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| 02:15.49 | MajesticFudgie | Is it even remotely possible to have Asterisk read login details from a database |
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| 02:23.40 | MajesticFudgie | Ideally via an HTTP API or a shell script that can return a status |
| 02:40.08 | lvlinux | MajesticFudgie: If I understand what you are asking correctly, the answer is yes. |
| 02:41.10 | MajesticFudgie | Ah could you give me some pointers as what to look into? |
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| 08:12.52 | kippi | hi, I am trying to up the amount of meetme channels I can have, I know I need to set max_pseudo_channels but I don't have this option under /sys and if I add it to the configuration file I get errors saying unknown option |
| 08:15.12 | drmessano | Which Asterisk version are you running? |
| 08:20.43 | drmessano | Zzzzz |
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| 08:46.55 | jonah | Hi can anyone please help. Asterisk is no longer answering calls and gives this error: my_get_callerid: read returned error: Invalid argument |
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| 12:17.00 | ghost75 | is chan_mobile able to work over pulseaudio in asterisk? |
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| 13:02.53 | drmessano | ghost75: ? |
| 13:03.12 | ghost75 | mh? |
| 13:03.51 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm wondering what BT has to do with PulseAudio... |
| 13:04.59 | WIMPy | It might, but what does it have to do with chan_dongle? |
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| 13:14.28 | ghost75 | WARNING[2821]: chan_mobile.c:3023 sdp_register: Failed to connect sdp and create session. |
| 13:14.33 | ghost75 | not sure where comes from |
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| 13:32.46 | Scuttle | hm....I have a weid issue...I have two phones connected to my asterisk. One softphone, once cellphone. The cellphone connects through my firewall. I can call from the softphone to the cellphone, but when I call from the cellphone to the softphone I get "Ignoring this INVITE request" in the debug-log |
| 13:36.31 | [TK]D-Fender | taht message alone doesn't mean anything |
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| 13:36.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Show the complete CLI with SIP debug. |
| 13:36.41 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 13:36.46 | infobot | A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
| 13:36.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^ |
| 13:37.13 | ghost75 | dont have |
| 13:37.42 | ghost75 | Scuttle: which version on bluez do you have |
| 13:38.01 | ghost75 | Scuttle: forget that |
| 13:39.46 | Scuttle | hrm.... I seem to have more problems than that... |
| 13:39.59 | Scuttle | I can register the phone, but after I make one call, it de-registers |
| 13:40.34 | Scuttle | spits out message about stale nonce |
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| 13:47.24 | hojuruku | does anyone here use siproxd? it's what i want the smallest thing that can re-route sip calls between users behind sipproxy on embedded OS (openwrt) but it adds 2 VIA headers to outgoing sip traffic therefore breaking connectivity with most VSP's like callcentric ippi.fr etc. Has anyone got around this? |
| 13:48.07 | hojuruku | the other solution i was going to try was some smarts with internal dns and rtpproxy :P that will get the job done. but siproxd is more cool. the problem is all the ddns providers make you pay for wildcard on your ddns :P |
| 13:48.42 | hojuruku | why ask here? #siproxd has only the developer in there and he's been asleep a week :P |
| 13:50.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Yes, well this is #notourproblem |
| 13:50.06 | Scuttle | okay, here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Q7yG2FfK - 6001 is the phone making the call, to phone 6000 |
| 13:50.28 | [TK]D-Fender | aaka #not2ndlevelsupport |
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| 13:55.34 | TECFALL | Why do my two peers still show connected even when the passwords do not match? http://pastie.org/10900281 |
| 13:56.25 | Samot | Because you have qualify set. |
| 13:56.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Where do I see "connected"? |
