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| 02:14.45 | rubio | Hi there!!! can someone help me with a dialplan in order to join all the parked calls on one bridge ? (the idea is a call b, b park a and then call c, b park c, b hangup so then a and c are bridged) THANKS. |
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| 02:31.55 | WIMPy | That's just an attended transfer. |
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| 02:43.33 | rubio | as far i research with the client i'm using that's imposible (sip.js will only support unattended transfers) |
| 02:44.10 | WIMPy | Then yu should find another. |
| 02:44.17 | rubio | :D |
| 02:44.40 | rubio | can you suggest me a webrtc client that support attended transfer? |
| 02:45.14 | WIMPy | no |
| 02:46.24 | rubio | ok.... but you think it's not possible to make a dialplan to join on a single bridge all the parked calls arround? |
| 02:47.38 | WIMPy | You'd somehow have to store As channel so you can use it with the Bridge Application. |
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| 02:47.54 | WIMPy | The catch is that you need to execute that on Cs channel. |
| 02:49.41 | rubio | so you say that if i ask asterisk to bridge channel A from channel C there is no need to "un park" the call, bridge will take control it self? |
| 02:50.07 | WIMPy | yes |
| 02:50.30 | rubio | nice to know... |
| 02:51.14 | WIMPy | Bridge() os good for soe magic :-) |
| 02:51.19 | WIMPy | is |
| 02:51.32 | rubio | there is any way to ask bridge to join multiple channels? like on chan B execute: bridge (chanA + chanB) ? |
| 02:51.57 | WIMPy | The calling channel will always be one of them. |
| 02:52.09 | WIMPy | If you want more, you'd have to use ConfBridge. |
| 02:52.26 | WIMPy | Or build your own application with ARI or the classic way. |
| 02:52.36 | WIMPy | Or just get a decent phone app. |
| 02:54.20 | rubio | so bridge only work with 2 channels at once... for more channels together i need confbridge... |
| 02:56.04 | rubio | or i can do something like, on ChanA, bridge ChanB, Then again on ChanA bridge ChanB, then hangup ChanA and B&C remain on bridge? :S |
| 02:56.36 | WIMPy | No. That would replace the 1st bridge. |
| 02:56.57 | WIMPy | But you can (ab)use ChanSpy(). |
| 02:57.21 | rubio | ok, got it... i will check confbridge |
| 02:57.31 | rubio | and then chanspy... |
| 02:57.54 | rubio | thank for the suggestion... :D |
| 03:34.39 | laptopdude90 | Any point in a graphics card in a terminal server? |
| 03:35.01 | laptopdude90 | It's based on the X server/X client |
| 03:35.13 | laptopdude90 | Right now I have a message about "software rendering mode" |
| 03:35.32 | laptopdude90 | It should fix that at the least, but will it help with stuff like 3d modelling |
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| 04:43.23 | wyoung | WIMPy: Do you like snom handsets? |
| 04:45.10 | WIMPy | I never use the handset. |
| 04:45.55 | wyoung | oh, what handsets do you recommend then?> |
| 04:45.57 | wyoung | polycom? |
| 04:46.14 | WIMPy | Are you talking about handsets or phones? |
| 04:46.27 | wyoung | arn't they the same thing? |
| 04:47.00 | WIMPy | The handset is the detachable thing you listen and talk to. |
| 04:47.14 | wyoung | ah, ok , I was refering to the entire unit :) |
| 04:47.22 | drmessano | "Endpoint" |
| 04:47.27 | drmessano | "Phone" |
| 04:47.32 | drmessano | Not "Handset" |
| 04:47.34 | wyoung | s/handset/phone/ |
| 04:47.38 | wyoung | done |
| 04:47.38 | WIMPy | I don't know the new Snoms, but I like the old ones, yes. |
| 04:47.41 | drmessano | Endpoint |
| 04:47.58 | WIMPy | Terminal |
| 04:48.04 | drmessano | That too |
| 04:48.05 | wyoung | old ones as in the 300 series? or the 700 series? (the new series is D700 and D800) |
| 04:48.11 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:48.17 | WIMPy | 3xx |
| 04:48.31 | drmessano | The old Snoms were awesome |
| 04:48.33 | wyoung | ah yeah, I have a 300 on my wall |
| 04:48.41 | WIMPy | Preferrable the 360. |
| 04:48.46 | wyoung | the D715's aren't bad, for entry level |
| 04:48.48 | LiuYan | Hi, when playing music-oh-hold in Dial() application, how can I see which file is playing to to caller? |
| 04:49.05 | LiuYan | in asterisk console |
| 04:49.09 | drmessano | They look like they should have "Designed for the EuroAsian Industrial Complex" |
| 04:49.27 | wyoung | heh |
| 04:49.29 | WIMPy | LiuYan: Might happen if you seth some higher debug. |
