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01:38.51Samotlankanmon: if ypu want to uss POTS youre looking at needing a FXO card.
01:39.49SamotOr something like a SPA3102 or whatever the new model is called.
01:41.17lankanmonwow those are expensive! Are those the only way to get the pc to connect to POTS
01:41.20lankanmon?
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01:41.59WIMPyYou use a card or some VOIP gateway.
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01:42.49lankanmonare there any budget friendly gatways that will work with asterisk?
01:43.49WIMPyOne has just been named.
01:44.03lankanmonSPA3102?
01:44.25WIMPyyes
01:45.11lankanmonIs this it? https://www.amazon.ca/Cisco-Voip-Single-Gateway-spa3102-na/dp/B007I57DCS/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1457574262&sr=1-2&keywords=SPA3102
01:45.42lankanmonlooks like $122 is the lowest price
01:46.04WIMPyAny model with an FXO port.
01:47.46lankanmonI am not sure that I know the difference between that and normal VOIP modems... I have a  OBi202, would that work?
01:48.12SamotDoes it have an FXO port?
01:48.40WIMPyWhat is a VOIP modem? Doesn't make sense.
01:48.57lankanmonIm not sure what to call it
01:49.05lankanmonOBi202 VoIP Phone Adapter with Router
01:49.11lankanmonhttps://www.amazon.ca/OBi202-Phone-Adapter-Router-2-Phone/dp/B007D930YO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1457574436&sr=1-2&keywords=obihai
01:49.39babakHi , I installed latest dahdi on ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04 , I checked header file version=ok ,but every time I should run modprobe dahdi, "make config" on dahdi compile supposed to do this ,am I correct ?
01:51.16WIMPycannot parse that.
01:52.17Samotlankanmon: you need something woth an FXO port not just FXS.
01:52.37lankanmonoh there is a difference
01:52.45SamotFXO = in. FXS = out
01:53.20SamotFax machine, analog phone...all FXO devices
01:53.47SamotThe wall jack you connect them to, FXS
01:53.56SamotSoif
01:54.31SamotSo if you want to take your phone company POTS line and have tye PBX answer it, it needs to accept FXO connections.
01:54.32lankanmonSo I need one with both ports right?
01:54.58SamotWell now youre looking at two devices.
01:55.07SamotYou have two phones.
01:55.35SamotYou either need a single device with at least one FXO port and 2 FXS portsm
01:55.47lankanmonNo, Just one phone, one line in and possibly one voip connection
01:55.47SamotAnd thoe arent cheap.
01:56.31SamotSo a 3102, which is EOL
01:57.06SamotOr the 232D which is not EOL or any other brand
01:58.43lankanmonThis? https://www.amazon.ca/Cisco-SPA232D-G1-Multi-Line-DECT/dp/B00BBM7RJS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1457575085&sr=8-1&keywords=spa232d
01:59.03SamotYeah
01:59.34SamotThat will support up to 5 phones if you get the proper DECT base.
02:00.04lankanmonlets say I get this, how do I apply this with Asterisk
02:00.13WIMPyThat's built-in. isn't it?
02:00.20SamotYup
02:00.35lankanmonNo Idea... I did not know about asterisk until yesterday
02:00.48lankanmonI am trying to learn as much as possible
02:00.51WIMPyNot a bad idea.
02:01.06SamotYou need to read the manual on how to config the FXO port and bridge to the PBX
02:01.20WIMPyUgh. It's really only DECT ;-(
02:01.24lankanmonis the PBX running on a different system?
02:01.34SamotYes.
02:01.41SamotYou need a system for that
02:01.46lankanmonoh
02:01.54SamotThese are external devices.
02:02.08SamotYou need to build a linux box
02:02.15lankanmonyep
02:02.22SamotInstall Asterisk and any other things you need.
02:02.38lankanmonwould it work with a Rasp Pi 3?
02:02.54lankanmonor 2?
02:02.55SamotYes
02:03.03WIMPyHA. COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THAT.
02:03.08WIMPyoops
02:03.47lankanmonIts just that i really dont want to build a big system that I will run 24hrs/day for just phone service
02:04.32SamotIt's really never wise to run other things on a PBX but for 1 line, that shouldn't really be a problem.
02:05.01lankanmonyeah its purely for personal use
02:05.57lankanmonHow would I connect the adapter to the rasp?
02:06.18WIMPyEthernet
02:06.34lankanmonoh
02:06.43lankanmonI thaught usb or something
02:07.20WIMPyIt's called Vo*IP* for a reason :-)
02:07.28SamotYou wouldn't connect the adapter to the PBX
02:07.44SamotYou would connect it to the router on the LAN the PBX is on.
02:08.34lankanmonAnd asterisk will be able to find that?
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02:08.44SamotNo.
02:08.56SamotThe ATA will tell Asterisk that it wants to connect.
02:09.09SamotAnd there will be an extension/user on Asterisk with a username and password that you setup.
