IRC log for #asterisk on 20170603

00:00.21[TK]D-Fenderdrmessano
00:00.21[TK]D-FenderAs I said
00:00.21[TK]D-Fender4:50 pm
00:00.21[TK]D-FenderPJSIP never had non-specific "quality issues". Implementation issues, sure
00:00.21[TK]D-Fender4:51 pm
00:00.22[TK]D-FenderSo simply being "PJSIP" isn't a problem
00:00.28[TK]D-FenderThat was perfectly clear
00:00.34[TK]D-Fenderthere is no quality issues
00:00.42[TK]D-Fenderthat obviously implies "stability"\
00:00.47[TK]D-Fendermans exactly what it says
00:00.49[TK]D-Fenderit WORKS
00:00.54[TK]D-Fenderit does what it is supposed to do
00:01.08[TK]D-FenderThere is no in-between to to fish for
00:01.41[TK]D-Fenderit doesn't have all of chan_sip's features , but many moe of its own
00:02.38SamotI actually asked what the actual issue was and never got an answer.
00:02.49SamotMultiple times
00:03.11[TK]D-FenderThis is nothing more than a leading question of "is there anything wrong"?
00:03.16*** join/#asterisk Dovid (~dovid@ool-4573a525.dyn.optonline.net)
00:03.22SamotSo Im not sure how "unhelpful" that was.
00:03.28[TK]D-FenderAnd not accepted answers saying "it's as stable as anything else"
00:03.59[TK]D-Fenderinfotek, So ... what is it that is not working for you exactly?
00:10.07infotek[TK]D-Fender: i'm trying to install a vanilla asterisk install over freepbx? can you please help me?
00:10.51[TK]D-FenderWhat are you expecting when saying "over freepbx"?
00:10.59[TK]D-FenderThat can mean many different things
00:11.15[TK]D-FenderSome of which are based on unviable expectations
00:11.58[TK]D-FenderPlease clarify
00:21.11*** join/#asterisk infobot (ibot@rikers.org)
00:21.11*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.16.0 (2017/05/30), 11.25.1 (2016/12/08), Standard: 14.5.0 (2017/05/30); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.6.0 (2017/01/27) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
00:27.45SamotHere it is again
00:29.55*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.226.241.138)
00:30.23[TK]D-FenderCue awkward silence...
00:30.36[TK]D-Fendersets up a series of daisy-chained egg timers
00:49.58[TK]D-Fenderfires up the Jeopardy final showdown theme-music on a loop
01:07.18*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.226.241.138)
01:07.51*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
01:18.08[TK]D-Fenderinfotek, well?
01:24.48*** join/#asterisk yokel (~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt)
01:27.49Samotlistens to the crickets
01:51.00*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.226.241.138)
02:01.32*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.226.241.138)
02:09.31*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
02:20.17*** join/#asterisk genpaku (~genpaku@107.191.100.185)
02:21.02[TK]D-Fenderheads out for the evening...
02:47.02wyoung[TK]D-Fender: have fun!
