00:00.04 | [TK]D-Fender | that too |
00:02.07 | _carmex | well i haven't tested inbound calling |
00:02.17 | _carmex | but, i did have everyrhing working on a different provider |
00:02.22 | _carmex | it just stopped when i swapped carriers |
00:06.02 | _carmex | so this problem is outbound only |
00:27.52 | *** join/#asterisk _carmex (~wsmith@173-31-142-124.client.mchsi.com) |
00:30.33 | lvlinux | does ${CHANNEL(endpoint)} exist with chan_sip, or just pjsip? |
00:31.25 | *** join/#asterisk mmlj4 (~mmlj4@47-48-196-90.static.gwnt.ga.charter.com) |
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01:00.34 | [TK]D-Fender | No, the problem is no "outbound only" |
01:00.40 | [TK]D-Fender | that calling IN to * is failing |
01:00.52 | [TK]D-Fender | endpoint = pjsip term |
01:01.04 | [TK]D-Fender | that's what peer is for in SIP |
01:01.08 | [TK]D-Fender | chan_sip that is |
01:02.26 | *** join/#asterisk phix (~threat@C-61-69-201-111.for.connect.net.au) |
01:23.24 | _carmex | i got extension to extension working |
01:23.25 | _carmex | :| |
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01:46.05 | *** join/#asterisk mahlon (~mahlon@martini.nu) |
01:47.07 | _carmex | [TK]D-Fender, still around? |
01:48.01 | [TK]D-Fender | for now |
01:49.07 | _carmex | no longer getting 404. nothing really changed |
01:49.14 | _carmex | getting 408 and 601 |
01:49.37 | _carmex | core restart now is the best way to "refresh" settings?" |
01:51.23 | _carmex | *603 |
01:52.42 | Samot | 408 is a timeout error |
01:53.17 | Samot | 603 is a declined |
01:54.53 | _carmex | that's what i'm reading |
01:55.00 | _carmex | but i'm not finding what causes that |
01:55.01 | Samot | Show it |
01:55.04 | Samot | ?pb |
01:55.07 | Samot | ~pb |
01:55.07 | infobot | pastebin is probably a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
01:55.10 | _carmex | one sec |
01:55.13 | Samot | Show the debug with these errors |
01:55.14 | _carmex | i think i have an idea |
01:55.29 | Samot | Before you do anything |
01:55.36 | Samot | Show what are getting now |
01:55.43 | Samot | +you |
01:58.36 | _carmex | https://pastebin.com/iNhARYpG |
01:58.41 | _carmex | i got the same |
01:58.44 | _carmex | both times |
01:59.14 | Samot | So you were wrong with both your errors |
01:59.19 | Samot | You said 408 and 601 |
01:59.24 | Samot | But you mean 480 and 603 |
01:59.24 | _carmex | 408 and 603 |
01:59.28 | Samot | No. |
01:59.30 | _carmex | 480* |
01:59.31 | _carmex | yeah |
01:59.42 | Samot | SIP/2.0 480 Temporarily unavailable <-- 480 |
02:00.14 | _carmex | okay, so i'm sitting here idling.. nothing is going on with either phone. and i'm getting random SIP messages from ext 201 to 202 ? |
02:00.50 | Samot | OK.. |
02:00.50 | Samot | So |
02:00.52 | Samot | Now. |
02:00.56 | Samot | Show a WHOLE call. |
02:01.11 | Samot | From the moment you dial from the phone to the moment you end the call. |
02:01.13 | _carmex | not sure what you mean. i copied everything |
02:01.17 | Samot | No. |
02:01.18 | _carmex | it ends by itself |
02:01.20 | Samot | There's no INVITE |
02:01.54 | _carmex | weird. so now my debug in the terminal is flooding |
02:01.56 | Samot | You might have to adjust your scrollback buffer so you have a bigger scrollback |
02:01.58 | _carmex | random extensions |
02:02.07 | Samot | You're exposed to the Internet |
02:02.14 | _carmex | from 7008 to 7008 |
02:02.14 | Samot | So people are jamming you |
02:02.17 | _carmex | oh |
02:02.24 | Samot | Like, lock down the PBX |
02:02.25 | _carmex | jokes on them. doesn't even work for me |
02:02.27 | _carmex | :D |
02:02.55 | _carmex | might be why i'm getting forbidden? for the flooding |
02:03.01 | _carmex | let me install iptables, one sec |
02:06.06 | [TK]D-Fender | no |
02:06.12 | [TK]D-Fender | That is all a waste of time |
02:06.22 | [TK]D-Fender | You're not even looking at your call |
02:06.41 | Samot | Well that's the thing. |
02:06.45 | Samot | I told him to get a new call.. |
02:06.55 | _carmex | atm i can't see anything but random extensions |
02:06.57 | Samot | And sip debug showed him being hammered now. |
02:07.02 | _carmex | ^ |
02:07.12 | [TK]D-Fender | https://pastebin.com/iNhARYpG |
02:07.16 | Samot | Right |
02:07.18 | [TK]D-Fender | You have debug for ONE STUPID PEER |
02:07.28 | Samot | 10:00:51 PM <Samot> Now. |
02:07.28 | Samot | 10:00:55 PM <Samot> Show a WHOLE call. |
02:07.28 | Samot | 10:01:11 PM <Samot> From the moment you dial from the phone to the moment you end the call. |
02:07.43 | [TK]D-Fender | You are not looking at the call going OUT |
02:07.46 | Samot | 10:01:54 PMÂ <_carmex>Â weird. so now my debug in the terminal is flooding |
02:07.49 | [TK]D-Fender | "sip set debug on" <- |
02:07.53 | Samot | FFS man |
02:07.57 | Samot | We just went over this |
02:08.06 | _carmex | that's what i typed |
02:08.07 | Samot | He went to turn it on again and he is being attacked. |
02:08.10 | [TK]D-Fender | No, it isn't |
02:08.17 | [TK]D-Fender | you restricted it to a peer/ip |
02:08.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Otherwise we see the shit after your DIAL |
02:08.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ^ |
02:08.28 | Samot | Then I can't see the WHOLE CALL |
02:08.31 | [TK]D-Fender | == Using SIP RTP CoS mark 5 |
02:08.31 | [TK]D-Fender | <PROTECTED> |
02:08.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Cause that other side WAS called |
02:08.41 | _carmex | i dont even k now how to do that .... that would make it easier |
02:08.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Packets were SENT |
02:08.55 | [TK]D-Fender | <[TK]D-Fender> "sip set debug on" <- |
02:08.56 | *** join/#asterisk u0m3 (~u0m3@5-12-122-119.residential.rdsnet.ro) |
02:09.02 | [TK]D-Fender | SHOW us you setting it and placing a new call |
02:09.03 | _carmex | that's the only command i used |
02:09.10 | [TK]D-Fender | nonsense |
02:09.13 | _carmex | i can't see anything now... it's being flooded |
02:09.16 | [TK]D-Fender | we'd have seen the INVITE * generated |
02:09.29 | [TK]D-Fender | I don't care what you thinkk your eyes see |
02:09.35 | [TK]D-Fender | grab MORE then you need |
02:09.35 | _carmex | lol |
02:09.37 | Samot | _carmex: Is this machine behind NAT? |
02:09.43 | _carmex | Samot, no |
02:09.58 | [TK]D-Fender | You are placing calls |
02:10.01 | [TK]D-Fender | We see them there |