02:09.16SamotYou put that in the ATA
02:09.18WIMPyYou have to configure the device to find Asterisk.
02:09.27lankanmonoh
02:09.38Samot~book
02:09.39infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
02:09.43SamotThere you go.
02:10.11Samot~wiki
02:10.24Samothttp://wiki.asterisk.org
02:10.27lankanmonso: Line in -> SPA232D -> router -> Rasp Pi -> voip service ?
02:11.04SamotNo.
02:11.35lankanmonwhich part is wrong?
02:11.37SamotPOTS to SPA232D to Router to Pi
02:11.57SamotVOIP service to Pi via SIP trunk.
02:12.12SamotPi to router to SPA232D to phone
02:12.45SamotIt doesn't matter if the call originates from the POTS or the VOIP service.
02:12.58SamotWhen the call hits Asterisk, you tell it what to do.
02:13.59lankanmonOh, so I will be able to direct calls that come from POTS strait to voip service, but calls from voip service need to be validated by pin and then it must ask for a number to dial...
02:14.07lankanmonis that do able?
02:15.35lankanmon(like a call service - but for myself) - that is why it needs pin to validate that it is me
02:16.01WIMPyWhatever you configure.
02:16.56lankanmonok
02:17.10lankanmonfor now, I got AsteriskNow working in a VM
02:17.26lankanmonI will play around with it while I learn and get the hardware together
02:20.34SamotWhat do you mean by VOIP service?
02:21.23lankanmonone sode connecta to pots other to voip. so i can call though voip to a local number
02:25.52SamotSo there is no VOIP provider.
02:26.03SamotNo one that gives you a connection to/from the PSTN
02:26.12SamotThat's only done on the POTS line?
02:27.00lankanmoni have voip service.  i want to connect to it
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02:29.02SamotSo why would you route an incoming call from the POTS to the VOIP provider?
02:29.13SamotUnless you're CFing to your cell phone.
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02:36.36Pegasus_RPGHello. Anyone here experienced with Snom phones, specifically the 300? I'm just trying to activate TLS again after a firmware update and the phone is saying the certificate issuer is not recognized. It's issued by an intermediate CA whose cert I uploaded to the phone, and the parent CA is already present.
02:36.36Pegasus_RPGSure I can add an exception but I shouldn't have to
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02:42.38lankanmonSamot: So the thing is I live in canada, the rest of my family are in asia
02:42.50lankanmonit costs a lot to communicate with them via phone
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02:43.21lankanmonso last year I went and setup a voip service at my home there so I can talk to my family
02:43.40lankanmonbut now I want to expant that so I can also make outgoing calls to local numbers.
02:43.44SamotLike I said, if you're doing for that you're good.
02:43.57lankanmonthat is why I hope to setup this system
02:43.59SamotBut you only need to do that if you're remote.
02:44.16lankanmonyes I will be in canada, so I need a reliable system
02:44.17SamotOtherwise you would just dial directly out of the VOIP provider.
02:44.41lankanmonyes my phone service in canada is fully voip
02:45.22lankanmonthe call rates for local calls there is cheap compared to the rates I pay to call from here
02:45.33lankanmonso thats why I want to set it up
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03:11.35lankanmonSamot - Does the VOIP service connect to asterisk through SOA232D or through the PI (asterisk running on PI)
03:12.40SamotWell it would depend on your service with them and what they allow
03:12.58SamotSounds like you have a typical service which they expect to be on an ATA
03:13.09lankanmonyes i think so
03:13.15SamotYou're going to want to get a SIP Trunk.
03:13.16lankanmoni just connect it to a phone
03:13.30SamotYou're going to need to talk to them about it
03:13.34SamotWhat they allow, etc.
03:14.23lankanmonwould i be able to use it with my current by connecting my VOIP device to the SOA232D as a line?
03:18.02lankanmonCan u see this? drathir
03:18.29lankanmonhttps://awwapp.com/b/ubegzoadd/
03:18.43lankanmonI drew out what I have in my head
03:23.10SamotYou would have to see what the 232D can do.
03:23.22SamotBut technically you could but your VOIP account on the FXS line.
03:24.25lankanmonbut then don't i need 2 ports?
03:28.52lankanmonHow does this look? https://www.amazon.ca/Grandstream-GS-HT702-Handytone-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B007PEIHKE?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
03:29.03lankanmonits cheaper... which would be better for me
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03:37.29lankanmonSamot: Also do younthink a rasp pi 2 model b can handle the tasks? I can't find a pi 3 for cheap ATM
03:37.42SamotShould be fine. You're not doing much with it
03:38.18lankanmonany thaughts on the grandstram HT702?
03:38.31Samotlankanmon: I personally despise Grandstream.
03:38.31lankanmonit is supposed to have 2 FXS ports
03:39.02SamotOK let's break this down.
