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05:41.59 | FarhaadN | hi , randomly PDD is high in asterisk 14.6.0 , and couse my dial time delay |
05:42.02 | FarhaadN | what can i do? |
05:59.00 | FarhaadN | pleasee help |
06:01.24 | drmessano | 1. Get a faster box |
06:01.32 | drmessano | 2. Enable early media |
06:01.37 | drmessano | 3. Talk to your provider |
06:02.03 | drmessano | You've provided few details |
06:02.09 | drmessano | No clue how you're set up |
06:02.45 | Samot | Vaguely |
06:03.51 | FarhaadN | drmessano: not depend on provider |
06:03.58 | FarhaadN | extention to extention |
06:04.07 | drmessano | 1. Get a faster box |
06:04.12 | drmessano | 2. Enable early media |
06:04.18 | FarhaadN | what is faster box? |
06:04.19 | drmessano | No clue how you're set up |
06:04.23 | drmessano | You've provided few details |
06:04.45 | drmessano | Every time you come in here |
06:04.51 | drmessano | You seem to know nothing about your setup |
06:05.02 | drmessano | Can you have your ASTERISK ADMIN come to IRC and not you? |
06:05.11 | drmessano | The guy that knows what your box is doing |
06:06.36 | FarhaadN | i can explane you every thing u need |
06:06.44 | FarhaadN | just i dont know |
06:06.57 | FarhaadN | how can i start with issue |
06:07.06 | FarhaadN | and where i can find problem |
06:07.15 | FarhaadN | with what debug |
06:07.20 | FarhaadN | what setup |
06:07.34 | drmessano | 1. Get a faster box |
06:07.37 | drmessano | 2. Enable early media |
06:07.53 | drmessano | PDD is a result of a latency if it's random |
06:08.14 | drmessano | If it's extension to extension and random, your box is too slow |
06:08.28 | FarhaadN | what is box? |
06:08.32 | FarhaadN | server? |
06:08.37 | drmessano | COMPUTER SERVER ASTERISK |
06:08.46 | drmessano | JFC |
06:09.11 | FarhaadN | i check that, when promlem accourd, there is no high load of server |
06:09.26 | drmessano | I dont believe you |
06:09.36 | drmessano | Prove it |
06:09.43 | drmessano | Show it when the problem occurs |
06:10.18 | FarhaadN | ok |
06:11.07 | drmessano | You have something to show, right? |
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06:11.36 | phix | hihi |
06:12.00 | FarhaadN | drmessano: |
06:12.02 | FarhaadN | yes |
06:12.07 | drmessano | Show it |
06:12.07 | FarhaadN | i have use voipmonitor |
06:12.14 | drmessano | ..... |
06:12.31 | phix | hi gang |
06:12.41 | FarhaadN | show screen shot of that time, and asterisk log |
06:12.46 | drmessano | voipmonitor is a fucking packet sniffer |
06:13.02 | Samot | FarhaadN: Show the load of the server |
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06:13.23 | drmessano | SHOW US THE LOAD |
06:13.31 | FarhaadN | drmessano: what is better packet sniffer? |
06:13.39 | drmessano | Dude |
06:13.40 | FarhaadN | Samot: OK |
06:13.41 | drmessano | SYSTEM LOAD |
06:13.46 | drmessano | NOT PACKETS |
06:13.55 | drmessano | Your server is TOO SLOW |
06:13.57 | FarhaadN | drmessano: OK |
06:14.00 | FarhaadN | wait |
06:14.10 | drmessano | Not waiting |
06:14.28 | FarhaadN | top - 10:44:21 up 40 days, 22:24, 3 users, load average: 0.77, 1.17, 1.28 |
06:14.36 | drmessano | HAH |
06:14.37 | Samot | Uhm. |
06:14.40 | drmessano | HAHHAHAHHAHAH |
06:14.41 | Samot | Thats overloaded |
06:14.45 | drmessano | Get another server |
06:14.51 | drmessano | Your server is pegged the fuck out |
06:15.07 | drmessano | Overloaded = PDD |
06:15.08 | Samot | How many core is the CPU? |
06:15.10 | FarhaadN | why? |
06:15.19 | FarhaadN | Samot: 4 |
06:15.20 | drmessano | Why? |
06:15.33 | drmessano | LOOK AT TOP |
06:15.37 | drmessano | The very thing you're using |
06:15.45 | drmessano | ITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU |
06:15.45 | Samot | 1.00 = 1 Core |
06:15.50 | Samot | 100% |
06:15.52 | drmessano | SEND US YOUR ADMIN |
06:16.03 | Samot | You're server is basically overloading |
06:16.20 | drmessano | Hang on |
06:16.28 | drmessano | FarhaadN: LOOK AT TOP PLEASE |
06:16.51 | FarhaadN | server 4 core cpu |
06:16.56 | drmessano | Dude |
06:16.58 | drmessano | STOP |
06:16.59 | drmessano | WAIT |
06:17.06 | Samot | Look at the top results. |
06:17.07 | drmessano | Just like you say |
06:17.10 | drmessano | FarhaadN: LOOK AT TOP PLEASE |
06:17.11 | drmessano | NOW |
06:17.14 | drmessano | ITS RIGHT THERE |
06:17.21 | drmessano | LERN2TOP |
06:18.19 | FarhaadN | whit 4 core cpu , when top is 4 is overload |
06:18.26 | drmessano | DUDE |
06:18.27 | drmessano | STOP |
06:18.32 | drmessano | LOOK AT THE FUCKING PROCESSES |
06:18.39 | drmessano | WHAT IS LOADING YOUR SERVER? |
06:18.42 | drmessano | LOOOOOOK |
06:18.52 | FarhaadN | 1.17 |
06:18.56 | drmessano | NO |
06:19.03 | drmessano | God fucking damnit |
06:19.10 | drmessano | Stop telling us its loaded |
06:19.19 | drmessano | LOOK AT THE ACTUAL PROCESSES |
06:19.36 | drmessano | TOP literally TELLS YOU what is RUNNING |
06:19.42 | drmessano | and WHAT ITS DOING |
06:19.49 | drmessano | Right IN FRONT OF YOU |
06:20.46 | FarhaadN | i have another server in another places , and top show me 4 in that server |
06:20.52 | FarhaadN | and i dont have this issue |
06:20.58 | FarhaadN | with same configuration |
06:20.58 | drmessano | I dont care |
06:21.04 | drmessano | Your server is overloaded |
