IRC log for #asterisk on 20170901

00:00.54TheGallopingFoxand the base
00:10.42twitchnlnany cisco guys in here ever setup rotary phone on fxs port, anyone know if its possible?
00:11.41[TK]D-Fenderdepends on the interface
00:11.46[TK]D-Fenderobviously
00:12.01[TK]D-Fenderit's a phone
00:12.07[TK]D-Fenderthe only question is signalling
00:12.28revealDoes this mean firewall or permissions(for sockets) issues?
00:12.30revealchan_sip.c:4263 __sip_reliable_xmit: Serious Network Trouble; __sip_xmit returns error for pkt data
00:14.21[TK]D-Fendercould be firewall blocking you from sending out
00:14.38[TK]D-Fenderit could be a global failure of the SIP stack due to a screwup in port assignment
00:14.50[TK]D-Fenderit could be because it's asked to send to an impossible destination
00:14.54[TK]D-FenderI'm betting on #2
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02:19.56twitchnlnD-Fender-- 4fxs-did can and will :-)
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02:59.59KNERDI have compiled , installed, and entered ldconfig for  Iksemel, then ran the configure for Asterisk 14, but chan_motif still has XXX in the selction in menuselect. Suggestions?
03:16.37KNERDthough, I did hear  pjsip jas a similar module which can do the same as iksemel
03:24.46SamotThis isn't for Google Voice is it?
03:26.51SamotBecause Google shut down third party XMPP connections in June.
03:26.59SamotSome may lag out there, but it's done.
03:27.05SamotGV is google only now.
03:27.15SamotHangouts, etc.
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03:49.50KNERDSamot: Well they said that, but it still functions
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03:57.07SamotLike I said, some may lag.
03:57.19SamotBut  it's not something I would put trust in.
03:59.10KNERDit stopped working, then * foks pathced it
03:59.21KNERDso it's been workign for me for couple of years now
03:59.44SamotBack in Feb. Google announced EOL stuff
03:59.54SamotGoogle Voice was on the list for June 26th
04:00.09SamotWhen it would start being shut down and stopping third party XMPP connections
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04:00.30SamotWorking previous years has no bearing on future.
04:00.42KNERDI think they announced something similar back in 2014
04:01.02SamotI'm just letting you know.
04:01.25KNERDyeah, but till then just wanted to get chan_motif functioning
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04:01.42SamotWell that's something I can't help with. I've never used it.
04:01.50KNERDokay
04:01.57MajesticFudgieIs there any reason a phone would ring when it's not connected o-o
04:01.59SamotI was just give information so you can base a choice on it
04:02.12SamotWhat do you mean "not connected"?
04:02.32MajesticFudgieIt's not connected to the SIP server
04:02.33SamotYou mean not registered to Asterisk or not on a network?
04:02.40SamotBut it's on a  network?
04:02.52MajesticFudgieIts on the network but not connected to asterisk.
04:02.53SamotAnd that network is connected to the Internet?
04:03.00MajesticFudgieYet I got a call from 1004@myhomeip
04:03.03MajesticFudgieyeah
04:03.12SamotThen your network is being scanned
04:03.16KNERDvery common
04:03.18SamotPhones listen on ports
04:03.23MajesticFudgieAh
04:03.25SamotFix your firewall
04:03.26MajesticFudgieWhat ports?
04:03.26KNERDyou can disable that
04:03.30SamotFix your firewall
04:03.38SamotSomeone is probing your network
04:03.44KNERDin some phones there are setting for acctping calls only from trusted sourcs
04:03.50SamotOK
04:03.57SamotThat doesn't fix the bigger issue
04:04.16SamotThe network is being scanned
04:04.19SamotSo someone is in it
04:04.45MajesticFudgiehow they're in I dont know as the firewalls pretty tight except for certain common ports
04:04.59SamotAre those certain common ports open to everyone?
04:05.09SamotAnd do they need to be open to everyone?
04:05.29MajesticFudgieOpen to everyone, but closed now
04:05.41SamotIs the PBX local?
04:05.43MajesticFudgieWere only Minecraft iirc and nother
04:05.46SamotOr is it hosted somewhere?
04:05.49MajesticFudgieyeah all my phone stuff is internal
04:05.59MajesticFudgieAsterisk on my home server and phone on the same network
04:06.05SamotSo there is no need to have it open to the world for SIP
04:06.14MajesticFudgieIt's not
04:06.22MajesticFudgieThe firewall doesnt allow SIP in
04:06.30SamotThey are ringing your phones
04:06.33MajesticFudgieIt'll ofc let outgoing via asterisk and such
04:06.33SamotYou know how they do that
04:06.37Samotthey send an INVITE
04:06.48MajesticFudgieHow the invite go in I dont know
04:06.53MajesticFudgiegot*
04:07.07MajesticFudgieThe firewall is tight on all ports except a few which I've now removed
04:08.26SamotThis is common place.
04:08.53SamotThey will trying to scan the network for SIP devices by sending OPTIONS and/or INVITEs to see if the INVITE will be passed
04:09.11MajesticFudgieBut how would they scan the network if the firewall is tight?
04:09.13SamotThey also see if they can then get to the phones GUI or other management
04:09.18SamotI don't know
04:09.22SamotWhat ports did you have open?
04:09.31KNERDUsually they use a program called "SIP Vicous" . On some phones there is a " Allow IP Call" you can turn off
04:09.32MajesticFudgieRight now none, but I did have 25565 open
04:09.51SamotAnd it's deny all otherwise?
04:09.55MajesticFudgieyes
04:10.00MajesticFudgieIt's using my ISP's firewall
04:10.08SamotPerhaps they got in that way, who knows.
04:10.11SamotBut they were in.
04:10.13MajesticFudgiethat comes with the router, configured via gui
04:10.33MajesticFudgieWould be nice if I had logs of anything but I don't sadly
04:14.45MajesticFudgietried sipvicious on my network now and it found nothing
04:19.16KNERDi guess you closed it off then
04:20.22drmessanoThis phone isn’t registered to some provider ?
04:20.58MajesticFudgieNo its a polycom pointed to my asterisk server on a home server
04:21.13MajesticFudgieand turns out my phone has a web gui, changed the password from default but I doubt anyone got into it
04:21.26drmessanoOdd. You’ve never configured it to work with some provider?
04:21.51KNERDif your PBX availabel through the network?
