IRC log for #asterisk on 20160801

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12:25.01*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.10.0 (2016/07/21), 11.23.0 (2016/07/21), Standard: 14.0.0-beta1 (2016/07/27); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.5.0 (2016/03/28) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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12:28.55[sID]Samot: But how ?
12:29.26SamotWell what is your CPS limit?
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12:43.21[sID]Samot: 10 peer secend
12:43.36[sID]second
12:43.46SamotSo you're sending more than 10 calls per second?
12:44.53[sID]So, how do I send it gets block my ip
12:49.30SamotWell why are you sending to many calls at once?
12:52.14[sID]Soft Call center for sending many agents
12:53.11SamotSo auto dialing?
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12:53.49[sID]Yes
12:54.03SamotThen throttle the autodialer.
12:54.32[sID]I have to reduce the level dialplan
12:54.51SamotHow are the calls being initiated?
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12:56.48[sID]By sip account
12:57.16SamotHow is the auto-dialing happening?
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12:58.02SamotI doubt that all the agents have managed to synchronize themselves to manually send 10+ calls at the exact same second.
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13:07.09peacehopeToday when someone call here and press 1, it always goes to one extension. I'd like it distribute between two extensions. One time to extension 'A', another time to extension 'B'.
13:07.12peacehopeIs it possible?
13:09.46[TK]D-Fenderpeacehope, it's yyour dialplan, do whatever you want
13:09.50[sID]somepoortech: by soft call center
13:09.59[TK]D-Fenderpeacehope, Dial one.. then dial the other.  Nothing more to it than that
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13:11.35[sID]Samot by soft call center
13:11.39[sID]Samot: There are 10 agents and soft is set to 2 peer agent.
13:11.49peacehope[TK]D-Fender: It's support option, and I want to divide between each person here. I've never configured an Asterisk. I suppose it can be done on extensions-in.conf file here. Right?
13:11.54[sID]Samot And soft sends agement for a asterisk and the rings
13:12.18Samot[sID]: Then drop it to one per agent. You shouldn't send more calls than agents anyways.
13:12.39[TK]D-Fenderpeacehope, call processing = dialplan = extensions.conf
13:12.44[sID]Samot: Regardless of me.
13:13.02[sID]I have to handle this
13:13.15Samot[sID]: Tell the system that is sending the calls to not send more than 10 at a time.
13:13.17SamotThat's it.
13:14.33[TK]D-Fender~book
13:14.33infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
13:14.35[TK]D-Fenderpeacehope, ^^^
13:14.42[sID]Samot: But how does this limit?
13:14.46[sID]I have 3 trunk and each must be a limit one 10 second 7
13:14.55[TK]D-Fenderpeacehope, You'll have plenty of reading to do to learn how the dialplan works....
13:15.15[TK]D-Fenderpeacehope, Did you just inherit your system from a previous admin?
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13:15.26Samot[sID]: You're using a program that is sending the calls, tell the program not to send so many calls.
13:16.13[sID]I can not interfere in this program.
13:16.21SamotWell that's the problem.
13:16.30[sID]These are constants that can not be changed
13:16.36SamotYou want to fix the problem, that's the solution.
13:16.48SamotWell there's no way you're going to get your CPS increased.
13:17.02SamotSo you have to limit your calls based on your CPS.
13:17.08[sID]It is not a solution.
13:17.26SamotSo your auto-dialing solution is causing your provider to block you.
13:17.42[sID]It is not a solution.
13:17.42[TK]D-Fenderlimit them in the dialplan then...
13:18.04[sID][TK]D-Fender: yes, It wants to do
13:18.14[TK]D-FenderGo do it then
13:18.28peacehope[TK]D-Fender: There is nobody for manipulate this here. I am a sysadmin with no experience with Asterisk. Every call comes to me, and I want to divide between me and another person, being fair.
13:18.53[sID][TK]D-Fender: Only I am looking for help has just as you do.
13:18.54[TK]D-Fenderpeacehope, depends on what you base "fair" on.
13:19.17peacehope[TK]D-Fender: call 1 for me, call 2 for him, call 3 for me, call 4 for him...
13:19.23[TK]D-Fender[sID], Go shove your call data in a DB  and check before dialing.
13:19.39[TK]D-Fender[sID], this is up to you tto come up with how you want to measure them.