06:21.07 | Samot | Look at the processes running |
06:21.12 | drmessano | and you are REFUSING to look at the actual commands |
06:21.16 | drmessano | I keep asking you |
06:21.17 | Samot | See what is taking up CPU resources |
06:21.21 | drmessano | and youre fucking REFUSING |
06:21.27 | drmessano | if you want help, stop being a dick |
06:22.13 | drmessano | TOP literally shows you what processes are running and their RESOURCE USAGE |
06:22.17 | drmessano | It's RIGHT THERE |
06:23.27 | drmessano | FarhaadN: |
06:23.32 | drmessano | Close top |
06:23.54 | drmessano | open it back up |
06:23.58 | drmessano | Shift+P |
06:24.02 | drmessano | Sorts by CPU |
06:24.07 | drmessano | LOOK AT THE TOP THING IN THE LIST |
06:24.26 | drmessano | Stop making this take HOURS |
06:24.32 | FarhaadN | mysqld |
06:24.34 | FarhaadN | asterisk |
06:24.37 | FarhaadN | voipmonitor |
06:24.40 | drmessano | THERE YOU GO |
06:24.46 | FarhaadN | mysqld 157% |
06:24.51 | drmessano | THERE YOU GO |
06:24.54 | Samot | Holy crap |
06:24.56 | drmessano | TADA |
06:25.05 | FarhaadN | mysqld now 0.7 % |
06:25.35 | drmessano | "random PDD issue" = boom |
06:25.45 | drmessano | Go fix your shit |
06:25.49 | wyoung | hi drmessano |
06:25.53 | drmessano | hi wyoung |
06:26.21 | FarhaadN | drmessano: :-X |
06:26.25 | drmessano | Have you ever watched it take 20 mins to explain 'top'? |
06:26.35 | drmessano | wyoung: ^ |
06:27.20 | wyoung | what? |
06:27.24 | drmessano | 02:09:12 <FarhaadN> i check that, when promlem accourd, there is no high load of server |
06:27.24 | drmessano | 02:09:27 <drmessano> I dont believe you |
06:27.29 | wyoung | what;s the latest sir? |
06:27.32 | drmessano | What do I win? |
06:27.57 | drmessano | I feel like I am at the fair |
06:28.06 | drmessano | I want the giant stuffed pokemon doll |
06:28.26 | drmessano | 157% CPU usage is bad |
06:28.49 | drmessano | Not because mysqld is using 157% at times |
06:28.53 | wyoung | Not if you have multiple cores |
06:29.10 | drmessano | But because it's likely causing Asterisk to go fucky because that's who is using it |
06:29.39 | drmessano | FarhaadN: You have something totally fucked on that box if the others dont do it |
06:29.57 | drmessano | Either that box is underpowered or something isn't right in your config.. or who knows |
06:30.47 | wyoung | drmessano: so split your DB and asterisk to different VMs / PCs |
06:31.03 | drmessano | Thats up to him |
06:31.17 | wyoung | oh |
06:31.18 | drmessano | He wanted to know why his stuff was highly latent |
06:31.22 | drmessano | Now he knows |
06:31.45 | drmessano | 02:09:12 <FarhaadN> i check that, when promlem accourd, there is no high load of server |
06:31.45 | drmessano | 02:09:27 <drmessano> I dont believe you |
06:32.17 | drmessano | FarhaadN: Please respond |
06:32.31 | drmessano | I dont want you pinging me 3 hours from now telling me your box isnt slow |
06:32.36 | drmessano | or asking me what a box is again |
06:32.48 | drmessano | You did that last time you had an issue |
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06:36.12 | wyoung | drmessano: I wonder what time zone (s)he is in. |
06:36.24 | wyoung | I will be here for another 6 hours |
06:37.12 | drmessano | I dont care about the time, I care that he gets an answer, comes back 3 hours later, and tells me "Thats not it".. he did this for 2 weeks last time and he was wrong the whole time |
06:37.28 | drmessano | VoIPDenial |
06:38.26 | wyoung | ok, well that is his / her problem |
06:38.49 | wyoung | If they can't be bothered to stick around for an answer then they don't deserve one. Especially since this is a community service |
06:39.01 | drmessano | True |
06:39.08 | wyoung | unless (s)he has an SLA with you :) |
06:39.44 | wyoung | woah, 2AM where you are? |
06:40.05 | drmessano | 2:40AM |
06:40.07 | drmessano | Yep |
06:40.12 | wyoung | Go to bed (wo)?m[ae]n! |
06:40.41 | wyoung | Unless you are a shift worker |
06:41.04 | drmessano | My days and nights are upside down most of the time.. I actually just woke from a nap |
06:41.50 | wyoung | oh |
06:41.53 | FarhaadN | sry for delay , i am in work and other work i was doing |
06:42.00 | FarhaadN | i am not a asterisk developer |
06:42.02 | wyoung | FarhaadN!!!! welcome back!!! |
06:42.08 | wyoung | You have two ppl on your case now |
06:42.20 | drmessano | FarhaadN: Then you need someone else to look at your box |
06:42.26 | drmessano | Get a consultant |
06:42.43 | FarhaadN | i just want to help my team |
06:42.48 | drmessano | The fact that it took us 20 mins to get you to look at top takes me back to my original statement |
06:42.58 | drmessano | I want to speak to the guy that admins the box |
06:43.10 | drmessano | Put him on IRC |
06:43.33 | drmessano | Nothing wrong with being a junior admin, but this is a big boy problem |
06:44.02 | FarhaadN | i want solved problem myself |
06:44.10 | drmessano | You dont have the skills |
06:44.16 | drmessano | We've determined that before |
06:44.38 | drmessano | You can't even look at top without me giving you keyboard shortcuts to sort the columns |
06:44.41 | drmessano | Come on man |
06:44.48 | FarhaadN | if i hurt or offend you |
06:44.53 | FarhaadN | and other guys |
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06:44.55 | drmessano | You didnt |
