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| 05:29.40 | drmessano | Why don't you purify yourself in the waters of lake minnetonka |
| 05:30.52 | Ellenor | Nah |
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| 07:04.19 | MaliutaLap | drmessano: because I'm as pure as the driven snow :P |
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| 17:01.05 | amonk | Anyone know the status of xmpp with googlevoice? Is it still working with Asterisk or no? |
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| 17:56.20 | Ellenor | amonk: <_< |
| 18:11.28 | amonk | if someone answered my xmpp googlevoice questio, sorry, but i missed it. had a crash. prolly not, being xmaseve and all, but if so, please repost. |
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| 18:42.37 | saint_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.21 | amonk | saint_: thanks, but how long ago? |
| 18:44.50 | saint_ | amonk last year. i stopped when i read somewhere that google was going to charge for google voice. they never did. i should have waited. |
| 18:51.29 | amonk | thanks, a little late, i guess |
| 18:51.49 | drmessano | Xmpp is going away at Google |
| 18:51.59 | drmessano | It's deprecated and being replaced |
| 18:52.00 | amonk | anyone else know if chan_gtalk still works with google today? |
| 18:52.13 | drmessano | depends |
| 18:52.26 | drmessano | Does your account use Hangouts? |
| 18:52.33 | amonk | drmessano: yeah, that been the word for years now. so, i only care if it does or doesn't now. |
| 18:52.47 | drmessano | If it's been upgraded to Hangouts then it doesn't work |
| 18:53.02 | amonk | no. i never used hangouts |
| 18:53.03 | drmessano | If you get a new account, it won't have Google Talk |
| 18:53.29 | drmessano | If you never upgraded to Hangouts then the answer is definitely maybe. |
| 18:53.40 | drmessano | If you did, it definitely no |
| 18:53.51 | amonk | so, are you saying then that because i never used/"upgraded" to hangouts that my account will still support chan_gtalk today? |
| 18:53.54 | drmessano | And that's a strong "Maybe" |
| 18:54.04 | drmessano | I'm saying its "maybe". |
| 18:54.15 | amonk | okay, definitely maybe. and more detailed maybe. thanks |
| 18:54.30 | drmessano | Not everyone with a non-upgraded account can still do it |
| 18:54.48 | drmessano | But if you did Hangouts, it's 100% no |
| 18:55.19 | drmessano | Chan_gtalk sucks BTW |
| 18:55.32 | drmessano | You should upgrade and use chan_motif |
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| 18:55.56 | onebree | Have a merry christmas and happy holiday, everyone! |
| 18:56.16 | amonk | okay. thanks. i generally loathe companies new crap for the same old crap that runs one deeper and deeper into their walled gardens, so i eschew them all like the plague. i will not upgrade. they must upgrade me by force. |
| 18:56.35 | mjordan | how much are you paying for gtalk? |
| 18:56.42 | mjordan | or google voice, for that matter. |
| 18:56.49 | drmessano | There's nothing shady about a new Asterisk |
| 18:56.55 | drmessano | Or more closed |
| 18:57.06 | drmessano | Not sure what that's even about |
| 18:57.10 | mjordan | drmessano: other than the usual ... things.... THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE DONE. |
| 18:57.13 | amonk | why does chan_gtalk suck? and i guess you're saying chan_motif will make googlevoice calls via hangounts? |
| 18:57.18 | mjordan | no |
| 18:57.21 | drmessano | No I'm not |
| 18:57.39 | mjordan | chan_gtalk was a pretty bad implementation of a cobbled together/reverse engineered Google Voice flavored Jingle |
| 18:57.40 | drmessano | Chan_motif is a better implementation of what you're trying to do |
| 18:57.57 | drmessano | There is no bridge to hangouts. Never will be |
| 18:57.59 | mjordan | chan_motif was written after Google stopped playing "let's change the spec again", so it's a better implementation |
| 18:58.05 | mjordan | amen to that |
| 18:58.10 | drmessano | ^ |
| 18:58.20 | mjordan | One Google product to chase after is enough, thank you very much |
| 18:59.01 | amonk | well, that what i'm wanting to do, so if chan_motif doesn't do it, it's not a fit anyway |
| 18:59.06 | drmessano | chan_motif is so much more stable. But obviously depends on the thing Google is looking to kill off. I'm just saying if you're going to take a shot at it, use the right channel driver |
| 18:59.32 | onebree | I cannot find much on this error. Can anyone help me with it? >> PJ ICE Rx error status code: 370400 'Bad Request'. |