02:52.23*** join/#asterisk scgm11_ (~scgm11@76.14.13.82)
02:56.33*** join/#asterisk vandyk (~vandyk@201.37.120.199)
03:10.12*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
03:23.03*** join/#asterisk Rini (uid196547@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zmcearvtoysjamef)
04:11.00*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
04:52.46*** join/#asterisk justdave (~dave@unaffiliated/justdave)
04:54.54*** join/#asterisk Hyper_Eye (~mwoodj@pdpc/sponsor/digium/hyper-eye)
04:55.37*** join/#asterisk vstemen (~vince@ip68-227-102-113.ok.ok.cox.net)
05:11.43*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
05:26.08*** join/#asterisk justdave (~dave@unaffiliated/justdave)
05:50.31*** join/#asterisk justdave (~dave@unaffiliated/justdave)
06:14.30*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
06:20.59*** join/#asterisk cryptic (~cryptic@67-8-35-31.res.bhn.net)
06:33.34*** join/#asterisk jkroon (~jkroon@vc-nat-gp-s-41-13-0-226.umts.vodacom.co.za)
06:54.44*** join/#asterisk gerhard7 (~gerhard7@ip5657ee30.direct-adsl.nl)
07:20.35*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
07:23.39*** join/#asterisk jkroon (~jkroon@41.13.28.207)
07:34.13*** join/#asterisk evil_gordita (robert@ip70-188-41-127.rn.hr.cox.net)
07:44.08*** join/#asterisk defsdoor (~andy@cpc120600-sutt6-2-0-cust177.19-1.cable.virginm.net)
07:58.57*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
07:59.22*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
08:02.16*** join/#asterisk DanB (~DanB@clt-195.192.203.148.ip-anschluss.net)
08:30.45*** join/#asterisk wdoekes (~walter@wjd.osso.nl)
08:30.45*** mode/#asterisk [+o wdoekes] by ChanServ
08:58.40*** join/#asterisk DanB (~DanB@clt-195.192.203.148.ip-anschluss.net)
09:41.11*** join/#asterisk detha (~detha@unaffiliated/detha)
09:49.42*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
09:50.32*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
10:00.54*** join/#asterisk evilman_work (~evilman@87.244.6.228)
10:51.52*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
11:45.57*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@197.2.236.56)
11:52.41*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
12:24.31*** join/#asterisk Bliepo (~Bliepo@145.133.217.142)
12:29.10BliepoHello! I am trying to use asterisk as a back to back user agent, where I have an external voip provider (freevoipdeal, Dellmont) as server and my Android phone as a client.
12:29.36BliepoHowever, when I try to make a call from my Android phone asterisk says:
12:29.38BliepoWARNING[21321][C-00000001]: pbx.c:4869 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'Dial,SIP,freevoipdeal/${EXTEN}' for extension (default, 0031455317004, 1)
12:53.41*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
13:17.37*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
14:09.23*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
14:42.45*** join/#asterisk Janos (~Janos@190.171.101.72)
14:45.44Janoshey there, can anyone point me to the docs or explain what exactly does the parameter userbase in users.conf ? what happens if I change it ? judging by it's name sounds like asterisk will dynamically allocate extensions somehow
14:48.02Janosthe best description I could find was "Starting point of allocation of extensions"
14:50.36*** join/#asterisk phix (~threat@59-102-102-252.tpgi.com.au)
14:53.53*** join/#asterisk jameswf (uid27319@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cjnpoawrsspgrkvt)
14:59.51*** join/#asterisk skywayskase (~skywayska@104.129.152.117)
15:10.10*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
15:18.05*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
15:22.09*** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (~joe@64.235.216.2)
15:22.39[TK]D-FenderJanos, users.conf should never be used
15:23.33Janosgood to know, and what about phone provisioning ? it needs the macaddress attribute in there, is there an alternative to users.conf for that ?
15:24.57Janosor better to stay away from phoneprov too ?
15:31.11[TK]D-FenderYou could generate your own configs...
15:31.19[TK]D-Fenderor use another tool to generate them.
15:31.56[TK]D-FenderI'd seen a few historical scripts that would parse sip.conf, but it's been a long while
15:32.42SamotNot many use user.conf anymore as far as I can tell.
15:36.59Janosgenerating phone configs is not really that hard with any modern web framework, I just assumed using phoneprov/users was not bad and it's flexible enough for my current needs, but if you guys think it's no longer used/maintained I guess I'll start working on a different solution
15:37.32SamotI just don't see many people using it.
15:37.45SamotI've never had an install where user.conf was needed.
15:38.00SamotIf this is to manage phones, yeah there are better options.
15:38.48[TK]D-Fender~users.conf
15:38.48infobot[~users.conf] users.conf is a flaming pile of sh1t that takes the fine control of several perfectly usable asterisk config files and reduces them to the lowest common denominator and makes your system behave like a "toaster grade" PBX system.