06:45.04 | drmessano | You just dont know what youre doing |
06:45.07 | FarhaadN | i sry |
06:45.12 | drmessano | and you have a box thats spiking out |
06:45.19 | drmessano | Get your admin to join IRC |
06:45.25 | drmessano | Youre not the guy for it |
06:45.40 | FarhaadN | and Apology |
06:45.46 | drmessano | *sigh* |
06:46.20 | drmessano | We need to talk to someone there who knows what they are doing |
06:46.33 | drmessano | Now please, get them to get on IRC |
06:46.57 | FarhaadN | (11:14:40 AM) drmessano: You can't even look at top without me giving you keyboard shortcuts to sort the columns |
06:47.12 | drmessano | 20 mins |
06:47.17 | FarhaadN | no this't right |
06:47.19 | drmessano | I had to tell you to Shift+P |
06:47.28 | drmessano | You keep giving us the LOAD |
06:47.31 | drmessano | 20 mins |
06:47.41 | FarhaadN | i told you |
06:47.43 | drmessano | Dude, its clear you are NOT the system admin there |
06:47.48 | drmessano | Now stop |
06:47.53 | FarhaadN | bettween talking you |
06:48.01 | drmessano | Ok, im done |
06:48.13 | FarhaadN | i work other things together |
06:48.35 | FarhaadN | and another problem is my language |
06:48.56 | drmessano | Scroll up |
06:49.04 | drmessano | Told you to look at top |
06:49.07 | FarhaadN | i should every statment you talk to me, tlansale in google |
06:49.09 | drmessano | At the processes |
06:49.14 | drmessano | You responded with the load |
06:49.44 | drmessano | mysqld is your problem |
06:49.57 | drmessano | Go fix whatever is causing mysqld to spike out the CPU |
06:50.03 | FarhaadN | in that time i check top and paste in pastebin |
06:50.04 | drmessano | Probably Asterisk |
06:50.18 | drmessano | and Asterisk is probably shitting itself when mysqld spikes out |
06:50.23 | FarhaadN | and then send to you |
06:50.32 | drmessano | Are you using realtime with Asterisk? |
06:50.37 | drmessano | or CDR? |
06:50.39 | drmessano | or both? |
06:50.42 | FarhaadN | both |
06:50.45 | drmessano | Yep |
06:50.55 | drmessano | Thats why your PDD is randomly lagging |
06:51.02 | drmessano | You need a bigger box |
06:51.59 | FarhaadN | what recommanded? |
06:52.03 | FarhaadN | 4 core cpu |
06:52.07 | FarhaadN | and 8 GB ram |
06:52.15 | FarhaadN | 500 GB SSD hard |
06:52.33 | FarhaadN | this is server i used |
06:52.46 | drmessano | "4 core CPU" means NOTHING |
06:52.59 | drmessano | I dont see any specs |
06:53.07 | drmessano | But even then |
06:53.15 | drmessano | Its clear it doesnt match the actual usage |
06:53.18 | drmessano | It's underpowered |
06:53.36 | drmessano | 8GB RAM is definitely too small |
06:53.45 | drmessano | SHould have put 32GB in a new server |
06:54.02 | drmessano | Especially with a realtime Asterisk DB and CDR |
06:54.06 | drmessano | RAM is cheap |
06:54.23 | drmessano | What are the CPU specs? |
06:54.50 | FarhaadN | https://pastebin.com/Lj53dAUs |
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06:57.11 | drmessano | Youre using a desktop CPU for this? |
07:00.13 | FarhaadN | hardware prepared with another guys |
07:00.26 | drmessano | Its underpowered |
07:00.28 | FarhaadN | we only deploy |
07:00.32 | FarhaadN | my service |
07:00.33 | FarhaadN | on it |
07:01.47 | wyoung | I am here now |
07:03.09 | FarhaadN | if i use only CDR |
07:03.15 | FarhaadN | with this server |
07:04.15 | FarhaadN | possible to solevd problem? |
07:05.03 | drmessano | Hard to say |
07:05.14 | drmessano | How many concurrent calls are on this system? |
07:05.53 | wyoung | Hmmmmm |
07:06.00 | wyoung | How many channels you got too? |
07:06.06 | FarhaadN | in top times is 30 |
07:06.08 | FarhaadN | or 40 |
07:06.09 | wyoung | and which codec? |
07:06.15 | FarhaadN | g729 |
07:06.23 | wyoung | that is why you are CPU spiking :) |
07:06.48 | wyoung | g729 is CPU intensive, unless you have a hardware card to (trans|de|en)code it |
07:07.07 | wyoung | is everything voice prompt / pre-recored messages in g729 too? |
07:07.15 | drmessano | WOW |
07:07.37 | drmessano | Are you recording calls too? |
07:07.42 | wyoung | drmessano: Am I giving good advice? |
07:07.58 | drmessano | Yeah but we're not there yet |
07:07.59 | wyoung | Or was that WOW a realisation that FarhaadN is doing other CPU intensive shit? |
07:08.05 | drmessano | ^ that |
07:08.09 | wyoung | :) |
07:08.19 | drmessano | FarhaadN: Are you recording calls too? |
07:09.37 | wyoung | If MySQL is spiking you probably have a tonne of slow queries. set up some slow query logging and see what is causing the issue. You probably need to add in indexes and get rid of union queries or other shit. You can also setup CPU limits in /etc/pam/security or whatnot. but if I was you I would run MySQL on its own VM / PC |
07:10.01 | FarhaadN | drmessano: yes recording |
07:10.03 | wyoung | MySQL is inherritently terrible. |
07:10.07 | wyoung | lol |
07:10.08 | drmessano | HAHAHAHHAH |
07:10.15 | drmessano | Dude |
07:10.27 | wyoung | FarhaadN: What country are you in now? |
07:10.28 | drmessano | What is the word for FUCKED in your language? |
07:10.46 | drmessano | Your box is WAY WAY WAY underspec'ed |
07:10.59 | Samot | Horribly fucked |
07:11.00 | drmessano | 40 calls with transcoding and recording on some i5 |
07:11.05 | wyoung | drmessano: use [au]law if you want to reduce CPU load |
