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| 01:06.05 | Corndog95 | Hello Everyone |
| 01:06.17 | Corndog95 | anyone looking to do some freelancing on a vicidial server? |
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| 07:15.52 | ruben23 | guys i have a working asterisk with minor configuration on it, can i recompile the asterisk without removing my intial configuration and nothing will be deleted somehow..Thanks |
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| 07:31.51 | ChannelZ | yes |
| 07:32.05 | ChannelZ | just don't do "make samples" and none of your config will be touched |
| 07:35.16 | davlefou | Hi, some one have use A(sound) in Dial? |
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| 07:37.22 | ChannelZ | Not me, but what is the actual question? |
| 07:38.52 | davlefou | I would like change the ring heard during the call. |
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| 07:58.53 | ChannelZ | you'll probably need to use m() to do music on hold with a MOH context specifically for this |
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| 08:02.20 | davlefou | Yes but it start with an anwers. |
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| 09:05.38 | snadge | this is going to sound super dumb.. because it is.. but can you sms a voip number? is this even remotely worth entertaining? |
| 09:05.47 | snadge | my instinctual answer is just no |
| 09:06.04 | snadge | we don't support it.. and likely never will.. but i just wondered if perhaps this was maybe a thing |
| 09:08.07 | ChannelZ | Well the answer is yes, if your ITSP supports it. Mine does. They do it via XMPP |
| 09:08.19 | ChannelZ | Although I think I just got a notice that it's changing to some sort of REST interface |
| 09:09.12 | snadge | in this case, we use asterisk 11.. but im not even sure of what the mechanism is |
| 09:09.36 | ChannelZ | Like I said it would just depend on the ITSP |
| 09:09.40 | snadge | we have a lot of random devices connecting to us via sip.. and presumably they would need to support this xmpp protocol, and asterisk would need to support it too |
| 09:10.09 | snadge | right.. then there's upstream.. we've just been bought out.. so theres only one of those now, so i guess its kinda up to them |
| 09:10.38 | ChannelZ | Asterisk can talk xmpp. What you do with it after that is your problem; like I dunno if any particular sip phones support displaying texts. There is a SIP message for doing it but I've never used it |
| 09:11.04 | ChannelZ | I remember trying to play with it on Zoiper (softphone) at one point.. or something. Memory foggy |
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| 09:23.41 | snadge | yeah.. its pretty safe to say the answer is no.. i mean.. if i could get it to work on zoiper, yealink, cisco, snom.. or even just a few of the above |
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| 09:23.53 | snadge | it might be worth looking into.. but it sounds like an enormous support burden, for very little gain |
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| 09:39.19 | jaflong | with a variable like this |
| 09:39.25 | jaflong | NODE=one:19,two:3,three:2,four:7 |
| 09:39.32 | jaflong | How would i get the value of three for example |
| 09:39.53 | jaflong | the resukt should be 2 |
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| 12:02.34 | Zogot | quick question, modules.conf autoload=yes will load every module right? |
| 12:04.08 | Zogot | yeh, quick test seems to show so, would it be possible to get a change to the wiki bot, to list the module that applications/functions are in? |
| 12:04.30 | Zogot | i was gonna write it in a comment on the wiki page, for a few that i found to not be clear |
| 12:04.52 | Zogot | but if thats relatively simple, to think about getting that added to the bot itself |
| 12:12.48 | jkroon | Zogot, I normally grep in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules for the right modules. Yes, it's binary files. It normally works quite well. |
| 12:14.29 | Zogot | jkroon: ah good tip :) |
| 12:14.56 | Zogot | thanks |
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| 12:26.42 | WIMPy | Yeah, that's definitely missing in the wiki. |
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| 12:39.11 | file | the source code for the bot is actually public, https://github.com/asterisk/publish-docs/, if anyone wants to try to add that |
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| 12:53.40 | Zogot | file: ah great, i thought it was, but a quick search for asterisk wiki bot didn't find it |
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| 13:04.36 | Zogot | hmm, it appears the generation from the XML docs isn't perfect either right now, https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+13+Application_Pickup is wrong in reference to the core-en_US.xml (atleast from 13.3.2 which is my current version) |