02:10.11 | [TK]D-Fender | I don't care how much ELSE gets mixed in there |
02:10.19 | Samot | Dude, I don't want to sift through hackers attempting to make calls. |
02:10.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Refusing to look is flat out stupid and wasting everyone's time |
02:10.30 | [TK]D-Fender | I WILL sift though it |
02:10.40 | Samot | That's great. |
02:10.44 | Samot | It doesn't work now |
02:10.47 | Samot | It hasn't worked yet |
02:10.47 | [TK]D-Fender | I want someone to get their hands off their nuts and PROVE they are folling directions |
02:10.50 | [TK]D-Fender | and show a call |
02:10.52 | _carmex | i don't think you realize the amount of flooding i'm getting. i can't even scroll at the moment |
02:10.52 | Samot | So we can fix him from being raped. |
02:10.58 | Samot | Then we can get to the call. |
02:11.02 | [TK]D-Fender | you don't HAVE to scroll |
02:11.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Putty can capture the ENTIRE stupid buffer in TWO CLICKS |
02:11.21 | _carmex | enlighten me |
02:11.21 | [TK]D-Fender | without giving a shit about "scrolling" |
02:11.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Right click on the TITLE BAR > COPY ALL TO BUFFER |
02:11.40 | _carmex | boom |
02:12.34 | [TK]D-Fender | I expect to SEE the command being issued, a shit-tone of other crap, AND the complete call attempt in there |
02:12.40 | [TK]D-Fender | make sure your buffer is BIG ENOUGH |
02:13.36 | *** join/#asterisk thagreen (~cloudchas@ip68-102-50-198.ks.ok.cox.net) |
02:13.58 | thagreen | does anyone know anything about remote forwarding random numbers |
02:14.06 | thagreen | please msg me |
02:14.14 | Samot | What do you mean by that thagreen? |
02:14.15 | [TK]D-Fender | give a clearer description |
02:14.30 | [TK]D-Fender | "remote forwarding" and what is a "random number"? |
02:14.48 | thagreen | say a phone i dont physically have in my hand |
02:15.03 | _carmex | https://pastebin.com/QC0H9Hzm |
02:15.05 | [TK]D-Fender | "in your hand" isn't a "thing" |
02:15.14 | [TK]D-Fender | and what is "random number"? |
02:15.16 | thagreen | message me |
02:15.20 | drmessano | ROFL |
02:15.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Just type it HERE |
02:15.46 | thagreen | how can i forward a cell phone thats is not in my pocket house card whatever |
02:15.53 | thagreen | remote forwarding |
02:15.53 | [TK]D-Fender | If you can't use real words clearly here then yuo could be wasteing people's time PM'ing trying to get the SAME answers |
02:16.09 | [TK]D-Fender | If you're going to join a communications channel you should capable of communicating |
02:16.19 | thagreen | alright |
02:16.51 | thagreen | so remote forwarding a cell phone not in my possession |
02:16.56 | _carmex | my buffer is 20K lines...so hopefully that's enough |
02:17.04 | _carmex | ;) |
02:17.07 | drmessano | thagreen: You want to forward someone elses phone? |
02:17.13 | [TK]D-Fender | "sip show peer trunk" |
02:17.29 | thagreen | my wifes yes |
02:17.37 | [TK]D-Fender | thagreen, You don't get to do that |
02:17.40 | drmessano | Forward it where? |
02:17.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Noone gives you the power to fuck with other peoples phone's magically |
02:17.51 | thagreen | is there anyway possible to remote forward it to say a house phojnew |
02:18.03 | thagreen | using like a pbx service or something |
02:18.06 | [TK]D-Fender | No, it's THEIR phone |
02:18.07 | drmessano | thagreen: #1 This isn't an Asterisk anything |
02:18.16 | drmessano | #2 She can forward it from the phone |
02:18.18 | [TK]D-Fender | "PBX service" doesn't give you control over their phone |
02:18.19 | drmessano | Ask her to do it |
02:18.29 | [TK]D-Fender | My cell phone doesn't care about you |
02:18.30 | thagreen | never mind |
02:18.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Neither does hers |
02:18.37 | drmessano | never mind what? |
02:18.58 | thagreen | is there anyway possible to remote forward a cell phone |
02:19.10 | drmessano | thagreen: That's hacking, so no |
02:19.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Yes. Be a tech in the cell phone company <- |
02:19.20 | drmessano | thagreen: Ask your wife to do it |
02:19.26 | [TK]D-Fender | because that COMPANY controls where calls to her go |
02:19.26 | drmessano | From the phone |
02:19.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Or her on the phone |
02:19.42 | thagreen | your missing what im saying i guess |
02:19.47 | drmessano | Nope |
02:19.48 | [TK]D-Fender | You don't to remote control that any more than you get to remote control other driver's cars on the freeway |
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02:19.53 | drmessano | You want to forward it |
02:19.58 | drmessano | So go on the phone |
02:20.00 | [TK]D-Fender | You want to manipulate things you have no control olver |
02:20.01 | drmessano | and forward |
02:20.04 | thagreen | I DONT HAVE THE OPHONE |
02:20.06 | [TK]D-Fender | you can't trol random people's phones |
02:20.07 | thagreen | thats what your missing |
02:20.10 | thagreen | pay attentsion |
02:20.12 | drmessano | Im not missing it |
02:20.12 | [TK]D-Fender | I get that |
02:20.13 | drmessano | See |
02:20.20 | [TK]D-Fender | and you don't get that if you don't ahve the phone you' |
02:20.21 | drmessano | Im making a point |
02:20.22 | thagreen | yes you can |
02:20.24 | [TK]D-Fender | re FUCKED |
02:20.29 | drmessano | WE CANT HELP YOU HACK YOUR WIFES PHONE |
02:20.30 | thagreen | my partners done it |
02:20.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Go ask your partner |
02:21.07 | [TK]D-Fender | because there is no magic "make someone's cellphone do something" protocol or command stack out there for Joe Blow |
02:21.07 | Samot | _carmex: <--- Reliably Transmitting (no NAT) to 185.22.155.15:5074 ---> |
02:21.07 | Samot | SIP/2.0 603 Declined |
02:21.15 | [TK]D-Fender | otherwise you could fuck EVERYBODY'S lives up |
02:21.17 | Samot | _carmex: Your provider is declining the call. |
02:21.30 | thagreen | you have to forward certain ports or something |
02:21.38 | drmessano | ROFL |
02:21.40 | _carmex | Samot, could that be because of the flooding? i read it was a decline from the provider...but idk why it would be declining |
02:21.42 | drmessano | Dude, no |