| 13:56.40 | [TK]D-Fender | I see configs.. not results |
| 13:56.45 | Samot | And they are accepting SIP Options from each other? |
| 13:56.52 | [TK]D-Fender | clearly. |
| 13:57.07 | Samot | Therefore sip show peers will show them as OK |
| 13:57.10 | Samot | and Monitored. |
| 13:57.20 | Samot | But in no way are either of those setup for registration. |
| 13:57.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Which means nothing more than "OK ... so they respond to SIP OPTIONS packets... doesn't mea calls are going to happen though" |
| 13:57.43 | Samot | Yup. |
| 13:58.18 | TECFALL | Samot: ah, so they are just passing traffic. But calls will not register? |
| 13:59.02 | Samot | Is that the issue you are having? |
| 13:59.15 | TECFALL | Every single example is different as far as connecting two asterisk servers via SIP. |
| 13:59.29 | TECFALL | Samot: I hadn't even tried to call. I was just trying to break the connection. |
| 13:59.46 | TECFALL | Just testing security |
| 14:00.13 | Samot | Do you want them just PEER or do you want one to register to the other? |
| 14:00.18 | [TK]D-Fender | They are not ALLOWED to register. |
| 14:00.22 | [TK]D-Fender | You set a fixed host |
| 14:00.24 | TECFALL | I am just curious as far as if i need to use qualify, secret, fromuser, username ... |
| 14:00.54 | Samot | You have a fixed host, as TK pointed out. |
| 14:01.17 | Samot | So secret, username don't matter. |
| 14:01.56 | TECFALL | That makes sense. So if host was dynamic, is the only time you would use usernames and secrets correct? |
| 14:02.11 | TECFALL | why would you ever use dynamic then? |
| 14:02.19 | TECFALL | is that more for devices? |
| 14:02.23 | TECFALL | and not servers? |
| 14:02.36 | TECFALL | sorry, i'm very much still in the learning process of asterisk |
| 14:03.22 | [TK]D-Fender | You NEED to be dynamic to allow to register |
| 14:03.26 | [TK]D-Fender | that's the point |
| 14:03.33 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipregister |
| 14:03.33 | infobot | [~sipregister] SIP registration is to tell your provider what IP address & EXTEN to send INCOMING calls to. Some ITSPs let you use a fixed address or host rather than registering. Registration is NOT normally needed to PLACE calls, as those are typically auth'ed independently. Others accept unauth'ed calls once you are registered (saves on negotiation BW). |
| 14:03.35 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^ |
| 14:04.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Registering is to tell the other side where you are. If you set a fixed host then * will say "I HAVE an address for that user I'm not listening to your suggestion of where to send calls to" |
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| 16:14.37 | RichiePBX | Hey guys I am learning asterisk, however in CLI I am presented with this warning: [2016-07-07 01:42:02] WARNING[4298]: chan_sip.c:3761 __sip_xmit: sip_xmit of 0xa6140a8 (len 588) to <ip-removed>:5063 returned -1: Operation not permitted |
| 16:17.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Sounds like a firewall issue |
| 16:19.15 | RichiePBX | I am having firewall issues moreso NAT related. However this warning is posted every second in CLI, the IP mentioned is also my old one and I am trying to find out where else that IP is configured for it to present this warning. |
| 16:19.56 | RichiePBX | in config files* |
| 16:21.49 | [TK]D-Fender | iptables <--- |
| 16:21.51 | [TK]D-Fender | iptables --list |
| 16:26.17 | RichiePBX | Just had a thorough look, no mentioned of the IP given out in the warning. btw thanks for your replies. any other suggestions |
| 16:31.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Show us the dump |
| 16:33.07 | RichiePBX | Sorry, excuse my ignorance. Dump of the iptables list? |
| 16:34.17 | [TK]D-Fender | yes |
| 16:34.37 | RichiePBX | ok, one sec |
| 16:39.26 | RichiePBX | http://pastebin.com/cmUAR0eW |
| 16:42.56 | [TK]D-Fender | 81 |
| 16:43.11 | [TK]D-Fender | you've got very limited outbound ranges |
| 16:43.16 | [TK]D-Fender | and a default drop policy |
| 16:43.34 | [TK]D-Fender | You don't need to filter a specific IP... when you only PERMIT certain ranges |
| 16:46.21 | RichiePBX | I am settings rules via CSF. Asterisk cloud based, extensions are remote behind NAT. So instead of opening up too many ports I thought whitelisting the remote WAN IP would bypass all the restrictions of the limited outbound range. |
