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02:42.54znfraspberrypifan, key auth
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05:35.34raspberrypifanis the digium certification worth it
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08:10.59pawieckiHello! Is it possible, that dialing multiple sip peers at once (SIP/100&SIP/101&SIP102...), can cause asterisk to malfunction?
08:12.57pawieckiI did that for 5 peers, and phones went laggy and unreachable. When I changed it, it looks like the problem went away. Why would it make problems?
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08:13.55pawieckiAll the phones started to dropping calls and lag, not only the 5 I dialed.
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09:36.16Ast001Hello do you know some good softphone on iax2 protocol ?
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11:25.42fileThursday is.
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12:10.29nixnothinggreetings
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12:15.38nixnothinghow does asterisk compare to freeswith?
12:19.26[TK]D-Fendersimilar but different approaches.
12:19.31[TK]D-FenderWhat do you actually need?
12:21.06nixnothingjust trying to get a feel for the differences. I'm relatively new to voip/sip projects but but just started a job that requires me to use them
12:21.29nixnothingI guess what I was wondering was.
12:22.20nixnothingwe are using astersk, but I hear freeswitch might be better for what we are doing longterm b/c of database stuff
12:23.05nixnothingwas wonding if astersk had any distint advantages that would make a difference
12:23.27Rasputin3711Install freeswithc in production and compare, what is the problem? ))
12:24.56nixnothingno problem yet, I just dont have a strong feel for the advantages of each and havent had time to read through the differences yet in documentation
12:27.03nixnothingI'm told we will prob switch to freeswitch in the future from astersk b/c the databases are restricting us and we are hiting software limitations
12:27.50nixnothingwe do cloud hosting w/ astersk
12:30.01nixnothingwe plan to impliment some other changes as well in the future so im am just trying to get an idea of scope
12:39.35acidfu_nixnothing what I like about asterisk is also the community, the number of active developers, the quantity of documentation, books, blogs, example etc
12:41.22nixnothingyeah, I have to agree I was impressed with the good documentation so far
12:42.45nixnothingI assumed the community was larger/more involved too if any just because astersk seems to be more popular
12:43.02nixnothing*if just
12:43.09filedocument all the things!
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13:38.16TandyUKgradwell having major issues atm fyi
13:38.25TandyUKas if anyone affected doesnt already know :P
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14:16.48SamotWhat issue is Gradwell having?
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14:24.11TandyUKwel ltheir IAX seems to have broken big time
14:24.30TandyUKtheyre ackowledging outbound iax issues, btu none of our incoming iax trunks from them are recieving calls either
14:24.46TandyUKwe just pointed the clients 0x45 numbers at a provider other than gradwell
14:24.57TandyUKand probably just saved our client £30/mo in the process
14:25.33TandyUKtheir tech support sent me a trace saying 'everything looks fine our end'
14:25.38TandyUKbut the log itself shows errors lol
14:25.49TandyUKso they clearly havent read/understood what the trace is telling them
14:26.19TandyUKnot to mention its a trace of _everything_ that asterisk node was doign at the time
14:26.27TandyUKso i now have a lot of info on soem other gradwell clients lol
14:27.03TandyUKim not even their client, so theyve just sent a 2mb sip debug log to some random third party (ie me)
14:30.51fileeep
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15:30.51jermyQuick query - when I run 'sip show channelstats', the Recv Pack/Lost counters appear to reset to zero periodically (about 30s). Is this normal?
15:34.40raspberrypifanare there any new asterisk books being planned the latest one is several years old now
15:38.52fileI do not believe so, writing such a thing takes a lot of time
15:40.02nixnothingalso if not alot fundamentally changes, then its just  waste of paper with like 5 pages off new content out of a 1000 page book
15:40.56nixnothinglike old programming books are even more true in this way.
15:41.16nixnothingbe easier to just look as recent changelogs with updates or version differences
15:42.11raspberrypifanbut hasnt a lot of big stuff changed since 2013
15:42.37[TK]D-FenderA few things new like PJSIP, but they're documented on the WIKI
15:42.59[TK]D-FenderIf you feel the need to kill a tree then go and print them out
15:43.20nixnothingyeah asterisk seems old enough where big changes dont happen on a global level anymore
15:44.04nixnothingthats just new vs old software in general
15:45.03nixnothingits new young software with systemwide changes, updates, or redesigns that need new accross the board documentation on a regular basis (bejcause they are consolidated into 1 place)
15:45.27nixnothinglike major version changes or revisions
15:46.37fileuser facing stuff has really only been chan_pjsip, unless you count CDRs and AMI under that umbrella
15:47.12[TK]D-Fenderand ARI
15:47.19fileARI is for developers really
15:47.42nixnothingyeah
15:49.01nixnothingARI is an asynchronous API that allows developers to build communications applications by exposing the raw primitive objects in Asterisk - channels, bridges, endpoints, media, etc. - through an intuitive REST interface. The state of the objects being controlled by the user are conveyed via JSON events over a WebSocket.