| 04:49.34 | wyoung | well they are German built ;) |
| 04:49.48 | WIMPy | Degigned |
| 04:49.53 | WIMPy | Designed |
| 04:49.55 | wyoung | How do they compare with the digium phones? |
| 04:50.06 | drmessano | Like I feel like my name should be Dieter or Helmut if I use a Snom |
| 04:50.07 | drmessano | Which is cool |
| 04:50.09 | wyoung | yes, designed, probably built in china |
| 04:50.31 | WIMPy | Depends on what you want to do. |
| 04:50.42 | LiuYan | WIMPy: let me try more 'v'... currently i'm using -vvv. |
| 04:50.57 | drmessano | ~morecowbell |
| 04:51.12 | WIMPy | The cal handling on the Digium ones is really goo IF (and only IF!) you only use one account. |
| 04:51.14 | WIMPy | LiuYan -d |
| 04:51.20 | wyoung | any way, I Just got a bunch of D715 for an office. They seem good, 1Gbit switch, HD audio, 2x usb slots, supports wifi dongles and an extension console |
| 04:51.35 | wyoung | WIMPy: ah ok |
| 04:51.43 | wyoung | so you can't have multiple identities/ |
| 04:52.22 | WIMPy | You can, but then the call handling becomes similarly shitty as on the Cisco/Linksys SPA. |
| 04:52.53 | WIMPy | And the UI of the Digium is a liite unique. |
| 04:53.22 | WIMPy | I'm not saying it's bad, but if you also use otherphones, switching from their concept to any oter is a little annoying. |
| 04:53.29 | WIMPy | little |
| 04:54.19 | WIMPy | But there's no reason you can't get used to it like you get used to anything else. |
| 05:01.00 | LiuYan | WIMPy: just tried `asterisk -rgcvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvddddddddddddddddddddT`, still can't see which moh file is playing |
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| 05:04.14 | WIMPy | Hmm. Looks like the onformation isn't available then. |
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| 09:27.28 | juned | Hii All |
| 09:28.07 | juned | I am using Asterisk Manager to Originate the call |
| 09:28.39 | juned | but how to check call status whether its answered or rejected ? |
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| 09:34.15 | Apocryphal | You can listen for the DialEnd event on AMI |
| 09:34.22 | Apocryphal | It'll contain information on how the Dail ended |
| 09:38.14 | Apocryphal | juned: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+13+ManagerEvent_DialEnd |
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| 10:10.28 | juned | Apocryphal: Hi |
| 10:10.42 | juned | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Manager+API+Action+Originate |
| 10:10.45 | juned | I got this |
| 10:10.55 | juned | Using Async leads to an OriginateResponse event which contains the failure reason if any. Reason may be one of the following: |
| 10:11.12 | juned | Problem is how do i get those reponse in php code |
| 10:11.24 | Apocryphal | Originate, as far as I know, still requires you to dispatch the channel into a context for both legs, which then does a Dial |
| 10:11.35 | Apocryphal | At least that's how I've had to use it |
| 10:12.08 | Apocryphal | OriginateResponse only tells you how the originate itself got handled - not how any dialing goes |
| 10:12.38 | juned | But as per that link it says |
| 10:12.38 | juned | 0 = no such extension or number. Also bad dial tech ie. name of a sip trunk that deosn't exist |
| 10:12.39 | juned | 1 = no answer |
| 10:12.39 | juned | 4 = answered |
| 10:12.39 | juned | 5 = busy |
| 10:12.59 | juned | so if this is really true then i dont need anything else |
| 10:13.50 | Apocryphal | Okay, well I've never managed to feed a dialstring into Originate and have it dial anything. I've always had to throw it a bunch of whatever@somecontext stuff, and then do a dial from those contexts to make it do anything |
| 10:14.05 | Apocryphal | But that might just be me not having enough originate jutsu |
| 10:14.51 | Apocryphal | https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+13+ManagerEvent_OriginateResponse |
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| 10:28.19 | juned | Let me check that link |
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| 10:47.40 | juned | Apocryphal: How do i override ${CDR(disposition)} value |
| 10:47.51 | juned | if i want set some custom value |
| 10:47.58 | juned | to* |
| 10:51.03 | juned | exten => s,n,Set(CDR(disposition)=SOMEVALUE) |
| 10:51.11 | juned | I think i cam do like this |
| 10:51.15 | juned | can* |
| 10:52.50 | juned | ast_cdr_setvar: Attempt to set the 'disposition' read-only variable! |