03:39.07SamotLet's start with the PBX
03:39.14SamotPBX = Pi2
03:39.28lankanmonyes
03:39.33lankanmoni get that
03:39.36SamotPBX will have one extension, your home phone.
03:40.01SamotIn order to use that extension you need an ATA or a Softphone.
03:40.14lankanmonok
03:40.18SamotNow you want to receive and make calls
03:40.19lankanmonI have ATA
03:40.54SamotYou have both POTS and VOIP service.
03:41.01lankanmonyes
03:41.10SamotNow do you want both to connect to the PBX?
03:41.45lankanmonI want to place this setup in the other side of the world, and call it via VPN
03:42.01SamotLet's not get a head.
03:42.07lankanmonIt will ask me for the number I want to dial and then forward
03:42.31SamotWhere is the PBX going to be physically located?
03:42.46lankanmonin another country
03:43.05SamotOK and how will it be able to send and receive calls?
03:43.10SamotWill it have a VOIP provider?
03:43.14lankanmonyes
03:43.29SamotOK
03:43.30lankanmonI currently have a voip setup there but I can only call that one home
03:43.45lankanmonI want to call that home + other local homes at a local rate
03:43.48SamotSo now you want to be able to call into your home and forward that call out?
03:44.01lankanmonyes
03:44.08lankanmonpercisely
03:44.24SamotWhy does the PBX need to be in another country?
03:44.50lankanmonto handle calls and dial out
03:45.00lankanmonI am not sure how to keep it here
03:45.04SamotIt doesn't physically need to be in the country to do that.
03:45.08SamotIt's an IPBX
03:45.14SamotInternet.
03:45.21lankanmonHmmmm...
03:45.28SamotHere's what you do
03:45.33SamotSetup the PBX in your house.
03:45.39SamotCreate an extension for you.
03:45.51SamotCreate an extension for your mom (example) who's in Asia.
03:46.13SamotNow your mom just needs an ATA that's programmed to connect on her extension to the PBX
03:46.33lankanmonyes that is my current setup.
03:46.44SamotSo if you're extension 1000 and she's 1001, you can just pick up the phone and dial 1001
03:47.07SamotThen you're just calling a "local" extension on the PBX
03:47.11lankanmonbut lets say I want to call my aunt... or uncle.. So I want to be able to call theior landline so as to avaoid giveing everyont an atx
03:47.15lankanmon*ATA
03:47.17Samot$0 billing.
03:47.23SamotOK
03:47.37lankanmonyes I currently dial 102 and it calls there for free
03:47.49lankanmonI just want to call out as well...
03:48.07SamotRemotely?
03:48.49SamotLocally? Both?
03:49.01SamotSo like you're at the mall and want to call mom..
03:49.07SamotYou want to call home and then call her?
03:49.48lankanmonno
03:49.59SamotSo you just want to do this from home?
03:50.22lankanmonI call the extension on my phone and call to asia (my home there fore free)
03:50.38SamotOK
03:50.41lankanmonI then want PBX to ask me for a local number. when I dial, it wil connect me
03:50.50SamotLocal?
03:50.53SamotTo who?
03:50.54lankanmonI can then talk to my aunt
03:51.01lankanmonlocal to asia
03:51.07lankanmonlong distance from here
03:51.12SamotNo, International.
03:51.19SamotLong Distance is Yukon
03:51.24lankanmonyes
03:51.40lankanmonSo the rates are super high otherwise
03:51.42SamotWho is your VOIP provider?
03:51.49lankanmonbut local rates are tiny
03:51.53lankanmonVOIP.ms
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03:53.31SamotThey provide the ATA or is it yours?
03:53.43lankanmonit is mine on both sides
03:53.56lankanmonone is an Obihi202
03:54.00SamotSo you really don't need a PBX to make this work.
03:54.03lankanmonthe other is a grand stream
03:54.06SamotYou already have it working.
03:54.16lankanmonbut I can not dial out
03:54.20SamotWhy not?
03:54.21lankanmonit is a closed system
03:54.34SamotThey haven't activated International on your account probably.
03:54.56SamotDoesn't matter if you have a PBX or not. If they won't send International calls, nothing is going to work.
03:55.05lankanmonoh, no I can call international, but the rates are still much higher than local
03:55.29lankanmonI currently have it set as an extention
03:55.32SamotWhat do you mean?
03:55.38SamotLocal = Local dialing to you
03:56.19lankanmonI can make local calls on my end and the device in asia can also make local calls in my end, but I can not make local calls there...
03:56.31SamotRight.
03:56.43SamotBecause the account is setup based on your location.
03:56.49lankanmonI want to make and recive local calls there
03:56.53lankanmonyes
03:57.07SamotOK, you need to either have VOIP.ms turn on International dialing for you
03:57.27SamotOr, if you put the PBX there, you need a provider there that will handle the calls.