| 16:46.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Your thoughts were not correct |
| 16:46.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Fix your firewall |
| 16:47.32 | RichiePBX | Ok so base it on port ranges instead of filtering IP? |
| 16:48.54 | [TK]D-Fender | SUBNET ranges |
| 16:49.40 | [TK]D-Fender | And hosts as well |
| 16:49.52 | [TK]D-Fender | 81- 87 |
| 16:50.20 | RichiePBX | Alright. Thank you for your assistance and pointing me to the right direction..really appreciate it mate! |
| 16:52.07 | RichiePBX | Have a great day..cya |
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| 17:18.42 | MajesticFudgie | Is it possible to daisy chain asterisk instances together to pass calls between them? |
| 17:22.37 | [TK]D-Fender | * can call out using any tech it supports... which the others can probably speak as well |
| 17:22.47 | [TK]D-Fender | the term "daisy chain" isn't really apprpriate |
| 17:22.54 | [TK]D-Fender | As connection isn't implicit |
| 17:25.11 | MajesticFudgie | Ah, so it is possible? |
| 17:25.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Yes, clearly you can use SIP to call from one to the other |
| 17:25.35 | [TK]D-Fender | or any other tech that they speak |
| 17:25.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Otherwise would ou think that 1 company using * couldn't call another who also use it? |
| 17:26.01 | [TK]D-Fender | How you get there is up to you |
| 17:27.44 | MajesticFudgie | yeah |
| 17:28.06 | MajesticFudgie | I assume I'd set it up similar to how I'd use sipgate? |
| 17:28.24 | [TK]D-Fender | SIP is SIP |
| 17:28.40 | [TK]D-Fender | make it match and it'll do itts thing |
| 17:28.44 | MajesticFudgie | ah |
| 17:28.44 | WIMPy | LOL |
| 17:28.51 | WIMPy | You really made my day there :-) |
| 17:29.04 | MajesticFudgie | Who? |
| 17:29.29 | WIMPy | The mighty Fender |
| 17:30.06 | MajesticFudgie | ah |
| 17:30.07 | MajesticFudgie | lol |
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| 17:36.22 | [TK]D-Fender | WIMPy, Which convo did I earn it for this time? |
| 17:36.51 | WIMPy | <[TK]D-Fender> SIP is SIP |
| 17:36.58 | WIMPy | That one. |
| 17:39.21 | [TK]D-Fender | \o/ |
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| 17:53.07 | ghost75 | anyelse using chan_mobile? |
| 17:53.14 | ghost75 | +one |
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| 19:13.43 | hojuruku | does anyone here use siproxd? it's what i want the smallest thing that can re-route sip calls between users behind sipproxy on embedded OS (openwrt) but it adds 2 VIA headers to outgoing sip traffic therefore breaking connectivity with most VSP's like callcentric ippi.fr etc. Has anyone got around this? |
| 19:13.50 | hojuruku | the other solution i was going to try was some smarts with internal dns and rtpproxy :P that will get the job done. but siproxd is more cool. the problem is all the ddns providers make you pay for wildcard on your ddns :P |
| 19:13.57 | hojuruku | why ask here? #siproxd has only the developer in there and he's been asleep a week :P |
| 19:14.57 | [TK]D-Fender | And we still aren't 2nd level support for sipproxd |
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| 19:20.15 | Samot | And generally any proxy you pass it through will add a route that you will see ala "VIA" |
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| 19:54.17 | hojuruku | [TK]D-Fender: haha well not many people use it. Samot i know that's RFC. I need sipproxy to break RFC's to work in the real world with broken telcos. i think someone made a plugin for it to do it. |
| 19:55.40 | hojuruku | ok then. how small can you make asterisk 11 or 13 to put on an openwrt, what's it's code size, absolute minimum sip forwarding and registering only |
| 19:57.18 | [TK]D-Fender | https://www.google.ca/#q=asterisk+11+openwrt |
| 20:10.57 | hojuruku | [TK]D-Fender: I'm making my own custom build, in fact i'm making a package for openwrt right now - i'll be doing the push request soon. just made a new openwrt procd (think systemd) init script for mini_snmpd which is no longer available packaged with openwrt. |
| 20:11.07 | hojuruku | pull request i mean |