13:20.26[TK]D-Fender[sID], or track the last X calls with some mroe local storage like AstDB and calc the time between tthe first & last.
13:20.38[sID][TK]D-Fender: It will be difficult to calculate the connection in real time based on the base
13:21.26[sID][TK]D-Fender: I was thinking more on the global variables somehow set it up.
13:22.30[TK]D-FenderGlobals, AstDB, external DB, whatever.  Come up with whatever method you want for the storage and calc the times ebtween 2 points
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13:24.18peacehope[TK]D-Fender: This is my extensions-in.conf: http://pastebin.com/GQUKMzzS . Could you please take a look? It's the option 1. Extensions: 1040 is me, and 1030 is the other person.
13:29.20[sID][TK]D-Fender: I like sum each call by the trunk
13:34.54[TK]D-Fender[sID], Any way you want , go for it
13:38.51[TK]D-Fender<[TK]D-Fender> peacehope, depends on what you base "fair" on.
13:40.59peacehope[TK]D-Fender: Just alternate. Call 1 for me, call 2 for him, call 3 for me, call 4 for him... I want to divide between us. And when one is busy, ring to the other (it already happens).
13:42.06[TK]D-FenderThere are dialplan ways, but those don'ttend to work well if you have multiple simultaneous calls
13:42.19[TK]D-Fenderyour other option is a queue in that case
13:45.11peacehope[TK]D-Fender: It's only 2 lines today. Maybe it will not be a problem so.
13:46.11[TK]D-FenderYou'll have to track which one you called last, and then flip that just before you dial the other.
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13:50.39peacehope[TK]D-Fender: Is there a simple way to do it randomly between two extensions instead tracking?
13:51.13[TK]D-Fendertracking = just flip-flopping a single value in astDB or a global variable
13:51.19[TK]D-Fenderbetter than random
13:51.33[TK]D-Fendereither way 1 check, 1 value to flip.  2 lines of dialplan.
13:55.44fahmadi am using grandstream GXW410x Gateway, I have two telephone lines which are allowed to dial 0, i would like asterisk to dial out directly using another channel if 1st channel is busy, i have found only way that we can do it using 991 for port1 992 for port2 but i want both working with single dialing rule
13:57.55Samotfahmad: The answer is still the same.
13:58.04[TK]D-Fenderfahmad, If you expect a single Dial() to do it then you need to configure the gateway to pick the channel that way.  Read its manual to see how to do that.
13:58.48fahmadhmm
13:59.26SamotSee. Answer is still the same.
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14:10.13peacehopeWhat is the term or syntax to identify which extension received the last call? I didn't find any example yet.
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14:11.36peacehope(I am with documentation opened)
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14:12.08[TK]D-FenderThere is no "syntax" to find these things out.  You set a value yourself and check for it.
14:13.13[TK]D-FenderAnd finding a sample that really looks like what you want may be difficult.  Dialplan is programming, and you should have at least a basic sense of programming logic tto do it.
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14:18.28SamotWell that was interesting
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14:18.58peacehope[TK]D-Fender: About Linux and programming it's fine for me. My problem is being Asterisk. I will read about dialplan so. Thanks.
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16:53.34fabio_Hello
16:54.30mubfabio_: Your nick makes me think of sexy dark skinned men
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16:59.28[TK]D-FenderExcept that Fabio was a famous blond-haired Caucasian model & actor...
16:59.40[TK]D-FenderSo why that bring dark-skinned to mind... dunno
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17:20.29ziggotoHello
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17:36.10hdonhi all :) for outbound sip traffic from asterisk, can asterisk be configured on which address it should bind the local end of the socket?
17:37.21hdonour asterisk box has a LAN IP on our locally routable server subnet, and also on our publicly routable server subnet. but when it connects to a peer on the Internet from its address on the local subnet, it gets nat'd like every other workstation in the building to the wrong address.
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17:43.51[TK]D-Fender* will use tthe best interface based on your routing table and whatt you told it to bind to
17:44.07[TK]D-Fenderchan_sip supports binding to all, or one, but not multiple specific
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17:45.41ziggotoHey guys
17:46.11ziggotoCan MixMonitor record audio from WaitForSilence application?
17:46.55ziggotoDoes anyone ever tried?
