IRC log for #asterisk on 20170428

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00:21.12*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.15.0 (2017/04/07), 11.25.1 (2016/12/08), Standard: 14.4.0 (2017/04/07); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.6.0 (2017/01/27) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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02:29.29snadgecan anyone cast their mind back to the asterisk 1.6 days, and recall if there were issues with dnsmgr_lookup taking longer than it should?
02:29.56snadgei've checked general dns performance seems to be okay.. queries coming back in 0-4ms
02:30.52snadgeforgot to upgrade this box to 11 like the rest of them.. even though 11 is equally out of date ;)
02:32.13[TK]D-FenderI recall all sorts of DNS issues
02:32.19[TK]D-Fenderwhere it was always best to have a local server
02:33.04snadgeyeah i could probably just put dnsmasq on it and redirect queries to local, as a bandaid if need be
02:33.47[TK]D-Fenderor.... you could jsut upgrade
02:33.56[TK]D-Fenderbecause that's woefully out of date
02:34.08snadgeyeah thats the plan.. outside of hours
02:34.22snadgeim not doing it whilst people are using it :P
02:35.23snadge310 active sip peers.. 12 calls.. thats nothing
02:37.29snadgeif i update /etc/resolv.conf i dont have to do anything to asterisk do i?
02:37.39carrarfail them over to your backup server
02:37.47snadgeyou're funny carrar ;)
02:37.59carrarheh
02:38.19carrarsad, but funny yes
02:38.46snadgewe have daily backups, snapshot of the entire vm.. but thats not exactly convenient to fail people over to... no standby server or anything sensible like that
02:39.23carrarshould test that
02:39.24snadgei guess i could make one.. but its probably just easier to wait until people aren't using it in about 5 hours
02:39.37snadgeand recompile asterisk
02:41.32snadgeafter all, this pbx has been in production with this configuration.. for.. gee.. i dont know.. the oldest file timestamp i can see is.. Jan 13 2000
02:41.47snadgeso whats that.. 17 years? ;)
02:42.08snadgeim sure it can wait another 5 hours
02:45.31snadgeok.. on a redhat/centos based system you can use "rpm -qi basesystem" .. which reveals Fri 25 Mar 2011.. that seems more reasonable
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04:20.01wyoungsnadge: sudo apt-get install bind9
04:20.27wyoungoh wait, you are using an old version of asterisk, that must mean you are using Redhat or Centos
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04:54.15DexDeadlyHey all, so I have installed the chan-sccp plugin to get my Cisco 7970 to work with BLFs, etc.  It works great.  however playing around I saw that doing a sccp message device the screen only shows 4 characters.  I have the download of the module and want to take a stab at finding out why its cutting it off.  The bottom part its displaying clearly can display longer as it is the same section
04:54.16DexDeadlyof the screen where other messages are displayed.  My question would be where would these files located once you do a make install?
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05:48.16Dirk23[TK]D-Fender: good morning. Is there a good tutorial for connecting my Peers (SIP Client and Speaker) to my finaly running Asterisk?
05:48.35[TK]D-FenderEvery guide
05:48.41SamotDirk23: It's all over the place
05:48.41[TK]D-FenderHowSIP is SIP
05:48.43SamotWe told you this
05:49.01[TK]D-FenderALL the same thing
05:49.16SamotConnecting a SIP client to Asterisk has been something that's been happening for almost 20 years.
05:49.23SamotIt honestly hasn't changed that much.
05:50.43Dirk23ok.... i have NO Experience and i dont know what to do at all in those configs. In the asterisk wiki they tell me to backup the old sip.conf and create a empty one. Yesterday you (Samot) where laughting about that almost empty sip.conf.
05:50.51Dirk23so what was wrong with it?
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05:52.56SamotHave you even attempted to register the device?
05:53.40Dirk23i havent tried, i wanted to test it today. So shall i use the sip.conf from tutorial?
05:53.50[TK]D-Fendergo do it
05:54.03[TK]D-Fenderwhy are you asking to even try?
05:54.47drmessanoI think he wants permission to set up Asterisk
05:54.50drmessanoGranted
05:54.56Dirk23because you confused me yesterday and i thougth i made everything wronfg
05:54.57carrarproceed
05:55.05Dirk23drmessano: no
05:55.12Dirk23carrar: thnx
05:55.54carrarheh
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05:56.09drmessanonp
05:56.36drmessanoPlease let me know if you need a 30 day extension
05:56.48Dirk23do i need to reload the configs somehow after changing them?
05:56.54[TK]D-Fenderyes
05:57.07[TK]D-Fender"reload" for most at once
05:57.27Dirk23ok, fine. How do i reload them?
05:57.40[TK]D-Fenderjust1looking4u2
05:57.43[TK]D-Fenderug
05:57.47[TK]D-Fenderwtf
05:57.57[TK]D-Fender<[TK]D-Fender> "reload" for most at once
05:58.30Dirk23<Dirk23> ok, fine. How do i reload them?
05:59.45SamotWhat is this for?
05:59.45Dirk23do i need to get into the asterisk cli, do i need to restar the service?
05:59.47[TK]D-Fender"reload" <- THE FUCKING THING IN QUOTES
05:59.53drmessano"reload"
05:59.54[TK]D-FenderYOU TYPE THE FUCKING WORD.
06:00.05drmessanoreload <press the enter key>
06:00.06[TK]D-FenderYES * CLI
06:00.09Dirk23ah!
06:00.13SamotI want to know what this is for...
06:00.20SamotIs this some commercial deployment?
06:01.02SamotOr did you just think it would be cool to talk to your friend over a ceiling speaker?
06:01.34Dirk23Samot: its just for fun and to have you employed
06:01.43Dirk23of course not!
06:01.59SamotWhat do you men "to have you employed"?
06:02.06SamotWhat do you mean "to have you employed"?
06:02.17drmessanoDirk23: You know NONE of us talking are paid to be here, right?
06:02.37drmessanoWe're all community members
06:02.41Dirk23drmessano: really, i never thougth so
06:02.47SamotWhat do you mean "to have you employed"?
06:02.49[TK]D-FenderWhich means if you are lazy or waste our time ... you are just wasting our time.
06:02.54drmessano^ that
06:03.04Dirk23ok, thnx for your community help.
06:03.19drmessanoYou're not serious, are you?
06:03.27Dirk23i will not ask anything again. I thought that is what a community is for
06:03.33drmessanoDid you honestly think Digium just pays people to IRC all day?
06:03.43Dirk23drmessano: of course not
06:03.43[TK]D-FenderWell.. they do.. a little bit :)
06:03.49[TK]D-Fenderanyway... go try
06:03.54SamotDirk23: Don't even go there. Not after you wasted over an hour of my time last night.
06:04.09SamotOf me trying to help you.
06:04.10Dirk23sip client connected successfully. Now i need to configure my speaker
06:04.18[TK]D-Fenderso .. you should have reloaded your configs.