| 13:04.48 | Zogot | the syntax is missing the @[context] |
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| 13:05.04 | Zogot | display in console: Pickup([extension[@context][&extension2[@context2][&...]]]) |
| 13:08.35 | [TK]D-Fender | that looks right... |
| 13:09.02 | [TK]D-Fender | should get dropped in... |
| 13:09.53 | Zogot | [TK]D-Fender: should get dropped in? |
| 13:10.45 | [TK]D-Fender | onto the wiki |
| 13:11.12 | Zogot | oh, manually? |
| 13:12.01 | file | that's all automated, it's entirely possible it's not right as it's a shaky process at times |
| 13:12.18 | file | Confluence also likes to flip flop on certain pages |
| 13:12.25 | file | adding in extra tags every other day |
| 13:13.55 | Zogot | file: ah shitty lol, well just something i noticed anyway, was working on my library going through the applications, hence the bit about the modules they are in, and noticing the difference between wiki and console |
| 13:14.19 | file | if any changes do go up as a pull request and go in they'll automatically be used that night |
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| 14:10.56 | NetSecJedi | anyone have any recommendations for command line sip testing? |
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| 15:17.24 | davlefou | http://pastebin.com/kWqZg02e |
| 15:17.38 | davlefou | I have no ilbc translation. |
| 15:18.27 | davlefou | but i have that: codec_ilbc.so format_ilbc.so |
| 15:20.12 | [TK]D-Fender | I see no proof it's loaded |
| 15:20.20 | [TK]D-Fender | We also don't see you reloading it. |
| 15:21.03 | davlefou | i how i load it? |
| 15:21.12 | [TK]D-Fender | it's a module like every other |
| 15:21.22 | davlefou | ok |
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| 15:29.43 | davlefou | http://pastebin.com/DYCV0ZKU |
| 15:33.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Sure looks like you don't have a proper module there... |
| 15:33.42 | [TK]D-Fender | libilbc.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 15:33.52 | [TK]D-Fender | libilbc.so.1 <------------- |
| 15:34.02 | [TK]D-Fender | missing libraries |
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| 15:35.58 | davlefou | So what i have to do? |
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| 15:42.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Where's the library? |
| 15:42.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Go deal with your core OS libs |
| 15:43.10 | davlefou | http://pastebin.com/RFZGwfyK |
| 15:45.11 | [TK]D-Fender | perhap ldconfig, etc |
| 15:45.35 | [TK]D-Fender | check perms while you're at it |
| 15:49.36 | davlefou | i have no problem with 11.8.1 but with the new ones, 13, it is not good. |
| 15:50.29 | davlefou | It seems ilbc are différent with pjproject seems new |
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| 16:03.09 | linux4life | newtonr: registered for 2016 last night. receipt came back as last years conference receipt. registration confirmation was right, but receipt was old... just and fyi |
| 16:21.14 | lvlinux | Is spandsp needed for fax detection on SIP lines? |
| 16:22.07 | lvlinux | I don't mean actually receiving a fax, just detecting it so it can be sent to an ATA where the fax machine is hooked up. |
| 16:22.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Have you tried using the app without it? |
| 16:23.23 | lvlinux | no I'm about to compile for a box and wondered if I need to get the sources for spandsp before going ahead. |
| 16:24.57 | [TK]D-Fender | You should be doing this regardless |
| 16:26.33 | lvlinux | oh? how come? I figured if it wasn't needed then shouldn't add it on. |
| 16:27.26 | linux4life | that's always been my theory.... don't bloat something with useless code.... you can always recompile to add it later if your needs change. |
| 16:27.39 | [TK]D-Fender | If you're even thinking "fax" you shouldn't be making excuses to cut corners. |
| 16:27.54 | linux4life | true.... |
| 16:28.46 | linux4life | you may want just detection right now, but since fax is involved in your system, the chances they'll change their mind in the near feature is probably pretty good. and having it in place with they pull the trigger just makes you look that much better and better prepared. |
| 16:29.48 | lvlinux | So the detection does work without it? (I'm going to add it anyway now but I'd like to know :-) |
| 16:29.50 | linux4life | any of you 186 folks in here ever used Uber? |
| 16:30.10 | linux4life | really can't say if it does or not. I wouldn't expect it to. |
| 16:30.24 | lvlinux | Uber: I've opened the app. Does that count? |
| 16:30.29 | lvlinux | lol |
| 16:30.59 | linux4life | I'm looking to find out how or if you get some kind of receipt. looking for transportation options in Phoenix for Astricon 2016 |
| 16:31.15 | linux4life | I hear cab's are $60 one way from airport to hotel |