15:39.14[TK]D-FenderIt's only reason to exist was AsteriskGUI which has been dead for about 7 years now
15:39.15SamotThere's that too
15:41.04JanosLOL not much to say after that, for now it's flexible enough for my needs, but I'll definitively start working on a backend that provision my phones, hopefully integrated with sip.conf and hopefully using a dynamic res and not that actual text file
15:42.44*** join/#asterisk jkroon (~jkroon@vc-nat-gp-s-41-13-28-207.umts.vodacom.co.za)
15:43.12Janosand yes, the lack of flexibility is a strong point against users.conf but the strongest I think is the lack of documentation
15:43.40Janosthanks for the insight :)
15:45.21[TK]D-Fenderwell it's been dead for 7 years
15:45.43[TK]D-Fenderand also no pjsip support, or all sorts of other channel driver specific settings
15:46.07[TK]D-Fenderyou're far better off just making a template you can parse & generate yourself
15:46.33Samot^^ What I do most of the time.
15:55.18*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
16:04.15*** join/#asterisk jkroon (~jkroon@vc-nat-gp-s-41-13-28-207.umts.vodacom.co.za)
16:18.24*** join/#asterisk jkroon (~jkroon@41.13.28.207)
16:24.24*** join/#asterisk jjrh (~weechat12@ppp-199-167-117-131.storm.ca)
17:12.37*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be)
17:37.37*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be)
17:41.07*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
17:51.18*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net)
17:59.04*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net)
18:01.52*** join/#asterisk qudama (~qudama@112.215.172.57)
18:02.30*** join/#asterisk sawgood (~sawgood@unaffiliated/sawgood)
18:09.07*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be)
18:16.16*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net)
18:17.22*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be)
18:18.32*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
18:20.51*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be)
18:22.17*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net)
18:26.08*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be)
18:31.13*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net)
18:32.24*** join/#asterisk jkroon (~jkroon@vc-nat-gp-s-41-13-28-207.umts.vodacom.co.za)
18:33.01*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net)
18:33.51*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
18:36.02*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be)
18:37.12*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net)
18:45.41*** join/#asterisk |ance|ott (~|ance|ott@208.69.10.6)
18:47.21*** join/#asterisk pa (~pa@unaffiliated/pa)
18:50.45*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net)
18:53.16*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be)
18:56.32*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be)
18:58.00*** join/#asterisk _0x5eb_ (~seb@seb-hpws2.w1.tele.crt1.net)
18:58.58*** join/#asterisk scgm11_ (~scgm11@216.9.110.6)
19:05.14*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
19:06.03*** join/#asterisk emk (~emk@unaffiliated/emk)
19:27.10*** join/#asterisk cemotyz09 (~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com)
19:27.42*** part/#asterisk cemotyz09 (~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com)
19:41.06*** join/#asterisk cemotyz09 (~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com)
19:49.12*** join/#asterisk jkroon (~jkroon@vc-nat-gp-s-41-13-28-207.umts.vodacom.co.za)
19:59.10*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
20:11.55*** join/#asterisk jkroon (~jkroon@vc-nat-gp-s-41-13-28-207.umts.vodacom.co.za)
20:15.36*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
20:32.12*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
20:48.24*** join/#asterisk alpartis (~alpartis@h13.5.39.162.static.ip.windstream.net)
20:48.41*** join/#asterisk cemotyz09 (~cemotyz09@cpe-70-121-157-202.satx.res.rr.com)
20:58.53*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
21:06.33*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
21:46.32*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
21:57.02*** join/#asterisk Samael28 (~Samael28@176.104.56.91)
22:40.38*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)
22:58.19*** join/#asterisk Katty (uid62315@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxylpjwnkqlcpuvs)
23:04.12*** join/#asterisk jetlag (~jetlag@c-71-226-222-56.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
23:34.32*** join/#asterisk matrix1233 (~matrix123@41.230.50.40)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.