04:22.03drmessanoI ask because of it’s regged to some outside host, ISP routers sometimes don’t randomize ports
04:22.15drmessanoSo they use 5060 for the NAT
04:22.18MajesticFudgiePhone -> Asterisk -> SipGate
04:22.30drmessanoUh
04:22.35drmessanoThat explains it
04:22.37MajesticFudgieAsterisk is connecting to sipgate through the firewall and sipgate would report the number
04:22.49MajesticFudgieThe phone number as 1004@my.ip.here
04:22.52drmessanoYour router isn’t using random ports
04:22.55MajesticFudgiewhere my.ip.here is my external ip
04:23.27drmessanoYou need to disallow anonymous sip
04:23.54drmessanoAnd or replace the router
04:24.07MajesticFudgieLatter I can't do
04:24.13MajesticFudgieand disable anonymous sip on what?
04:24.25KNERDi bet just turning off Anonymous SIP calls will do it
04:24.25drmessanoThe PBX
04:24.27KNERDyoru PBX
04:24.34KNERDin SIP settings
04:24.51drmessanoIs this a FreePBX box?
04:25.19MajesticFudgieNo
04:25.23drmessanoDidn’t think so
04:25.28MajesticFudgieI'm running Asterisk on a home server
04:25.31drmessanoSo no “sip settings”
04:25.32MajesticFudgiewhich connects to SipGate
04:25.38drmessanoYes we know
04:25.44MajesticFudgieany configuration I can do is directly in the asterisk configs
04:25.51drmessanoRight
04:25.52MajesticFudgieNot bothered with any gui crap
04:26.00drmessanoSo it’s allowguest I believe
04:26.34KNERDthen why asking about all that in FreePBX?
04:26.39MajesticFudgieWhat cfg would that be in?
04:26.51drmessanosip.conf
04:27.09drmessanoKNERD
04:27.20drmessanoFFS
04:27.24drmessanoWrong channel
04:27.33KNERDallowguest=no
04:28.09KNERDin the [general] settings
04:28.09drmessanoHe's not in the wrong channel, YOU are
04:28.19KNERDoh...heh...
04:28.26KNERDI am in righ tchannel.
04:28.35drmessanoThis is #asterisk
04:28.41KNERDI was thinking this was FreepBX
04:28.47drmessanoWe know
04:28.53MajesticFudgiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25442948/
04:29.08MajesticFudgieThats my sip.conf pretty much, removed any passwords and other stuff thats irrelevant
04:29.58MajesticFudgieeh I left a password in but it's useless without my other details
04:30.02drmessanoAre you saying allowguest was set?
04:30.07drmessanoor you just added it?
04:30.18MajesticFudgiethats how it was all set
04:30.24MajesticFudgieI've not touched the config in months
04:31.19SamotThe INVITE never touched the PBX
04:31.26SamotIt went straight to the phone.
04:31.40MajesticFudgieHow it got to the phone I really dont know
04:31.46SamotNor do I
04:31.51SamotI am telling what happened
04:31.56MajesticFudgieI know
04:32.24drmessanoSomething opened that port
04:32.28KNERDtry sipvious from the outside
04:32.33drmessanoThis sounds like a shitty NAT issue
04:32.38MajesticFudgieI have KNERD, it turned up nothing
04:32.42KNERDyou can try alwaysauthreject=yes
04:32.45drmessanoLike the phone poked a hole
04:32.47SamotYou were probed like a redneck during an abduction.
04:32.53KNERDin that same GENERAL section
04:32.55MajesticFudgieSamot lul
04:33.09SamotKNERD
04:33.13MajesticFudgieKNERD I doubt it came through asterisk I checked logs and found nothing
04:33.21SamotAgain, that is a band aid
04:33.32SamotThe call never touched the PBX to begin with
04:33.34MajesticFudgieLast thing in the logs was asterisk regaining connection as I've been working on sorting my home network
04:33.46SamotThis isn't something an Asterisk setting is going to fix
04:33.54SamotThis is something a proper firewall is going to fix
04:34.00drmessanoI missed the part about it being the one phone only
04:34.02drmessanoSo year
04:34.04drmessanoSo yeah
04:34.07SamotYeah, I figured.
04:34.08drmessanothe phone
04:34.13MajesticFudgieWell I have a softphone on my pc
04:34.15drmessanoWell
04:34.19MajesticFudgieWhich never got affected
04:34.22SamotFFS.
04:34.23SamotRight
04:34.36SamotYour PC probably has a firewall
04:34.38KNERDusualy you can see anonymous calls hitting a CDR if you have it set up
04:34.38SamotIt's Windows
04:34.42drmessano99.999% of the time this happens, it's because a phone is connected to an outside peer through a shitty nat
04:34.44Samot????
04:34.50SamotHow does that help this?
04:34.51drmessanoand it uses port 5060 and not some random port
04:34.58SamotThe INVITE went to the PHONE
04:34.59MajesticFudgieThe networks as secure as I can get it
04:35.01SamotNot the PBX
04:35.18drmessanoThe phone doesnt have a second account on it?
04:35.23drmessanoLike a backup to sipgate?
04:35.24MajesticFudgieWhat I'd like to know is why the call showed my outgoing ip
04:35.35MajesticFudgieRather than any other IP
04:35.40drmessanoThe phone doesnt have a second account on it?
04:35.44drmessanoLike a backup to sipgate?
04:35.46MajesticFudgieNo drmessano
04:35.55MajesticFudgieOnly one line is active
04:36.03MajesticFudgiethe other is named but isnt connected to anything
04:44.01MajesticFudgieI ran nmap on the sip phone
04:44.12MajesticFudgieIt has 80, 443 and 5060 open
04:44.21KNERDwell yes,
04:44.38MajesticFudgie80 and 443 are the gui
04:44.50MajesticFudgieIs 5060 _required_ or may there be an option to close it?
04:44.56drmessanoIt is
04:45.03KNERDyeah, if you dont want to receive calls on it
04:45.04drmessanoIt's SIP
04:45.08drmessanoYou kinda need it
04:45.28MajesticFudgieWell the Phone connects to SIP, wouldn't that be how it should recieve and place calls?
04:45.43drmessanoThe phone is SIP
04:45.52MajesticFudgieOr does it sit idle and Asterisk makes a connection to 5060 and tells it there's something going on
04:46.58drmessanoThis is basic IP networking 101
04:47.18MajesticFudgieSo 5060 is required for SIP to work and can be ignored?
04:47.29drmessanoCorrect
04:48.24MajesticFudgieOkie
04:48.51MajesticFudgieWell I don't think I can do much more, Firewall is locked down. Secured the web gui on the phone.