| 16:31.18 | lvlinux | Do you know [TK]D-Fender? (if fax detect does work without spandsp) |
| 16:31.47 | lvlinux | linux4life: google says that uber lets you view and send yourself receipts |
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| 16:33.36 | linux4life | awesome. thanks.... |
| 16:40.26 | davlefou | i have that problem with the iblc: http://pastebin.com/4BzcbCT1 |
| 16:43.52 | davlefou | Did i need to get ilbc from pkmedia-codec? |
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| 17:06.55 | lvlinux | now that I'm into researching fax, I see in the * compiler flags one can set G711_NEW_ALGORITHM to use "slower, but cleaner" ULAW/ALAW. Any downside of going with that (other than a negligible slowdown from what I've read so far)? |
| 17:08.15 | lvlinux | I read that with the old codecs, fax can break after something like 4 hops of transcodes. But 4 hops of transcodes would seem to me to point to bigger [design] problems... |
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| 17:27.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Transcodes to WHAT? |
| 17:28.13 | [TK]D-Fender | You need every ounch of quality from an original G.711 point of origin. |
| 17:28.29 | [TK]D-Fender | You twist to any lower codec and your fax = DOA |
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| 17:45.04 | lvlinux | [TK]D-Fender: Transcodes to and from uncompressed (compandored I believe is more accurate). Even though G.711 is in a way uncompressed, the bits are still being changed a bit for the compandoring and such. From what I read, the old g711 codec code isn't perfect at going back and forth between g711 to uncompressed and back to g711. |
| 17:45.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Not clear |
| 17:46.01 | [TK]D-Fender | circular and I'm not hearing an specific codec differences in there |
| 17:46.03 | lvlinux | yeah I meant the parentheses to go somewhere else lol |
| 17:46.41 | lvlinux | old g711 codec -> uncompressed -> g711 -> uncompressed a few times can kill fax from what I read. |
| 17:47.28 | lvlinux | even though each time you go back to g711 it should be identical to the time before, evidently it isn't. |
| 17:48.05 | [TK]D-Fender | still makes no sense |
| 17:48.17 | [TK]D-Fender | there is no "compressed" vs "not compressed" in just saying "G.711" |
| 17:48.39 | [TK]D-Fender | If you're literally RECOMPANDING by swithcing between ULAW and ALWA then that would be another thign |
| 17:48.50 | [TK]D-Fender | What are these conversion points? |
| 17:49.35 | lvlinux | I have no clue why you would have conversion points like that in practice. |
| 17:49.55 | lvlinux | if you want to get rid of the "uncompressed/compressed" wording, then: |
| 17:50.33 | lvlinux | g.711 -> slin -> g.711 doesn't give the exact same g.711 stream as the first one. |
| 17:50.47 | lvlinux | even though in theory it should. |
| 17:51.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Why would it be converting at all? |
| 17:51.54 | lvlinux | you mean why would you have a scenario like that in the first place? If so, I have no clue. |
| 17:52.40 | [TK]D-Fender | What is ttelling you this is even happening? |
| 17:54.01 | lvlinux | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2008-November/221608.html |
| 17:55.19 | [TK]D-Fender | I don't mean some crap post from almost a decade ago |
| 17:55.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Where is prrof from YOUR SERVER as to what's happening? |
| 17:56.49 | [TK]D-Fender | "In the original code, he said, after 4 or so hops, |
| 17:56.49 | [TK]D-Fender | fax transmissions would no longer work." <- so older than 1.6.(something) |
| 17:57.03 | [TK]D-Fender | You shouldn't be digging through partial conversations about ancient versions. |
| 17:57.03 | lvlinux | lol I don't need or want proof from my server. I don't even transcode any more than necessary, so it's really a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. |
| 17:57.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Well you've drudged up some serious FUD here so far, so let's stop now... |
| 17:57.26 | lvlinux | As to "ancient versions" this is 13.8 that has the option to use the NEW ALGORITHM |
| 17:59.00 | [TK]D-Fender | that posting referred to a patch being added that fixes any such problem from previous versions. |
| 17:59.04 | [TK]D-Fender | and that was very long ago |
| 17:59.16 | lvlinux | serious FUD? lol I think you are over-reacting. |
| 17:59.36 | lvlinux | If the patch has been applied, then why is it an option that isn't enabled by default in the current version??? |
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| 18:49.46 | lvlinux | Is there a recommended RTP payload type to use for rfc2833 DTMF?? I have seen 96, 101, and 127 all used on diff equipment. |
| 18:53.40 | lvlinux | and type 94 just now... |