07:11.11 | Samot | An i5?!?! |
07:11.15 | wyoung | haha |
07:11.19 | drmessano | wyoung: Not even just g729 |
07:11.23 | wyoung | FarhaadN: What country? |
07:11.29 | wyoung | drmessano: how many channels? |
07:11.30 | drmessano | thats a piece, but a small one |
07:11.52 | drmessano | What stands out is realtime and recording AND the g729, int that order |
07:11.56 | FarhaadN | <PROTECTED> |
07:11.58 | FarhaadN | Iran |
07:12.01 | drmessano | and the box is underpowered to begin with |
07:12.06 | drmessano | So ANY of those are a problem |
07:12.29 | FarhaadN | in past whas ulaw |
07:12.32 | drmessano | FarhaadN: You need a server with maybe DOUBLE the specifications you have now |
07:12.40 | FarhaadN | for test i change to g729 |
07:12.42 | drmessano | Xeon |
07:12.46 | wyoung | FarhaadN: http://www.irantalent.com/home/Binas-Energy-jobs.html |
07:12.52 | drmessano | FarhaadN: You need a server with maybe DOUBLE the specifications you have now |
07:13.00 | drmessano | ^ please acknowledge |
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07:13.07 | FarhaadN | and from yesterday is ulaw again |
07:14.17 | FarhaadN | wyoung: what is this link for? |
07:15.06 | FarhaadN | drmessano: i told preperd another server |
07:16.13 | wyoung | FarhaadN: Another job if you can't solve this issue |
07:16.17 | FarhaadN | Providing hardware |
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07:17.37 | FarhaadN | wyoung: i dont need |
07:17.52 | FarhaadN | where are you from? |
07:18.13 | FarhaadN | in your country is a job? |
07:25.20 | wyoung | FarhaadN: AU |
07:26.11 | wyoung | FarhaadN: There are jobs here, but there are jobs in Iran too |
07:27.35 | phix | .o/ |
07:27.52 | wyoung | \o. |
07:28.17 | FarhaadN | wyoung: australlia? |
07:28.28 | FarhaadN | i want to change my country |
07:28.50 | phix | WHy? |
07:28.55 | phix | Makes your country better! |
07:29.01 | phix | s/s// |
07:29.33 | FarhaadN | phix: yes |
07:30.28 | phix | Or if you do leave and come to AU assimilate, don't bring your country's problems to my country :) |
07:31.12 | FarhaadN | nothing here is right |
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07:32.23 | phix | FarhaadN: Make it right or come to AU and assimulate! |
07:34.10 | FarhaadN | How can i apply for your country ? job |
07:34.27 | wyoung | You need to be competent first :) |
07:34.42 | wyoung | well, actually that is optional if you are going for a management job |
07:35.35 | FarhaadN | i just want a good job , i can learn and got skill |
07:35.41 | FarhaadN | not a management job |
07:35.50 | wyoung | Learn by reading |
07:35.55 | wyoung | and understanding |
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07:38.00 | FarhaadN | you cant understand, when prerequisite not exist |
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07:41.41 | wyoung | FarhaadN: prereqs do exist |
07:43.55 | drmessano | You're clearly not skilled enough for the job you have. You need to start learning, fast |
07:44.02 | drmessano | or find something else |
07:44.25 | drmessano | Asterisk is rolling you, bruh |
07:44.45 | wyoung | FarhaadN: how old are you? |
07:45.47 | FarhaadN | drmessano: i am gain information |
07:45.55 | FarhaadN | wyoung: 29 |
07:46.24 | FarhaadN | and u? |
07:55.03 | wyoung | nice |
07:55.04 | wyoung | 33 |
07:58.14 | drmessano | Iâll be 75 one day |
08:01.18 | wyoung | Depending if you don't get hit by a bus before hand of course |
08:02.34 | FarhaadN | wyoung: nice to meet u |
08:02.43 | FarhaadN | drmessano: and you |
08:02.56 | FarhaadN | and again appoly for every time i enter this channel |
08:02.57 | FarhaadN | :D |
08:03.55 | wyoung | :D |
08:04.54 | drmessano | wyoung: or murdered, really |
08:05.28 | FarhaadN | appology* |
08:05.50 | wyoung | drmessano: or that |
08:07.57 | wyoung | I am watching bojack horseman now drmessano |
08:08.18 | wyoung | Can we move this to a social channel? |
08:16.24 | drmessano | Move what? |
08:16.33 | wyoung | this chat |
08:16.40 | wyoung | as it isn't within topic |
08:19.26 | wyoung | drmessano: or is that not an issue here? |
08:25.42 | drmessano | I wouldnt worry about iut |
08:25.43 | drmessano | I wouldnt worry about it |
08:31.16 | wyoung | ok |
08:31.22 | wyoung | are you an op? |
08:31.29 | wyoung | If not then I should worry about it |
08:31.56 | wyoung | Don't give me false security drmessano! This isn't a microsoft channel. |
08:32.29 | drmessano | Dude |
08:32.38 | drmessano | This channel has been off-topic for like 12 years |
08:32.44 | drmessano | Off and on |
08:32.56 | drmessano | Pretty relaxed rules |
08:33.21 | wyoung | nice, I haven't been banned here so I guess it is pretyt relaxed :P |
08:34.23 | drmessano | I had sex with Samot's mom in here and didnt get banned |
08:34.31 | drmessano | So I think we're fine |
08:34.35 | Samot | True story |
08:34.43 | Samot | It was over pretty quick though |
08:34.51 | Samot | It was like "drmessano nipped out" |
08:35.09 | drmessano | Yeah well |
08:35.12 | drmessano | She was all like |
08:35.18 | drmessano | "Youre bigger than my son" |
08:35.22 | drmessano | So whatevs |
08:35.35 | Samot | She was calling you fat. |
08:36.23 | drmessano | Im surprised she could see anything with that bag over her head |