04:48.57MajesticFudgieSo it should be fine now
04:49.11drmessanoMaybe
04:49.15drmessanoBut I have my doubts
04:49.24drmessanoI mean, this can only occur certain ways
04:49.43MajesticFudgieWell what else can I do?
04:49.56MajesticFudgieThe firewall is set to deny all incoming on all ports and only allow outgoing
04:49.58drmessanoAnd everything has been an exercise in confirming you had things set up in a certain way, which you do..
04:50.06drmessanoand already did
04:50.14drmessanoSo you still have no idea what it was
04:50.17drmessanoJust what it wasnt
04:50.17MajesticFudgiemhm
04:50.43MajesticFudgieThe phone doesnt even show a log of the phone number since I restarted the phone. Nor has it rang since restart
04:51.07drmessanoSomething on your firewall was open to 5060 on that phone
04:52.32drmessanoThats the troubling part
04:52.44MajesticFudgie5060 was open but pointed to a dead ip
04:52.50drmessanoThats why I asked about having a connection to another peer somewhere
04:52.57MajesticFudgieWhich shouldn't allow it anywhere but that dead ip
04:53.19drmessanoOk that takes care of 5060
04:53.24drmessanoOn the firewall
04:53.34drmessanoBut again
04:53.37drmessanoSomething on your firewall was open to 5060 on that phone
04:54.04MajesticFudgieWell, no idea what was as only one IP had 5060 open and it /was/ asterisk but the ip changed
04:54.58drmessanoOn the firewall
04:55.05MajesticFudgieYes
04:55.20drmessanoThats not entirely important
04:55.48MajesticFudgieWell other than that its closed down. But I've even removed that so nothings open at all
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04:56.02drmessanoWell
04:56.08drmessanoNothing is "Forwarded"
04:56.15drmessanoThere are ports OPEN all day long
04:57.01drmessanoI just dont see how a random port was open to 5060 on a phone
04:57.21MajesticFudgieSame
04:58.09drmessanoThe phone registers to your private IP address?
04:58.17drmessanoIt wasnt hairpin'ing to the external IP?
04:58.35MajesticFudgieIt should't be able to
04:58.44MajesticFudgieits config has it set to just connect to asterisk
04:59.20drmessano.....
04:59.29drmessanoI asked a very specific question
04:59.43drmessanoBy "ASTERISK" you mean the "Private IP"
04:59.47drmessanoRight?
04:59.50MajesticFudgieyes
04:59.55drmessanoI asked for steak or fish and you told me potato
04:59.56drmessanoOk
05:00.05MajesticFudgieWell you asked if its "hairpin'ing"
05:00.06drmessanoI dunno then
05:00.08MajesticFudgienever heard the word
05:00.34drmessanoPhone connecting your Asterisk box using the external IP which routes back in through the NAT
05:00.52MajesticFudgieShouldn't be possible
05:00.53drmessanoWhich would hit all the firewall rules
05:01.12drmessanoIts not about being possible.. it about what you have configure
05:01.13MajesticFudgieThe phone was pointed to 192.168.2.204 which is currently a dead ip
05:01.14drmessanoIts not about being possible.. it about what you have configured
05:01.17drmessanoOk
05:01.45MajesticFudgieBut even then the call skipped Asterisk, when I answered I got silence
05:01.50MajesticFudgieAs creepy as that is
05:02.03drmessanoNo, ive seen this a lot
05:03.48MajesticFudgieOh well, guess I'll just have to wait for it to ever happen again and hopefully get a log from the phone
05:04.10drmessanoThere wont be really anything to see
05:04.22drmessanoBut
05:04.26drmessanoIf it does happen again
05:04.37MajesticFudgieWell it may be helpful in finding where it came from and such
05:04.45drmessanoWell no
05:04.51MajesticFudgieAs right now I'm going off what I saw on the screen and what happened
05:04.51drmessanobecause the phone wont have any idea
05:05.00MajesticFudgieThe phone may have logged attempts though?
05:05.03drmessano"A call hit my listen port.. RING RING"
05:06.24drmessanoWhat kind of router is this?
05:08.11MajesticFudgieBT Home Hub 5
05:10.02tuxd00dSpeaking of routers… have you had an issue with an Ubiquity router assigning the same NAT ports to phones?  I have one location that has a dozen phones, but in Asterisk they show up as 8 unique ports.  But their phones work with Vonage without issue.
05:11.00drmessanoMajesticFudgie: HA
05:11.02drmessanoYeah
05:11.04drmessanoWell
05:11.24drmessanoIm 95% certain we had someone with this same issue
05:11.29MajesticFudgieinb4 router calling me to tell me to pay my bill on time
05:11.32drmessanoDue to lack of port randomization
05:12.39drmessanoBut different in that it was a single phone and indeed it was regged to a hosted Asterisk box
05:12.57drmessanoand THAT router used 5060 for the pinhole in the NAT
05:13.29tuxd00dI have not idea how to fix it. I’m still learning the EdgeMax command line.
05:14.13MajesticFudgieWierd
05:14.28MajesticFudgieI'll just unplug the phone before I get some sleep and deal with it later
05:15.21tuxd00dI was going to go back and try using TLS. Perhaps it doesn’t like UDP.
05:15.35drmessanoMajesticFudgie: You can try one thing
05:15.51MajesticFudgieStabbing it through the heart with a wooden stake?
05:15.54tuxd00dMajesticFudgie: I missed the issue you are having with your phone.
05:16.03tuxd00dMajesticFudgie: Always a sure way to fix it.
05:16.07drmessanoChange the LISTEN port, which is usually just the "Port" setting on the line, to something other than 5060
05:16.11drmessanoMake it 5070
05:16.15MajesticFudgieIn the phone?
05:16.18drmessanoYep
05:16.24tuxd00dI had one location where I had to set each phone to a different listen port
05:16.37drmessanoJust move it off of 5060
05:16.49drmessano5070 is a common choice
05:16.53tuxd00dThat as for a PFSense
05:17.18tuxd00ds/as/was
05:17.59MajesticFudgieI'll see if I can change it
05:18.04drmessanoOh you can
05:18.09drmessanoIt's in the GUI
05:18.23tuxd00dWhich phone?