06:04.24[TK]D-Fenderwhere are you at now?
06:04.33SamotWhich we told you MULTIPLE times last night.
06:04.45Dirk23i have a ZOIPER connected to asterisk
06:04.59[TK]D-Fenderok
06:05.44Dirk23https://pastebin.com/Rh1giVC2
06:06.03Dirk23do i configure the number of a phone only in those []
06:06.05[TK]D-Fenderthat's 1 peer
06:07.51Dirk23so, Speaker is connected to
06:08.08[TK]D-Fenderto ....?
06:08.16Dirk23asterisk
06:08.28[TK]D-FenderHow is Zoiper connected?
06:08.59Dirk23what you mean by "how"? I added an SIp Account
06:10.08Dirk23The wiki now tells me i can make a call now, but i cant
06:10.44[TK]D-FenderYou jsut said you have TWO things connected
06:10.50[TK]D-FenderAnd showed a config with ONE peer <-
06:11.08[TK]D-FenderYou should not have to 2 things saying "Hi, I'm JOHN"
06:11.17[TK]D-FenderONE of them is JOHN, the other ... should be someone else
06:11.36Dirk23yes, the peer comes second. i need to see how to connect my pbx with a sip account. That will take a lone time to figure that out. I wanted to test call the seaker
06:11.36[TK]D-FenderAlso, you've shown only sip.conf so far
06:11.46[TK]D-Fenderthat doesn't mean you can process ANY call at all.
06:12.02[TK]D-FenderSo how are BOTH "connected" if you only have 1 peer?
06:12.02Dirk23ok, wait
06:12.06Dirk23nono
06:12.15drmessanoDirk23: You need ONE PEER for the Speaker.. ONE PEER for Zoiper
06:12.19[TK]D-Fender<Dirk23> so, Speaker is connected to
06:12.22drmessanoThats TWO
06:12.25[TK]D-Fender<Dirk23> i have a ZOIPER connected to asterisk
06:12.30Dirk23https://pastebin.com/MBXvRRx9
06:12.30drmessanoYou have ONE
06:12.32[TK]D-FenderCLARITY.  Find it fast.
06:12.36drmessanoONE + ONE = TWO
06:12.43[TK]D-Fenderbetter
06:12.51Dirk23yes, i know
06:12.57Dirk23but i cant call the speaker
06:12.59[TK]D-FenderAlso don't use the same passwords
06:13.05Dirk23ok
06:13.06[TK]D-Fenderthings will eventually start fucking up on you
06:13.20SamotDirk23: Do you have dialplan written to call the speaker?
06:13.33[TK]D-Fender[TK]D-Fender> Also, you've shown only sip.conf so far
06:13.33[TK]D-Fender<[TK]D-Fender> that doesn't mean you can process ANY call at all.
06:13.40Dirk23no i have no dialplan
06:13.42[TK]D-FenderAll call processing = dialplan = extensions.conf
06:13.45[TK]D-Fenderthen you can't do anything
06:13.50SamotThen you can't process calls.
06:14.12[TK]D-FenderEvery single step your call is expected to take = dialplan
06:14.42Dirk23ok
06:14.48[TK]D-Fender"You're John and you want to dial 12345"?  Well you'd better have that defined with the steps you expect it to take
06:15.06[TK]D-Fenderdialpan = 90% of Asterisk.
06:15.10Dirk23kk
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07:13.11slimaHello Is there any 'virtualhost' funcionality in asterisk 11?
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07:28.36drmessanovirtualhost?
07:28.38drmessanoHow?
07:29.25Dirk23Samot: my Peers dont connect anymore. In CLi see:
07:29.26Dirk23[Apr 28 09:28:45] NOTICE[1315]: chan_sip.c:28377 handle_request_subscribe: Received SIP subscribe for peer without mailbox: 6001
07:30.29Dirk23sip.conf https://pastebin.com/g879AUB3
07:30.59Dirk23extension.conf: https://pastebin.com/vGK7ewyx
07:31.28Dirk23whats wrong now?
07:32.24Dirk23hmm.... Zoiper is connected again now... but Speaker still says timeout
07:32.52Dirk23ah, now its registered again....
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07:47.06Alblasco1702Dirk23, <[TK]D-Fender> Also don't use the same passwords.
07:47.32Dirk23Alblasco1702: they are not the same
07:48.02Dirk23but thnx. The Problme is solved, my peers are all connected
07:48.02Alblasco1702Dirk23, i can't see that on your sip.conf
07:48.12Dirk23Alblasco1702: read carefully
07:48.20Dirk23the passwords are not the same
07:48.56Alblasco1702yes i saw it now 1 number is diffrent srry
07:49.10Dirk23yes
07:49.26Dirk23thnx
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09:02.39Dirk23great.... my PBX Support-Hotline told me that he's not into PBX (because they do routers and PBX) and the ONE colleague who knows Stuff about that PBX, is allway busy. Thats what i call Support....
09:03.58Dirk23i added a SIP-Provider in my physical PBX, the SIp Account is created in Asterisk (sip.conf) and my extensions allows all unmbers to call each other. But i cant see my physical PBX trying to connect to Asterisk.
09:06.04Dirk23my physical PBX can reach Asterisk
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10:23.44slimadrmessano: like in apache, freeradius etc.
10:23.56slimadifferent configurations, one instalation
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11:09.11pawieckiHi. Not really an Asterisk question, but maybe someone will be able to give me a hint. I have a Grandstream GXW410X PSTN Gateway and Asterisk on Intel NUC. Problem is, that this GW is connected to the PSTN via 4 analog lines. I've setup the GW to use a single sip account for all 4 accounts (lines), so the calls are being routed in and out * with no problem, but I can not get it to pass the caller id for incomming call.
11:37.46carrarheh
11:38.01carrarAnd how does caller ID work on PSTN analog lines?
11:38.27SamotYou generally don't set it
11:38.29SamotThe carrier does
11:38.36carrarwell depends
11:38.48carrarif it's sent, it's sent between the first and second ring
11:38.55carrarwhich means
11:39.15carrarYou need to wait till the second ring before doing anythign with the call so as to grab the caller ID
11:39.44carrarIF indeed you are getting CallerID from th PSTN and your gateway is passing it
11:47.40SamotWell I guess the first question would be, is the callerid making it to the GS.
11:47.46pawieckithanks guys. I'm reading about it, as I'm not really experienced in analog lines. It looks like it may be either turned off by the carrier or I have incorrect CID scheme in my GW settings. I'll try to verify that next.
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11:50.58Harishello all
11:51.31carrar- There is no such nick all
11:51.44Haris?
11:52.11carrarOh look, storm troopers
11:52.25carrarhttps://www.osburn.com/stormtrooper_in_shibuya.jpg
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11:52.55HarisI can't find a setting in MicroSIP for silence suppression. I guess I'll have t let my logs get filled with one liner
11:56.36carrarYou just asked that in FreeBPX
11:57.03SamotYeah, SOP.