02:21.49 | drmessano | Forward ports? |
02:21.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Joe blow does *NOT* get to randomly impose his will over someone else's cell phone |
02:21.51 | Samot | thegreen: You have to forward the number from the CARRIER |
02:21.59 | Samot | In a cell phone's case. |
02:22.05 | [TK]D-Fender | thagreen> you have to forward certain ports or something <- cell phones don't HAVE "ports" |
02:22.31 | Samot | thagreen: You have to have access to the phone number account in some way to do this. |
02:22.37 | _carmex | [TK]D-Fender i think the new pixel has a usb-c port |
02:22.44 | Samot | thagreen: Which means the password/PIN |
02:22.53 | [TK]D-Fender | _carmex, <[TK]D-Fender> "sip show peer trunk" |
02:23.05 | _carmex | [TK]D-Fender idk what that means |
02:23.08 | [TK]D-Fender | _carmex, he doesn't POSSESS the phone |
02:23.10 | Samot | thagreen: Do not PM me. |
02:23.16 | Samot | I did not ask you to. |
02:23.18 | _carmex | [TK]D-Fender i was joking about the port |
02:23.28 | [TK]D-Fender | _carmex, It means type the line into * CLI |
02:23.32 | Samot | If I wanted to speak privately to you I would have take your offer on a PM. |
02:23.33 | _carmex | gotcha |
02:23.34 | _carmex | one min |
02:23.57 | _carmex | [TK]D-Fender, "peer trunk not found" |
02:24.06 | [TK]D-Fender | <PROTECTED> |
02:24.08 | Samot | thagreen: I don't think you understand. I'm agree with the others. You cannot do what you want. |
02:24.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Then what's this junk you're Dial()'ing? |
02:24.24 | Samot | thagreen: While there may be a way to do it, it crosses lines I do not cross. |
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02:26.08 | _carmex | Samot, i am now not getting a failed call. it's just hanging on "calling" |
02:26.13 | Samot | _carmex: What extension are you dialing from? |
02:26.22 | Samot | What did you assign the device? |
02:26.24 | _carmex | Samot, 202 |
02:26.26 | Samot | OK |
02:26.27 | [TK]D-Fender | [TK]D-Fender> Then what's this junk you're Dial()'ing? |
02:26.28 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^ |
02:26.43 | Samot | Remember that part where I said his system was being attacked. |
02:26.45 | Samot | And it wasn't secure |
02:26.50 | Samot | So it's LETTING IT ALL IN |
02:26.50 | [TK]D-Fender | irrelevent |
02:26.56 | Samot | That's ALL The crap |
02:27.03 | [TK]D-Fender | His dialplan isn't working because he's dialing shit that he didn't DEFINE |
02:27.05 | [TK]D-Fender | ^ |
02:27.08 | Samot | OK. |
02:27.14 | [TK]D-Fender | I don't give a shit how much other crap is happening |
02:27.17 | _carmex | i'm just dialing random local numbers |
02:27.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Why do HIS dials fail? |
02:27.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Because he fucked up |
02:27.31 | _carmex | true dat |
02:27.42 | [TK]D-Fender | DIALING A PEER HE NEVER DEFINED |
02:27.56 | [TK]D-Fender | So ... why did you put "trunk" there when you didn't DEFINE it? |
02:28.05 | _carmex | however, the same config worked on the prior carrier? nothing has changed |
02:28.15 | [TK]D-Fender | <PROTECTED> |
02:28.29 | [TK]D-Fender | You don't HAVE a peer named [trunk] |
02:28.41 | [TK]D-Fender | So "it worked before" must have bee ANOTHER CONFIG FILE |
02:28.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Becaus that shit doesn't EXIST right now |
02:29.18 | [TK]D-Fender | <_carmex> [TK]D-Fender, "peer trunk not found" |
02:29.26 | [TK]D-Fender | It's. Not. There. |
02:29.39 | [TK]D-Fender | And that's YOUR dial command. You put whatever you have in there |
02:30.27 | _carmex | weird |
02:30.32 | [TK]D-Fender | No. |
02:30.34 | _carmex | i'll just change it to 202 |
02:30.39 | [TK]D-Fender | There's nothing "wierd" about this |
02:30.46 | _carmex | i beg to differ |
02:30.50 | [TK]D-Fender | You have a Dial() to call something you never defined |
02:31.02 | [TK]D-Fender | There is no [trunk] |
02:31.06 | [TK]D-Fender | you are trying to dial it |
02:31.13 | [TK]D-Fender | that is a stright up fail |
02:31.22 | [TK]D-Fender | +a |
02:31.49 | [TK]D-Fender | -- Executing [2024561212@from-internal:3] Dial("SIP/202-00000005", "SIP/+2024561212@trunk" <- "202" isn't going to make [trunk] magically exist |
02:32.28 | _carmex | but that's what it's called in sip.conf? |
02:32.37 | Samot | _carmex: Please shoe your sip.conf |
02:32.45 | Samot | Mask _any_ secrets only. |
02:32.52 | Samot | ~pb |
02:32.53 | infobot | well, pastebin is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
02:34.47 | _carmex | ok |
02:34.48 | _carmex | one sec |
02:34.50 | [TK]D-Fender | <_carmex> but that's what it's called in sip.conf? [trunk] |
02:34.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Or it would be .. if it EXISTED properly |
02:35.09 | [TK]D-Fender | YOU should have made that. |
02:35.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Why are you asking? |
02:35.18 | [TK]D-Fender | You don't seem to have a clue what you are DIALING |
02:35.24 | [TK]D-Fender | You need to serious go read the book |
02:35.40 | [TK]D-Fender | You don't know where any of the basic sections belong or how they interact |
02:35.53 | _carmex | that's why i asked you <3 |
02:36.06 | [TK]D-Fender | You don't get to shove arbitrary stuff into your dialplan and expect it to know what to do |
02:36.24 | [TK]D-Fender | You skipped all of the "learning" part |
02:36.42 | [TK]D-Fender | and we shouldn't be explaining that part. that's what guides including that free book are for |
02:37.34 | [TK]D-Fender | The same as walking into a C++ programming channel writing purly invented syntaxand asking why it doesn't work, never having read the basics |
02:37.50 | [TK]D-Fender | " I typed a word ... what should it mean?" |
02:37.54 | [TK]D-Fender | NOT a good start |
02:38.22 | _carmex | Samot, https://pastebin.com/ymN9AR0X |
02:39.26 | _carmex | [TK]D-Fender, we'll be the best of friends when this is all over |
02:40.06 | Samot | _carmex: 1) That is the most convoluted trunk for Flowroute I have ever seen. |
02:40.19 | Samot | 2) You do not have a peer actually called [trunk] |
02:40.22 | [TK]D-Fender | That TRUNK you shoved in your dial means nothing |
02:40.27 | [TK]D-Fender | and you can't explain why it's there |
02:40.45 | _carmex | accurate |