05:19.09MajesticFudgieIt's a Polycom Soundpoint 331 iirc
05:19.25drmessanoThere's a shiny box for Port
05:19.30MajesticFudgieah I think I sorted it
05:19.45MajesticFudgieNetworking -> NAT -> Signalling port
05:19.55drmessanoCool
05:20.00MajesticFudgiechanged it to 5070, nmap doesnt see 5060 anymore on the phone
05:20.19drmessanoSo that may be a good enough forever band-aid
05:20.38MajesticFudgieyup 5070 is now open instead
05:21.38tuxd00dYou can use sngrep to watch the conversation
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05:22.17MajesticFudgieah
05:22.21MajesticFudgieI'll look into it tomorrow
05:22.26MajesticFudgieI think for now it should be sorted
05:23.57drmessanoRight
05:24.57drmessanoBesides, there's nothing to watch
05:24.58MajesticFudgieAnyway I need to get some sleep. Thanks for helping me out guys :)
05:25.03drmessanoNP
05:25.05drmessanogood luck
05:25.12tuxd00dGood luck
05:26.26MajesticFudgieTy
05:26.29tuxd00ddrmessano: do you know if there is a way to show NAT mappings on the Ubiquity EdgeMax?
05:26.53drmessanoNo, I literally avoid Ubiquiti gear
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05:28.27tuxd00dEverybody seems to love a their own certain brand… and avoid the others.  Back in the day, PFSenses was the all the rage. Now it’s the plague.
05:28.50tuxd00dWhat do you like to use?
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05:28.57drmessanoMikrotik
05:29.05drmessanoUbiquiti quality has taken a slide
05:29.08tuxd00dDid I ask you that before?
05:29.14drmessanoNo clue
05:29.37tuxd00dOr are you the second one to suggest Mikrotik?  I hear good things about them.
05:30.06drmessanoI have Ubiquiti APs at work, which I bought before I discovered MT a few years ago
05:30.12drmessanoNot only are they awful
05:30.23drmessanoBut I am sad now that I don't have MT stuff there
05:30.31drmessanoBut all my side work is Mikrotik stuff
05:30.39drmessanoRouters and APs
05:30.43tuxd00dUBNT APs don’t work well?
05:31.09drmessanoThe controller is terrible, the firmware has been russian roulette with updates
05:31.15tuxd00dI have a location where the Cisco APs don’t work well, and I was thinking of using UBNT… but now…
05:31.48drmessanoI wouldnt even touch a UBNT router.. People keep discovering major bugs that they havent fixed but known about for years
05:31.54drmessanoLike this UDP thing I keep hearing about
05:32.15drmessanoand
05:32.52drmessanoFor NOW I am using a WISP for connectivity to a few of my sites.. THEY have UBNT gear.. and even they are pulling their hair out over radios dying all over the place
05:33.02drmessanoSo apparently they are having issues
05:33.09drmessanoand aint nobody got time for that
05:33.34tuxd00dBut MT has been good for you?  How is availability in US?
05:33.40*** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (~joe@64.235.216.2)
05:33.51drmessanoAvailability is great
05:34.00drmessanoThey have so many distributors
05:34.07drmessanothe best distributors
05:34.10drmessanoBigly ones
05:34.14drmessanoBut really
05:34.21drmessanoAvailability is not a problem
05:34.35drmessanoI know a few guys that buy units by the hundreds.. no issues
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05:35.23drmessanoTheir product line has evolved MASSIVELY in the last few years, as well
05:35.28drmessanoLike nothing I have seen
05:35.43drmessanoThey're becoming a major player here now
05:35.50drmessanoand already are across the world
05:37.23dethadrmessano: fwiw, I feel the same, but with the brands swapped around. Tik has been breaking firmware badly lately, SNMP MIBs suddenly changing, funnies with fastpath, etc
05:37.25tuxd00dPricing looks really attractive
05:38.36drmessanodetha: They've been making MASSIVE changes lately too
05:38.50dethaTrue. Too many changes, too fast
05:38.54drmessanoLike development has been in overdrive for at least a year
05:39.04drmessanoThere's a lot of work to be done
05:39.14drmessanoLike the new bridging logic
05:39.27dethain maybe two or three years it might stabilize, but for now I stay away from it
05:39.40drmessanoWell whatever
05:39.47drmessanoI dont see it as unstable at all
05:39.59tuxd00dSo … the consensus is… all brands have their faults?
05:40.06drmessanoI can deal with minor regressions
05:40.10drmessanoWhat I cant deal with
05:40.17drmessanoIs installing new controller software
05:40.20drmessanoand new firmware
05:40.27drmessanoand performance going in the shitter
05:40.37dethaEither brand will work, if you get a working config, and leave it alone. Hardware quality is about the same
05:40.44drmessanoSO I have to get on the forums and find a "safe" version for my hardware
05:41.19drmessanoUAP AC Pro was the worst $800 I have ever spent... and that was including my 2nd divorce
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05:41.47tuxd00dI just need one that can handle VoIP traffic well.  VLAN, QoS, PoE, etc..
05:42.03drmessanoMT is fine for that
05:42.12tuxd00dMy first divorce cost more than a house in attorneys fees.
05:42.29drmessanoSomething as simple as an RB750Gr3 can run a medium sized office
05:42.35drmessanoand not even break a sweat
05:43.09drmessanoHell I have an RB750Gr3 at work for just network monitoring
05:43.15drmessanoCan run The Dude on it
05:43.35tuxd00dFor most locations, they want new hardware… they are using running 10/100 non-qos dinosaurs. So new router, switch and APs.
05:43.53tuxd00dWhat is The Dude.. I was just noticing that in their product listing.
05:43.54drmessanoWell
05:44.05drmessanoIt's a network monitoring app
05:44.15drmessanoBut well integrated into ROS too
05:44.17drmessanoFor example
05:44.25drmessanoYou can put a MT at a branch office
05:44.38drmessanoand it becomes a relay for a central Dude Server
05:44.55drmessanoSo it actually acts as the monitor and reports back to the central Dude
05:45.32drmessanoBut to be clear
05:45.44drmessanoIt's not OpenNMS or Zabbix or something
05:46.17drmessanoIt's basically built for monitoring your network devices
05:46.24drmessanoAPs, Switches, routers
05:46.46drmessanoBut hell it does have some nice SNMP capabilities
05:47.05drmessanoand will monitor common services like NetBIOS ports, FTP, HTTP, etc
05:47.34drmessanoSo I monitor 50 or so workstations, all my switches, routers, APs, and some other appliances
05:47.54drmessanoI've not taken a deep dive into the SNMP capabilities, but it's all there
05:48.09tuxd00dAwesome, I was looking for a product line that I can centrally manage.