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03:57.49lankanmonbut I can make international calls from voip.ms, but the rates are super high
03:57.49SamotIt doesn't matter if I take my IP phone to the UK.
03:58.01SamotThen you need to find a carrier with lower rates.
03:58.18SamotIt's based on your number.
03:58.27lankanmonwouldn't PBX negate that totally?
03:58.32SamotNo.
03:58.57lankanmonbecause I will be dialing an extention (free) then calling a local number there (local rates vs international)
03:59.03SamotYou still need to connect the PBX to a carrier that will handle the calls to/from the PSTN
03:59.07SamotNo.
03:59.25SamotYour extension in Asia is an extension of your Canadian based account.
03:59.40SamotIt's why they can call Canada with standard rates.
03:59.49SamotIf I take my IP phone to the UK...
03:59.59SamotAll my calls to the US/Canada are going to be my normal rates.
04:00.09SamotBut if I call a number in the UK, it's still International.
04:00.21SamotBecause my number is a US number.
04:00.55lankanmoncan't pbx act like a phone card service whare it asks for a ew number and dials it?
04:00.57SamotYou can get a International number from VOIP.ms in that area.
04:01.02SamotSure.
04:01.14SamotBut it still needs to send the call to a carrier/provider.
04:01.20SamotWho then routes that call over the PSTN
04:01.34SamotThere is still a charge.
04:01.37lankanmonyes I will be getting a second line to my home there
04:01.54lankanmonthat way my relatives can call me on that number and it will ring over here in canada
04:02.21SamotOK. So if you get a number in Asia..
04:02.29SamotSend your calls out that number.
04:03.03lankanmonyes
04:03.20SamotBut the PBX can still physically be at your house.
04:03.47SamotYou could even go to someplace like Vultr or Digital Ocean and get a VM server.
04:03.47lankanmonand connect to the telephone adapter through the net?
04:03.55SamotYes, that's the point of it.
04:04.05lankanmonok that sounds doable
04:04.14lankanmonI just hope there is not much lag
04:04.23jfindleyThat works out pretty well.
04:04.45jfindleyI just took on a client in India doing the same thing. There's a little latency, but the audio quality is good.
04:04.50SamotWell no matter where you put the PBX there will be latency for one side.
04:05.03SamotIt's about 300-400ms there.
04:05.23SamotI've had customer all over India.
04:05.25lankanmonthe regular calls I make work well, if I can get that, then I am happy
04:05.51SamotBut basically you need an International DID
04:06.07SamotOr look at other providers like flowroute.com
04:06.57lankanmonthey do not sell international DIDs
04:07.06SamotThe only way you're going to have $0 billing between you and Asia is if all the end points are attached to the PBX.
04:07.21Samothttps://voip.ms/intldids.php
04:07.24SamotThey sure do.
04:07.59lankanmonI am not looking for $0 billing, just cheap billing on the asia side and free connection between
04:08.52SamotWhat country?
04:09.10lankanmonSri Lanka
04:09.41lankanmonit is an uncommon country, so phone companies do not offer good rates
04:09.48SamotNope.
04:10.23SamotI think it's actually consider High Cost which limits access.
04:11.15lankanmonprobably
04:11.16SamotWhat is the cost per minute for you now?
04:11.30lankanmon13 cents/m
04:12.16SamotThat's standard.
04:12.51SamotIf you look really hard you might find someone that could have it cheaper.
04:12.52lankanmonyeah, but local rates will be around 2 cents/min
04:13.02SamotBut it's not going to be much cheaper.
04:13.14SamotAgain, get a Sri Lanka based DID.
04:13.22lankanmonnot sure how
04:13.57lankanmontheir tech is a bit behind and phone companies are not too happy about VOIP
04:15.19SamotMost phone companies have adopted VOIP
04:16.41lankanmonnot them... they are still trying to milk the international charges
04:18.15SamotVOIP.ms?
04:18.46SamotVOIP.ms is not a phone company.
04:18.55SamotThey are a VOIP provider.
04:19.08lankanmoni was talking about the phone companies in SL
04:19.32SamotWell unfortunately, you're going to be stuck with about $0.13/minute
04:19.40lankanmonvoip.ms does not have SL dids
04:19.45SamotNope.
04:19.47SamotNot many do.
04:20.00lankanmonyeah thats why i want to rool my own system
04:20.05SamotIt's not a country North American countries generally play nice with.
04:20.18lankanmonI was really happy with the one I setup last year
04:20.23SamotUnless you're going to roll out your own backbone and interconnects with carriers...
04:20.38SamotYou still need a carrier/provider.
04:20.43lankanmoncant i jus tconnect to normal phone line
04:20.52SamotPOTS?
04:20.53SamotSure.
04:20.55lankanmonyes
04:20.59lankanmonthat was my plan
04:21.03SamotAnd .13/minute will double.
04:21.09lankanmonwhy?
04:21.22SamotBecause generally those carriers are still using TDM.