| 20:12.36 | hojuruku | [TK]D-Fender: seeing you are so rude about it, I use freeswitch :P I only came here because your userbase is allegedly larger. Still paying money for skype trunks? freeswitch does it for $0, wow you get 8 outgoing unlimted international calling trunks for $20 dollars a month with freeswitch. There goes your indian callcentre busienss asterisk :P |
| 20:14.44 | hojuruku | did i look like a lame end user when I talked about using dns and rtpproxy to allow in-dialing on a home router without going through to the internet or having a full software pabx? for god sake I used gentoo since 2004 - before they made an installer to keep the lamers away. all you got was the stage1 tarball then :P |
| 20:16.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Oh... someone wants my opinion. |
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| 20:16.38 | [TK]D-Fender | yay |
| 20:16.41 | [TK]D-Fender | FUN |
| 20:16.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ok then.... |
| 20:17.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Disclaimer: Expletives are for "flavour" and not intended as direct in any denigrating manner to any trypically targeted groups. |
| 20:20.54 | [TK]D-Fender | OpenWRT is for 2-bit faggot kiddies trying to recycle cheap consumer trash to feel cool. Skype is the bastard child of the telephony world used by said aformentioned kiddies who want to look "cool". The combination of which is a laughable offense |
| 20:22.04 | [TK]D-Fender | And those coming in here asking for help on sipproxd, and then spitting on * saying they use FreeSWITCH : GTFO |
| 20:22.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Lamer : they guy who spits on a product and then comes to their channel to ask for help on ANOTHER one. |
| 20:23.00 | [TK]D-Fender | </opinion> |
| 20:28.27 | [TK]D-Fender | ... and it's checkout time. BBIAB |
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| 20:40.11 | ghost75 | at least openwrt is cooler than crappy stock os from vendor |
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| 20:41.55 | ||cw | ghost75: to be fair, you won't need openwrt unless you're "trying to recycle cheap consumer trash" |
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| 20:42.21 | ||cw | I don't agree on the "to feel cool" part of that thought, one does it be make useless stuff useful again |
| 20:42.41 | ghost75 | is cool to buy expensive stuff which doesnt offer more options? |
| 20:42.52 | ||cw | there's also some pretty need embedded projects based on openwrt |
| 20:43.19 | ||cw | need/neat/ |
| 20:44.27 | ||cw | either way I don't see the point. let the router be a router. if you want a tiny pbx get a Pi. |
| 20:45.02 | ghost75 | it already starts that on most routers not even dhcp can be set propery |
| 20:45.04 | WIMPy | What's the difference? Other than the Pi has less hardware? |
| 20:45.06 | ghost75 | +l |
| 20:46.11 | ghost75 | ever used lancom router? i prefer openwrt 10 times |
| 20:47.29 | drmessano | You can buy Mikrotik for the same price or less than crappy Consumer jumk and it's 100x better |
| 20:48.32 | drmessano | Putting alternate firmware on consumer junk is polishing a turd. You fix the software issues and add some features, but it's still unreliable crap |
| 20:50.48 | ghost75 | expensive not always reliable |
| 20:51.00 | drmessano | Maybe you missed the first part |
| 20:51.09 | drmessano | 16:47:29 <drmessano> You can buy Mikrotik for the same price or less than crappy Consumer jumk and it's 100x better |
| 20:51.27 | ghost75 | dont know this |
| 20:51.47 | ghost75 | what makes you think is better? |
| 20:51.57 | drmessano | Think? |
| 20:52.03 | drmessano | No, "Know" |
| 20:52.10 | drmessano | It's called "Experience" |
| 20:52.13 | ghost75 | proof? |
| 20:52.29 | drmessano | Again, "Experience" |
| 20:52.42 | drmessano | But if you want proof, specs are readily available that show actual performance |
| 20:52.53 | drmessano | But technical specs are not "proof" per se |
| 20:52.54 | ghost75 | not having bad experience with opernwrt sooo.... |
| 20:52.59 | drmessano | They are a comparison |
| 20:53.11 | drmessano | You have one variable |
| 20:53.28 | drmessano | Myself and others have many variables to work from |
| 20:54.34 | drmessano | But still in all, as someone said earlier.. |
| 20:54.36 | drmessano | 16:41:55 <||cw> ghost75: to be fair, you won't need openwrt unless you're "trying to recycle cheap consumer trash" |