| 10:52.52 | juned | :( |
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| 13:13.30 | rubio | Hi again... can someone help me with dynamic parking lots? |
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| 13:15.10 | paraxor | rubio: I like to play a game called 'guess the channel'. your message really threw me off. I thought maybe I joined a traffic engineering channel. |
| 13:16.14 | rubio | sorry paraxor, you'r right about this :S my issue here is that i'm not sure also how to describe this, i was thinking about this in the meantime... |
| 13:16.48 | paraxor | :) |
| 13:16.54 | WIMPy | Maybe you should think about why you want to do that in the first place. |
| 13:17.32 | rubio | WIMPy, i think you already know me... LOL |
| 13:18.57 | WIMPy | No need to use parking. |
| 13:20.05 | rubio | so i still working on transfer/bridge/parking issue... i'm trying to park several calls and know where the parks are (witch lots) in order to retrieve the proper one... so i'm trying to do something like: |
| 13:20.06 | rubio | exten => _[P]X.,1,Set(PARKINGDYNEXTEN=${EXTEN:1}) |
| 13:20.06 | rubio | exten => _[P]X.,n,Park() |
| 13:20.06 | rubio | so operator 99 on call 10 will make a blind transfer to P99910 in order to park the call |
| 13:20.30 | rubio | and the same for operator 999 call 11 => P99911 |
| 13:20.57 | WIMPy | That won't help you. You need the channels name. |
| 13:21.26 | rubio | to retrieve the proper call from parking? |
| 13:21.31 | WIMPy | So you can transfer the calle anywhere, like an extenson that plays MOH or some other file. |
| 13:21.57 | WIMPy | You don't want to retrieve the call, or do you? |
| 13:22.26 | rubio | wait, i'm fighting with parking now as the operator can't retrieve the parking calls on different order... |
| 13:22.35 | rubio | yes i want some times... |
| 13:22.57 | rubio | in different order that they where parked also.. |
| 13:23.18 | WIMPy | You really need a decent phone. |
| 13:23.26 | rubio | LOL LOL |
| 13:24.11 | WIMPy | Sounds like you're trying to emulate somone shifting gears on a big loud box full of relais. |
| 13:24.47 | WIMPy | But then you're not the first.. |
| 13:25.02 | rubio | that's good to know :) |
| 13:25.13 | WIMPy | Not really, no. |
| 13:25.26 | rubio | :( |
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| 13:46.37 | dorphalsig | hey everyone |
| 13:46.44 | dorphalsig | 'morning. |
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| 14:14.50 | dorphalsig | Hey, if anybody sees this, how can I configure WSS in asterisk? I've read this https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Secure+Calling+Tutorial and this https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+WebRTC+Support |
| 14:15.35 | dorphalsig | but still, when I try to connect sipml5 to * via WSS (wss://my-ip:8089/ws), I just fail miserably |
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| 14:15.48 | dorphalsig | the port is not even open :/ |
| 14:16.04 | dorphalsig | So, clearly I did not understand :P |
| 14:16.45 | dorphalsig | if any charitable soul wants to help out I'll be here. |
| 14:17.36 | newtonr | Did you try following https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/WebRTC+tutorial+using+SIPML5 ? |
| 14:19.58 | newtonr | Oh i see, none of those pages really mention the TLS options in http.conf. Perhaps that is what you are missing |
| 14:20.17 | dorphalsig | newtonr: Yeah, although that guide only works with WS |
| 14:20.29 | dorphalsig | I think so... |
| 14:21.13 | dorphalsig | The only TLS-related thing I have is this: |
| 14:21.14 | dorphalsig | tlscertfile=/etc/pki/tls/certs/server.cert.pem tlsprivatekey= /etc/pki/tls/private/server.key |
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| 14:21.29 | newtonr | in http.conf? |
| 14:21.31 | newtonr | you also need |
| 14:21.33 | newtonr | ;tlsenable=yes ; enable tls - default no. |
| 14:21.33 | newtonr | ;tlsbindaddr=0.0.0.0:8089 ; address and port to bind to - default is bindaddr and port 8089. |
| 14:21.48 | newtonr | check out the sample https://github.com/asterisk/asterisk/blob/master/configs/samples/http.conf.sample |
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| 14:32.58 | dorphalsig | Hrmmm... something happened there. |
| 14:33.31 | dorphalsig | newtonr: nope, that did not do the trick either. Should I specify the port even if I want to go with 8089? |
| 14:35.11 | newtonr | it should open up 8089 by default if it is enabled |