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11:57.27carrarthe answer will be the same
11:58.35forgotmynickhello
11:58.41carrarHARRO
11:58.44forgotmynick:D
11:58.48carrarHow are you?
11:58.57forgotmynicki'm alright thanks how are you
11:59.07carrarI am great, though getting late here
11:59.17carrarany fun plans for the weekend?
11:59.21forgotmynickgo to sleep then? after you answer or someone answers my question
11:59.31carrardamn!!
11:59.35forgotmynickyeah im salty
12:01.02forgotmynickso we want to put in around 11 voip phones in our office but we want to run the asterisk server externally. how, if it's possible, could we ensure extensions can ring each other directly/not use the internet?
12:01.26SamotYou can't.
12:01.40SamotUnless you call the phones directly on the network.
12:02.01Samoti.e. Bypass Asterisk
12:02.26carrarthe RTP could bypass Asterisk
12:02.30carrarbut not the SIP
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12:02.43Samot"directly/not use the Internet"
12:02.46forgotmynickiax?
12:02.49SamotIf Asterisk is in the cloud..
12:02.55SamotThat's still INTERNET
12:02.58forgotmynicksamot that's just a pissing contest
12:03.21SamotIf you PBX is in the cloud...
12:03.28carrarHow would a phone know about all the other phones?
12:03.34SamotSIP URI
12:03.42carrarif your phones support that
12:03.44SamotYou would have to dial <exten>@<ip>
12:04.02SamotWell he's asking how not to go over the Internet to call other devices on the LAN
12:04.16SamotThe B2BAU system (Asterisk) is in the cloud.
12:04.33carrarmove the cloud into the office
12:04.39SamotThat's the only way
12:04.42carrarhope it doesn't rain
12:04.54SamotTo keep full functionality of the PBX during calls.
12:05.20SamotBecause Phone <--> Phone means no VM or FollowMe or anything that Asterisk would do to the call.
12:05.26carrarYou could run 2 PBX's
12:05.41carrarit always tries the internal to the office PBX first
12:05.51SamotThat's more than needed.
12:06.02SamotEither bring the PBX in house
12:06.11SamotOr except your calls will go over the Internet to the PBX and back
12:07.24forgotmynicki understand thanks
12:07.45carrarShould try to remember what your nick is
12:08.14forgotmynickhaha we share this account between 20 or so people
12:08.38carrarwhy?
12:08.55forgotmynicki thought maybe there was a way to redirect extension to extension calls with asterisk saying the IP is 192.168.xxx.yyy
12:09.00forgotmynickbecause we're salty
12:09.05carrarAccess to the internet is only allowed via 1 account? xWTFx
12:09.35carrarbut asterisk is in the cloud
12:09.43carrarso to get that answer
12:09.49carrarYou'd have to go to the cloud
12:10.18forgotmynicki didn't mean to avoid asterisk all together, i meant to have the extensions eventually communicate directly with each other without transmitting the call through the internet and back
12:10.30carrarscroll back
12:10.36carrarRTP can be direct
12:10.43carrarSIP can't in your setup
12:11.03carrarbut that still requires internet access
12:11.10carrarbecause the SIP sets up the call
12:12.05carrarYou might need to read up on how a sip call works
12:12.16carrarthat will probably clear things up a bit
12:12.39SamotI don't know where you think the RTP can be directed.
12:12.48forgotmynickhttp://blog.davidvassallo.me/2013/10/02/enabling-direct-rtp-streams-between-sip-phones-in-asterisk/
12:12.51SamotHis phone is going to send everything to Asterisk.
12:13.00forgotmynickthanks for pointing me in the right direction
12:13.08SamotAsterisk will decide if it needs to stay in the path for the full call or only when media is needed.
12:13.09carrarnp
12:13.21SamotBased on directmedia=yes or no
12:13.57carrarsamot we're saying the same thing
12:14.13carrarRTP can be direct
12:14.16SamotBut it still goes to Asterisk
12:14.19carrarno
12:14.27SamotHow does it not?
12:14.27carrarit does not if you configure it not too
12:14.43carrarAsterisk can tell the phones to talked directly to each other
12:14.46SamotHow does Phone A know where to send it's RTP?
12:14.49carrarbut changing the SDP headers
12:14.49SamotRight
12:15.02carrarAKA the result is what he wants
12:15.07SamotBut it still has to go to Asterisk for it to do that
12:15.24carrarthe SIP goes through Asterisk
12:15.25carraryes
12:15.28carrarnot the RTP
12:15.47carrarbecause in the SDP headers the SIP tells the phones where to send the RTP
12:16.02carrarso RTP does not need to be sent to Asterisk
12:16.15SamotRight..
12:16.24SamotUntil the signal says to.
12:16.26SamotLike hold
12:16.33SamotAsterisk puts itself back in the RTP
12:16.38carraryeah that wasn't the question
12:16.53SamotBut it's part of the answer.
12:17.01carrarwell it will work
12:17.04Samot"Asterisk will redirect the RTP"
12:17.09Samot^^ That's not specific.
12:17.11carrarcause if sip doesn't work, the call won't work in the first place
12:17.16SamotIt doesn't tell you when or how it does it.
12:17.24carrarbut the call will be "direct"
12:17.30SamotLeads to the expectation it never touches it, which isn't true.
12:18.08carrarif you're on hold you're not really having a direct call at that point
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12:18.41SamotIf I call two endpoints directly
12:18.46SamotAnd I place the call on hold..
12:18.58Harisok
12:19.02SamotThe SDP is updated to sendonly or recvonly on the proper devices.
12:19.07SamotThere would be no music.
12:19.07Hariscan silence suppression be disabled in asterisk ?
12:19.15Harismanually, via config
12:19.17Harishttp://forums.asterisk.org/viewtopic.php?p=67178
12:19.37Harisperhaps it can help
12:19.39SamotStop man.
12:19.40SamotStop
12:19.52SamotStop asking Asterisk based questions when you're running FreePBX
12:20.22HarisDude, asterisk and freepbx are two things. I haven't asked how to config asterisk via fpbx for this
12:20.29HarisWhen I do, you can stop me
12:20.43Harisyou need to stop from stopping me when I ask asterisk related Qs in here
12:20.49forgotmynickHaris, samot hasn't taken his medication today
12:20.51Harisasterisk != freepbx
12:21.03SamotSo this isn't for a FreePBX box?
12:21.09SamotThis is for a pure Asterisk box?
12:21.20Haristhis is for one. but this is also for my learning of asterisk on boxes where there's no fpbx
12:21.32HarisI don't have fpbx on all my asterisk boxes
12:21.43SamotSo why are you asking this question in #freepbx?
12:21.44Harisits on two of them
12:21.58SamotStop asking questions in two channels at once that don't related to one of those f'ing channels.