04:21.51lankanmonnot firmiliar with TDM
04:21.56SamotCopper wires.
04:22.12SamotTraditional phone service.
04:22.16lankanmonso, its not possible to connet to POTS?
04:22.23SamotYes it is.
04:22.32lankanmonI thaut that is why you need FXS
04:22.39SamotYes.
04:22.43lankanmoninstaed of FXO
04:22.46SamotNo.
04:22.54SamotFXS = out
04:23.08SamotThe phone jack in your wall is FXS
04:23.14SamotThe jack on your ATA is FXS.
04:23.26SamotThe jack on your analog phone is FXO
04:24.01lankanmonSo, why can it not be connected to the wall over there?
04:24.13SamotBecause the call still has to go through someone.
04:24.24SamotThere is infrastructure involved here.
04:24.40SamotThat connection has to get from you to the other side.
04:24.46lankanmonwill it not go though the sri lankan phone provider?
04:24.48SamotThat's what the provider does.
04:25.00SamotSure, if you want to deal with them
04:25.08SamotAnd have to setup over there locally.
04:25.24lankanmonI was just planning on setting up a second line there
04:25.35lankanmonI will be going there this summer and can set it up
04:25.56SamotAre there VOIP providers there?
04:25.59SamotThat offer SIP trunks?
04:26.09lankanmonnone that i am aware of
04:26.25lankanmonthe market is dominated by 3 big companies and it is hard to penetrate
04:26.36lankanmonlots of financial motivation
04:27.04SamotThe only other way you can do this is two PBX systems.
04:27.16SamotOne there and one with you
04:27.29lankanmonhow will that work?
04:27.31SamotAsia PBX connects via FXS/FXO to the local carrier.
04:27.46SamotCanada PBX connects via SIP to VOIP.ms
04:28.03SamotAnd you can use a SIP or IAX2 trunk to connect the two PBXes together
04:28.41lankanmonbut why cant the PBX server in SL just connect straight to voip.ms from there?
04:28.58lankanmonthen I just connect to it as an extention
04:28.59SamotSure.
04:29.25SamotAt that point I would just put a PBX in the cloud.
04:29.53SamotOh but you can't because you need FXS/FXO
04:29.56lankanmonmaybe I will, I need to do a cost benefit anaysis to see what option is cheaper
04:30.07SamotYou can put the PBX in SL
04:30.10lankanmontrue
04:30.26SamotYou'll still need the FXS/FXO card or device.
04:30.39lankanmonhttps://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B007PEIHKE/
04:30.44lankanmonI was thionking of this one
04:30.50lankanmonit is relatively cheap
04:30.56SamotNo
04:31.01SamotYou need something with FXO
04:31.13SamotYou need something that you can plug the phone line from the SL carrier into.
04:31.21SamotFXS is OUT
04:31.22lankanmonoh
04:31.37SamotIn the layout.
04:32.05lankanmonOk I will need to look around
04:32.19lankanmonWill you be around tomorrow?
04:32.39lankanmonI have to go now...
04:32.47lankanmonI really appriciate all your help
04:33.03SamotI'm always online, it will be a case if I see the message.
04:33.41lankanmonok thats fine... I am usuall always online as well, just AFK
04:37.39jfindleyWhat's the best way to track a call through the dialplan? e.g., a call comes in to some context, a dial is made which executes a macro when the call is answered, then back to the context for cleanup. Currently I use a channel variable set with __ in the beginning, but is there a better way?
04:38.31jfindleyerr, at each of these points I make AGI calls where logic dependent on the call metadata takes place
04:38.57jfindleysomething like agi_threadid would be nice, but that ID changes when the agi call is made in the macro.
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13:47.36pckzhey
13:48.35pckzwe have a bug with asterisk, in the automatic menu with phone numbers. All devices works perfect, but only iphones got freeze when the first key we press is "1" key
13:48.45pckzis just in iphones
13:48.55pckzand only with key 1
13:49.08pckzafter that doesn't works any other number of the menu
13:49.49[TK]D-Fenderthen that's a problem on the iphone,  not an Asterisk problem.
13:50.09[TK]D-FenderAsterisk can't make an iphone "freeze"
13:50.22pckzwe've tested with a lot of devices
13:50.28pckznop sorry
13:50.34pckzisn't freeze
13:50.52pckzis just asterisk continue the automatic response
13:51.02pckzbut can't get any option
13:51.51[TK]D-FenderShow us the actual call
13:51.55[TK]D-Fender~pb
13:51.55infobotA "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
13:51.57[TK]D-Fender^^^
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13:53.49pckzhaha sorry
13:54.07pckzhow can I show you the call
13:55.42[TK]D-Fender* CLI
13:59.04pckzactually doesn't works with any key
13:59.33pckzhumm what does * CLI means?. Sorry for this, first time that I see asterisk. But I learn fast hahaha :(
14:00.01[TK]D-Fenderasterisk -rvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
14:00.09[TK]D-FenderIf you don't know CLI then you haven't learned your basics
14:00.11[TK]D-Fender~book
14:00.12infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
14:00.13[TK]D-Fender^
14:00.47[TK]D-FenderAnd I find it hard to believe you'd ahve gone to the point of actually creating an IVR yourself without having gknown how to use * CLI
14:01.28pckznop, I'm try to fix
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14:03.21[TK]D-FenderWhat do you mean "nop"?