02:41.11 | Samot | You do not need all that crap |
02:41.40 | [TK]D-Fender | If you don't know how to to call Dial then you have real problems |
02:41.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Go read the book and read Dial()'s instructions |
02:41.52 | Samot | Not even Flowroutes outdated Asterisk samples are that complex. |
02:41.54 | _carmex | i've been kind of frankensteining it over the last couple of days from flowroute support articles |
02:42.02 | Samot | Dude |
02:42.09 | Samot | They have a sample config |
02:42.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Don't sit in the driver's seat and ask "what's a brake"? |
02:42.14 | Samot | Right there in your portal |
02:42.22 | Samot | Linky link right with your creds and shit. |
02:42.24 | _carmex | yeah, but when it didn't work i opened a ticket |
02:42.28 | Samot | OK |
02:42.32 | Samot | Your trunk is insane |
02:42.34 | [TK]D-Fender | You're copying random things you're clearly not doing the homework to understand |
02:42.41 | [TK]D-Fender | And since that's the level of commitment here.... |
02:42.43 | Samot | And you're calling on the wrong peer name in your Dial string |
02:42.44 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm out. |
02:43.10 | _carmex | right, so i changed it in the dialplan |
02:43.12 | _carmex | to 202 |
02:43.24 | Samot | Why would you dial 202 from 202? |
02:43.37 | Samot | The trunk name is flowroute-trunk |
02:43.39 | Samot | Not trunk |
02:44.31 | Samot | Change your dial string that you want to go out to Flowroute from @trunk to @flowroute-trunk |
02:44.49 | _carmex | okay, i did that and now it's getting the dialtone and failing |
02:45.01 | Samot | But you need to do some serious looking at that machine |
02:45.13 | _carmex | getting hammered atm |
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02:45.32 | Samot | There is no point in making that trunk work |
02:45.42 | _carmex | machine*CLI> sip show peer flowroute-trunk |
02:45.42 | _carmex | Peer flowroute-trunk not found. |
02:45.43 | Samot | When you are opened like a trailer park prom date |
02:45.57 | _carmex | lol |
02:48.45 | Samot | At this point, you make that trunk work and it can send out calls... |
02:48.53 | Samot | And you have nothing really in place for the rest... |
02:49.00 | Samot | You're just asking for trouble. |
02:49.15 | Samot | https://github.com/asterisk/asterisk/blob/master/configs/samples/sip.conf.sample |
02:49.22 | Samot | ^^^ Go read it |
02:49.29 | Samot | That has all the settings for peers |
02:49.32 | Samot | What they do |
02:49.46 | Samot | Examples for trunks, dial strings, device peers |
02:51.55 | _carmex | cool |
02:51.56 | _carmex | thanks |
02:52.06 | _carmex | i've been looking for something like thois |
02:52.08 | _carmex | *this |
02:52.35 | Samot | The install instructions for Asterisk cover the "make samples" option |
02:52.57 | Samot | Which creates all samples for all the configs. |
02:53.11 | Samot | What you were just lined to |
02:53.14 | Samot | What you were just linked to |
02:55.40 | _carmex | ugh. it just completed a call. and now it won't again |
02:57.52 | _carmex | call established \o/ |
03:00.33 | _carmex | thanks Samot |
03:00.56 | lorsungcu | np |
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03:58.08 | iheartlinux | I have one peer connected via chan_sip, my provider (flowroute). 5060 is not open. I am able to call in. Is this because the peer is registering to my provider, and establishing a route that way? |
03:59.08 | lorsungcu | iheartlinux: that is correct |
03:59.17 | lorsungcu | although calling it a 'route' is misleading |
03:59.48 | iheartlinux | what would be the proper term? |
04:00.02 | lorsungcu | your router is hanging onto that connection started by the registration, and subsequent messages are replied to on the port it NATs to |
04:00.30 | lorsungcu | route is sort of reserved for a route. what you're doing is NAT. |
04:01.45 | iheartlinux | I don't have nat turned on in chan sip. My server is on a VPS with a public ip. My end devices are connected via vpn'ed/pjsip |
04:02.08 | lorsungcu | are you using freepbx? |
04:02.21 | iheartlinux | vanilla asterisk |
04:02.37 | iheartlinux | 13.15.1 |
04:02.49 | lorsungcu | 'turning nat on' implies your PBX is behind NAT. |
04:03.02 | lorsungcu | you aren't, so you don't need it |
04:03.35 | lorsungcu | whatever you're using as a firewall evidently has an established/related rule, and that's handling this. |
04:04.18 | lorsungcu | same concept without the layer of NAT |
04:04.50 | iheartlinux | shorewall, no 5060 is off. flowroute is using ip (not sip reg) |
04:05.19 | lorsungcu | you just said it was registering. |
04:05.28 | lorsungcu | goes homwe |
04:06.08 | iheartlinux | well, it is a peer |
04:06.47 | iheartlinux | or friend rather |
04:07.33 | drmessano | That's still a peer |
04:07.49 | iheartlinux | I know |
04:08.13 | drmessano | There's no such thing as a SIP 'friend' |
04:10.12 | iheartlinux | well, it's set to "type = friend" |
04:24.18 | iheartlinux | ok, so I changed my provider to peer, which ofc required opening 5060. Just trying to fully understand asterisk, thanks |
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04:31.30 | snadge | asterisk14 is the bees knees |
04:31.51 | snadge | well not really, but it works with our crusty old agi code.. amazing ;) .. last functioning version was 11 |
04:32.07 | snadge | theres a few little side cases, but i dont particularly feel like investing effort in a legacy platform |
04:32.14 | snadge | thats probably going to be replaced by freeswitch |
04:32.18 | snadge | (not my choice) |
04:32.35 | drmessano | I guess you lost me |
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05:23.05 | [TK]D-Fender | <iheartlinux> ok, so I changed my provider to peer, which ofc required opening 5060. Just trying to fully understand asterisk, thanks <- no |
05:23.09 | [TK]D-Fender | that has nothing to do with anything |
05:25.30 | iheartlinux | type peer sends calls correct? |
05:25.34 | iheartlinux | [TK]D-Fender: |
05:25.45 | [TK]D-Fender | BOTH |
05:31.58 | iheartlinux | it didn't work correctly without opening port 5060 (outgoing was fine, incoming was not). If I had type set to friend, asterisk created both a user & a peer for my provider. which allowed for bi-directional comm. My provider is sending my DID's vi IP. So opening port 5060 with [type = peer] allowed for bidir |