| 20:54.55 | WIMPy | likes Microtic, but there have been some rather broken RouterOS versions as well. |
| 20:55.08 | drmessano | WIMPy: Not unlike anything else |
| 20:55.23 | WIMPy | Exactely. |
| 20:55.25 | ghost75 | this discussion doesnt lead to anything |
| 20:56.54 | drmessano | Not if you want someone to tell you how great junk consumer routers are, and how openwrt fixes all their problems |
| 20:57.06 | drmessano | It doesnt lead to that at all |
| 20:57.18 | ghost75 | always depends where you want to use the stuff |
| 20:57.29 | drmessano | Not really, no |
| 20:57.51 | drmessano | Actual usage and quality are exclusive |
| 20:57.55 | WIMPy | drmessano: Are you using an iPhone? |
| 20:58.04 | drmessano | Right now? |
| 20:58.24 | ghost75 | sip is sip and router is router haha |
| 20:58.26 | WIMPy | Generelly |
| 20:58.36 | drmessano | My mobile phone is an iPhone |
| 20:58.45 | drmessano | If thats what youre asking |
| 20:59.08 | drmessano | ghost75: Not really, no |
| 20:59.40 | ghost75 | u dont get the point |
| 20:59.55 | drmessano | Youre not making any sort of worth that I would consider valid |
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| 21:01.28 | drmessano | If you continue to profess the greatness of OpenWRT and the requisite consumer junk routers, expect a lack of agreement. However, if you would like to simply state "I like OpenWRT" then ok |
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| 21:01.51 | drmessano | I can agree that you like OpenWRT |
| 21:02.24 | ghost75 | at least is better than stock soho software |
| 21:02.31 | WIMPy | I don't understand how you're able to use Asterisk with that attitude. |
| 21:02.47 | drmessano | How so? |
| 21:03.16 | WIMPy | There are professional dedicated and reliable PBXes out there. |
| 21:03.26 | drmessano | So? |
| 21:03.37 | ghost75 | asterisk not far from openwrt really |
| 21:03.42 | drmessano | lol |
| 21:03.48 | WIMPy | Why use experimental free stuff? |
| 21:04.17 | drmessano | WIMPy: You are greatly misunderstanding my issue with the scenario |
| 21:05.07 | drmessano | WIMPy: I don't install Asterisk on a $100 cheap chinese PC from Alibaba |
| 21:05.45 | ghost75 | how this will fix software bugs? |
| 21:05.50 | drmessano | OpenWRT and others are generally geared towards repurposing crap consumer junk routers |
| 21:05.59 | WIMPy | How often does hardware fail compared to software? |
| 21:06.45 | WIMPy | The only thing that makes them junk is usually the formware. The hardware is usually capable of doing a lot more. |
| 21:07.13 | drmessano | If you put OpenWRT on a Belkin router from Walmart, it's still a cheap Belkin router that probably looks horrible on a spectrum analyzer on the wifi side, and the throughput is terrible |
| 21:07.48 | drmessano | I don't agree that the hardware is of anything less than junk standard |
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| 21:08.10 | drmessano | anything more* ... I ruined my double negative |
| 21:08.14 | WIMPy | Maybe, but suddenly you will have a managable switch. |
| 21:09.12 | drmessano | Ok? |
| 21:10.38 | drmessano | I have never seen alternate firmware magically fix a poorly designed or produced device |
| 21:10.56 | ghost75 | what sort of gui this mikrotik devices have? |
| 21:10.59 | drmessano | Maybe I didnt install the build that remanufactures it |
| 21:11.09 | WIMPy | Most of the el cheapo reouters contain VLAN capable switches. So that's something on it's own that makes using soem alternative firmware interesting. And there's often more. |
| 21:12.18 | WIMPy | And many routers have telephony hardware. On some you can use them. So they look like a very sensible choice for installing Asterisk (to get back on topic). |
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| 21:16.56 | ghost75 | all mikrotik support dual wan? |
| 21:17.31 | drmessano | Mikrotik has not concept of "Dual WAN".. if you want to use multiple internet connections you just connect them and configure the ports as such |
| 21:17.33 | WIMPy | As many as you want. |
| 21:19.06 | drmessano | WIMPy: and as far as the "are you an iPhone?" question, I also own an iPad, and I exclusively use desktop Linux and have for years. But I buy a decent laptop and decent desktop machine to run said Linux |
