IRC log for #asterisk on 20170412

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00:18.47*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.15.0 (2017/04/07), 11.25.1 (2016/12/08), Standard: 14.4.0 (2017/04/07); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.6.0 (2017/01/27) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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00:34.09jaredkipeHello all!
00:35.26jaredkipeI could use some help.  I've been working on an asterisk 14.4.0 docker for a little while now.  Everything has been going really well until I went to try to do some TLS web sockets. It doesn't give any sort of error or explanation, but it certainly does not bind to the port I've told it to.
00:36.11jaredkipeIs there anything build specific to make this work?  (I've also tried 13.15 with the same effect, no log, but no HTTPS binding either.)
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01:05.54CRCinAUhrrrm ok
01:05.58CRCinAUso I do have one more problem.
01:06.16CRCinAUWhen trying to Dial(PJSIP/901), I end up with:
01:06.29CRCinAUdigest_create_request_with_auth: Unable to create request with auth.  No auth credentials for any realms in challenge.
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01:07.43CRCinAUand 'realm' is blank in pjsip show auth 901
01:12.24CRCinAUso I'm guessing this is another difference between chan_sip and pjsip
01:14.41jaredkipeHas anyone ever gotten http +tls to work?
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02:51.25Samotkaredkipe: Yes.
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03:40.30igcewielingsip scanners are out in force tonight.
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05:02.01Maliuta_it's not just sip. My smtp is being hit hard too
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05:47.32drmessanoIt's cyber warfare
05:47.44drmessanoHightened tensions right now
05:48.07drmessanoUsually see an uptick after someone pisses in someone elses Cheerios
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06:35.03Maliuta_Considering who is living in the white house ...
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07:25.36drmessanoor Pyongyang or Damascus
07:26.15drmessanoSorta silly to blame all the worlds problems on one guy
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12:00.27user981432Hey, I'm currently doing my first steps on Asterisk here as a small PBX. I'm currently wondering why Asterisk uses a random source port when sending REGISTER messages using TLS/TCP - normal?
12:02.20user981432I mean, my soft- or deskphones use the SIP listening port as a source port for SIP messages
12:07.51fileif using UDP it would be the same, if using TCP/TLS it would be a random source port as that is how TCP and TLS works
12:08.15filethe operating system gives the connection a local ephemeral port
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12:09.34user981432file: Hm, okay, makes sense because of TCP session tuples
12:10.40user981432file: If using TCP, how do you make sure Asterisk is reachable for SIP traffic from the upstream registrar? Do I explicitly need to open port 5061 locally?
12:11.21filethat depends on the behavior of the remote upstream... the Contact specifies the IP address+port to contact back on, so you could need that open
12:11.27filebut they may also reuse the existing connection if it is up
12:13.06user981432Hm, Asterisk sends the local port 5061 as a contact
12:13.26fileyes, because it expects a connection back on that port
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12:14.26user981432So I'd need to make sure the TCP connections stays up if I have any hopes of NOT needing to open a local port.
12:14.41fileright.
12:14.49fileand that assumes the remote side will reuse the connection.
12:15.16user981432Can I strip the contact header?
12:15.32user981432I mean, it should be RFC-compliant, shouldn't it?
12:16.25filestrip the contact header? Contact is mandatory
12:16.37user981432file: Are you sure? On a REGISTER?
12:16.41fileyes.
12:16.46user981432https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3261#page-57
12:17.28user981432Is this RFC superseded?
12:17.36fileno
12:17.44user981432Then it isn't mandatory
12:18.19user981432Okay, that sounds bitchy. I really meant to ask whether it is the current RFC
12:18.20fileif you want to actually add a Contact to be reachable... it is
12:19.05filelack of a Contact header would return a 200 OK with current bindings, it would not actually do a registration
12:20.45user981432Hm, yes
12:21.03user981432That IS annoying.
12:21.12filethat is the way SIP registration works.
12:21.27user981432Yeah, I've only so far used UDP
12:23.37user981432DTLS ftw :(
12:25.28user981432Thank you for your help!
12:25.38fileyw
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14:13.36dnitHi
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14:15.44dnitHi anyone there ?
14:16.03SamotNo.
14:16.15dnitLOL
14:16.27dnitCan I get a quick help.
14:18.23SamotNo.
14:18.44SamotUnless you're going to ask the question about the help you need...
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14:23.34Samot?
14:24.24dnitSorry I was exploring a bit more before asking.
14:24.57dnitI am getting error: pbx.c:4489 ast_func_write: Function PJSIP_HEADER not registered
14:25.08SamotAre you using PJSIP?