05:35.30 | [TK]D-Fender | if your port isn't open then packets aren't making it in |
05:35.36 | [TK]D-Fender | that is regardless. |
05:36.01 | [TK]D-Fender | peer is bidirectional as well |
05:36.16 | [TK]D-Fender | You don't seem to understand what the types actually mean. |
05:36.24 | iheartlinux | It worked with type = friend and my incoming port 5060 blocked. |
05:36.41 | [TK]D-Fender | You're mixing things |
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05:36.50 | [TK]D-Fender | packetsd don't magically get through because of the TYPE |
05:36.54 | [TK]D-Fender | thats your router |
05:37.05 | [TK]D-Fender | And if you have a KEEP ALIVE keeping the port open |
05:37.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Or are REGSITERING which does the same |
05:37.33 | [TK]D-Fender | So saying you switched to "ip" .... |
05:37.50 | [TK]D-Fender | there goes a chunk of the regular things forcing it open at all |
05:37.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Type has nothing to dow ith it |
05:38.34 | iheartlinux | what does my local router have to do with this? |
05:40.03 | drmessano | Uh |
05:40.07 | drmessano | Everything |
05:40.21 | iheartlinux | my pbx is on a vps, connected to a public IP. my phones are connecting via pjsip on a totally different port. im only using sip for flowroute |
05:41.40 | drmessano | iheartlinux: Have you ever looked at SIP DEBUG? |
05:42.06 | iheartlinux | yes I have it open. |
05:42.11 | [TK]D-Fender | None of that shows us anything useful so far |
05:42.32 | drmessano | iheartlinux: All of that communication is viewable |
05:42.36 | drmessano | There is no magic |
05:44.59 | iheartlinux | https://old.trunkmasters.com/pastebin/typepeer5060open |
05:45.31 | drmessano | Thats not SIP Debug |
05:45.47 | iheartlinux | asterisk -Rvvvvvvvvvd |
05:45.54 | drmessano | Thats not SIP Debug |
05:45.55 | iheartlinux | does that not show debug info |
05:45.58 | iheartlinux | ok |
05:46.01 | drmessano | It does not |
05:46.13 | drmessano | sip set debug on |
05:46.29 | iheartlinux | Core debug is still 1 |
05:46.39 | drmessano | JFC |
05:46.46 | drmessano | *****Thats not SIP Debug****** |
05:46.58 | drmessano | SIP DEBUG != Core Debug |
05:47.03 | drmessano | SIP DEBUG != Verbose CLI |
05:47.07 | iheartlinux | ok |
05:47.22 | iheartlinux | gotit |
05:51.10 | iheartlinux | https://old.trunkmasters.com/pastebin/typepeer5060open |
05:55.56 | [TK]D-Fender | There we don't even see the start of a call |
05:56.59 | iheartlinux | PJSIP/212-0000000f answered SIP/flowroute-00000007 |
05:58.25 | [TK]D-Fender | There we don't even see the start of a call |
06:00.59 | iheartlinux | PJSIP/212-0000000f answered SIP/flowroute-00000007 |
06:01.01 | iheartlinux | https://old.trunkmasters.com/pastebin/typepeer5060open |
06:01.02 | drmessano | iheartlinux: You're selling this? |
06:01.49 | drmessano | You really should learn a lot more about debugging before selling people a vital public utility |
06:02.00 | drmessano | Just sayin |
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06:02.47 | iheartlinux | appreciate the input |
06:06.04 | [TK]D-Fender | piping is making reading a stupid mess |
06:06.09 | [TK]D-Fender | With all the ANSI garbage |
06:06.16 | [TK]D-Fender | [0K[2017-08-01 00:53:43] [1;31mWARNING[0m[22255][C-00000001]: [1;37mast_expr2.fl[0m:[1;37m470[0m [1;37mast_yyerror[0m: ast_yyerror(): syntax error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting $end; Input: |
06:06.25 | [TK]D-Fender | You've got broken expression in your dialplan |
06:06.39 | [TK]D-Fender | and I'm not sure the point of what you're showing |
06:07.07 | iheartlinux | No point, it's working |
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06:29.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Well one line for sure isn't |
06:32.59 | iheartlinux | same => n,GotoIf($[${DB(blockcaller/${CALLERID(num)})} = "1" ]?blocked) |
06:33.17 | iheartlinux | which I grabbed from here: https://gist.github.com/warewolf/58dc06bbe0548f75c8a2 |
06:35.06 | iheartlinux | it blocks unwanted calls, but your right |
06:40.21 | iheartlinux | fixed it: same => n,GotoIf($["${DB(blockcaller/${CALLERID(num)})}" = "1" ]?blocked) |
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08:02.28 | FuriousGeorge | hi everybody |
08:03.33 | FuriousGeorge | you may remember me from educational films such as "three minus two equals negative fun!" |
08:07.42 | FuriousGeorge | kidding asside -- and fully realizing that this is not an * related question -- is SIP video ever gonna really work without a b2bua doing all the heavy lifting? |
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08:18.13 | FuriousGeorge | no expert here, but seems to me that so long as video support is passthru only (i assume this is true with every sip server, not just the ones I know), then it will always be dependant on clients playing nice |
08:19.03 | FuriousGeorge | which is to say that there are infinite possibilities, and (no math major here) it is guaranteed never to really work. nothing can be done server side |
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12:47.44 | Samot | FuriousGeorge: You do not need a B2BUA to do video calls. They can be done endpoint to endpoint. |
12:56.18 | file | it also depends on the definition of 'work', both sides certainly have to negotiate things |
12:56.36 | Samot | Well, of course. |
12:56.44 | Samot | And deal with NAT |
12:57.03 | Samot | And all sorts of other things that making a B2BUA needed. |
12:57.13 | Samot | s/making/make/ |
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13:10.02 | darkunderlord | ok this is a long shot, but anyone ever have issues with remote phones not coming back up on a Cisco EasyVPN? I still need to packet capture, etc but these are sip phones at a remote location. ONly difference is that this location is on EasyVPN style Cisco connection, rather than traditional site to site VPN. |
13:10.24 | darkunderlord | it can take sometimes an hour or two after network comes back up for them to reregister with asterisk |
13:10.37 | darkunderlord | but all other traffic works fine, no firewalling, etc |
13:13.53 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, depending on your site to site VPN connection settings, the SA might still be sitting in one of the two VPN endpoints. |