08:36.55 | drmessano | She should be happy it was only one bag. Any other day and she would have been a two-bagger |
08:38.37 | drmessano | https://www.reddit.com/r/hacking/comments/70cv5w/cso_of_equifax/ |
08:38.41 | drmessano | You see that shit? |
08:39.24 | Samot | Music. |
08:39.25 | Samot | HAHA |
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08:44.07 | Samot | [J]oules and FarhaadN should apply. They could be Co-CSO's. |
08:48.00 | drmessano | Agreed |
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16:17.12 | cervajs2 | hi, im trying res_config_curl. extconfig.conf - ps_auths => curl,http://localhost:8000/ps_auths - i get { id: 'testuser' } from asterisk. how format reply? i tried password=somepass |
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17:15.47 | sibiria | is there any decent solution to the problem that the Monitor application produces two legs that are of entirely different lengths and cannot be synced? |
17:33.58 | Samot | Man, I cannot believe that all this time after PJSIP has been around people are still asking if they need PJSIP capable phones or settings for their providers. |
17:35.19 | Samot | Honestly though, even if PJSIP was named Chan_SIP2 those questions would probably still be asked. |
17:35.41 | Samot | "SIP 2.0!!!!" |
17:35.53 | Samot | Which, we already have anyways. |
17:42.15 | sibiria | isn't pjsip just another SIP "engine" doing, fundamentally, the same as chan_sip normally does? |
17:50.17 | fauxalliance | s/engine/stack yes and no |
17:51.24 | fauxalliance | pjsip has more nat agile foo |
17:51.32 | fauxalliance | read the RFC's |
18:01.28 | Samot | It's SIP |
18:01.31 | Samot | Yes. |
18:01.41 | Samot | It may do things better/more than Chan_SIP |
18:01.53 | Samot | But there are other SIP stacks that do things as well |
18:02.20 | Samot | If you connect your Asterisk server to BroadWorks, it has it's own SIP Stack |
18:02.27 | sibiria | is deprection planned for chan_sip? |
18:02.32 | Samot | It doesn't care if you use Chan_SIP or Chan_PJSIP. |
18:02.48 | Samot | Chan_SIP is not longer the focus of development for Asterisk |
18:03.00 | Samot | It's not going away anytime soon but PJSIP is where development is going to be based. |
18:03.15 | sibiria | so there's a point in reading up on pjsip, i take it |
18:03.20 | Samot | Polycom phones doesn't care if it's PJSIP or Chan_SIP |
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18:18.42 | fauxalliance | Avaya phones do care... |
18:18.55 | fauxalliance | irrelevant |
18:22.49 | Samot | If you want to proprietary, sure. I'm talking about the SIP Standards/RFC, the think you like to go on about. |
18:23.00 | Samot | s/think/thing/ |
18:23.29 | fauxalliance | Samot: i do like standards... unless the IETF has their hands in it |
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19:41.52 | cervajs2 | is it possible to configure multiple realtime backends for pjsip? |
19:47.50 | fauxalliance | silumtaniously? |
19:47.55 | fauxalliance | sp? |
19:48.41 | fauxalliance | i have two back ends with a heartbeat and a forward proxy.. so yes? |
19:49.26 | cervajs2 | yes. sumult. i.e. curl and odbc |
19:50.16 | fauxalliance | rsync and prayer? |
19:51.06 | fauxalliance | haast |
19:58.25 | cervajs2 | found ;example => odbc,asterisk,alttable,1 ;example => mysql,asterisk,alttable,2 |
19:58.29 | cervajs2 | will try |
20:04.56 | fauxalliance | s/odbc/SQL |
20:07.08 | fauxalliance | http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/software-technology/difference-between-odbc-and-sql-2/ |
20:10.10 | fauxalliance | does telephreak still do the friday conference call? |
20:17.59 | drmessano | You mean the VUC? |
20:23.17 | fauxalliance | ka4rap de vo1pbx, yes, k |
20:23.27 | fauxalliance | whatever |
20:23.37 | drmessano | Yeah there is still a VUC |
20:23.41 | fauxalliance | cool |
20:23.51 | drmessano | I havent listened in ages |
20:23.57 | fauxalliance | me neither |
20:24.02 | drmessano | Funny part is.. |
20:24.09 | drmessano | He started using these new tools |
20:24.19 | drmessano | New streaming options and whatever |
20:24.41 | drmessano | None of them worked for me either due to not having a linux option or something |
20:24.51 | fauxalliance | noted |
20:24.54 | drmessano | as soon as he started using some shit that did work, I got busy |
20:25.49 | fauxalliance | i had a sip uri on the polycom back in the day, and a DND on the phone/door |
20:26.08 | fauxalliance | i'll try to check in next week |
20:27.46 | drmessano | I think im gonna start a VoIP community on Telegram |
20:31.52 | dan_j | If I create a PJSIP endpoint for default outgoing dialling, do I only need to create the type=endpoint context, or do i need to create auth or aor to keep it secure? |
20:33.24 | dan_j | file: sorry to disturb. following on from my question yesterday... ^ ^ |
20:35.12 | file | if it needs outbound auth you'd need to create an outbound auth section, if you want it to not be used for inbound you can send it to a context that goes nowhere or use permit/deny lines to not allow anything to use it inbound |
20:38.04 | dan_j | if I dont need outbound auth, i can leave it out and it's still secure? |
20:38.20 | file | define secure... |
20:38.49 | file | if you do either of the two things I mentioned afterwards then nothing can use it inbound |