14:26.24dnitI am using PJSIP_HEADER(add,some)=${someothervar})
14:26.33dnitI dont't think I am using PJSIP
14:26.45SamotThen why are you using a PJSIP function?
14:26.50dnitMy astyerisk version is 13.6
14:26.59SamotThat doesn't clarify.
14:27.07SamotThere is Chan_SIP and Chan_PJSIP.
14:27.50dnitYes, but chan_PJSIP has completely different syntax for sip.conf right ?
14:27.52SamotIt say it's not registered probably means that The chan_pjsip module isn't loaded.
14:27.57SamotNo.
14:28.06SamotBecause PJSIP doesn't go in sip.conf
14:28.14SamotIt goes in pjsip.conf
14:28.16dnitHow can I load it ?
14:28.32SamotThe same way you load any other modules.
14:29.27Samotmodule load chan_pjsip.so
14:30.09SamotAnd then make sure modules.conf has the right settings to load chan_pjsip.so
14:30.39SamotBut if you make chan_sip peers/trunks/extensions then using PJSIP functions are pointless.
14:32.15dnitYes I think I need to do more research, since our production servers are workin on the same code I pulled. :(
14:36.30SamotWell is your production server a pure asterisk server?
14:36.39SamotIs it running PJSIP?
14:36.55dnityes asterisk 13.6
14:37.02SamotJust asterisk?
14:37.12SamotIt's not FreePBX or some other distro using Asterisk?
14:37.27dnitSorry not sure what you mean by just asterisk. Its not freepbx
14:37.56dnitYes just asterisk.
14:38.00SamotI mean, you're not using some distro that has a GUI or other features that use Asterisk.
14:38.17SamotWell you should compare what is actually running and installed on the production server and make sure the new server is doing the same.
14:38.28SamotJust pulling code doesn't mean it's going to just work.
14:40.16dnitYou are right, I am just afraid of touching prod server.
14:40.35SamotYou just to look.
14:40.58SamotIf you don't know if it's running PJSIP or not and you write things for PJSIP that's kind of a waste, don't you think?
14:42.01dnitAsterisk certified/13.8-cert2 this is what I have on prod.
14:46.09SamotThat doesn't really mean anything.
14:46.16SamotIt's the version of Asterisk you are using.
14:46.36SamotThat doesn't tell me anything about what channel drivers are in use, what other features or functions are being used.
14:46.49dnitI am sorry how can I verify its using pjsip and not chansip ?
14:46.52SamotIf you're building a new system to replace the production system, you need to know what the production system is dong.
14:46.58SamotLook at the configs.
14:47.16SamotIt's your server, you're going to have to look at how it was configured.
14:48.45wdoekesasterisk -nrx 'module show' | grep sip
14:49.33wdoekesbut you should know soon enough after looking in sip.conf and pjsip.conf; you're unlikely to have production config in both
14:50.40dnitYes unfortunately there is configuration in both the files, and all this time I though we werent using pjsip
14:50.49dnitProd is using pjsip.
14:51.33dnitDo I have to build asterisk from source again to include pjsip ?
14:52.15dnitBecuase I can't do module load chan_pjsip.so
14:52.33dnitIt throws error.
14:55.56SamotYou need to compile Asterisk with PJSIP
14:56.21dnitThanks for your help.
14:56.30dnitAppreciate it!
14:56.37dnitHave a good day!
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16:50.30canthus13I've got a customer who wants to be able to essentially pick through the parking lot from any phone and return the calls back to the lot with one button push. The closest I can come up with is to throw several extensions into a ring group, add them to line keys, and then he can switch around through the line keys at will, returning them to hold when he selects the next line.  Unfortunately, I can't find a way to allow another phone to also
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16:59.10igcewielingcanthus13: that is all possible, except for the one button push
16:59.53igcewielingYou could add a line key for each parking lot slot, but not for each call currently in the parking lot.
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17:27.14igcewielingheh, I just realized none of the Asterisk sounds files include the word "toll" or the words "long distance"
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17:43.51malcolmd:D  what is this interlata dialing of which you speak?
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18:01.39canthus13igcewieling: I've got line keys for each slot... but that's too many keypresses for him.  And apparently nobody at Sangoma thinks it's doable, either.  So.. this dude will probably quit us, go to comcast, and find out that they're gonna run into the same thing:  He's too picky.
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18:02.52igcewielingcanthus13: Your only option at this point is to swap out the damaged user with an undamaged one.
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19:04.31canthus13igcewieling: Pretty sure he's gonna go be comcast's problem soon, so...