12:21.59Harisbecause I'm not asking if fpbx can configure asterisk for it
12:22.04HarisI'm asking if asterisk can be configured for it
12:22.15Samothttps://github.com/asterisk/asterisk/blob/master/configs/samples/sip.conf.sample
12:22.19Samot^^^ I thought you READ THE DOCS
12:22.38forgotmynickcarrar should we call someone?
12:22.50SamotFirst off..
12:23.06SamotHaris has been a help vampire for over a year.
12:23.24Haristhis sample file does not show asterisk config for silence suppression
12:23.28SamotRight.
12:23.30SamotBecause?!
12:23.33Harisit just has a reference in comments
12:23.41carrarforgotmynick, who would you call?
12:23.43SamotSilence Suppression is done on the DEVICE
12:24.10Haristhere was a forum topic which mentioned it may be configurable at asterisk level. That is why I'm asking if asterisk has such a setting
12:24.52SamotFrom 9 years ago
12:25.15SamotAnd it claims to use a setting that isn't covered any in docs now.
12:25.20SamotHere's the thing..
12:25.39SamotAsterisk doesn't remove deprecated settings unless they really really have to be removed.
12:25.55Samotso perhaps 9 years ago that was a setting, I don't recall it, but now it doesn't exist.
12:26.05SamotSo it either never was a proper setting or it was completely removed.
12:26.08sekilhello
12:26.10Harisjust saying "this setting doesn't exist now" would have been enough
12:26.14Harishey sekil
12:26.22Haristhank you. I appreciate it
12:26.31Harisplease be calm
12:26.43filethat option has never existed
12:26.52SamotThat's what I thought.
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12:27.51Haris"that option has never existed" <--- that much is also k
12:29.18sekilHaris: what do you mean?
12:30.46SamotThat was directed at me, I'm pretty sure.
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12:35.38sekilSamot: ah..
12:37.09SamotWe have a bit of history. See I spent almost 4 to 5 months and HOURS of my FREE time to help Haris setup Asterisk for a WebRTC solution that his company could sell to banks. He could never grasp the core concepts needed to do this. Including almost three weeks of trying to help him install Asterisk right.
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12:38.28Hariswith respect to this .. the thing is, it came out only at the end .. that fpbx has webrtc client configured only in UCP. it doesn't allow for webrtc to function with other clients .. through its setup of asterisk
12:38.30sekilSamot: right
12:38.53Harisif that had come out earlier or in the beginning, that would have stopped right there at the start
12:38.56SamotHaris: We told you that in the beginning.
12:39.01SamotIt did.
12:39.17Harisonly when the webrtc fucntionality was not working after all the trying, that bit of info came out
12:39.17SamotWhat you were ACTUALLY DOING with it didn't come out until after.
12:39.26SamotEither way..
12:39.52Harissecondly, I never asked anyone to give me a complete tutorial on asking a Q. I only ask for specific stuff
12:39.53SamotI tend to have issue when I use my _free_ time to help someone because they have to make a paycheck on it.
12:40.05SamotYou were told numerous times to go learn this stuff
12:40.11SamotTo hire someone that could help your directly
12:40.16SamotAnd here we are a year later.
12:40.16Harisbut, I appreciate every bit of time I consumed
12:40.38sekilHaris: not according to your statements though...
12:40.39Haristhat project was dropped. so no sales were made
12:40.46SamotRight
12:40.51Harisno commercial activity was ever conducted
12:40.53sekilHaris: please be calm is such a bs sentence..
12:40.54Harisbased on that
12:40.55SamotThe project was dropped because _you_ couldn't make it work
12:41.09Harisnope
12:41.14Harisnot because of that
12:41.24Haristhat was a feature, which was let go, at that point in time
12:41.48Harisbut anyway. I'm not sure if any of the support provided here is not being used in commercial activity all across the globe
12:42.03SamotIt is.
12:42.13SamotPeople come in here all the time for help
12:42.25fileWebRTC is a fascinating thing, people don't realize how much you truly have to learn to make a solution off of it and support it.
12:42.28SamotBecause they are being paid for a service they don't understand how to run or support themselves.
12:42.40Samot@file: Very true
12:42.47SamotKinda like VoIP.
12:43.19fileVoIP is simpler, WebRTC is harder because of everything involved (ICE and DTLS-SRTP), and the black box that is the browser at times
12:43.20Haristhey were trying to be a market pioneer in offering a cutting edge service, in another part of the world
12:43.20SamotThere is more to selling VoIP/Voice services than having an Asterisk box, a provider and some billing software.
12:43.30Haris%s/service/feature
12:43.57HarisSamot: There's alot to alot of which most of the time. but human beings don't accept that .. at face value
12:44.05Harisespecially there, where people try all sorts of things
12:44.07Harisall the time
12:44.34sekildoes * support RFC 4579 for conferences nowadays?
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12:46.00fileno
12:46.50stefan27Yeah... we have had so many issues with WebRTC and the components that uses it
12:47.37stefan27With the latest versions of asterisk, most of the issues that remain are on the client side
12:48.23stefan27It's hard to provide crash-logs, find the cause of bad audio quality, or our latest issue was that chrome's latest Automatic Gain Control feature seemed to bug out for some clients
12:48.49stefan27(the volume kept increasing through-out a call)
12:49.30SamotWell when there are multiple browser that consume the market shares..
12:49.44SamotGenerally by the same individuals..
12:50.00SamotAnd browser basically send updates out constantly..
12:50.27SamotRunning a web service like WebRTC over them tends to be a bit rough to keep up with.
12:50.37stefan27When letting users install other softphones that support encryption, we can tell them to carry out the testing phase without encryption to be able to trace everything better, but with WebRTC DTLS cant be shut off
12:52.52SamotYeah..
12:53.05SamotI followed FreePBX's steps.
12:53.11SamotThey make a separate user.
12:53.37fileyeah, supporting both under a single endpoint is difficult because the SDP is different between the two
12:53.52SamotWell separate device..
12:54.01SamotAnd just route incoming calls to ring both devices.
12:54.07filetheoretically we could have two streams in the SDP - but how that would be handled by implementations is a bit ... unknown
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12:55.45stefan27I read an interesting white-paper/science article by someone talking about how to test audio quality in webrtc; but that scenario abstracted away the issue with microphone capture, because they had a fixed audio source pumping audio through some artificial peerconnection and then measuring various things related to audio quality. That article had no practical use for me; our biggest problem
12:55.45stefan27is when someone says "I experience bad audio quality with WebRTC"
12:56.03stefan27there are like 10 unknowns and no way to get measure points for all of them
12:56.12stefan27it's the most time consuming trouble shooting sessions ever
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12:56.23fileit's all well and good, until it's not
12:56.32SamotHonestly, I rarely get WebRTC requests.
12:57.24stefan27All we can do is treat it like black-boxes and tell em like "Try a different headset", browser, PC or ask if the problem is exclusive to some call directions or destinations but it's always a puzzle
12:57.57SamotIt's like a softphone.
12:58.00stefan27which is nearly impossible, it's not like we can ask them to connect from a different network on the fl
12:58.06SamotIt's running on a system doing a lot of other things...