05:48.25drmessanoSo my suggestion
05:48.34drmessanoGet an RB750Gr#
05:48.35drmessanoGet an RB750Gr3
05:48.41drmessanoGet a HAP Lite AC
05:48.48drmessanoThats basically a MT lab in a box
05:48.53drmessanoFor $100
05:48.58drmessanoLater on
05:49.16drmessanoYou can upgrade the RB750Gr3 to a 3011 for The Dude
05:49.36drmessanoor even the big day $300 2011 Dude Edition
05:49.40drmessanoor even the big daddy $300 2011 Dude Edition
05:50.05drmessanothe WAP ACs are nice for APs
05:50.18drmessanoThey have something called CAPSMAN for central AP configuration
05:50.28tuxd00dI’m having trouble locating the RB750GR3 on their site.
05:50.32drmessanoSo you can manage all of a sites APs from one place
05:50.58drmessanohttps://mikrotik.com/product/RB750Gr3
05:51.01drmessanoIts the Hex
05:51.12tuxd00dOhh, awesome.
05:51.44drmessanoLook at the specs on that little bastard
05:51.44tuxd00dMost locations have about 100 devices, 40-50 of which are phones.
05:52.00drmessanoRB750 should be perfect for that
05:52.23drmessanoIf you look at the specs
05:52.26drmessanoIt's a small box
05:52.32drmessanoBut packs a LOT of punch
05:52.43tuxd00dThat’s what I hear.
05:52.43drmessanoAs in
05:52.48drmessanoLook at the other boxes
05:52.51drmessanoLike the HAP AC
05:53.02drmessanoWhich IS a wireless router
05:53.05drmessanoand quite nice
05:53.18drmessanoBut the specs as far as being a "router", not so much
05:53.31drmessanoIt's a good branch or home device though... I have several
05:53.33tuxd00dI don’t like the AP’s built into the router.  Most of the time, the router is located in a closet away from the office.
05:53.51drmessanoOk, so the RB750Gr3 is gonna be your best bet
05:53.56tuxd00dAnd a jack of all trades is a master of none.
05:54.31tuxd00dAnd I can centrally monitor the RB750GR3, or do I need a larger unit?
05:54.41drmessanoYou can
05:54.58drmessanoAll of the boxes have a full ROS L4 license
05:55.02drmessanoSo they do it all out of the box
05:55.22drmessanoFrom the $20 box to the couple thousand dollar boxes
05:55.27drmessanoSame ROS
05:55.29drmessanoSame license
05:56.11drmessanoIf you want a pretty rack unit for your central monitoring, I would upgrade to a 3011 at some point
05:56.18drmessanoBut like I said
05:56.30drmessanoI run an RB750 for all my network monitoring
05:57.13drmessanoI have 100 or so endpoints in there now
05:57.13drmessanoand it doesn't crack 10% CPU
05:58.21tuxd00dA really appreciate the help drmessano.
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06:12.49tuxd00dHave any of you used a Peplink Max Cellular router?
06:14.13tuxd00dThey’re suppose to be good with VoIP traffic.
06:14.36tuxd00dAt least they advertise as such.
06:15.11drmessanoSo I dont want to sound like I own stock in the company
06:15.13drmessanoBut
06:15.21drmessanoFirst, do you need the Wifi part?
06:15.34drmessanoI googled for the box
06:15.49drmessanohttps://3gstore.com/product/5618_pepwave_max_br1_3g_4g.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqPec2KqD1gIVGlYNCh3mWQQiEAYYASABEgIz8PD_BwE
06:15.52drmessanoIs that it?
06:16.12tuxd00dNope, just the SD-WAN with a cellular link part
06:16.38tuxd00dYep, that is one version of the MAX line.
06:16.41drmessanoWell back to the stock in the company part
06:16.57drmessanoRB750Gr3 + a USB Aircard
06:17.01drmessanoWorks great lol
06:17.13tuxd00dDoes it do SD-WAN?
06:18.19drmessanoI've only heard of SD-WAN as a broader term.. What is the specific need?
06:18.42tuxd00dI was originally going to do the USB air card route… but the Peplink looks really nice as it can route only VoIP traffic over the SD-WAN…. for “unbreakable” VoIP .. aka “No dropped calls”
06:19.05tuxd00dKeeping the cellular costs down.
06:20.05drmessanoAre you saying it alleges handoff across network changes?
06:20.05tuxd00dIt keeps a connection open on both the broadband and the cellular, and sends packets over cellular when the broadband is gone or lagging.
06:20.55tuxd00dYou have to have an aggregator on the other end, which can simple be a AWS EC2, for example.
06:21.05drmessanoI cant even begin to see how that works with VoIP.  The path is going to change.
06:21.26tuxd00dTo Asterisk the IP is always the same.
06:21.48tuxd00dKind of like a VPN.
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07:22.55[sID]It is possible for my own connection status to be issued?
07:23.21[sID]eg: 501 "max limit"
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07:42.01tuxd00d[sID]: Are you asking if you can set the SIP response code?
07:48.18[sID]yes
07:48.38tuxd00dcore show application Congestion
07:49.22tuxd00dI think that is as close as you can get with Asterisk.  Kamailio would typically be used to set custom response codes.
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07:54.48[sID]ok thx
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12:41.07DanQuinneydan_j: initial observations seem to point our issue with dropped packets to a set of MySQL backups running on the * servers
12:43.29dan_jDanQuinney: ok, sounds like a different issue to mine then
12:43.52dan_ji'm not dropping packets, it just taking asterisk 10 seconds to respond to REGISTERs and INVITEs every so often
12:43.57dan_jon multiple servers
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13:00.36dan_jthanks for the update though
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13:56.50Samot8:43:48 AM <dan_j> i'm not dropping packets, it just taking asterisk 10 seconds to respond to REGISTERs and INVITEs every so often <-- If they're not dropping packets and taking that long to respond, what is the load like on those systems?
13:58.35SamotAnd when you say 10 seconds to respond, do you mean it takes 10 seconds from the moment the device is up for the REGISTER to hit Asterisk? Or are you saying once Asterisk gets the REGISTER it takes 10 seconds for the 401 challenge to be issued?
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14:09.55DanQuinneySamot: if I can jump in? We're seeing similar to dan_j
14:10.04DanQuinneyhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TL2l7gYE/options.pcap
14:10.14SamotOK
14:10.19SamotSo the questions apply to you
14:10.54SamotWhere is the delay?
14:10.56DanQuinneyyes, * receives the OPTIONS request, then 40 seconds later sends the 200 OK
14:11.14SamotAnd what is the load like?