| 21:19.48 | drmessano | I don't buy a $100 cheapbook and expect it to last so I can proclaim ZOMG I Linuxed it |
| 21:20.03 | drmessano | +on |
| 21:20.10 | ghost75 | there is webui? |
| 21:20.37 | drmessano | ghost75: There are lots of interfaces to Mikrotiks |
| 21:20.58 | drmessano | SSH, WinBox, WebIf |
| 21:21.38 | WIMPy | hasn't seen the web stuff, yet. |
| 21:21.38 | ghost75 | intuitive to use or wth options like lancom? |
| 21:22.34 | drmessano | I would say its intuitive |
| 21:22.55 | drmessano | But it requires some knowledge.. it's not for a consumer level end-user |
| 21:23.02 | WIMPy | wouldn't |
| 21:23.40 | WIMPy | But if you know what you're doing (and when you use devices like these, you should), you can manage them without reading the manual with little experimentation. |
| 21:25.43 | drmessano | Everything is pretty well grouped and easy to find. Configuring it takes some knowledge of what you are doing |
| 21:25.45 | ghost75 | some vendors make it unnecessary compliated |
| 21:25.54 | drmessano | I wouldnt give this to a non-techie and expect them to get anywhere |
| 21:27.35 | drmessano | But seriously, you can get something like a HAP AC Lite for $50 and it will blow away any consumer box going for twice that much. You can scale up as much as you need to with it |
| 21:29.28 | ghost75 | unfortunately almost everyone here is using allinone boxes with telephony and dsl modem |
| 21:30.06 | drmessano | so? |
| 21:30.38 | drmessano | They have this thing called "Passthrough", though it goes by many other names |
| 21:32.00 | ghost75 | is the trend, one box for everything but without much possibilites |
| 21:32.26 | drmessano | Yep ok they have those everywhere |
| 21:32.41 | drmessano | and you put a router behind it and configure the AIO to be just a modem |
| 21:33.07 | WIMPy | And that's exactely the kind of hardware whe you want a better firmware. |
| 21:33.20 | ghost75 | and then need something to connect old pbx with isdn |
| 21:33.54 | drmessano | I feel like I am being trolled right now by the Vacuum Tube brigade |
| 21:34.19 | ghost75 | its a rick rolled |
| 21:34.25 | drmessano | Why use Asterisk even? |
| 21:34.30 | drmessano | 3CX runs on Windows |
| 21:34.42 | drmessano | Windows is guten |
| 21:35.02 | ghost75 | who answer this |
| 21:37.46 | drmessano | I guess if I am going to spend $50 to $100 on a router, I want something that works... and the idea of buying a cheap consumer POS only to put alternate firmware on it, to hopefully get a slightly better POS, seems silly to me. But if that works for you, then more power to you |
| 21:38.31 | WIMPy | The point it you get the cheap stuff anyway, if you wan it or not. |
| 21:38.36 | WIMPy | is |
| 21:38.45 | ||cw | yeah I would do that. but I would do it to a router that I already had |
| 21:39.12 | WIMPy | And there's lots of unued things. Why bin them if they are still usefull? |
| 21:39.26 | drmessano | Why buy them in the first place? |
| 21:39.41 | WIMPy | Sure. I (usually) wouldn't buy somethig to try to make it usefull. |
| 21:39.44 | ||cw | because you just need a cheap router at the time? |
| 21:39.56 | ghost75 | often provider telling we cant help with issues because u dont use our router, so you stuck with their cheap devices |
| 21:40.09 | WIMPy | That's the point: You don't buy them. You get them from your provider or from the skip. |
| 21:41.16 | WIMPy | And every time you change provider or move or just change plan you get another el cheapo device. |
| 21:41.29 | ghost75 | forever cheapo |
| 21:41.36 | drmessano | Thats where I get my PBX boxes from too.. Curb surfing before the trash truck comes |
| 21:41.54 | Samot | I just have a modem from my provider. |
| 21:41.58 | Samot | I turned down their router. |
| 21:42.04 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 21:42.09 | drmessano | I bought my own |
| 21:42.17 | Samot | Because I like to have control over my router. |
| 21:42.20 | drmessano | Because $7-$10 a month rental is expensive |
| 21:42.34 | drmessano | Im sure they wouldnt like me putting new firmware on it either |
| 21:43.12 | Samot | Well it's why they lock people out most the time. |
| 21:43.23 | drmessano | I know i'm an IPhone idiot an all, but I prefer to choose my modem and router |
| 21:43.32 | drmessano | Rather than take whats provided and pay rental |