12:58.32SamotAll of which can impact the browser and the WebRTC call since WebRTC clients are JS based.
12:59.31SamotIt's not like a physical device such as a phone, who's CPU, memory and resources are allocated for one thing..
12:59.34SamotBeing a phon.
12:59.37SamotBeing a phone.
12:59.58stefan27Yeah; frankly I have no idea how that works... When chrome carries out VoIP tasks does it get CPU priority over other things your PC does? (On Windows or Mac)
13:00.11SamotOr Firefox
13:00.13SamotOr Safari
13:00.19SamotOr Edge/Explorer
13:00.21drmessanoIt doesnt
13:00.33drmessanoChrome has no loyalty to any app
13:00.35drmessanoor site
13:00.45SamotAt some point browsers may care about WebRTC
13:01.38SamotThen, of course, you have the fact the client has to go through Apache.
13:01.58SamotI'm sure in about 5 years WebRTC will be a regular thing..
13:02.10SamotOR it will have died a horrible death.
13:02.31jkroon_is there a sensible quide anywhere on setting up WebRTC?
13:02.39SamotNope.
13:02.51filedefine "setting up WebRTC"
13:03.16jkroon_well, i've got a bunch of SIP accounts currently, I'd like to enable users to log in on a web interface and use it as if it's their phone in some way ...
13:03.21fileWebRTC itself is a technology in the browser, with the client being <something>
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13:03.52filethere's a wiki page that describes how to set it up in Asterisk
13:04.04jkroon_ok, that would help already, will take a peek thanks.
13:04.46jkroon_essentially for now it'll probably be outbound calls only.  and it has nice potential for support type things, ie, click here to speak with us ...
13:05.11jkroon_anyway, project for another day.  was interesting reading the discussion above.  thanks.
13:05.11stefan27I wonder if that wiki-page is updated with the requirement to add "rtcp_mux=yes" or whichever, in sip.conf files?
13:05.23XATRIXHi guys, can you advice ? Why my call goes directly to 'FollowMe' number, instead of rinning on SIP client? It should ring SIP client fist, and in case of SIP is disconnected then go to GSM FollowMe number. https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/CprXzze5Xs3spt4MyhKq1l5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=
13:06.33filestefan27: I just did it
13:06.57filehttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/WebRTC+tutorial+using+SIPML5 entries updated and a warning added
13:07.10[TK]D-FenderXATRIX, #freepbx <-
13:07.23XATRIXsorry
13:09.33stefan27Great; I would personally warn that even though the SIPml5-client-js-library is certainly cool and functional; it's not as simple as cloning their demo to get a robust webrtc softphone.
13:09.46stefan27you're likely to run into a bunch of micro-issues!
13:11.24filestefan27: added an info section at the SIPML5 part
13:11.50stefan27Does anyone know why updates to https://github.com/DoubangoTelecom/sipml5 are so sparse now? Project seemed really active 3 years ago
13:12.28stefan27I hear that many people recommend using https://github.com/meetecho/janus-gateway instead between clients and asterisks
13:13.05stefan27You had a long dialogue with the creator of the janus-gateway some years ago, remember that file?
13:13.12filenope
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13:13.23fileentirely possible, though
13:13.49stefan27I think it was about how to make asterisk 13.1.0 more webrtc friendly
13:14.06stefan27in the mailing lists
13:14.57filedoes a lot of stuff and thus does not recall
13:16.35Hariswith the multi-core processors now coming in .. say desktops, one or two or some of those could be used for voice traffic
13:16.52Harisbut it still requires alot of work
13:17.04fileit's up to the browser.
13:17.05Harisfor webrtc to be a normal thing on a pc
13:18.04SamotOther industries aren't going to conform to WebRTC
13:18.17SamotUntil WebRTC requires them to.
13:18.24[TK]D-Fender<Haris> for webrtc to be a normal thing on a pc <- that really doesn't mean anything
13:18.36[TK]D-FenderIt's up to the browser, and then every other rndom thing a user will do
13:18.45HarisI mean for it to be like a normal app that is used in every day usage
13:18.59SamotWebRTC is kinda young still..
13:19.02Harislike a browser is used
13:19.10Harisor office apps
13:19.16SamotIt hasn't saturated the market with use yet.
13:19.29SamotNo one really knows if it's going to catch on over all..
13:19.30stefan27audio encoding is not expensive enough to prompt for specially dedicated hardware right? like there's specially dedicated hardware for decoding video? (No I dont know processor design)
13:19.43SamotBecause it's too many factors right now to figure out stability.
13:20.10SamotPCs already do this
13:20.17SamotSoftphones exist that do video and voice
13:20.27SamotClearly the PCs can handle the codecs needed.
13:21.04SamotWebRTC is a browser based softphone client.
13:21.17Harisit has to catch on if they want calls via browser on mobiles
13:21.29SamotBut unlike other softphone clients, it depends on multiple vendors for it's use.
13:21.34Haristo be a no-brainer for the average guy
13:21.44SamotWhy?
13:21.50Harisits going towards globalism
13:21.57SamotWhy do I need WebRTC on my mobile device when I have Bria?
13:22.09Harismultiple services stacked under one banner by the mega corps
13:22.18SamotBria
13:22.20Harishmm
13:22.28SamotVideo, Voice, XMPP, SIP SIMPLE
13:22.35SamotContacts, BLF, etc, etc.
13:22.42SamotWebRTC is a SOFTPHONE
13:22.55SamotLike every other softphone on the market.
13:23.13SamotIt just uses a browser and HTTP requests to do stuff.
13:23.14Harismore like .. its a tech or capability in browser used by softphone
13:23.36fileyes, it's tech that can be used to make a softphone
13:23.40fileit can also do other things
13:23.47SamotYes.
13:23.50SamotSo can other softphones.
13:24.04fileno
13:24.11file:D
13:24.19fileWebRTC, the technology, can do more
13:24.27Hariswith multi-core devices sold, it may become the norm in far off time to come
13:24.38Harisbut not with 4-8 core machine
13:24.42Harisaverage machine
13:24.43SamotHaris: It has to be adopted at some point.
13:24.45filedata channels are a useful thing, Ubiquiti uses them for example to allow remote access to their Unifi controller
13:24.54SamotFor voice.
13:25.02SamotAs a viable voice option.
13:26.22filefor voice I remain unconvinced personally
13:26.31Samot^^ Yup.
13:26.42SamotWebRTC may be used for a bunch of other stuff as a standard..
13:26.48SamotBut right now for voice..no one sees it.
13:27.05fileI've found the quality I get from stuff that has been doing it for much longer greater than what I get from WebRTC
13:27.28SamotWell in an office...
13:27.30fileno echo, no background noise, no weird gain wonkiness
13:27.40SamotFor people connecting on their mobile devices..
13:27.45SamotSomething like Bria is more viable.