14:11.20dan_j10 seconds from the moment the packet hits the server for asterisk to process it and output a reply.
14:11.38dan_jLow load
14:11.44DanQuinneyminimal load Samot
14:11.51dan_jFriday is always quieter but its still continuing.
14:11.52Samot"low", "minimal"
14:11.56SamotThese are vague.
14:12.00DanQuinneylet me get the graphs
14:12.01SamotWhat is the load like?
14:13.08dan_jgtjoseph: has suggested i do a coredump during an outage to see if anything is locked up. I need to wait till the weekend to recompile and perform a dump. Problem is performing a core dump will result in a longer outage.
14:13.17DanQuinney0.10 - 0.43
14:13.52SamotOn how many cores?
14:14.12dan_jSamot: only 20 channels were open at the last outage. Ive supported over 100 with the same config. And its happening on all my asterisk boxes.
14:14.17dan_j4 core
14:14.20SamotOK
14:14.22SamotGuys.
14:14.30dan_j20 to 30% cpu
14:14.39SamotI'm going to give you some serious professional advice.
14:14.45SamotGet off PJSIP.
14:14.51SamotIt's not prime time for providers.
14:15.30dan_jI thought about that but its not practical to switch back to chansip as that doesnt support binding to multiple specific ip addresses while leaving others out.
14:15.44SamotOK.
14:15.59SamotIf that is really, really, really a show stopper for you....
14:16.08SamotThen "somewhat stable" is your status.
14:16.29SamotYour customers can sit through you making issue reports and hammering out PJSIP issues with Digium.
14:17.08dan_jBut i get where you are coming from. Its just annoying that ignoring the 'qualify' issues, its been very stable. This is a new issue that appeared and i'd like to understand it rather than just working around it.
14:18.13dan_jAnd there is no guarantee that chansip will resolve this.
14:20.33Samot*cough*me*cough*
14:20.39SamotI AM running chan_SIP
14:23.27SamotBetween my network and another ITSP's network I manage, I've got over 100+ Asterisk/FreePBX servers going.
14:23.32SamotAll running Chan_SIP
14:23.45SamotI am not seeing these issues.
14:24.51dan_jI understand that you arent having issues but if my issue is a network one then chansip may not help
14:25.16SamotThey are hitting the servers
14:25.27SamotOnce they are on the server, the server takes X seconds to process request
14:25.43dan_jYou are going under the assumption that its a pjsip bug. It could be a dns issue or something
14:25.43SamotThis is like driving to the corner store
14:25.51SamotRound trip is should take 10 minutes
14:26.00SamotBut once you are in the store and there is a huge line...
14:26.03SamotIt takes 20 minutes
14:26.11SamotThe traffic part was fast
14:26.16SamotThe processing part was slooooow
14:26.35SamotAre you see the servers have any other slow responses?
14:26.37SamotSTMP?
14:26.41SamotSMTP
14:26.44SamotMySQL?
14:26.56SamotAnything else on the server running with delays?
14:27.01SamotOr just Asterisk/SIP?
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14:28.03dan_jJust asterisk. All the other servers in that datacentre seem to be running normally. However that could be that they aren't as time sensitive.
14:31.33SamotI don't mean other servers.
14:31.41SamotI mean other services on the Asterisk box.
14:31.48SamotIt's sending emails I'm sure
14:31.57SamotAnd doing other things for stuff running.
14:32.00SamotAre those having issues?!
14:32.12SamotDo you see a delay with SMTP communications?
14:32.40SamotDo you see a delay in performance any where else on that server outside of the Asterisk service?
14:33.37SamotWhen Asterisk has its periodic fits, does the rest of the system take a piss as well?
14:35.40dan_jI wouldnt notice a 10 second smtp delay
14:35.52SamotHave you looked?
14:36.02SamotYou're having delays on the system..
14:36.08dan_jNo other issues showing in the logs. Pacemaker is able to run sipsak without a problem
14:36.09SamotHave you confirmed they are not system wide?
14:36.29dan_jSystem wide on multiple machines would be highly unusual.
14:37.10SamotSo yeah, you're right..
14:37.12SamotIt could be DNS
14:37.15SamotIt could be the network
14:37.22SamotBut so far everything that's been done..
14:37.26SamotDoesn't point to those.
14:37.31dan_jYep
14:37.34SamotIt points to an issue with Asterisk.
14:37.39SamotAnd most likely PJSIP.
14:37.59SamotEven file said yesterday PJSIP hasn't been exposed to certain environments that much
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14:38.08SamotSo yeah, you could be discovering issues that no one else would have.
14:39.43dan_jOk. I surrender. I'll move back to chansip if I can.
14:40.57SamotWell..
14:41.06SamotI'm not trying to beat you into submission.
14:41.22SamotI'm just giving the counter arguments
14:49.05dan_jTruth is, if the coredump reveals a bug, it might take months for a fix.
14:49.35dan_jI need this fixing today, so the simplest option for me is chansip as i can do that
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14:58.50SamotSucks but probably the best option.
14:59.44SamotI'm not like "yay I won" on this..
14:59.55SamotIt sucks, it's going to be a lot of work and headache
14:59.59SamotI feel for ya.
15:01.39DanQuinneymanaged to get a lock file from when the "pause" happens - I'll open up an issue shortly https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gI5COq7H/
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15:05.24cervajs2what is good way to pass json i.e. { "sales":"1", "support":"2" } as argument to AGI? if i use AGI(agi://localhost/jsonParse,${web_query}) its not complete in agi_arg1 . howto escape arg?
15:07.57hdonhi all :) is it possible to add custom headers to SIP requests and responses? is there a way to get that data into asterisk's CDR?
15:08.33hdonI understand that I can customize the fields in the CDR and use dialplan code to assign what goes into each field. So I guess my question is actually, is there a way to retrieve SIP headers from dialplan?
15:08.55SamotYou can get them from the INVITE
15:09.00SamotBut you can't get them after that
15:09.22hdonin the dialplan?
15:09.27SamotYes.
15:09.36hdonawesome :) how?
15:10.11SamotSeriously?
15:10.14Samothttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+14+Function_SIP_HEADER
15:10.15hdonis it possible for dialplan to customize SIP headers when sending an INVITE?
15:10.17SamotCome on.
15:10.20hdonahhhh thanks :)
15:11.37revealHow easy is it to move extensions from 2 digits to 4 digits by adding leading 00's?
15:11.37hdonSipAddHeader might do it
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15:11.52hdonreveal, are you using an ordinary configuration file you edit by hand?