13:14.22 | eric_hill | Assuming your phones might be on a different subnet, one spurious SA would cause the phones not to work while everything else works fine. |
13:16.41 | darkunderlord | what's odd is today the ones on wireless are connected but wired aren't Maybe this resides somewhere else. |
13:18.56 | eric_hill | Is your EasyVPN running in network extension mode or client mode? |
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13:26.01 | jbrouwers | Hey guys, I'm not getting RecordingFinished events from ARI. What could be the cause of that? |
13:26.33 | darkunderlord | ok so subscribes are getting to me, but here is the sip debug for extension 430 |
13:26.34 | darkunderlord | https://pastebin.com/Pe89mu9A |
13:27.10 | darkunderlord | we have a whole network on the other side, not just the one phone. So maybe network extension? :) |
13:29.19 | file | it's not getting the response that Asterisk is sending |
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13:31.50 | darkunderlord | file: we don't block any ports though and eventually it just starts working. but it can be anywhere between 30 minutes and a couple hours. Usually this is after the internet provider goes down and comes back up |
13:32.05 | file | okay, but the second SUBSCRIBE Is a retransmission |
13:32.11 | file | which means it either didn't get the response, or it ignored it |
13:32.15 | darkunderlord | hmm ok |
13:32.48 | darkunderlord | so maybe my phone needs a setting changed if it's ignoring it, Hmm thanks. |
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13:47.07 | darkunderlord | how can I direct sip debug to a file? |
13:50.50 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, you have an SA, likely on your side, still sitting in the VPN box that's encrypting the responses being sent back to the phones with the wrong tunnel information. |
13:51.18 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, after some time, that SA finally expires and the new (correct) one takes precedence. |
13:52.04 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, until that timeout occurs, any traffic headed back to the site is being encrypted with the old key, sent to the site, and disposed of because it doesn't match an active SA. |
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13:58.05 | darkunderlord | eric_hill: thanks |
14:01.11 | darkunderlord | eric_hill: is it weird though that it's only a problem for 3 of 6 phones? |
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14:04.33 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, I'm guessing based on my past experiences with site to site VPN's and no information about your subnet layout or log files that might indicate another issue. |
14:05.16 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, start with the SA. If that's not the problem, pick apart another piece and prove or disprove it. |
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14:13.00 | darkunderlord | any other way to test 5060 to one of my phones from here? Like how you telnet to smtp servers to test? :) |
14:14.20 | darkunderlord | nvm :) |
14:14.35 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, netcat is a glorious tool. |
14:15.02 | Chainsaw | I like nc -v |
14:15.08 | Chainsaw | At least it explicitly says "yes, that port opened". |
14:15.16 | Chainsaw | Unlike telnet. |
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14:27.49 | darkunderlord | same shit happens with same phones connected to a PJSIP server iwth entirely different version of asterisk. so odd. :D |
14:28.46 | eric_hill | I've been fighting a losing battle with PJSIP on a new server, so meh. :) |
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15:03.10 | darkunderlord | if I force a new IP statically on the phone, it is allowed to register. very odd |
15:04.29 | igcewieling | does the source port change? |
15:04.50 | igcewieling | ah, nevermind |
15:06.30 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, are you using NAT between the sites? |
15:08.05 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, for that matter, what is the phone? Cisco? Polycom? Mitel? Grandstream? |
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15:44.42 | polysics | hello! anyone is familiar with UniMRCP isntallation, please? I can't get it to compile (it never works tbh) |
15:45.19 | polysics | here is what I get: https://gist.github.com/lpradovera/9bf1be1889e94d02fb67aef8f97edcc4 |
15:45.43 | polysics | Asterisk is 13.8 certified, UniMRCP, deps and Asterisk module are checked out from master |
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15:46.01 | polysics | I was wondering if I am chasing something that might just not work or I am just doing something wrong |
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15:50.56 | [TK]D-Fender | if you're not paying Digium for support you shouldn't be running that |
15:52.10 | polysics | I am not even sure the company that asked me to do this install is paying them or not |
15:52.16 | polysics | I didn't install Asterisk on the box :D |
15:52.22 | polysics | I can go check |
15:52.37 | polysics | assume they do, they have been running on -cert for a long time |
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15:54.46 | polysics | I am just not sure if I this is a "you are doing it wrong" thing or a "it will never work" type :D |
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16:07.11 | darkunderlord | eric_hill: there's have to be some sort of NAT I'd think, if it's two diff subnets. Also they are Cisco SPA525G2 phones. It's gotta be a cisco thing |
16:17.18 | eric_hill | darkunderlord, doesn't have to be NAT if it's a L2L tunnel. But NAT has timeouts, tunnels have timeouts, and Cisco has bugs. __it hapens. |
16:18.46 | darkunderlord | eric_hill: could it be something with SIP inspection? Seems like there is some smart table somewhere that needs flushed or something |
16:20.17 | drmessano | What is the router onsite? |
16:20.30 | darkunderlord | both are ASA's |
16:20.54 | voipmonk | did you install the prereqs polysics ? |
16:22.31 | darkunderlord | what's that? My router guy us at lunch :D |
16:25.03 | drmessano | huh? |
16:25.54 | darkunderlord | not sure what the prereqs polysics is |