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| 18:59.43 | drmessano | No one will or can help you with chan_gtalk. We hate it |
| 19:00.02 | drmessano | It kills kittens |
| 19:00.14 | amonk | mjordan: exactly. i hate the chase game. especially when they had it all open standard. it's lets' be evil long ago, rather than don't be evil, clearly |
| 19:00.20 | mjordan | and as far as chan_motif goes... if you have a bug that is XMPP related, then there's hope. Given that Google is slowly but surely terminating Google Voice, the desire to keep investing time & energy into it is minimal. |
| 19:00.35 | mjordan | Patches welcome, always, of course. |
| 19:01.03 | mjordan | 'it' being the XMPP flavor that Google used, at any rate. |
| 19:01.23 | onebree | I did not get the error while using chan_gtalk. Just asking how I can debug it |
| 19:01.39 | mjordan | onebree: chan_gtalk didn't have ICE. |
| 19:01.39 | amonk | drmessano: i see, but if it doesn't do what i want, it's a paper weight, regardless of how nice at what i'm not after. but i'll file your assesment for prosperity |
| 19:02.04 | amonk | drmessano: i'm not looking for help. i'm looking for current status. |
| 19:02.27 | mjordan | onebree: most likely you've configured ICE for your endpoint in motif.conf, and are talking to something that doesn't support ICE. |
| 19:04.05 | onebree | Like this person, I experience the error when doing video with linphone: http://forums.asterisk.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92110 |
| 19:04.18 | mjordan | prosperity is always good. And drmessano's assessment matches reality. The official status for GTalk/GVoice support is as it has been for a long time: if you can make it work; great. If not, you can either patch it, or not. The project itself isn't going to try and work around Google's support or lack thereof. |
| 19:04.55 | mjordan | Sounds like linphone is sending a bad request or doing ICE wrong. |
| 19:05.22 | onebree | I think that is the case, because I have icesupport=yes where necessary, and even enabled in the linphone phone app (checkbox) |
| 19:05.32 | amonk | mjordan: never asked. only asked for status. i'm not big on tech support. but thanks for the input |
| 19:05.39 | mjordan | wanders off |
| 19:07.18 | amonk | also, reality is relative in a pluralistic word, but that's a much deeper level of technical than mere computers, so. |
| 19:12.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Reality is for people who can't handle drugs. |
| 19:16.55 | onebree | Hmm, I just added icesupport=yes to the linphone user, and does not seem to help. |
| 19:18.24 | drmessano | amonk I don't understand the need for the snark. |
| 19:19.00 | onebree | What is the difference between chan_sip and chan_pjsip? |
| 19:19.20 | amonk | [TK]D-Fender: yea, man. self-transforming machine elves handle everything anyway. ;) |
| 19:19.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Totally separate code stacks |
| 19:20.43 | onebree | [TK]D-Fender: I have a user set in sip.conf, but when they enable video via the linphone app, an error from res_rtp_asterisk.c is triggered, making me think I should look at pjsip stuff |
| 19:20.52 | amonk | drmessano: i don't see the snark. it's a point of fact in that realty you speak of, at least from the perspective of it which is mine that i speak of, and i'm pretty sure would be shared by most rational, non-solipsistic people. that's all. |
| 19:21.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Both use a shared RTP module |
| 19:22.16 | onebree | Should I still configure pjsip.conf? (I only have sip.conf setup) |
| 19:22.27 | [TK]D-Fender | You said it's chan_sip |
| 19:22.37 | [TK]D-Fender | if so then obviously NO, you don't need pjsip |
| 19:23.18 | onebree | Okay, I am just trying to debug the error message I posted before. |
| 19:23.23 | drmessano | I really don't even understand what you have an issue with.... But it sounds like you already know you're smarter than everyone else, so not sure why you bothered asking. This all could have easily been Googled. |
| 19:24.21 | onebree | drmessano: I have already tried to google the error message, and all I found were dead-end forum posts. |
| 19:24.43 | drmessano | onebree: wasn't even talking to you |
| 19:25.08 | onebree | drmessano: Okay, good. I was wondering what I said made me sound like you described. :-) |
| 19:25.17 | amonk | drmessano: i don't see the need for the chip on the shoulder. and it was googled and googled an googled with ambiguity. anyway, i'm out before you go all crazy one me. seems like you're brewing up a good one for me. EOT |