15:12.22hdonreveal, would you accept an easy way to edit your configuration file the way you describe?
15:12.35SamotWell are you using Chan_SIP or PJSIP
15:12.55SamotSIPAddHeader won't apply to PJSIP
15:13.01revealhdon: yes if it can be limited by specific extensions, and can update via console or gui
15:13.02hdonreveal, something like sed -i 's/^\([0-9]{2}\)\>/\100/' might do the trick if that's what you want
15:13.38revealhdon: this would also affect the users who login with a softphone and would need to be changed to reflect that right
15:13.45hdonSamot, i'm not using PJSIP. good to know this limitation.
15:14.26hdonreveal, sorry i was only thinking of extensions.conf -- for things like spi.conf and voicemail the same precise command won't apply
15:14.55hdonreveal, "affect users who login with a softphone" -- are you talking about provisioning configuration to your phones? my solution doesn't affect that.
15:15.21hdonreveal, do you run a TFTP server that provisions configuration for your phones?
15:15.28revealwell if user 20 was changed to 0020 i am going on a limb they won't be able to login to the softphone
15:15.37revealxlite
15:16.32hdonSamot, what about custom sip headers for the response to the INVITE? is that possible?
15:18.06hdonreveal, if you change your sip.conf file and change extensions there, peers trying to register with you will have to be changed as well
15:18.25revealwill this also screw with voicemail.conf?
15:18.49hdonreveal, mabye an option for you is to leave those phones on their existing extensions, and simply direct calls to their four digit counterparts to the corresponding two digit extensions?
15:19.09hdonreveal, what's motivating this endeavor? are you just trying to renumber your dialplan?
15:19.19Samothdon: You cannot do a response.
15:19.25hdonSamot, ok thanks :(
15:19.28Samothdon: That's not what Asterisk does.
15:19.40revealcurrently expanding so we didnt prepare with just 2 digits and didnt realize how big we got
15:19.49SamotIf you want to customize SIP messages during the transaction, you need a SIP router.
15:19.50revealso we thought moving to 4 would give more than enough room for growth
15:20.13revealis it simeple to keep the 2 digits there and create a forwarder for 4 digits?
15:20.40hdonreveal, okay so maybe you should just add to your dialplan something like, e.g. for extension 11, add to your dialplan: exten => 1100 s,1,GoTo(whatever) and redirect to extension 11
15:21.05hdonSamot, hmm... okay thanks
15:22.45SamotYou can set SIPHeaders for the INVITE of an outbound call
15:22.55revealhdon: thanks
15:23.04SamotAnd you can get the SIPHeaders from the INVITE of an inbound call
15:23.09SamotThat's it.
15:23.38SamotYou can't see the response, you can see new messages in the transaction...
15:23.41hdonreveal, yes that's what i'm describing now. just forward these 4 digit extensions to your 2 digit extensions. actually you could do it with only one line i believe. exten => _XX00,1,Goto(${CONTEXT},${EXTEN,0,2},1) ; IIUC
15:23.41Samoter can't.
15:23.59hdonSamot, does my dialplan recommend for reveal look good?
15:24.50SamotYeah
15:24.57SamotNo.
15:25.01hdon:c
15:25.03SamotWait..
15:25.08SamotThose should be :
15:25.13hdonohh right
15:25.18SamotIf you're trying to slice the extension.
15:25.29hdonreveal, exten => _XX00,1,Goto(${CONTEXT},${EXTEN:0:2},1)
15:25.37hdonSamot, yeah i was :)
15:26.02revealI see this effectively will answer if someone dialed 22 or 0022
15:26.49hdonreveal, sorry i did it for 2200 not 0022. you'll need to make a small adjustment
15:27.08hdonreveal, but yeah that should do it. just make sure you put this in the right context.
15:27.14revealyeah
15:27.15SamotI'll never get the desire for leading zero extensions.
15:27.25revealme either
15:27.29hdonreveal, or put it in its own context and include it from any context that needs this rule
15:27.37revealthats a great idea
15:28.04hdon:)
15:39.41hdonwhen i create a bridge with ARI, i can specify an ID for the bridge, right?
15:47.07SamotDude.
15:47.10SamotSeriously.
15:47.12SamotWIKI
15:47.28SamotYou are asking questions that are easily answered by reading the ARI section.
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16:26.27Bhakimihi guys! i was wondering what the best way to connect a dialplan that executes chanspy to another dialplan that plays a audio file
16:26.39Bhakimimy goal is to use chanspy to play a specific audio file to a extension
16:27.10Bhakimiso while the user is talking on the phone, i can play a prerecorded message to them on demand
16:27.24Bhakimiis that possible ?
16:28.04salviadudon demand, by some script maybe?
16:28.15Bhakimiyea, i already have the script
16:28.21Bhakimiim jsut not use how to do this
16:28.41Bhakimii use AMI for this
16:28.45Bhakimihere is a example ami web request: channel=Local/98765555-10-SIP-382@convoso&timeout=10&callerid=8304 <8304>&priority=1&context=100192&exten=8304&action=Originate
16:29.10Bhakimi98765555-10-SIP-382 is the dialplan, this takes the string and splits it and connects to it via chanspy
16:29.12Bhakimii know it works
16:29.39Bhakimibut i dont think i can call it like a local channel and connect it to extension 8304 which plays a audio recording
16:30.45[TK]D-Fender?
16:31.14[TK]D-Fender"connect to extension" is not a clear thing
16:31.28[TK]D-Fenderplease rephrase your request
16:32.11Bhakimiok
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16:32.41Bhakimii mean to connect it to a sip extension thats currently in a call
16:34.54Bhakimilet me try to explain better: so there is a sip extension say 382 that is currently in a call, i like to wispier to them a prerecorded message
16:38.29[TK]D-FenderBRIDGE is what you wnt to do
16:38.41Bhakimiyea
16:38.41[TK]D-Fenderyou want to BRIDGE to an CHANNEL already in progress
16:38.43Bhakimihow can i do that using ami?
16:38.47Bhakimicorrect
16:38.49[TK]D-FenderBridge <-
16:39.06Bhakimiim using astersik 11
16:39.18[TK]D-FenderOr actually ... technically chanspy does still dump audio to an existing call
16:39.24[TK]D-Fenderboth work
16:39.37[TK]D-Fender<Bhakimi> hi guys! i was wondering what the best way to connect a dialplan that executes chanspy to another dialplan that plays a audio file <- this already works
16:39.52Bhakimii tried but it doesnt =(
16:40.00[TK]D-Fenderthe idea works.