20:39.10 | file | otherwise you'll need to give context for your query |
20:39.21 | dan_j | If there is only an endpoint defined but no associated auth/aor, no unauthenticated inbound calls will be allowed through it |
20:39.46 | dan_j | ok. I'll just set the endpoint context to an empty context |
20:39.48 | dan_j | thanks |
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20:55.54 | fauxalliance | drmessano: signal private messenger is worth a look... telegram, as in 'this message willl self destruct.' |
20:56.00 | fauxalliance | ? |
20:56.14 | drmessano | I cant stand Signal |
20:56.22 | fauxalliance | i don't like soap |
20:56.24 | drmessano | It's just not user friendly for anyone |
20:56.36 | fauxalliance | drmessano: it's opus on whack |
20:56.39 | fauxalliance | agreeed |
20:56.51 | drmessano | Telegram is far more accessible |
20:56.56 | fauxalliance | but tor smells like onions |
20:57.10 | drmessano | ok? |
20:57.19 | fauxalliance | i'll install and play |
20:57.33 | fauxalliance | thanks for the reference and the VUC info |
20:58.21 | dan_j | Does anyone have experience with sipsak? How do you define the source port? |
20:58.29 | fauxalliance | and Signal Private Messenger works in Iran. |
20:58.56 | drmessano | I've got 15 coworkers on telegram now. Install was simple. I had considered the super-geeky approach and trying Signal, but it's UI sucks, and it's really hard to scale it to your other devices |
20:59.19 | drmessano | With Telegram i've got users with it on their desktops, phones, and tablets in minutes |
20:59.30 | drmessano | and you can use their username and not just phone number to find them |
20:59.37 | fauxalliance | drmessano: i'll play, but does it work in Persia |
20:59.46 | drmessano | Signal is kinda ironic in using phone numbers for discovery |
20:59.48 | fauxalliance | else; the onion router |
21:00.02 | drmessano | I dont understand how any of that affects me |
21:00.05 | fauxalliance | drmessano: agreed |
21:00.11 | drmessano | Iran? Persia? Who gives a fuck? |
21:00.44 | fauxalliance | drmessano: those whom wish to speek freely, as in Freedom. |
21:00.53 | drmessano | ok? |
21:01.24 | drmessano | I don't know anyone in those places, so it's not a limiting factor |
21:02.00 | fauxalliance | drmessano: privacy is everyones concern, regardless of locale |
21:02.10 | drmessano | ok? |
21:02.22 | drmessano | Ok look |
21:02.25 | drmessano | I fucking use it |
21:02.32 | drmessano | I dont care about everyone else on the planet |
21:02.35 | fauxalliance | i'll use it too, i said thanks |
21:03.00 | drmessano | So I dont really have any interest in engaging in an hours long religious argument about which apps are more secure |
21:03.04 | drmessano | Really.. I dont |
21:05.36 | fauxalliance | no argument, if telegram works, i'm elated... but if what you say could cost your life, let alone your job... for inconsequential chit-chat... |
21:06.06 | drmessano | Ok, im done |
21:06.23 | drmessano | wanders off |
21:46.10 | drmessano | fauxalliance: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/isis-telegram-app_us_59259254e4b0ec129d3136d5 |
21:46.47 | drmessano | Telegram was started by a Russian to provide privacy from Russian security services. ISIS seems to think it's secure enough for their operations |
21:47.13 | drmessano | So, I see your "losing your life and your job" and I raise you "Terrorists seem to think it's secure" |
21:47.18 | drmessano | Checkmate |
21:47.44 | fauxalliance | drmessano: if you really want to incite them, call them Daesh-Bags |
21:48.05 | drmessano | Not interested in inciting anyone |
21:48.33 | drmessano | Just making a point that it's good enough for terrorists and hiding from the Russians. |
21:48.43 | drmessano | That's good enough for me |
21:48.50 | fauxalliance | drmessano: no, but Grindr in Tehran get's you fucked more ways than one. I Said I installed telegram. |
21:48.53 | drmessano | Though it's 0% the reason I use it |
21:49.02 | drmessano | I dont care if you installed it |
21:49.15 | fauxalliance | wanders away |
21:49.16 | drmessano | You went on this rant about security and Iran |
21:49.30 | drmessano | Not sure why I am being trolled here.. never asked ANYONE to fucking use it |
21:49.32 | drmessano | So whatever |
21:49.36 | fauxalliance | no, privacy and reasonable expectation thereof. |
21:49.46 | Samot | He says on IRC |
21:50.12 | Samot | I take you do have a cell phone and if you do you don't talk on it in public? |
21:50.19 | Samot | *don't have |
21:50.21 | drmessano | I have no expectation of privacy |
21:50.34 | drmessano | If I want privacy, I have other means that don't include apps |
21:51.04 | fauxalliance | Samot: not since i picked up the tranny hookers on my sony trinitron on UHF 181 with the old AMPS network.. i prefer not to use a cell. |
21:51.06 | drmessano | I made one little statement |
21:51.07 | drmessano | 16:27:46 <drmessano> I think im gonna start a VoIP community on Telegram |
21:51.16 | drmessano | and it turned into this whole fucking thing about privacy |
21:51.43 | drmessano | JFC |
21:56.37 | Samot | Yeah well... |
21:56.48 | Samot | I'm going to the Drive-In tonight to see IT |
21:57.22 | fauxalliance | 3d? |
21:57.24 | drmessano | You're really gonna drive you car into a movie? |