| 19:25.47 | amonk | onebree: yeah, exactly. but i have "problem". whatev |
| 19:25.49 | amonk | l8r |
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| 19:26.18 | onebree | well then... |
| 19:26.37 | drmessano | Considering he had the chip... |
| 19:26.50 | drmessano | And ragequit |
| 19:27.03 | drmessano | I get 20 XP |
| 19:27.36 | onebree | Achievement unlocked: being a good sport |
| 19:29.24 | drmessano | Of all the college educated folks I have ever spoken with online, none have ever gone 12th grade Lit on me to prove a point. So when someone does, it's pretty much a troll. |
| 19:29.30 | drmessano | And or a teenager |
| 19:29.44 | drmessano | So at that point, Conversation: DEGRADED |
| 19:29.58 | onebree | A teenager working with asterisk? I would be greatly impressed. |
| 19:30.10 | drmessano | Don't be |
| 19:30.17 | drmessano | Happens all the time |
| 19:30.45 | onebree | Really? Why would a teenager look into asterisk? |
| 19:31.10 | drmessano | A toy? Fun phone stuff to talk to their gamer buddies? |
| 19:31.27 | onebree | Hmm, that does sound interesting. |
| 19:31.45 | drmessano | A lot of people make a hobby out of Asterisk. I did |
| 19:32.00 | drmessano | It's my hobby and also part of my job |
| 19:32.15 | drmessano | Lots of young and old hobbyists play with it |
| 19:32.35 | onebree | I worked with it a little over the summer. I started again this month, when assigned to use Asterisk with WebRTC for video conferences |
| 19:33.08 | onebree | Both cases, for my job. |
| 19:33.19 | drmessano | I used Asterisk for 4 years before I deployed a system that was used in a professional environment |
| 19:33.54 | onebree | I find asterisk very interesting, but some of it is difficult to understand. I need to learn more about networking things like ICE, STUN, etc. |
| 19:34.31 | drmessano | Asterisk makes my coffee |
| 19:34.59 | onebree | Really? You have an IoT coffee maker? |
| 19:35.12 | drmessano | X10. |
| 19:35.34 | drmessano | It's easy as can be |
| 19:35.52 | drmessano | Dial plan, system() call, few x10 modules |
| 19:35.54 | onebree | How does asterisk help to make coffee? Like, does it trigger a call or something? |
| 19:36.11 | drmessano | I dial an extension, it turns it on |
| 19:36.26 | onebree | That is really awesome! |
| 19:37.00 | onebree | I am interested in automation myself, but do not know what I would automate. I would also want to use Ruby, since it's what I program in for work, and am most comfortable with |
| 19:37.01 | drmessano | Actually, it starts a shell script that turns it on for 20 minutes, then off |
| 19:37.41 | drmessano | Enough to get a cup and not burn the place down when I forget |
| 19:37.46 | onebree | Okay, that seems more realistic... Either way, using asterisk for that is still cool. You could text "coffee" to a number and turn it on! |
| 19:38.14 | onebree | What kind of coffee maker do you have to be able to program it>? |
| 19:38.51 | drmessano | It's not programmable. It's a $20 Walmart coffee maker, and this is important, with a ROCKER switch |
| 19:39.03 | drmessano | So it stays ON and the X10 switches it |
| 19:40.31 | onebree | Why does it need a rocker switch |
| 19:40.46 | drmessano | Because it has to stay on |
| 19:41.03 | onebree | Oh, okay. |
| 19:41.10 | drmessano | The X10 is an external module. It plugs between the wall and coffee maker |
| 19:41.20 | onebree | I see now :-) |
| 19:41.21 | drmessano | If it's not ON, then I can't make coffee |
| 19:41.48 | onebree | I can't think of anything nearly that interesting that I've programmed... |
| 19:42.42 | drmessano | My Xmas lights are all on X10. I love being able to write lighting schedules with Bash scripts |
| 19:44.37 | onebree | Have you seen adventofcode? One of the puzzles is about lights, and people have actually visualized the outcome. |
| 19:44.44 | onebree | adventofcode.com |
| 19:45.38 | onebree | IDK if Asterisk could handle many of the puzzles on the site. They involve math, some recursion, etc. |
| 19:47.46 | [TK]D-Fender | heads home for the holidays |
| 19:48.43 | drmessano | That's pretty awesome |
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| 19:51.30 | onebree | All puzzles will still be available after the holidays :-) |
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| 19:59.24 | drmessano | I'll have to try them |
| 19:59.56 | drmessano | My eyes are crossed enough trying to IRC in the car |
| 20:00.52 | Ellenor | drmessano: LOL |
| 20:01.23 | drmessano | I'm not driving. Lol |
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