13:27.46Harisit'd be interesting to see how they function on desktops with 24 core CPUs
13:27.52fileif you control the hardware fully then sure
13:27.56filewhich is what stefan27 probably does
13:28.03stefan27in an office why would you want a softphone anyways, with a dedicated table phone that never shuts off, never plugs out microphone, it just works 24/7
13:28.36stefan27(some people do want it but I don't make enough calls to want one)
13:28.51SamotWell that's the thing..
13:28.53stefan27I answer like a few calls a week, I'm happy with my SNOM table phone
13:28.58Harisland line ? use it alot with ISPs, vendors, etc etc
13:29.20SamotIf WebRTC becomes the "Well I don't warrant enough use to have a softphone app" it's not going anywhere.
13:29.54Harissoftphone may not work on every platfor
13:29.56Samotstefan27: I'm talking about offices that have agents on the road..
13:29.56Harisplatform
13:30.00Harisbut browsers do work on most
13:30.04SamotBut they want connected for communication.
13:30.16Harisbrowsers work across any platform
13:30.27stefan27yeah that's one perk of webrtc, no installation so you get very free seating
13:30.32HarisI should use the word 'any' sparingly here
13:30.33SamotBria works on iOS, Android, Windows and Mac
13:30.42fileto me it's about the quality and experience
13:30.46stefan27if it runs in chrome environments without bad network rules that is
13:30.46SamotThere is a reason Bria is the top softphone client for businesses.
13:31.12Dirk23Samot: FYI. i got everything up and running! Thnx for all your help and so
13:31.21Samotstefan27: I'm talking about more than calls.
13:31.26filewonders what he's started
13:31.34SamotPresence, BLF, IM
13:31.55stefan27my mobile devices always run out of power because Im sloppy with charging :(
13:31.57SamotThese are things that offices will want for their mobile users or telecommuting users
13:32.05Harisme too
13:32.08stefan27but yes, I like bria in those odd cases
13:32.16SamotWebRTC does not do that yet.
13:32.21Hariswant a phone that doesn't need charging in a week's time :D
13:32.35SamotSo it being adopted by offices that need a client to support all those things won't happen.
13:32.52fileWebRTC will never do those, the client built on top of it would
13:33.02stefan27It's beyond my competence to judge this, but I hear WebRTC takes security very seriously, so you might get safer encryptions with it than with say zoiper' encryption?
13:33.03[TK]D-FenderCan I get that in corn-flower blue?
13:33.03SamotTherefore the providers to those offices will not adopt it quickly.
13:33.27stefan27(zoiper being an arbitrary mentioned softphone)
13:34.37Samotstefan27: It's HTTP
13:34.37stefan27but judging security would mean you'd have to know the complete audio and signaling paths from end devices
13:34.42SamotIt uses TLS certs.
13:34.49SamotEncryption is as powerful as your TLS
13:35.09SamotFirst, RTP doesn't get encrypted.
13:35.11SamotAt all
13:35.12SamotEver.
13:35.19SamotIt gets encapsulated
13:35.29Haristhey'r building encryption related chips in or near the cpu
13:35.30stefan27when we call out from our webrtc softphone, we go via a PSTN gateway provider, and then routed to some other network, i have no idea how hard or easy it is to eavesdrop those networks
13:35.34Harisin desktops
13:35.37stefan27so it might be irrelevant if our uplink is well encrypted?
13:35.48SamotWell there is no encryption on the PSTN
13:35.49SamotAt all.
13:36.04stefan27but how hard is it to eavesdrop on calls?
13:36.18SamotThat's relevant
13:36.21SamotTo a lot of factors.
13:36.30SamotIncluding the person(s) trying to easedrop
13:37.10stefan27well sure, the person might be carrying a hidden microphone someone put in his pocket
13:37.42HarisPSTN doesn't need encryption, unless someone is directly hooked into your TELCO
13:37.44SamotSure so that would require them to be next to the person making the call
13:37.48Haristhat'd be the govt or the corp
13:37.49SamotAnd only get one side of the call.
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13:38.15SamotWhat?
13:38.28SamotThere's no encryption because, copper.
13:38.36SamotAnalog
13:40.44stefan27I've come incorrectly come to use the term PSTN "for everything outside our own VoIP-world"
13:40.58stefan27are the mobile networks counted under PSTN?
13:41.46Harisno
13:41.58Haristraditional land line
13:42.20stefan27so if PSTN is just the set of analog land lines and the interconnecting devices
13:42.24SamotPublic Switched Telephone Network
13:42.33SamotEVERYTHING is on the PSTN that is a CALL
13:42.47SamotVoIP, Copper, Mobile
13:42.56SamotIt's how calls get routed over the world
13:43.28SamotThe only time you bypass the PSTN is when you have your own enclosed network between the caller and the callee
13:43.52stefan27right, there's something which is defined by a shared address-space of numbers, e.g. +4642342 and +1342348324823
13:43.54SamotOr in the case of SIP and SIP-to-SIP call.
13:44.08stefan27but is that really PSTN? I'd like to see some rigorous definitions
13:44.16Harisits all monitored by the govt or the folks behind it. no getting around them .. yet
13:44.18Samot9:42:26 AM S<Samot> Public Switched Telephone Network
13:44.36SamotIt's how carriers pass calls between each other
13:45.55Samot"Mobile" is a delivery method
13:45.59SamotLike VoIP
13:46.03SamotOr copper.
13:47.33stefan27I can see how "Public" makes sense since the whole world shares the same address space and +467123712371 doesnt need a context do define the destination, but "Switched Telephone Network" doesn't tell me anything
13:49.17stefan27I know one can talk about packet-switched or circuit-switched networks, but what's that word "Switched" doing there in PSTN
13:50.09stefan27(uh this chain of thought got out of hand)
13:50.18SamotIt was created in like 1940
13:50.30Samot"Switched" means switching between carriers.
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13:51.43SamotAs a carrier if you want your subscribers to call or get calls to/from people on other carriers, it has to be routed
13:51.58SamotThe two carriers need to be able to talk to each other and send the call between them.
13:52.40DugroinHello everybody.. I have a little question.. maybe someone can help me. I would like to change the sound played to the caller, when he dials.. I would like to set up there a sound like 'welcome to blablabla, etc...' does some one knows how to do that ?
13:54.40[TK]D-Fenderclarify the call flow you're loking for exactly.
13:54.49SamotWell actually before the 1940's really, the North American Number Plan was created in the 40's.
13:55.36[TK]D-FenderDugroin, If you're referring to * processing an incoming call, that's all your dialplan.  You're the one picking the apps to run against that call.
13:55.56DugroinThe call comes from a sip channel.. what I want is that the caller (placing the call) hears a 'waiting music', instead of the normal ring tone...
13:56.09[TK]D-FenderDugroin, So if yuo want a recording, then go record it and use Playback() or Background() if you are looking to use it in an IVR
13:56.28[TK]D-Fenderwhat is causing the ringing?