21:57.32 | drmessano | That's really insecure |
21:57.45 | fauxalliance | drmessano: he lives in detroit |
21:57.51 | Samot | No. I don't. |
21:57.57 | drmessano | He doesnt |
21:57.58 | Samot | I said I was *from* Detroit. |
21:58.04 | Samot | I never said that's where I lived. |
21:58.15 | fauxalliance | Samot: fair enough, tough enougj |
21:59.28 | drmessano | Samot: Does the movie use Tor and PKI over SLDAPS? |
21:59.29 | Samot | However, I have informed my wife that during the second feature I'll just be on my phone. |
21:59.33 | fauxalliance | anyways, IT in 3d should be shityourpants cool at any venue, drive in (they still have projectionists union?) or imax |
21:59.44 | Samot | Because, Annabel: Creation. |
21:59.49 | Samot | And...blah |
21:59.58 | drmessano | Does Annabel use SLDAPS? |
22:00.05 | Samot | I hope not |
22:00.09 | Samot | I wouldn't mind it getting hacked. |
22:00.23 | Samot | Modern day horror movies just don't cut it. |
22:00.29 | Samot | Well most of them. |
22:00.45 | drmessano | Oh ive been working on an upgrade to SLDAPS |
22:01.04 | drmessano | It's DTLS-SLDAPS (AKA Good Luck Motherfucker, ROFL) |
22:02.01 | Samot | It was funny tho.. |
22:02.10 | Samot | Last week my kids say the premier.. |
22:02.17 | voipmonk | Popcorn brought to you by David Webb, drinks brought to you by Susan Mauldin |
22:02.30 | Samot | And when I picked them up they were comparing this version to the "original" |
22:03.06 | Samot | They mentioned something that wasn't in the original and they were like "I don't get why it was in the movie" |
22:03.13 | drmessano | voipmonk: Im gonna sell my stock in the company I created to sell DTLS-SLDAPS the day before it's announced that's snakeoil and 1000% hackable |
22:03.20 | drmessano | So I appreciate their example |
22:03.32 | Samot | And I was like "Well it's in the book. It is actually an important part of the story" |
22:03.40 | Samot | You read the book? |
22:03.54 | fauxalliance | drmessano: insider trading? |
22:04.13 | fauxalliance | the book is the -original- |
22:04.13 | drmessano | fauxalliance: Equifax.. it's been in the new for a week |
22:04.19 | fauxalliance | admin:admin |
22:04.20 | drmessano | fauxalliance: Equifax.. it's been in the news for a week |
22:04.21 | fauxalliance | yep |
22:04.34 | voipmonk | couldn't help it with all the security chit chat |
22:04.49 | drmessano | voipmonk: Unintended secruity chit chat |
22:04.59 | Samot | And boom your dead. |
22:04.59 | drmessano | voipmonk: Unintended security chit chat |
22:05.02 | Samot | you're |
22:05.59 | fauxalliance | Samot: +1 grammar point |
22:06.22 | Samot | Yeah.. |
22:06.40 | Samot | I kind of focused on learning one language pretty well instead of being inept in multiple. |
22:07.04 | drmessano | I've watched 3 communities die this week, or basically get no reprieve from an expiration date due to hardware attrition, largely due to arguments from 10% over the other 90%'s choice to use some modern platform |
22:07.22 | Samot | ?? |
22:07.30 | fauxalliance | apple users choose android? |
22:07.55 | drmessano | That basically never happens |
22:08.00 | Samot | Which ones? |
22:08.39 | drmessano | A LUG, a group dedicated to IP network over Amateur Radio, and a broadcast community |
22:08.56 | voipmonk | you'll dual boot very soon, drink some Cider in the meantime. |
22:09.00 | drmessano | No Facebook, no Slack, no Groups.io, no Google Groups, nada. |
22:09.20 | drmessano | All "too insecure and they steal your fucking life" |
22:09.50 | drmessano | "Mailman or die" or worse, they chose some shit platform like MeetUp and dont want to pay now that prices went up |
22:10.02 | drmessano | Because everyone is a fucking elitist |
22:10.08 | drmessano | Im so sick of it |
22:10.09 | Samot | Yeah. |
22:10.32 | Samot | I love watching people spin their wheels over "security" |
22:10.43 | Samot | And the complex web they try to weave.. |
22:10.51 | Samot | To be "Secure" |
22:11.13 | Samot | I swear if someone suggests "Don't use 5060 or standard SIP ports and you'll be good" as a solution again... |
22:11.15 | Samot | No.. |
22:11.18 | Samot | You won't |
22:11.33 | Samot | Because that "security" measure is 10+ years old |
22:12.03 | Samot | Everyone that wants your PBX |
22:12.11 | Samot | Is checking those "non-standard" ports |
22:12.39 | drmessano | In a nutshell |
22:13.21 | drmessano | That thing you're overly paranoid about.. you don't need. If you think you need it, you should give up the other thing that IS sucking all your information that you're gonna argue "Well, it's just that one thing" |
22:13.32 | drmessano | Selective douchbaggery |
22:13.45 | Samot | Every time I make a post in the FreePBX forums about "I'm 100% in the 'cloud' and i don't get hacked with simple security logic' I get flooded with messages of how I do it. |
22:14.03 | Samot | Generally by other providers |
22:14.29 | drmessano | I've thwarted ALL SIP attacks or the last 4 years with my simple firewall rules |
22:14.34 | drmessano | for* |
22:14.40 | drmessano | Not had one fill my logs |
22:14.48 | Samot | But it's *simple* |
22:14.51 | drmessano | Not had one last more than a couple lines of log |
22:14.52 | Samot | So how can it work? |
22:14.56 | Samot | That doesn't make sense? |
