that i am smart and I parse the output of asterisk CLI :D
16:52.01SamotWhy would you do that?
16:52.19SamotI mean the CLI is just showing you what is logged.
16:52.41jamesaxlSamot: because I don't have experience, but I am going to take the info directly from database
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17:10.20[TK]D-Fenderi disabled queue log rotation on my server
17:10.25[TK]D-Fenderand you can also log direct to SQL
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18:05.31twitchnlnmorning, trying to setup remote queue agent under asterisk 11.25 am able to get logged in and send queue calls to remote agent, but queue does not seem to respect 'skip busy agent' and I see the following in CLI when agent is on call: 1000 has 0 calls (max unlimited) in 'ringall' strategy (7s holdtime, 25s talktime), W:0, C:6, A:4, SL:100.0% within 60s
18:05.31twitchnln<PROTECTED>
18:05.31twitchnln<PROTECTED>
18:05.32twitchnln<PROTECTED>
18:07.22roswelltwitchnln, do you have hints enabled for queue members?
18:08.16twitchnlnroswell, how do you enable hints on local channel?
18:08.52roswelltwitchnln, interesting. how do you have queue members defined?
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18:11.11twitchnlnroswell,  https://pastebin.com/HstUpmBc
18:11.57[TK]D-Fender(Not in use) <- doesn't look BUSY to me....
18:12.32twitchnlnI know, that's the problem, the status was run while agent was on call
18:13.14[TK]D-FenderOutside shit doesn't HAVE a status
18:13.23[TK]D-FenderThere is no presence for a "PSTN phone #"
18:14.10[TK]D-FenderAnd tehre was no queue call going on at the time of your paste there
18:14.27SamotWait..wait wait
18:14.32Samot"Remote" agent
18:14.45SamotYou're assuming Asterisk can tell the state of a mobile phone?
18:14.59SamotIt knows if the agent is on a call
18:15.10SamotBut doesn't know about CF, CW
18:15.29SamotHow many calls marks that device as "BUSY"
18:15.30twitchnlnNo, I'm expecting asterisk to remember it called the mobile and started the queue call, and not to send another until first is finished.
18:15.44[TK]D-FenderI don't see a queue call in progress there at all
18:16.04[TK]D-FenderShow me otherwise
18:18.57SamotPlus..
18:19.03SamotLocal is a 2-part channel.
18:19.19SamotYou have to make sure Asterisk is watching for the 2 leg of the channel to be in use
18:19.23SamotNot the first.
18:19.34SamotBecause as soon as that call bridges, the first channel is gone.
18:19.50SamotSo it doesn't exist anymore ergo it is "not in use"
18:21.00twitchnlnD-Fender/Samot, Here is trace with call up and queue showing nothing.
18:21.02twitchnlnhttps://pastebin.com/cyfd5X6q
18:21.35SamotAnd what was the state of the agent during the call?
18:21.39SamotWhen it was connected?
18:22.03twitchnlnin call, but second call still came in
18:22.27Samot<PROTECTED>
18:22.39SamotSo which is being monitored for follow up calls?
18:23.00SamotThe status that shows "in call" or the device/extension status that shows it not in use?
18:23.19[TK]D-Fender<PROTECTED>
18:23.22SamotYou need to make sure Asterisk is remember the right thing.
18:23.26[TK]D-Fender-- Executing [h@macro-dialout-trunk:1] Macro("Local/4443335552@from-internal-00000010;2", "hangupcall,") in new stack
18:23.30[TK]D-FenderI see a HANGUP right after
18:23.38SamotRight
18:23.47SamotOne of the Local channels hangsup
18:23.50SamotLike it should.
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18:23.53[TK]D-FenderEXTRA dea
18:23.55[TK]D-Fenderdead
18:24.04[TK]D-Fender<PROTECTED>
18:24.13SamotWhat about the OTHER LEG?
18:24.35[TK]D-FenderThink we're going to see a channel listing?
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18:24.49SamotMy point.
18:25.12SamotIs the exception based on watching the wrong status/channel-leg?
18:25.24twitchnlnso I should be monitoring IAX2/AgudathTestElastix-4839
18:25.27SamotOne status shows in call the other shows the device not in use
18:25.40twitchnlnwhich is the 2nd leg of call
18:26.00SamotSo
18:26.01SamotSure
18:26.06SamotOr the "in call" status
18:26.13SamotJust not anything related to the device
18:26.25SamotSince it will never have a status other than "not in use"
18:26.40SamotUnless *you* set it yourself based on actions.
18:26.41twitchnlnHow would I monitor the "in call" status, that sounds easier than a constantly changing 2nd leg
18:28.55Samotstate_interface
18:29.20SamotInstead of it being something like SIP/<device> or IAX/<device>
18:29.47SamotYou use Agent:1000
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18:30.46SamotI don't generally deal with remote agents...
18:31.12SamotSo the rare times I do, I just have to tweak things until they play how I want
18:31.30SamotOr compromise to how Asterisk wants it
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19:40.01skieshello
19:40.14skiesplease i need some help ..
19:40.33skiescan i register multiple soft phone on 1 SIP extension?
19:41.04skiesand what i want when there incoming call on that SIP extension it should ring on all soft phone
19:41.07skiesand what i want when there incoming call on that SIP extension it should ring on all soft phones
19:42.41roswellskies, https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/SLA+Trunk+Configuration
19:45.00skiesThanks let me check.
19:45.41thiagocskies, why not use different extensions and a queue with ringall strategy?
19:46.38skies@thiagoc, reason is becuase same extension.. i want to configure on mobile and softphone and hardphone.
19:54.17[TK]D-FenderSLA is a lie
19:54.45[TK]D-Fenderand has nothing to do with this
19:54.56[TK]D-Fender(as * calls it)
19:55.01[TK]D-Fenderchan_sip cannot do this
19:55.05[TK]D-FenderPJSIP can
19:57.33skieshttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/SLA+Trunk+Configuration  -> i have read this but this is using trunk. what if there is 100 make a to 200. and 200 is register on mulitple phone then how would we handle it
19:59.42roswellskies, https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4816923
20:00.00skiesthanks let me check this
20:00.19[TK]D-FenderSLA has NOTHING to do with this
20:00.47[TK]D-FenderYou are wasting your time
20:01.12[TK]D-Fender<skies> can i register multiple soft phone on 1 SIP extension? -----> PJSIP ONLY <-----
20:02.58skies@TK]D-Fender, please can you give any exmple links which i can follow?
20:03.10skiesusing PJSIP on asterisk?
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21:00.45wyoungService Level Agreement Trunk Configuration?
21:08.44rmudgettShared Line Appearance
21:12.56wyoungAh, old fashion PBX tech
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22:20.33_Maik_why the hack is yealink dailing to extension 1 when it recives a BLF NOTIFY
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