14:03.30[TK]D-FenderYOU didn't configure your system?
14:03.30pckzbut I didn't set up by myself
14:03.35[TK]D-FenderWho did?
14:04.55pckzI'm watching CLI and just reach : Probation passed - setting RTP source address to ....
14:06.11[TK]D-FenderThat is impossible if you issued the command I gave you and you placed a call your systtem actually processed
14:06.21pckzand after that with my iphone ,asterisk can't detect the keys. But with android works like a charm :/
14:06.29[TK]D-FenderShow the call
14:08.17pckzshow the call means that I have to show you what is displayed by the CLI right?
14:09.57[TK]D-Fenderyes
14:10.00[TK]D-FenderGo to CLI
14:10.02[TK]D-Fenderplace the call
14:10.08[TK]D-FenderPASTEBIN the whole thing
14:10.11[TK]D-Fender~pb
14:10.11infobotA "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
14:10.13[TK]D-Fender^^^
14:10.34[TK]D-FenderIF you see NOTHING then your call isn;t even hitting your server and our time is being wasted
14:11.49pckzthis is a call from iphone: http://pastebin.com/KWAHxUuE
14:12.25pckzand this is a call from an android: http://pastebin.com/d6aEVGqf
14:12.30pckzjust works the android call :D
14:13.32[TK]D-Fenderthat is a call from your PROVIDER
14:13.58[TK]D-Fenderqwhich means your DTMF mode isn't set right in your peer or you are using an AUDIO stream that is not stable enough
14:14.08[TK]D-FenderSIP/sipentel
14:14.10pckzsorry for the worng link with the iphone call, this is: http://pastebin.com/8b5FFv4d
14:14.25[TK]D-Fender^ What "dtmfmode=" setting are you using for this in sip.conf?
14:15.01pckzdtmfmode=rfc2833
14:15.16[TK]D-Fenderpckzwe have a bug with asterisk, in the automatic menu with phone numbers. All devices works perfect, but only iphones got freeze when the first key we press is "1" key <- doesn't match this description yet.  I don't see that iphone call getting ANY digit in first THEN failing
14:15.47pckzyep, that is the issue
14:15.57[TK]D-Fendertry "inband" instead of "rfc2833" and test
14:16.08[TK]D-Fendermake the change then do "sip reload"
14:16.13[TK]D-Fenderfrom CLI
14:16.22[TK]D-Fenderyou should see it telling you that it is reloading your configs
14:16.37WIMPyOh, BTW: Can anyone confirm that dtmfmode=inband works for sending DTMF for them?
14:16.38pckzthanks, I will try
14:19.00[TK]D-FenderWIMPy: Does if the carrier isn't filtering it.
14:19.12[TK]D-FenderWIMPy: Some do all sorts of stupid things
14:19.21[TK]D-Fenderand... we're about to see...
14:19.35WIMPyIt already sounds shreddered if I record the channel with MixMonitor.
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14:23.23pckzohhh
14:23.28pckzthanks [TK]D-Fender
14:23.45pckzit's working! [anakin gif]
14:24.23pckzyou're a god
14:26.56[TK]D-FenderNo, far from, but I have a clue.
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16:13.27jamescI don't see to have the REPLACE Function when was this introduced
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16:22.31*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.7.2 (2016/02/05), 11.21.2 (2016/02/11); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.10.0 (2014/08/13), DAHDI-tools 2.10.0 (2014/08/13); libpri 1.4.15 (2014/06/16) -=- Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
16:22.32[TK]D-Fenderin any version 11+
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16:45.51jamesc[TK]D-Fender: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+func+REPLACE
16:46.05[TK]D-FenderThat wiki is shit
16:46.15[TK]D-Fendernot "the shit".  The negative kind
16:46.23jamesc[TK]D-Fender: Is ther an alternative method.
16:46.36[TK]D-Fenderthe official WIKI.  The source where you can see actual modules.
16:46.40[TK]D-Fender"core show functions", etc
16:46.52[TK]D-Fenderhttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+11+Function_STRREPLACE
16:46.59[TK]D-FenderWhich would show you this actual function
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16:47.57jamesc[TK]D-Fender: is there a method for 1.6 compataible
16:48.11[TK]D-Fendergo look at your function list
16:48.24[TK]D-Fender1.6 is not supported, neither is 1.8, 10, or 12.