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17:59.11cuscoyes
17:59.15cuscoah no
17:59.32cuscosorry didn't try with waitforsilence
17:59.33cuscobut I don't see why not anyway
18:17.37hdonhi all :) we're using a script to translate old asterisk configuration to new
18:17.51hdoni'm seeing this error in my log file which looks like a parse error:
18:18.49hdonhttp://ix.io/19Lm ast_expr2.fl: ast_yyerror():  syntax error: syntax error, unexpected '>', expecting $end
18:19.19hdonso i grep for '> 0' because that is cited as being the issue. i see lines generated by freepbx like this: exten => 2004,1,Set(__RINGTIMER=${IF($[${DB(AMPUSER/2004/ringtimer)} > 0]?${DB(AMPUSER/2004/ringtimer)}:${RINGTIMER_DEFAULT})})
18:19.33hdonis it possible that this is no longer valid syntax for asterisk dialplan?
18:19.45hdonor that the configuration translator messed it up?
18:22.40ziggotoThanks cusco, it's worked :)
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18:28.51[TK]D-Fenderhdon, your astDB value is blank and your expression fails because there is literall nothing on the left side
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18:45.20hdon[TK]D-Fender, do i understand then that a sort of "eval" is being used? i didn't expect to encounter the parser being entered after asterisk fully initialized
18:46.05[TK]D-Fenderhuh?
18:46.26hdon[TK]D-Fender, well this looks to me like a parser error, which i would expect to encounter during initialization...
18:46.38[TK]D-FenderWhat "initializattion?
18:46.43[TK]D-Fenderthat is dialplan
18:46.59[TK]D-FenderYou only get an error when the results of its execution fail
18:47.19[TK]D-FenderThere is no "load" QC if tthe minimum syntax is valid
18:47.45[TK]D-Fenderif you use a funtion wrong or in a way that doesn't actually return a proper value where you need one then it will error out
18:48.14hdoni see
18:48.24hdonok, i just didn't expect a parser error
18:48.57[TK]D-Fenderdialplan is evaluated at run-time, not "compiled"
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19:39.26SpaceInvadersHi!
19:39.28SpaceInvadersWhy would
19:39.30SpaceInvaderssame => n,NoOp(File Format = {${FILE_FORMAT(/etc/asterisk/Asterisk-whitelist.txt)})
19:39.32SpaceInvadersreturn
19:39.36SpaceInvaders{u
19:39.44SpaceInvadersrather than just the u (per docs)?
19:39.58SpaceInvadersoops
19:40.05SpaceInvadersplease disregard
19:40.41[TK]D-FenderYes, that was a completely extra brace right at the front...
19:40.43SpaceInvadersIsn't it wonderful and amazing how code does exactly what you tell it to? :^)
19:41.04SpaceInvadersyea I've been staring at it for like 15 minutes and didn't see it until I pasted it, here
19:41.20[TK]D-Fenderand ISO certification doesn't mean your products are good, it just means their defects are reproduced PERFECTLY.
19:41.59SpaceInvadersROFL
19:42.07SpaceInvadersI have some ISO9000 exp :D
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19:49.52KunsiSpaceInvaders: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
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19:54.31SpaceInvaderswhich reminds me of one of my favorite songs!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDy4PZPMDwU
19:56.00SpaceInvadersKunsi that's why I stared at it for 15m lol.  I hate finding stuff after I ask.  But you bring up a good point.  I may start pasting to gedit before I paste in-channel :)
20:08.31SpaceInvadersclearglobalvars=no in [globals] means dialplan reload shouldn't reset a global variable, right?
20:12.52TandyUKyou should always use a pastebin of some sort ;)
20:15.03SamotI love when answers like "not many" are actually worse when converted to real stats.
20:15.15Samot"How many audio issues are reported?"
20:15.19Samot"Not many"
20:15.28Samot"Like? 1 in what?"
20:15.39Samot"Oh like 1 in 4 or 5 maybe more"
20:16.05Samot"So like almost 35% of support issues are audio related, you don't see a problem with this?"
20:16.07Samot"No
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20:46.17TandyUKlol
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21:01.53pdugasRemote Polycom IP501 behind a cheap NAT'ing router at home has been working for weeks but stopped recently.  Am seeing REGISTER request and 401 response on Asterisk box but not the expected REGISTER follow up with the proper auth info using the nonce from the 401.  Am seeing repeated REGISTER and SUBSCRIBE requests after - all 401 unauthorized.  Something wonky with that home router is my guess.  Connected phone to cable modem
21:01.53pdugas(bypassing router) and it worked.  Am I off-base thinking the router is crap?