| 21:43.49 | ghost75 | personally i only use such box because it consumes less energy |
| 21:43.56 | drmessano | O.o |
| 21:44.02 | WIMPy | Ih yeah. Moem rental seems to be the new thing. |
| 21:44.12 | drmessano | New? |
| 21:44.14 | Samot | Modem rental is not a new thing. |
| 21:44.23 | drmessano | Like 15 years maybe |
| 21:44.43 | WIMPy | Well, it seems to become fashinable now. |
| 21:44.58 | Samot | It's always been in fashion. |
| 21:45.02 | drmessano | I was buying ADSL modems in the early 2000s because I didnt want to pay to rent |
| 21:45.09 | Samot | Yup. |
| 21:45.23 | WIMPy | Not here. Rarely any offers fo rmodem rental so far. |
| 21:45.24 | ghost75 | rent is most stupied thing ever |
| 21:45.29 | drmessano | I haven't rented a modem since 2002 I think |
| 21:45.59 | Samot | Here's the funny thing about modem rentals... |
| 21:46.12 | Samot | At the end of it all, they don't really care if you send it back. |
| 21:46.18 | drmessano | Nope |
| 21:46.37 | Samot | I canceled my ATT service last year and I was like "Where do I ship this?" |
| 21:46.43 | ghost75 | because they paid like 5x sum of what is worth |
| 21:46.48 | Samot | And they said "Throw it in the bin, someone will use it." |
| 21:46.49 | drmessano | Modem costs them nothing.. they just like to collect the money |
| 21:46.57 | ||cw | att doens't care. charter does |
| 21:47.10 | ||cw | but charter doens't charge a rental anymore either |
| 21:47.11 | WIMPy | Oh, that's usually the business plan here. A free modem for the duration of your contract. And if you don't send it back you get a bill for at least 10 times as much as it is worth. |
| 21:47.13 | ghost75 | there is also telekom is US ? |
| 21:47.21 | ||cw | you pay the same if you buy your own modem or not |
| 21:47.36 | Samot | Charter doesn't care. |
| 21:47.40 | Samot | You know who cares? |
| 21:47.52 | Samot | The contractors that collect the equipment for them. |
| 21:48.02 | ||cw | ohkay |
| 21:48.07 | Samot | Because they get a bonus on returned equipment. |
| 21:48.19 | WIMPy | But honstly I don't know why they even pay for the postage to get their old hardware back. It's surely less worth than the postage. |
| 21:48.21 | Samot | They just send them a list. |
| 21:48.24 | ||cw | which means charter cares enough to offer a bonus |
| 21:48.37 | Samot | I didn't say a bonus. |
| 21:48.41 | Samot | I said the contractors. |
| 21:48.45 | WIMPy | If I were them I'd hope the cusomers didn't sent it back so I wouldn't have to pay to get rid of the stuff. |
| 21:48.48 | Samot | Who are not direct employees of Charter. |
| 21:49.01 | Samot | And get paid based on the returns. |
| 21:49.11 | Samot | They don't return equipment, oh well. |
| 21:49.18 | drmessano | Oh and, if you RENT, and there's a technology upgrade, you can't upgrade unless THEY decide you have a valid reason. Like if you had a DOCSIS 2.0 cable modem. Until THEY decided your Surfboard 5101 was obsolete, fsck you.. Your modem is fine |
| 21:49.35 | drmessano | Damn all that |
| 21:49.48 | drmessano | I wanted a 3.0, I found one cheap on Amazon |
| 21:49.49 | ||cw | there's Surfboard 5101s that haven't fried themselves yet? |
| 21:49.56 | drmessano | Absolutely |
| 21:50.20 | drmessano | They are good for 30 megs, right? |
| 21:50.27 | drmessano | So they're still a standard |
| 21:50.37 | freebs | settle down |
| 21:51.23 | drmessano | freebs: Since you're a PFSense user, I guess I should explain |
| 21:51.39 | drmessano | 30 megs means 30 megabits, which is what you would get if you didn't have PF |
| 21:51.46 | drmessano | Just FYI |
| 21:52.10 | file | drmessano, you're funny |
| 21:52.45 | drmessano | file: It's been a while since I got to troll freebs and his pfsense box |
| 21:52.47 | ||cw | pretty sure I've clocked pf at >1Gbps in vms... |
| 21:52.58 | freebs | :P |
| 21:53.04 | drmessano | He misses me |
| 21:53.05 | ||cw | 10G vm nics FTW |
| 21:53.39 | freebs | pfsense makes the world go round... |
| 21:54.16 | drmessano | freebs: Right after you disable SIP ALG |
| 21:54.16 | WIMPy | Shouldn't things better go square in the digital age? |
| 21:54.46 | freebs | none in pfsense |
| 21:56.20 | drmessano | I went to a Linuxfest not too long ago, and this poor guy just took a BEATING during one of the talks which was basically supposed to be how FreeBSD is stealing Linux's lunch money |