16:48.48[TK]D-Fender11 Shouldn't even be considered since 13 is LTS and 11 ges into sec fix only in a few months.
16:52.04filetime flies
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17:05.23retentiveboyDoes pjsip support getting external_*_address periodically from a DNS lookup to support setups behind a NAT'ing router with a dynamic public address?
17:12.31[TK]D-Fendernope
17:12.40[TK]D-Fenderthat's one of the key unfortunate things about it
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17:21.18retentiveboycrap
17:22.25[TK]D-Fenderyou could always script config file regens based on a polling script, but it's uglier than it should be.
17:22.59retentiveboyYeah, ugly but sounds like it'll be required.  RetentiveBoy isn't happy.
17:24.28retentiveboyrelated...  is there syntax to include another file into one of the .conf files?
17:25.22retentiveboy(I should google first...)
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17:26.53ledoktreI was going to update to Asterisk Certified LTS 13.1-cert4 on Debian Jessie, and I'm running into a couple of quirks.  Hoping someone here might be able to point me in the right direction.  1.  configure script stops with a syntax error on line 19170 of configure script - near unexpected token ILBC and bombs.  Anyone seen this?  2. pjsip is now apparently the defacto.  What libraries do I need to satisfy the install?
17:30.37[TK]D-FenderTThere is no "defacto"
17:30.42[TK]D-FenderYou use whatever you configure
17:30.49[TK]D-Fenderchan_sip wasn't removed
17:31.03[TK]D-Fenderalso Cert = worthless unless you're paying for Digium support.
17:31.16[TK]D-Fenderdecimal revisions matter as they added real features between them
17:35.42ledoktre[TK]D-Fender.  Yeah, Im not using premium support.  Guess certified there means something a bit different than other places.  Curious now - you are recommending just installing the regular 13.7.2 as opposed to any LTS or Certified version, right?
17:37.31Samot13 is LTS
17:38.29[TK]D-Fenderhttp://www.asterisk.org/downloads/asterisk/all-asterisk-versions
17:38.34ledoktreYeah guess your right.  I misread that.  I was looking for LTS and saw it listed as 13.1.4 and thought it happened to be the same as Certified.  My bad :-p
17:38.35SamotYou just want 13 not Cert if no Digium support like [TK]D-Fender said
17:39.16ledoktre[TK]D-Fender: Yeah, Im on that page right now.  I just mis-read it.     Point well drilled, thanks Fender and Samot both.
17:39.43ledoktreI'll try compile with the non cert version see if the configure error persists
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17:56.41retentiveboyIs it safe to "core reload" when there are active calls?
17:56.57retentiveboyWell, "safe" as in won't drop calls.
17:57.12[TK]D-Fendernope.
17:57.18[TK]D-Fenderwait...
17:57.23[TK]D-Fendersorry, that should be ok
17:57.28retentiveboySame with "pjsip reload"?
17:57.35[TK]D-Fenderreload just does the configs not a full module reload
17:57.42[TK]D-Fendershould be safe
17:58.44retentiveboythe "pjsip reload" alias looks like "module reload res_pjsip*.so" under the hood
17:59.29ledoktre[TK]D-Fender - 13.7.2 resolved compile issue.  I guess I completely misunderstood what "certified" meant.   Thanks for straightening me out.
17:59.45[TK]D-FenderYou're welcome
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18:06.09retentiveboy[TK]D-Fender, "sorcery_object_load: Type 'transport' is not reloadable"
18:06.29retentiveboyLooks like reloading from a cron script is going to be really messy
18:06.55retentiveboyor is that unrelated?
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18:12.19[TK]D-FenderThat looks VERY related... and it's noticing a transport.
18:12.49[TK]D-Fenderbecause the transport changes it thinks it might including changing a port binding even though our target is the advertised address
18:12.56[TK]D-FenderMight not actually be doable... which would suck
18:13.08retentiveboyTesting
18:26.56retentiveboy[TK]D-Fender, confirmed.  "pjsip show transport transport-udp-nat" shows external_* values don't change after changing pjsip.conf and a "core reload".  Crap.
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18:44.55dan_jHi. When using Queues and RingAll, is it possible to delay some agents from ringing? A client wants junior staff to ring first, and then add senior staff after 20 seconds if junior staff havent answered.
18:45.31dan_jMy thought was if there was some sort of delay or penalty that can be set to a number of seconds.
18:45.41dan_jon a per agent basis.
18:46.45[TK]D-FenderThere is
18:46.48[TK]D-FenderRead the tooltips
18:47.10dan_jI saw penalty but is that used when using ringall?
18:47.30[TK]D-Fenderyes
18:47.51[TK]D-FenderWho is in a given level isn't tied to a specific strategy.
18:48.02[TK]D-FenderWhere do you see "only works with type X"?
18:49.46dan_jI just assumed RINGALL does just that.
18:49.48dan_j"entries with higher penalties are considered last"
18:49.57dan_jWhat is there to consider if you are ringing all?