13:56.34[TK]D-Fenderthe call has arrivied at your server
13:56.43[TK]D-Fenderwhat are you doing that is passing back ringing exactly?
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13:57.20fooI have someone in Vienna who is going to send a text to a number. Before I ask him to do that, anyone happen to know what average costs may be for him to send a text to an American number?
13:58.29[TK]D-Fendernope
13:58.39[TK]D-Fenderask the telco
13:59.13fooI'm beginning to wonder if people using SMS for an onboarding process is a good idea. It made sense in the US... but I thought anyone else texting a US number has to pay more $ (even though it's only < 5 text messages).
13:59.20fooOr, I wonder if I could buy phone numbers in different parts of the world. hm
13:59.27fooProbably
14:00.21Dugroind-fender, could I get somewhere if I try something like Set(CHANNEL(musicclass)=blablabla) N
14:00.23Dugroin?
14:01.15igcewieling1Dugroin: in the dialplan.
14:01.18Rac-onfoo: getting foreign numbers on sip isnt that hard. but certain country's have very strict rules, like being registered at the local chamber-of-commerce or even having an office-address in the region you want a number in
14:01.41Dugroinigcewieling1, what do you mean :-( ?
14:01.58[TK]D-FenderDugroin, I asked what you are doing that is CAUSING ringing.
14:02.04[TK]D-FenderDugroin, what APP?
14:02.08fooRac-on: I see. Since this specific app reaches a worldwide audience, I'm thinking having alternatives (eg. e-mail / text a US number) is best and people can decide what they want to do
14:02.12igcewieling1Dugroin: looks like you you need to learn Asterisk.
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14:02.25fooRac-on: This is for an onboarding process, I thought SMS made it as easy as possible (and it does in US). Appreciate your trip
14:02.28footip *
14:02.41Dugroinigcewieling1, indeed... any help ?
14:02.47igcewieling1~book
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14:02.57igcewieling1there you go.
14:03.23[TK]D-Fender[TK]D-Fender> Dugroin, I asked what you are doing that is CAUSING ringing.
14:03.23[TK]D-Fender<[TK]D-Fender> Dugroin, what APP?
14:04.20Harisyour PSTN, as with the rest of your infrastructure is monitored
14:04.26Harisheavily
14:04.32Dugroineuh.. d-fender... how can I find that out ? The phone rings.. because there is a 'Goto' to it.. :-(
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14:04.55Haristhere's no way your going to get that call route to get the bad guys out without a fight
14:04.58[TK]D-FenderDugroin,  Goto doesn't cause ringing
14:05.01[TK]D-FenderDIAL rings things
14:05.05[TK]D-FenderQUEUE rings things
14:05.47[TK]D-FenderWhen you get an incoming call YOU are the reason your caller hears ringing after it arrives, typically because YOU call OUT to something else and the ringing is PASSED on.
14:06.07[TK]D-FenderYou should not be unaware of what steps your caller is actually going through
14:06.34DugroinI have access to the asterisk logs, if that is what you mean...
14:06.46[TK]D-FenderNo.
14:06.50[TK]D-FenderWe shouldn't need "logs"
14:06.54[TK]D-Fenderthis is YOUR server
14:06.59[TK]D-Fenderwhat are YOU doing with the call?
14:07.19[TK]D-Fenderthat caller is hearing ringing for a REASON.
14:08.03Dugroinwhen the call arrive, it is send in a diaplan... and it this dialplan, there is a 'Goto' which makes the phone ring on one side and the caller hearing a ring sound on the other side...
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14:09.11[TK]D-FenderNo.
14:09.16[TK]D-FenderGoto() has nothing to do with ringing
14:09.25igcewieling1Dugroin: Goto does NOT cause a phone to ring.  It does NOTHING except jump to another place in the dialplan.
14:09.39igcewieling1Perhaps you should read the Asterisk book.
14:09.50stefan27happy friday everyone; im off to drink beer
14:10.03[TK]D-FenderThis is looking to be the case...
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14:32.32pawieckiDugroin: To make things a bit simpler: 1. log into your asterisk server, 2. enter the CLI (asterisk -vvvr), 3. make the call, 4. hangup, 5. check step-by-step what has happened in the CLI and try to understand it. If you are unsure, inside that same CLI, enter 'core show application Goto' or 'core show application dial' and so on. Step by step, learn those things and understand what is actually happening.
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14:38.21Wimdevhi, has anyone used a letsencypt cert for asterisk tls?
14:38.49Wimdevwhen i set the tlscertfile and reload sip i get TLS/SSL error loading cert file.
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14:40.15Wimdevdo i need to concatenate the cert.pem with the letsencrypt intermediate certificate?
14:40.27igcewieling1Wimdev: Welcome to the hell which is TLS.
14:40.33Wimdev:)
14:40.41igcewieling1Did you load the cert into your phone?
14:41.05Wimdevim not even there yet. im just trying to get asterisk to listen on TLS
14:41.39igcewieling1post the error message.
14:42.23SamotLet's Encrypt requires port 80 access to the server.
14:44.35WimdevSamot, that part went ok
14:45.09Wimdevigcewieling1, i figured id move the certificates to /etc/asterisk and now i no longer have the error....
14:45.24Wimdevtcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5061            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      112        61874881    1608/asterisk
14:46.00Wimdevi did try a !cat /old/cert/path from asterisk cli just to see if it could actually read the file
14:46.18Wimdevthe default path is /etc/letsencrypt/live/domain/
14:52.30Wimdevanyway, should have waited 5 more minutes to ask in here i guess :-).
14:53.00igcewieling1In my opinion, if you have to load the CA cert or intermediate cert into all the devices anyway when using discount CAs, then why not generate your own.
14:54.11SamotWimdev: Show your peer settings from sip.conf for a peer trying to use TLS
14:56.30Wimdevi have it working now. could register a Yealink to it
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16:03.41forgotmynickSamot are you feeling better buddy?
16:03.59SamotI was feeling fine before.
16:04.17forgotmynickthere's no reason to hide the tantrum you had before, it happens
16:04.37SamotI wasn't aware I was hiding something.
16:04.53forgotmynickyou're not very perceptive then are you
16:05.07SamotPardon?
16:08.25[TK]D-FenderWould be nice if that description was coherent phrase to phrase, but I suppose I'm being too picky
16:14.03SamotI thought there'd be more.
16:14.09Samotshrugs.
16:15.33[TK]D-FenderHow would one hide a previous tantrum?  Scrub IRC logs?  Is that where this is assumed to be going?
16:16.07[TK]D-FenderThen hiding the hiding...
16:16.17SamotHence my statement that I wasn't aware I was hiding something.
16:16.24SamotIt was in the open.
16:16.38SamotI mean it was no where near "tantrum" levels for me.
16:16.42SamotBut yeah it happened.
16:16.48[TK]D-FenderI figured I'd start with the first failure before building on it :)
16:16.59[TK]D-FenderFor you know ... context.
16:17.06SamotPsssh.