22:15.10 | Samot | That's where they are so lost when they want to know things |
22:15.14 | drmessano | It has to use SLDAPS and fails2work |
22:15.42 | Samot | Well then you say things like "Do you have customers in China?" |
22:15.43 | Samot | "No" |
22:15.49 | drmessano | PPTP over SIPS over IPSEC for my grandmas home phone |
22:15.52 | Samot | "Why is it opened to China IPs?" |
22:15.54 | drmessano | GMAFB |
22:15.55 | Samot | "Oh, good point" |
22:16.19 | Samot | There are parts of the world that are known for trying to rape your PBX/servers |
22:16.30 | Samot | Why isn't step one, block those d-bags. |
22:16.41 | drmessano | Equifax got hacked because of not patching Apache |
22:16.47 | Samot | Dude |
22:16.51 | drmessano | But they force users to use 5 layers of auth |
22:16.53 | Samot | Just because it's EOL |
22:16.57 | drmessano | and they didn't patch |
22:16.57 | Samot | Doesn't mean it stops working |
22:17.23 | Samot | I mean why should I update? |
22:17.25 | Samot | It works |
22:17.36 | Samot | Who cares if it's not patched..or getting bug fixes |
22:17.39 | Samot | or security fixes |
22:17.47 | Samot | It hasn't stopped wor....oh shit |
22:17.55 | drmessano | Besides |
22:18.08 | drmessano | All my devices use SLDAPS over TLS over Bitcoin |
22:18.14 | drmessano | IM secure as fuck |
22:18.30 | Samot | And you never need a back of your 6TB of data. |
22:18.36 | Samot | +up |
22:18.37 | drmessano | ROFL |
22:18.59 | Samot | "Well I have a rsync'd server for failover" |
22:19.11 | Samot | "So what happens when you rsync that data corruption over?" |
22:19.14 | Samot | "......." |
22:19.40 | Samot | Anyways.. |
22:19.47 | Samot | Time to drive-in to the movies |
22:20.07 | drmessano | Have fun.. be sure to TLS-SLDAPS everything |
22:20.54 | Samot | Well wont they all be surpised when i make it a 3d experience |
22:21.07 | drmessano | HAH |
22:38.01 | sibiria | is it possible to make a relative goto? that is, jumping either to next prio, or jumping two prios ahead |
22:38.09 | sibiria | (in the dialplan) |
22:39.06 | drmessano | You want GotoIf |
22:39.21 | sibiria | yes but i still want to do a relative jump |
22:40.06 | drmessano | You want one prio or a completely different one |
22:40.13 | drmessano | Depending on a condition |
22:40.32 | sibiria | depending on a condition i want to either move on to next prio, or jump over the next prio |
22:40.39 | drmessano | GotoIf(condition?label1:label2) |
22:41.10 | sibiria | labels? i don't use AEL, just plain dialplans with 'n' prio |
22:41.17 | sibiria | can i define labels still? |
22:41.22 | drmessano | This isn't AEL |
22:41.25 | drmessano | It's DIALPLAN |
22:42.09 | sibiria | "just plain dialplans with 'n' prio" |
22:42.16 | drmessano | https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Application_GotoIf |
22:42.40 | sibiria | yes, i'm aware of it. it doesn't specify how to define a label |
22:42.45 | sibiria | nor if it's possible to make a relative prio jump |
22:43.04 | sibiria | the keyword is RELATIVE to the current prio |
22:43.06 | drmessano | Read the page I pasted |
22:44.54 | sibiria | i know how both goto and conditional goto works. what i don't know is if it's possible to define a lanel for an unnumbered priority (n), or if it's possible to say 'current prio + 2 ahead' |
22:45.23 | drmessano | You can define a label for an unnumbered priority |
22:45.29 | drmessano | Thats the point of LABELS |
22:45.35 | sibiria | how is it done? |
22:45.56 | drmessano | same => n(monkeys),Playback(tt-monkeys) |
22:46.28 | sibiria | n(label), that's what i was looking for. thanks |
23:14.49 | *** join/#asterisk joako (~joako@opensuse/member/joak0) |
23:29.58 | Samot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dIKfMxmM/irccloudcapture1780500065.jpg |
23:30.22 | drmessano | Is that encrypted to Iranian standards? |
23:30.35 | drmessano | Asking for a friend |
23:32.09 | Samot | Its someones farn |
23:32.12 | Samot | Farm |
23:32.29 | Samot | Theres a campground...nbq srand |
23:32.30 | Samot | Stand |
23:32.40 | Samot | Bbq |
23:33.13 | drmessano | Is the BBQ open source? |
23:35.39 | Samot | Yes |
23:35.52 | Samot | BBQOSS |
23:37.23 | drmessano | You know what's a good wood for smoking BBQ? |
23:37.35 | drmessano | ð wood |
23:38.54 | Samot | Yes |
23:39.04 | Samot | Man this place is packed |
23:45.42 | Samot | So do radio stations let drive in "borrow" airwaves? |
23:46.31 | Samot | Because the audio for the movies is over a local FM station |
23:48.11 | drmessano | lol |
23:48.22 | drmessano | Part 15 |
23:48.32 | Samot | ?? |
23:48.37 | drmessano | At least that's the US.. Canada has something similar |
23:49.02 | Samot | So they let it? |
23:49.02 | drmessano | Less than 250mw and antenna less than x feet in length, completely legal |
23:49.10 | Samot | Ok |
23:49.23 | drmessano | Not sure what Canadas rules are, but similar |
23:49.25 | drmessano | AM and FM |
23:49.42 | drmessano | Thats how traffic information stations on AM work |
23:49.43 | drmessano | No license |
23:49.50 | Samot | So i can take the signal |
23:49.59 | Samot | For my small radius |
23:52.49 | drmessano | wow |
23:52.57 | drmessano | USA is 250uv |
23:53.02 | drmessano | Canada is 1000uv |
23:53.10 | drmessano | That's nuts |