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| 19:51.21 | thiagoc | is there some tutorial on how run asterisk without disable selinux? |
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| 19:53.03 | lvlinux | thiagoc: I don't think so, but if you get it working it'd be nice if you wrote one :-D |
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| 19:54.09 | lvlinux | What's the pjsip equivalent of "sip reload" ?? |
| 19:55.09 | lvlinux | (without killing calls preferably) |
| 19:55.19 | file | module reload res_pjsip.so |
| 19:56.01 | lvlinux | file: thanks. And will that kill current calls or no? |
| 19:56.06 | file | it won't kill calls |
| 19:56.14 | lvlinux | great. Thanks! |
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| 20:05.02 | vader- | So working with samot last night we figured out that one of the reasons T.38 isn't quite working right, is asterisk was never compiled with http://res_fax_spandsp.so/ ⦠I am trying to resolve this as much as possible remotely, do you guys have any instructions on how to recompile asterisk 11 on  an already built system? |
| 20:05.15 | vader- | it's currently running 11.3, so i guess it would also make sense to goto 11.22 (the latest) |
| 20:07.01 | [TK]D-Fender | You compile right over. |
| 20:07.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Now if you were running a PACKAGED system your packaging might blow things up later... |
| 20:07.35 | [TK]D-Fender | did you do it from hand yourself the first time? |
| 20:07.43 | vader- | ya i believe so |
| 20:07.50 | vader- | i can't remember if it was from a package or source |
| 20:07.56 | vader- | it was done years ago |
| 20:08.15 | lvlinux | u better check your installed packages first then |
| 20:08.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Then go and find a better answer than "I believe" |
| 20:08.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Upgrade that to a certainty |
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| 20:13.06 | vader- | it was installed via source |
| 20:16.56 | [TK]D-Fender | So compile right over |
| 20:17.48 | mub | I don't get why so many telephony guys don't update their servers |
| 20:18.08 | mub | Well, I'm worse, because I use beta whenever possible.. |
| 20:18.23 | vader- | i manage a ton of different systems |
| 20:18.25 | WIMPy | Maybe they don't want to break things? |
| 20:18.34 | mub | WIMPy: That's the fun part! |
| 20:18.35 | vader- | and if something is working just fine and isn't public facing |
| 20:18.49 | vader- | then no real need to stir the pot |
| 20:19.04 | WIMPy | If you don't hav other hobbies it might. for some time. |
| 20:19.08 | vader- | i have an asterisk box from 2005 thats never been updated |
| 20:19.13 | mub | I've got egg-beaters on 24/7 in my pot |
| 20:19.29 | vader- | runs just fine |
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| 20:19.38 | vader- | handles about 120 phones |
| 20:19.45 | vader- | goes and knocks on wood |
| 20:19.47 | WIMPy | also knows someone who is still running 1.2 in his office. |
| 20:20.05 | vader- | ya i believe it's 1.2 |
| 20:23.52 | mub | Asterisk 13 mostly, but I use 1.8 on our dialers. Never had a problem with yum-cron enabled |
| 20:23.58 | mub | knocks on wood |
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| 20:36.22 | lvlinux | anybody else have the console freeze when doing a "module reload res_pjsip.so" after enabling the pjsip logger?? |
| 20:36.44 | lvlinux | I can start up another console but it's still trying to reload the module. |
| 20:36.47 | mub | lvlinux: one moment |
| 20:36.51 | mub | I'll see if I can replicate |
| 20:37.12 | lvlinux | Using 13.8.1, just compiled today. |
| 20:39.31 | mub | same here! But mine worked fine when I reloaded pjsip :\ |
| 20:39.49 | lvlinux | hmmm |
| 20:39.59 | mub | well, I ran that on our freepbx box, so it's probably a vastly different setup than yours |
| 20:40.25 | lvlinux | hehe lol yup. I've got a super duper simple config for this guy right now. Don't even have extensions.conf yet. |
| 20:41.49 | mub | Something about fresh systems always excites me |
| 20:42.05 | lvlinux | hehe saying that made me think of something---I referenced a context in pjsip.conf which didn't exist in extensions.conf (which didn't exist) and that was evidently the problem. |
| 20:42.22 | mub | Huzzah! |
| 20:42.45 | lvlinux | created an extensions.conf with nothing but that context in it and it didn't do it. |
| 20:43.18 | lvlinux | thanks mub for helping him think :-) |
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| 23:37.56 | cemotyz09 | I'm trying to build 13.8.1 on fedora 23 and cannot get past this error when running "make". http://paste.fedoraproject.org/357552/14611090. copied last few lines to maybe help with whatever i may need. |
| 23:38.41 | cemotyz09 | also the prereqs script only shows what I believe are ubuntu or debian specific dependencies |
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