16:27.44 | RovingWriter | darkunderlord, he was talking to another person here, named polysics. check the nick list |
16:28.16 | darkunderlord | lol ok |
16:29.44 | drmessano | darkunderlord: You really need an IRC client with a nicklist and scrollback |
16:30.02 | darkunderlord | I do, I just need a brain too :) |
16:30.11 | darkunderlord | I'm using Konversation |
16:30.23 | drmessano | Oh wow |
16:31.12 | drmessano | Konversation is like the Koutlook Kexpress of IRC clients |
16:31.15 | drmessano | Well played |
16:31.40 | darkunderlord | hahaha |
16:32.08 | darkunderlord | drmessano: what do you suggest? |
16:33.40 | drmessano | IRCCloud |
16:34.18 | darkunderlord | I don't want to pay, but I guess I can make my employer pay :) |
16:34.49 | drmessano | You dont HAVE to pay |
16:35.33 | drmessano | https://www.irccloud.com/pricing |
16:35.40 | drmessano | But it's a better experience if you do |
16:35.42 | igcewieling | I use Pidgin, the IRC support is good enough for me. |
16:35.58 | drmessano | igcewieling: That's worse than Konversation |
16:36.30 | darkunderlord | haha yeah I've used pidgin too |
16:37.33 | drmessano | IRCCloud is great.. it's the only way to take IRC with you on the go |
16:37.35 | salviadud | irssi ftw |
16:39.20 | igcewieling | Xchat was OK when I used it many years ago. |
16:39.31 | drmessano | It's no longer developed |
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16:39.39 | salviadud | igcewieling, try hexchat |
16:39.47 | salviadud | forked from xchat |
16:40.17 | darkunderlord | salviadud: I use that on my win box sometimes |
16:40.18 | igcewieling | salviadud: suggest it to darkunderlord. I already have an IRC client. |
16:40.33 | salviadud | darkunderlord, hexchat bro |
16:41.22 | igcewieling | Most of my messaging is via XMPP. Not sure why I hang out here anymore. 8-| |
16:41.24 | drmessano | You know you can use IRCCloud FREE, you just idle disconnect after 2 hours |
16:41.32 | drmessano | igcewieling: /quit |
16:41.56 | salviadud | igcewieling, admit it, you are oldschool |
16:42.10 | drmessano | He just likes to hang around and troll |
16:42.14 | drmessano | So he'll never leave |
16:42.27 | igcewieling | salviadud: I admit I'm something of a luddite. |
16:43.21 | drmessano | A luddite that works in telephony and is currently chatting on IRC with a computer |
16:43.30 | drmessano | That's.. rich |
16:43.37 | drmessano | Anywho |
16:50.39 | RovingWriter | i still use mIRC |
16:50.43 | RovingWriter | so i can be a l33t scripter. |
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17:03.47 | lvlinux | irssi/znc/bitlbee takes care of IRC, XMPP, Google Hangouts/Talk, Twitter for me! |
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17:09.22 | learath | anyone have a sample pjsip.conf for flowroute? |
17:09.39 | lvlinux | i do, wait just a sec |
17:10.00 | learath | lvlinux: Thanks! |
17:14.25 | lvlinux | http://paste.debian.net/979239/ |
17:14.28 | lvlinux | there you go |
17:14.44 | lvlinux | now, that's assuming you are using IP auth |
17:14.55 | lvlinux | if you need user/pass/registration it will be a little different |
17:15.14 | learath | hm. I don't need a registration? |
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17:16.48 | lvlinux | do you have a static ip? |
17:16.54 | learath | yes |
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17:16.59 | lvlinux | then you don't need it |
17:17.33 | lvlinux | registration tells the provider where to find you, so if you're ip changes, the registration says "i'm here now at this ip---use it to send me calls" |
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17:18.29 | learath | hm. does not like endpoint=flowroute |
17:19.41 | lvlinux | ?? |
17:20.04 | lvlinux | that config is in use on a box i have |
17:20.46 | learath | Asterisk 14.0.0? |
17:20.59 | lvlinux | 13.something, but it should be the same |
17:21.22 | lvlinux | should work just by copy/paste |
17:21.51 | lvlinux | (well, you'll have to change the transport name from sip-udp to whatever your trasnport is named though) |
17:22.05 | learath | yeah |
17:22.11 | learath | mine matched yours pretty closely already. |
17:23.03 | lvlinux | I believe something else is wrong if it's complaining... |
17:23.14 | learath | entirely possible :) |
17:23.31 | learath | I'm trying to port a... version 11? 12? config |
17:23.35 | learath | (pre-pjsip) |
17:23.44 | learath | at this point, I suspect moving to pjsip was a mistake. |
17:23.44 | learath | meh |
17:24.30 | lvlinux | NOOOOOOOO |
17:24.35 | lvlinux | pjsip rocks! |
17:24.43 | learath | sure, but it's a huge change |
17:25.01 | lvlinux | yes, but well worth it in my opinion, and my experience. |
17:25.30 | RovingWriter | why is it better? |
17:25.30 | learath | I have no opinion. |
17:26.11 | file | if your endpoint or something is wrong, it does tell you when it's loaded |
17:26.30 | learath | that's how I found out endpoint=flowroute was no good. |
17:26.35 | lvlinux | RovingWriter: lots of improvements---check the docs. |
17:27.00 | lvlinux | learath: by "no good" you mean "not found" or what? |
17:28.21 | learath | lvlinux: erm. lemme see if I can grab the error |
17:28.24 | lvlinux | i bet there's a typo somewhere |
17:28.26 | learath | it might have scrolled off. |
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17:28.37 | learath | possible |
17:28.49 | learath | [Aug 1 17:18:05] ERROR[1]: config_options.c:720 aco_process_var: Could not find option suitable for category 'flowroute' named 'endpoint' at line 223 of |
17:29.21 | learath | hah yep. you are 100% right. |
17:29.29 | learath | it's "flowroute-trunk" not flowroute. |
17:29.37 | lvlinux | hehe |
17:30.56 | darkunderlord | ok trying this irccloud thing out :D |
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19:00.09 | polysics | voipmonk: sorry, I had to leave - I installed the prereqs and configure states it is finding them |
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19:58.32 | darkunderlord | sure, everyone goes quiet now that I'm trying a new client :D |
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20:22.18 | darkunderlord | I've been doing this shit for years and somehow still don't understand how my IAX trunking works lol |
20:30.54 | lvlinux | darkunderlord: we're not getting your messages with irccloud, especially about your ignorance of IAX. |