21:03.14Kunsipdugas: if it works without router, but doesnt work with, there must be something wrong with your router (also, check nat settings in asterisk)
21:04.06pdugasKunsi, nothing changed on the * side in over a year :)
21:04.17Kunsiok
21:04.39pdugasso I don't think the NAT settings are wrong but I'll revisit.  Fishing for ideas like that.  Thx.
21:05.25pdugasNo port forwards or DMZ crap enable on the router. UPnP disabled.  No filters.  Just can't figure out what could have changed.
21:05.54pdugasIt sort of feels like the NAT table in the router is foobar and not remapping the return traffic.
21:06.14pdugasNo way to sniff out there so no whay to really know what's up.
21:06.17pdugasGrrr....
21:08.56Kalaverahey guys I have an issue with incoming calls of one of our sip trunks. I can hear the end who answer but they cant hear me when I call. In the other hand they could her me at some point
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21:53.48philfryI have an issue where phones use analog lines and when i try to dial the log shows it going out over g0 but the phone dialing isn't ringing and the destination never rings either. Where would you start?
21:54.08philfrysorry the outbound trunk is analog
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22:32.30hdonhi all :) how do i ask asterisk to validate configuration files? or reload them? is sighup enough?
22:35.58hdonoh ok i see
22:36.05[TK]D-FenderWHICH files?
22:36.08hdonso my init script has "reload" command which just runs asterisk -rx reload
22:36.14[TK]D-Fender* doesn't do much by way of "validation"
22:36.16hdoni see now what those options mean
22:36.29hdonso my question now is: what if my configuration is bad? will existing calls be ended?
22:40.33hdoncan i write dialplans from the CLI?
22:41.42mubthe asterisk CLI? why not just use nano or vim?
22:42.32hdonmub, well my earlier question was how safe it was to reload asterisk configuration -- do i risk ending current calls by doing this?
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22:42.40hdoni would think the answer is "no" but i am not very experienced
22:42.54mubhdon: I'm the kind of person that would just reload and see
22:43.05mubthen calmly explain to this channel why I don't deserve my position
22:43.11hdonmub, :3
22:43.26mubI say go for it
22:43.33hdonoh no
22:43.38hdonthe whole building has gone quiet
22:43.43muboh no
22:43.44hdonnow everyone is yelling!
22:43.54mubwhat really?
22:43.57hdonasterisk won't come back up!
22:44.05hdonpastebins error log
22:44.06muboh shit, copy the old configs back over
22:44.12mubreload
22:44.14hdoni didn't make copies
22:44.23mubY THO?
22:44.24Kunsinub
22:44.52hdonhttp://asterisk.sourcearchive.com/
22:44.54hdonwhoops
22:44.59hdonhttp://pastebin.com/wwvdjvEj
22:45.02hdonthere is my configuration
22:45.22mubThat's a perfectly valid configuration AFAIK
22:48.17hdonoh my bad
22:48.19hdonbut seriously
22:48.24hdonif i do "dialplan reload"
22:48.27hdonwhat's the worst case scenario?
22:48.37hdoni mean, asterisk should be able to continue serving existing calls, right?
22:55.57[TK]D-FenderYour next call will flow as it's coded
22:58.12Kalaverahey guys I have an issue with incoming calls of one of our sip trunks. I can hear the end who answer but they cant hear me when I call. In the other hand they could her me at some point
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22:59.58[TK]D-FenderYou need to be less vague than "some point"
23:00.19[TK]D-FenderEspecially when talking about multiple calls over some random period of time
23:00.27[TK]D-FenderAnd the first step is always "show the call"
23:00.38[TK]D-FenderNo body, no autopsy.
23:00.40[TK]D-Fender~pb
23:00.41infobotA "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
23:00.42[TK]D-Fender^^^
23:00.50Kalaveraeven thought configuratione didnt change and firewal was opened
23:02.02Kalavera[TK]D-Fender: I am a bit slow I am on the highway
23:04.08[TK]D-FenderStop texting & driving then and come back when you can safely concentrate on this.
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23:13.08[TK]D-Fenderheads out for a bit
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