| 21:56.59 | drmessano | Poor guy could have made a case, but none of his points were valid |
| 21:58.10 | Samot | Oooh... |
| 21:58.19 | Samot | I just setup Polycom Desktop Connector. |
| 22:01.39 | Samot | Not bad |
| 22:02.24 | Samot | Not sure I would personally use it. |
| 22:08.51 | hojuruku | [TK]D-Fender I love you already mate! I got banned from #lede-dev for not supporting gay marriage. I hope that openwrt fork dies and gets gobbled up like libav will soon be by FFMPEG! |
| 22:09.40 | hojuruku | funny bugger you'r cool. I'm a conserative anti-gay-pedophilia activist and i like your use of the word faggot. I am http://twitter.com/VGB_OPSEC - refugee of the west gay pedos like snowden and assange http://bit.ly/aurefugee2 for the UNHCR paperwork in HK before snowden went there b4 russia. |
| 22:10.23 | drmessano | O.o |
| 22:11.37 | newtonr | wut |
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| 22:12.34 | [TK]D-Fender | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q |
| 22:32.40 | Samot | Wth |
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| 22:57.11 | drmessano | Samot: Truth is, I don't support happy marriage either |
| 22:57.19 | drmessano | I think Marriage should be miserable |
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| 23:13.56 | Samot | hahah |
| 23:14.03 | Samot | That's just experience speaking. |
| 23:16.55 | drmessano | Never go full marriage |
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| 23:23.28 | absentbird | I am trying to troubleshoot some analog lines through a t1 card on an asterisk server. Is there a simple way to send a ring to a channel to see where it goes? |
| 23:38.24 | drmessano | You can't troubleshoot analog lines with a digital card |
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| 23:46.22 | b11d | hey all |
| 23:48.14 | b11d | I've got a phone system thats doing about 500-600 calls a day. We're looking at using asterisk as a backup to our current system, and am wondering if its at all possible to use it to queue calls, and hand those calls off to cell phones back out the same PRI? |
| 23:48.52 | b11d | like, the only way I can seem to envision it is that I'd have a call out to a cell phone thats attached to a conference and have members of the queue swap in and out of that conference somehow |
| 23:49.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Calls go wherever you tell them to go |
| 23:49.30 | b11d | the reason it'd be going to cell phones is that in the case of needing this particular box, the local network would be down and we still need a way to be able to answer/handle/dispatch all those calls coming in |
| 23:49.53 | b11d | right, but I know I cant possibly sustain that call volume back out to phones on a single PRI.. i'd run out of channels too fast |
| 23:50.27 | b11d | looking for an elegant way to have people use a few cell phones to receive that level of call volume. |
| 23:50.38 | [TK]D-Fender | If you want to come in via PRI and then right back out then you'd have to enable 2BCT |
| 23:50.40 | [TK]D-Fender | ~2bct |
| 23:50.40 | infobot | [~2BCT] 2BCT (2 B-Channel Transfer) allows a call coming in over DAHDi and back out again to the same telco to be handed off freeing the channels from your circuit. To enable this (if your carrier supports it) add "transfer=yes" to your channel configurations. |
| 23:50.42 | [TK]D-Fender | ^ |
| 23:50.47 | [TK]D-Fender | And have your telco support it |
| 23:50.50 | b11d | thats it?!@!?@?! |
| 23:50.58 | b11d | lololol.. so great |
| 23:51.09 | b11d | I'll talk to the vendor and see if its an option. |
| 23:51.20 | [TK]D-Fender | BTW ... you WILL be billed as required as though the channels were still going through you, but at least they'll be free |
| 23:51.36 | b11d | indeed, understood. |
| 23:52.06 | [TK]D-Fender | You also can't be doing ANYTHING that would for * to stay in the path |
| 23:52.12 | [TK]D-Fender | no recording, DTMF-based features, etc |
| 23:53.11 | b11d | of coruse, it'd be out of the picture at that point. |
| 23:54.00 | b11d | any pointers on how to look at setting up the queues and allow these cell phoens to be able to manage them? |
| 23:55.27 | b11d | ive done it with voip phones on the same network as the pbx, but never with cells that exist outside of the system... maybe its virtually the same. |
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