16:40.04Bhakimiyea i figured
16:40.10[TK]D-Fendermaybe your implementation doesn't, but the idea does
16:40.11Bhakimii think the issue is here: channel=Local/98765555-10-SIP-382@convoso&timeout=10&callerid=8304 <8304>&priority=1&context=100192&exten=8304&action=Originate
16:40.17Bhakimiso this is a ami request
16:40.19[TK]D-Fenderand you haven;'t shown us what yuo are actually doing
16:40.31[TK]D-Fenderthat AMI doesn't prove what the call DOES
16:40.40Bhakimi98765555-10-SIP-382 is a dialplan and so it 8304
16:40.52Bhakimilet me give you both dialplans
16:41.52Bhakimihttps://pastebin.com/K5XwGcuG
16:42.23Bhakimii basically want to send the 8304 dialpklan to the chanspy dialplan in order to acomplish this
16:44.15Bhakimi[TK]D-Fender: does that explain better?
16:44.41Bhakimisorry im the worst at explaining
16:47.52[TK]D-FenderShow us the call
16:48.44Bhakimihow can i show you the call?
16:48.50Bhakimii dont get what you mean by that?
16:49.16[TK]D-FenderDO IT
16:49.21Bhakimilol
16:49.25[TK]D-FenderPlace the call.  Show us your attempt to DO THIS
16:49.29Bhakimiok
16:49.30Bhakimi1 sec
16:49.43Bhakimiwhen i do this i dont see anything in asterislk which is the issue
16:49.52Bhakimithis request above that is
16:49.58Bhakimibut the original sip call i can show, 1 moment
16:50.13[TK]D-FenderIf you see nothing then the call isn't hitting the dialplan which means you have an AMI issue
16:51.24Bhakimihttps://pastebin.com/6fRAcrUr
16:51.38Bhakimithis is the original call
16:51.50[TK]D-Fenderall I see is some AGI
16:51.59Bhakimithe idea is to send the 8304 dialplan which plays a audio file to the sip extension 382
16:51.59[TK]D-Fenderyou showed some kind of WEB request before
16:52.10[TK]D-Fenderthis doesn;'t show may ANYTHING useful that lokos like it's even related
16:52.18Bhakimido you want the response of that request?
16:52.36[TK]D-FenderI don't see your ORIGINATE getting accepted anywhere
16:52.43Bhakimiok 1 moment
16:52.49[TK]D-FenderWhere do I see the CHANNEL get called?
16:52.57[TK]D-Fenderthat should create a local channel and thus dialplan execution
16:52.59[TK]D-Fenderit's not there
16:56.29Bhakimichannel=Local/98765555-10-SIP-382@convoso
16:56.41Bhakimithere ?
16:57.00[TK]D-FenderWhere in taht pastebin are you EXECUTING your request?
16:57.11[TK]D-Fenderhttps://pastebin.com/6fRAcrUr
16:57.25[TK]D-FenderI see no DIALPLAN executing there for the spy code you showed
16:57.29Bhakimifound the issue
16:57.31Bhakimithank you!!
16:57.36Bhakimiami was not authenticating
16:57.39[TK]D-FenderAnd in the diaplan part you did show I don't see the CONETXT name so I can't even prove where it exists
16:59.17Bhakimi@convoso
16:59.21Bhakimithats the context
16:59.37Bhakimiohh
16:59.39Bhakimidialplan
16:59.44Bhakimithat was jsut a snippet
17:00.00Bhakimibut you helped me figure it out, thank you for making me look for the ami response
17:00.01Bhakimi;)
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21:32.56Bhakimihi guys!!! is there a different way to play a audio file to a extension while its connected somewhere else besides using chanspy?
21:33.05Bhakimiim worried chanspy may cause high loads if called often
21:33.13Bhakimior possibly cause asterisk to have issues
21:36.36[TK]D-FenderYou fear this because .... ?
21:37.37Bhakimiwe have thousands of calls that we will do this with throughout the day maybe 20 a second and adding chanspy to do this with that volume concerns me
21:38.45[TK]D-FenderNo other method is going to be almost any different
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21:39.11[TK]D-FenderWhat is the trigger for you to begin those playbacks?
21:40.18Bhakimiwe have a call center platform and we send call to the agents confbridge they sit in, confbridge has a enter and leave sound which we used but when calls get connected they caller we connect into the confbridge sometimes hears this sound and knows its a telemarketer
21:40.57Bhakimiso what i did is have the script that throws these calls into confbridge send the call using a silent confbridge profile and at the same time i use chanspy to notify the agent with a alert so they know a call came in
21:42.15Bhakimiim worried that addtional canspy for every call we connect to the agents can cause load or unexpected asterisk issues which may resutl in a crash/deadlock or other unknown issues
21:45.21[TK]D-FenderYou can't go on the theory of "unexpected random nameless issues"
21:45.32[TK]D-FenderGo try and see if your load goes up or things start crashing
21:45.46[TK]D-Fenderyou have no evidence of failure or reasonable basis, and no provided details.
21:45.48[TK]D-Fenderthis is FUD
21:46.20[TK]D-FenderBridge is the only other tool and I don't see it being much different
21:46.28[TK]D-Fenderand you could clearly test and compare for yourself
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21:50.36Bhakimiwhats FUD ?
21:52.02rmudgettFear Uncertainty and Doubt
21:52.42rmudgettUsually spread by telemarkerters.  :)
21:55.38[TK]D-FenderOr anybody who say "I'm afraid I'll have nameless problems." with no basis
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22:03.23Bhakimiagreed ;)
22:03.46Bhakimi[TK]D-Fender: may i pm you?
22:05.14[TK]D-FenderFor?
22:05.49Bhakimiwas wondering if i can add you on skype or icq?
22:05.56Bhakimiif you have either
22:10.19[TK]D-Fenderno.  private contact is only for actual clients
22:13.34Bhakimihow can i become a client?
22:14.03Bhakimiim looking for asterisk support
22:14.30[TK]D-Fenderdepends what your needs are exactly.
22:14.35[TK]D-FenderThis you can PM me for.
22:14.39Bhakimik thx
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22:54.56Bhakimihi guys! so my server is a load of 2.0 with 32 cores, and as bandwidth increases int he box meaning we get more calls connected i seem to be getting a crazy amount of messages like these: chan_iax2.c:9983 socket_process_meta: Received trunked frame before first full voice frame
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22:55.19Bhakimii was wondering if anybody can give me some direction? i searched google but wasnt able to find anything that can help me fiure out the cause
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