16:17.15Samotcontext is something in dialplan.
16:17.24[TK]D-FenderAnd voicemail
16:17.32SamotAnd well, everything else.
16:18.08SamotI'm curious has to how my perception skills where called into question.
16:20.48SamotBecause I apparently didn't perceive me doing something openly as hiding.
16:25.55SamotWell that was all very anti-climatic.
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17:40.28TheGallopingFoxhow long will the 13 branch be supported for?
17:42.01igcewieling1TheGallopingFox: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Versions
17:42.43TheGallopingFoxthanks
17:42.54TheGallopingFox2020-10-24 wow nice
17:43.27igcewieling1LTS branches are supported for a long time.
17:44.04TheGallopingFoxi try and do everything LTS these days, including kernels
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17:45.27TheGallopingFoxand i guess the upgrade to 15 will be pretty smooth anyhow
17:46.44TheGallopingFoxfrom a fresh install of 13, i have these errors in the log with nothing configured at all http://sprunge.us/IMQY
17:47.02TheGallopingFoxto stop those errors would i need to disable some modules?
17:58.19[TK]D-Fenderwell it's saying you're missing config files... so "nothing configured at all" is your actual problem there.
17:58.36[TK]D-Fender[Apr 27 23:06:08] ERROR[16845] config_options.c: Unable to load config file 'res_parking.conf' <- probably one you WILL want to fix
17:59.08[TK]D-FenderMany of the rest are used much less rarely.  Take your pick on how you want to handle these
17:59.26[TK]D-FenderEither noload-ing them or providing an appropriate config
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18:17.06TheGallopingFox[TK]D-Fender: would it be better to copy over all the sample configs to /etc/asterisk then just configure each config, ie, disable them
18:17.33TheGallopingFoxif they are not required
18:18.17TheGallopingFoxthen asterisk will not complain about missing configs
18:18.38[TK]D-FenderIf they are not required then disabling is perfectly valid and more efficient in the end
18:18.41[TK]D-Fenderjust be sure of it
18:18.43TheGallopingFox<PROTECTED>
18:19.04TheGallopingFoxok thanks
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18:57.42mubHow bad of an idea is it to have 3+ asterisk servers behind a NAT? My provider (les.net) says not to do this, but it's working fine so far..
18:58.17mubthey're all sharing one WAN IP, but it seems my NAT settings are good
19:09.06[TK]D-FenderEach server should be bound to its own different SIP port # and RTP range
19:09.11[TK]D-Fenderaside from that you should be OK
19:20.28mubOh snap, that's a great idea
19:20.32mubthank you [TK]D-Fender
19:20.52tuxd00dI’m trying to help out a company that is having trouble sending calls to their main provider (which looks like it is running a SipWise product).   Outgoing calls are rejected due to what looks like unsatisfied proxy auth although subsequent INVITES inlcude “Proxy-Authorization”. Calls work to an alternate provider.  Incoming calls are fine.  http://pastebin.ca/3804234
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19:32.02bidkStruggeling a bit trying to "migrate" and old installation..  Gets this in my log:
19:32.18bidkpbx.c: No application 'SetMusicOnHold' for extension (from-external-custom, s, 3)
19:32.36tuxd00dbidk: FreePBX?
19:33.22bidkYup
19:33.42bidkknown issue ?
19:34.21bidkI am not so experienced in asterisk/freepbx - but I had the setup running on a really old version :-)
19:34.39tuxd00dThis isn’t the place for FreePBX questions… your issue isn’t with Asterisk, it’s with FreePBX configuration.  I’m sorry.
19:35.11bidkThat's okay...
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19:47.09Samottuxd00d: They aren't authorizing the call properly
19:47.20tuxd00dThe client or the provider?
19:47.23Samottuxd00d: Asterisk is responding to the 407 with auth digest..
19:47.34SamotAnd they are kicking that back.
19:47.41tuxd00dSo send clear text?
19:47.44SamotSo yeah, check their registration
19:47.54SamotWhat do you mean?
19:47.55SamotNo.
19:48.05SamotIt's responding properly.
19:48.16SamotThey just don't like the stuff being sent.
19:48.20SamotCould be a bad password
19:48.30SamotAuth name could be wrong..
19:48.49tuxd00dSIP Reg uses the same password, but I’ll have the provider double check.
19:48.57tuxd00dand same username
19:49.20tuxd00dThanks Samot
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22:10.36UncleKiwihi people hope all is well - i am trying to make my FXO device dial a number and it dont see to be having any joy
22:11.20UncleKiwichan_sip.c:22885 handle_response_invite: Received response: "Forbidden" from
22:11.48UncleKiwiit's a grandstream HT-503
22:12.04UncleKiwiit is registered as a peers
22:12.06UncleKiwipeer
22:12.18UncleKiwiit take incomming calls ok
22:12.26UncleKiwifrom the pstn
22:13.11UncleKiwibut when i try to make a call out over pstn using this FXO device asterisk returns the message above *chan_sip
22:13.16SamotNeed to see more
22:13.35SamotAn actual attempt
22:13.45UncleKiwimm ok
22:15.49UncleKiwiexten => _77,n,dial(SIP/pstn2/500)
22:16.01UncleKiwii just created that for testing it
22:16.26SamotOk
22:16.47SamotShow a call attempt with a sip debug.
22:19.13UncleKiwiwhats the best pastebin thing to use
22:19.42Samot~pb
22:19.43infobotmethinks pastebin is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
22:22.06UncleKiwihttps://pastebin.com/0WyQvcAE
22:25.11SamotSeriously?
22:25.21UncleKiwiahaha
22:25.44UncleKiwisorry
22:25.47UncleKiwiwhat did i do ?
22:26.02SamotLook at your pastebin
22:26.39UncleKiwiopps
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22:26.43UncleKiwiwait
22:27.16UncleKiwihttps://pastebin.com/3KLWYX0h
22:28.24UncleKiwithat was someone else paste
22:28.52SamotYour GS is blocking the call
22:29.00UncleKiwihmm thanks
22:29.23UncleKiwihmm i wonder why
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23:46.23UncleKiwido i register the fxo as a peer or friend
23:47.02UncleKiwithe grandstream fxo device wants to register to asterisk and it does so correctly
23:47.15UncleKiwii just dont seem to be able to make calls out over it
23:47.38UncleKiwii am just attempting to make it dial 31 for example
23:48.37UncleKiwithe peer or friend name is pstn2
23:49.17UncleKiwii made an extention 77 that when i dial from another phone will cause Dial(SIP/pstn2/31)
23:49.24UncleKiwithat should work right ?
23:50.23UncleKiwii am going to drink some beer because this is stressful
23:51.35UncleKiwiis the format important Dial(SIP/31@pstn2)
23:52.56UncleKiwias you said Samot the gs is blocking
23:53.10UncleKiwii have a cisco spa3102 here
23:53.15UncleKiwii know that will play the game
23:53.22UncleKiwii might test that
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