18:51.20[TK]D-FenderWho you're rining?
19:08.13dan_jIf you are ringingall, then how does the penalty work? IE what effect does it have if it rings all anyway?
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19:24.40dan_jI think i've got it. I'm going to make two queues. The first only having junior members, and the second having junior and senior members. Calls will move from the 1st to the 2nd queue after 20 seconds if they arent answered, and the 2nd queue will have a higher weight so that it takes priority over the 1st queue.
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21:06.29pangaHello
21:06.45pangaHave someone receive this error before?
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21:07.04[TK]D-FenderPASETBIN
21:07.07panga<PROTECTED>
21:07.10[TK]D-FenderDO NOT FLOOD IN HERE
21:07.12panga<PROTECTED>
21:07.14[TK]D-Fender~pb
21:07.15infobotA "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
21:07.16[TK]D-Fender^^^
21:07.17panga[2016-03-10 17:54:41] ERROR[56484]: netsock2.c:269 ast_sockaddr_resolve: getaddrinfo("dynamic", "(null)", ...): Name or service not known
21:07.20panga[2016-03-10 17:54:41] WARNING[56484]: acl.c:833 resolve_first: Unable to lookup 'dynamic'
21:07.22pangaSure
21:07.41pangahere is
21:07.42pangahttp://pastebin.com/UThr9D7e
21:08.01pangaI can call between phones
21:08.09pangain the same network
21:08.19pangabut I can't call outside
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21:08.51[TK]D-FenderAutofalltthough
21:08.57[TK]D-Fendervery clearly a dialplan failure
21:09.26pangaI'm using Macro instead of GoSub
21:09.36[TK]D-Fenderthat is a GOTO
21:09.40pangaSince I'm migrating from and old version
21:09.42[TK]D-FenderAnd it failed
21:10.57pangaSo I have to recheck  extensions.conf
21:11.11[TK]D-FenderYou can see right there what it's doing
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21:13.18pangaNo sure what I should check :-/
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21:16.49panga[TK]D-Fender: Do you have another clue to me?
21:16.57[TK]D-FenderClue?
21:17.01[TK]D-FenderThre is no clue.
21:17.09[TK]D-FenderYou SEE the line number that is doing that Goto.
21:17.11[TK]D-FenderGO THERE
21:17.15[TK]D-Fendermake your changes
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21:17.36[TK]D-Fender^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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21:19.45[TK]D-FenderExecuting [s@macro-trunkdial-failover-0.3:2] <-----
21:29.58[TK]D-Fenderpacks up and heads home
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21:40.00pangaI can receive incoming calls, but I can do outgoing calls, someone has that issue?
21:40.38WIMPyIs there a "not" missing?
21:41.10pangaFist time configuring asterisk :-/
21:44.40acidfoo_"The latest versions of the 79xx firmware finally support UDP communications" Jason Rose.   https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-13145
21:44.56acidfoo_does anyone know if its true that the latest firmware support SIP UDP ?
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21:52.13vader-Can anyone recommend some fax settings? So I followed this guide to setup the Cisco SPA112 for faxing: https://www.t38fax.com/support/knowledgebase/cisco-spa112-2-port-phone-adapter/
21:52.37vader-and I enabled T38 passthrough, as well as using a SIP provider that does T38 pass through
21:52.40vader-Flowroute
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22:25.15[TK]D-Fenderpanga
22:25.15[TK]D-FenderI can receive incoming calls, but I can do outgoing calls, someone has that issue?
22:25.30[TK]D-FenderLots of people have had lots of issues.  You'll have to actually look at yours
22:25.43[TK]D-FenderAnd properly state which one is NOT working...
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22:49.08lankanmonWill this work with asterisk running on a rasp pi? https://www.amazon.ca/LINKSYS-SPA-3000-UNLOCKED-Analog-Adapter/dp/B00MFCMNNI/
22:49.15lankanmonI need to connect to POTS
22:49.25lankanmonand to voip on the other ends
22:49.48WIMPyIt will work with anythign that has a network connection.
22:50.07lankanmonso this should work right?
22:50.18lankanmonI am really on a budget and this would be great
22:59.26lankanmonSamot: You on?
22:59.44SamotAbout to eat dinner
22:59.55SamotBsck in a while
23:00.02lankanmonok
23:00.15lankanmonjust take a look at the link when u have a chance...
23:16.09rrittgarnhaving an issue with the email notifications in voicemail.conf - specifically i am trying to print the ${UNIQUEID} in the email and it is just coming up blank - like the variable has no value. I have another server with almost identical voicemail.conf settings and no problems. Is there somewhere else that this feature is dependent on that i'm missing?
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23:44.43Samotlankanmon: its fine. Out of production for years but fine.
23:45.08SamotIll be around later
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23:51.07RadicalDevWith FastAGI, what's the best way to test if either the caller, callee, or both have hung up?
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