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21:14.10hdonhi all :) this is going to sound a little silly: is there such a thing as a phone call?
21:16.02SamotNo, not at all.
21:16.16hdoni didn't think so
21:16.31hdonit seems like something phone companies invented for billing purposes
21:16.37SamotI mean before Bell figured it out.
21:16.40hdonbut in reality there are only bridges and channels
21:16.57hdon:C
21:17.06SamotWhat bridges and channels?
21:17.38hdonthese
21:17.41hdongestures vaguely
21:17.45hdonsee?
21:29.36drmessanoAre you ON something?
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21:32.43hdonforgive me drmessano, i'm an asterisk newb
21:32.44hdonsuppose Alice calls Bob. then Cindy joins. then Alice leaves. then Dennis joins. then Bob leaves. is this one "phone call?"
21:33.45hdonis it possible to have a more exotic type of bridge that can split into two bridges that somehow divides up the channels of the original bridge between them?
21:34.08hdonsuch a thing is at least conceivable to me, and it is not obvious to me where the "phone call" or "phone calls" exist in such a scenario
21:34.15SamotOK..
21:34.23hdondoes this make a little more sense?
21:34.28SamotParty A calls DID
21:34.42SamotDID is routed via the PSTN to your endpoint, which in this case is Asterisk.
21:35.13SamotAsterisk sends that call directly to your phone...
21:35.24SamotParty A is now in a call with Party B
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21:35.40SamotThat is a call.
21:35.58hdonok but you have described what i think is the simplest use case of a phone system
21:36.07hdonwhat about in more complex scenarios?
21:36.15SamotA phone system is not needed for that scenario.
21:36.17SamotAt all
21:36.39SamotParty B wants to make and receive calls on the PSTN.
21:36.44SamotNo PBX is needed for that.
21:36.51klowAnyone know why "pjsip show channelstats" would say "ulaw" when I call the echo test, even though the softphone says OPUS,  and ulaw isnt even in the list of allowed codecs anywhere ?
21:37.00hdonmmm
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21:37.09klowUsing pjsip and OPUS and getting two-way audio on calling echo test, but nothing between 2 phones.
21:38.09Samotklow: I don't believe there is a transcoding path for opus <--> ulaw
21:39.22hdonhmm
21:39.38hdonok, well, setting aside the more existential questions i have for the moment
21:39.40Samothdon; What are you trying to do?
21:39.47hdoni do have a more direct question
21:39.55hdonhow is call recording facilitated in asterisk?
21:40.15SamotAsterisk has a few methods to record calls.
21:40.28SamotYou would have to determine what is the best option for what you need.
21:40.44hdonis there a detailed overview of all these methods some place?\
21:41.15SamotYes, the Asterisk wiki and the sample config files for Asterisk.
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21:43.14k3asd`hi there, how can I understand why my pbx does not receive any calls?
21:44.20k3asd`I set up the sip and extensions section but when I use my phone to call a number configured the calls dropped
21:44.28k3asd`if you want I can share my conf
21:50.22hdonlots of instances of "record" in the configuration samples are not about recording :3
21:51.27hdonor, not the kind of recording i want
21:51.42hdonlots of CDR-related matches
21:51.49hdona few DNS-related matches
22:01.38SamotYou are asking vague questions.
22:02.24igcewielingThe answers you seek are already within your reach,  grasshopper.
22:05.20hdonSamot, yes i know
22:05.37hdonsorry
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23:15.39Geriatrixhey guys - how do i install asterisk on centos via package manager these days - i used to use asterisk now and maintain it with yum but seems that's not an option any more - i need a new install but i dont' want freepbx
23:31.31hdonGeriatrix, http://packages.asterisk.org/centos/ ?
23:31.40hdonGeriatrix, looks out of date though
23:31.59filewe do not currently maintain packages
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23:35.34hdonSamot, ok so, my issue is that, whenever i transfer a call, the recording ends
23:35.52hdoni'm given to understand this is kind of a sore spot for asterisk admins
23:35.55hdonis that true?
23:43.38Geriatrixhdon: yes - seems so - there has to be a way to install a package and have it updates and maintained without having to compile each time ?
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23:51.03hdonGeriatrix, someone needs to maintain those updates for you. i couldn't tell you who might offer those for your platform. sorry
23:52.13Geriatrixbut digium used to do that - is that no longer the case ?
23:56.23fileDigium does not maintain packages currently
23:58.04Geriatrix:( thats a bummer :)
23:58.13Geriatrixwhat's the best practise then ?
23:58.28Geriatrixi dont' need freepbx
23:58.38Geriatrixbut woudl like packaged version of asterisk :)

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