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15:53.10heradonhello guys
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15:53.30MonpokeHello, I'm trying to implement a queue system and I would like to reload these queues into cli. But it seems "queue..." commands are not found... However the module "app_queue.so" is correctly loaded... Any idea?
15:53.47Vamp898Hi there, small question. We use an features map for transfering calls. This works for inbound calls, but not for outbounds... we're stuck in where to look for this issue
15:56.38Vamp898I choosed ## for blindxfer, if i press x
15:56.58Vamp898## in an inbound call, i can reinvite. If i press ## in an outbound call, just nothing happens (the other person hears that i press the buttons)
15:57.15Vamp898not reinvite, sorry, transfer :D
15:57.49[TK]D-FenderYour call has to actually supportt those dial opttions
15:57.59[TK]D-FenderIf you don't havcev them then you can't
15:58.07[TK]D-FenderWhat kind of phones are you using for those calls?
15:58.31Vamp898We use the linphone app and an SIP provider for Trunking. The same provider is used for outbound and inbound calls
15:59.47Vamp898If i call someone intern, the ## works, but if i call someone external (which uses the SIP provider), the ## doesnt work anymore. But with the same provider and with inbound calls, the ## works...
16:01.59MonpokeProblem solved
16:02.00[TK]D-FenderLinphone should support real transfers and not depend on DTMF through *....
16:02.23[TK]D-FenderWhen calling out you need to set your TRUNK DIAL options to allow transfers
16:02.27[TK]D-Fenderotherwise you won't be able to
16:03.49Vamp898ah goddamit im so stupid, i set the Trunk Dial options everywhere but due to using millions of macros i extensions i forgot to set it in the very last Dial() Call which calls the provider...
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16:04.32Vamp898oh wait no, actually they are set :D, sorry
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16:05.48Vamp898[TK]D-Fender: dammit, now. I used trg,trgT at one dial command.... days gotta too long. Thank you for your hint, cheers!
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16:06.03[TK]D-FenderYou're welcome
16:06.14[TK]D-Fenderbut you should still get a softphone that supports real transfers
16:06.43[TK]D-Fendereg: bria, Jitsi, etc
16:06.51[TK]D-FenderDTMF transfers = low-end crap
16:07.25Vamp898[TK]D-Fender: we have that, we want to provide an backup solution for some weird phones
16:07.43Vamp898[TK]D-Fender: there are other ways for linphone to transfer (nobody here uses ##), its just for other phones
16:08.09[TK]D-FenderShould be a few you could install that have real functionality...
16:08.15[TK]D-FenderBut anyway just a real suggestion
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16:33.06Synthase_Performed YUM update on an Asterisk 13 system using chan_sip yesterday. res_srtp had been compiled, but was unused, just for possible later use. This said, libsrtp updated yesterday and now keeps res_rtp_asterisk.so from loading, complaining of a missing shared object. I've recompiled Asterisk with the ./configure --without-srtp flag, removed libsrtp and the
16:33.06Synthase_devel library, etc, no dice. Any ideas?
16:35.06WIMPyDid you ignore some warning about that on 'make install'?
16:37.19Synthase_I stopped getting errors about during compiling after removing the packages, yet the newly created RTP module still expects it.
16:37.33Synthase_Needless to say, without an RTP engine, calls are not happening.
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16:39.59Synthase_While I know relinking with ld is an option with missing objects, that shouldn't be relevant when package is removed, SRTP not selected in menuselect, and using the without string during configure to force it.
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16:45.37jrunwhere did AST_CDR_FLAG_LOCKED go?
16:47.28jrunis AST_CDR_LOCK_APP the same?
16:47.57jrundoesn't look like it though
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18:20.49lvlinuxIs there any benefit/difference to using the DTMF feature code to park a call vs having a phone do a SIP refer to transfer the call to 700??
18:21.06lvlinux(I'm using the default 700 for the parking lot)
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20:30.55*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.9.1 (2016/05/13), 11.22.0 (2016/03/29); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.5.0 (2016/03/28) -=- Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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21:42.03tuxd00dAre there any other ways to hang up a stuck channel (in this case “Autodestruct on dialog”), other than “channel request hangup” or restarting Asterisk?  â€œchannel request hangup SIP/…” appears to be ineffective in this case.
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