20:30.57 | lvlinux | lol |
20:31.40 | darkunderlord | hahaha thanks! |
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21:29.52 | lvlinux | Any suggestions for an open source router/firewall distro that runs on standard x86 hardware? I'm considering ditching pfSense since it appears Samot was right about it dropping/mangling my RTP packets for no good reason, and without notification. |
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22:51.37 | [TK]D-Fender | lvlinux, Buy an actual dedicated router |
22:51.53 | salviadud | lvlinux, sonicwall |
22:51.56 | [TK]D-Fender | lvlinux, Wasteing a full PC for this only very rarely makes any sense |
22:52.02 | [TK]D-Fender | LOL .... |
22:53.21 | salviadud | [TK]D-Fender, ummm, sonicwall is useful if you're planning on using deep packet inspection. |
22:53.29 | salviadud | Otherwise, it might be a bit too much. |
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23:01.14 | [TK]D-Fender | if you want DPI use MITM Proxy |
23:01.23 | [TK]D-Fender | And you can do that in software separate from your firewall |
23:01.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Because SonicWALL is a giant rip-off |
23:02.44 | Samot | lvlinux: routerboard.com |
23:02.51 | Samot | Mikrotik is the way. |
23:03.00 | [TK]D-Fender | It's a very good option for sure |
23:03.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Certainly hard to need more for 99% of users |
23:03.23 | lvlinux | but it isn't open source |
23:03.39 | lvlinux | and it's not "wasting" a PC when it's a thin client and useless for anything else :-D |
23:03.54 | [TK]D-Fender | You had us at "useless" :p |
23:03.56 | Samot | OK.. |
23:03.58 | Samot | Wait.. |
23:04.15 | Samot | You have an issue with Mikrotik because it's not open source? |
23:04.20 | lvlinux | I don't need DPI, just standard routing/firewall, and VERY good QoS. and full ipv6 support |
23:04.26 | Samot | OK. |
23:04.27 | [TK]D-Fender | It'll cost more to power, more hassle and more things likely to go wrong. |
23:04.29 | Samot | Mikrotik |
23:04.38 | Samot | Get a hEX or hAP lite |
23:04.43 | Samot | Less than $50 |
23:04.51 | Samot | All the goodies you'd like inside it. |
23:04.56 | Samot | And it *WORKS* |
23:05.04 | lvlinux | my thin client uses 5W at idle---that isn't much power, and only about 14W when full blast. |
23:05.14 | Samot | What |
23:05.26 | lvlinux | Does Mikrotik support fq_codel |
23:05.27 | lvlinux | ? |
23:06.45 | Samot | No. |
23:06.49 | Samot | It does it better. |
23:06.56 | Samot | It has Queues for that kind of stuff |
23:07.01 | Samot | And other features. |
23:07.02 | lvlinux | wrong---there is no better |
23:07.07 | Samot | OK. |
23:07.10 | lvlinux | queues isn't good enough |
23:07.14 | Samot | OK. |
23:07.18 | lvlinux | (for me anyway) |
23:07.36 | Samot | Sure. |
23:07.58 | Samot | Just go get a OpenWRT or DDWRT device then. |
23:08.13 | Samot | If you're not interested in a real router. |
23:10.01 | lvlinux | "real" is quite subjective, and really the "real" routers are no more "real" than the goofy consumer stuff anymore, at least not unless you buy a cisco 6500. |
23:10.32 | lvlinux | theyre all just software running on mostly plain hardware, with sometimes a few enhancements here and there in hardware. |
23:10.37 | lvlinux | bbl |
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23:27.39 | drmessano | FOSS firewalls on consumer hardware are fine for hobby use |
23:27.45 | drmessano | SO if that's all that is needed, go for it |
23:27.56 | drmessano | I prefer something that works and that I don't have to think about |
23:29.40 | robmal | Oh no, it's that 'don't use asterisk if you're not a pro' talk again :-/ |
23:30.53 | Samot | No. |
23:31.21 | Samot | This is the "My pfSense router is mangling my outbound packets for no reason, gotta a better suggestion for a router" |
23:31.36 | Samot | And when one was given the response was "Oh, it's not open source. Can't use it" |
23:32.07 | snadge | mikrotik, ubiquiti, asus |
23:32.09 | Samot | Followed by asking about something Open/DDWRT and pfSense do as a "feature" |
23:32.19 | Samot | And if it doesn't do that, then forget it. |
23:33.16 | Samot | So no this is not a "Don't use it if your not a pro" talk |
23:33.24 | drmessano | Oh I think it's funny |
23:33.24 | Samot | This is a "Use some common sense" talk. |
23:33.30 | drmessano | Like |
23:33.34 | drmessano | "PFSense does X" |
23:33.46 | drmessano | But it does it 110% slower |
23:34.03 | drmessano | So whatever gains there could be from feature X are lost in implementation |
23:35.28 | drmessano | fq_codel in pfsense sounds like taping rubber pads to square wheels hoping to round them out |
23:36.07 | drmessano | and when it goes "faster" than it did, you can brag about the performance |
23:36.35 | drmessano | While anyone else with a $50 Mikrotik are just sitting back passing packets like it's a Tuesday |
23:36.44 | robmal | So you still can't help people but you're now vendor specific? ;-) |
23:36.59 | drmessano | huh? |
23:37.20 | Samot | robmal: The original question was "recommend a router that's not pfsense to me" |
23:37.38 | Samot | Then they only wanted routers that did pfsense stuff.. |
23:37.59 | Samot | Which means, they'll probably have the _exact_ _same_ _problems_ |
23:38.19 | drmessano | Samot: I think he's just trolling me |
23:38.27 | robmal | drmessano: Just a bit ;-) |
23:38.29 | snadge | if pfsense is the answer, then you're asking the wrong question.. unless its.. what shouldn't i use for a router |
23:38.32 | snadge | :P |
23:38.41 | drmessano | robmal: Why don't you just put me on ignore? |
23:38.49 | drmessano | snadge: Indeed |
23:39.05 | robmal | drmessano: Why should i? |
23:39.22 | drmessano | robmal: Obviously i'm bothering you |
23:39.56 | robmal | Not at all. |
23:46.03 | RovingWriter | wellllppp, about that time of the day to leave the office |
23:46.24 | drmessano | Yeah, trolls are coming out |
23:47.13 | RovingWriter | made an auto-scaling group full of webservers and mariadb servers, to scale a website automatically when we do our next product launch |
23:47.23 | RovingWriter | so that'll do it for todays work |
23:47.41 | RovingWriter | and i didn't use pfsense's haproxy plugin. |
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23:48.27 | drmessano | I prefer PFSense's LOLProxy |