| 14:35.19 | newtonr | but you might try specifying it too just in case there is a bug |
| 14:36.32 | newtonr | after you try again, pastebin your http.conf configuration (sanitize any public IPs of course) |
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| 14:39.09 | dorphalsig | newtonr: http://pastebin.ca/3263115 |
| 14:42.11 | newtonr | well for one you have a missing [ and a missing 9 |
| 14:44.02 | newtonr | If you are actually missing the open bracket in the config file that will probably prevent the configuration from loading |
| 14:44.43 | newtonr | You also have tlsbindaddr=0.0.0.0:808 |
| 14:46.24 | dorphalsig | yeah, I messed up the port. I just saw it as well. |
| 14:46.43 | dorphalsig | lemme try and fix it (the missing bracket is just I'm dumb and I dont know how to copy properly :P) |
| 14:47.00 | newtonr | :D |
| 14:49.28 | dorphalsig | Well, I just fixed the typos |
| 14:49.33 | dorphalsig | and still nothing :( |
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| 14:50.55 | newtonr | pastebin the output of "http show status" |
| 14:51.09 | dorphalsig | this is what I have now |
| 14:51.10 | dorphalsig | http://pastebin.ca/3263139 |
| 14:51.10 | newtonr | and "core show settings" |
| 14:52.24 | dorphalsig | http://pastebin.ca/3263140 |
| 14:53.43 | newtonr | Cool and "http show status" |
| 14:55.06 | dorphalsig | http://pastebin.ca/3263146 |
| 15:00.04 | dorphalsig | newtonr: the fact that my generated ssl certificates have a different "common name" than where I'm running, can that have something to do with this? (I don't think so, but...) |
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| 15:04.22 | newtonr | I dunno |
| 15:04.52 | newtonr | Well, I don't think the http show status command shows anything about the TLS setting unfortunately |
| 15:05.52 | newtonr | file a bug on issues.asterisk.org/jira - if anything we need better documentation showing how to get it setup and troubleshoot it |
| 15:08.20 | dorphalsig | I think I need an account? |
| 15:08.24 | newtonr | In the meantime someone who uses WSS may respond and tell us what is wrong |
| 15:08.39 | newtonr | Yup the main page tells you where to go to signup |
| 15:08.45 | newtonr | signup.asterisk.org |
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| 15:13.18 | dorphalsig | newtonr: what severity? |
| 15:18.07 | newtonr | major is fine. i tried quickly to set it up and I also couldn't get it working. |
| 15:19.02 | newtonr | I may have forgot something since I'm busy with a few other things. I'll look into it later on when I get a chance |
| 15:24.31 | dorphalsig | k thx |
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| 15:27.32 | monsterco | can I have asterisk bind to two different ports? |
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| 15:28.45 | monsterco | Or can I have Asterisk bind to two different IPs <<< that is more desired |
| 15:29.04 | WIMPy | One or all. |
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| 15:34.40 | R1ppa | I finished installing AsteriskNOW iso on a Xenserver VM, no errors, eth0 was not set onboot=yes and I do not see any http services or Asterisk for that matter, install.log just staes all packages installed....any ideas? |
| 15:35.11 | dorphalsig | newtonr: https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-25580 |
| 15:36.50 | R1ppa | err sorry I meant eth0 was set to onboot=no, but no httpd and asterisk install, was there a choice in the install I could have messed up and it didnt install the main packages, doesnt make sense |
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| 15:40.07 | paws | can anyone tell me are these errors http://pastebin.ca/3263216 |
| 15:40.56 | paws | when i am trying to call my phone i get -> rejected because extension not found in context 'internal'. |
| 15:41.48 | R1ppa | why would asterisknow iso not install httpd and asterisk packages? |
| 15:44.00 | MaliutaLap | paws: would need to see the extensions.conf, and the other file containing extensions to know |
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| 15:48.02 | paws | MaliutaLap: extensions.conf: http://pastebin.ca/3263228 |
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| 15:49.33 | MaliutaLap | paws: you need to go and get help from #freepbx if you want to use that |
| 15:50.09 | MaliutaLap | i'm not even going to start to try an unpick it all |
| 15:50.54 | MaliutaLap | asterisk != freepbx |
| 15:54.09 | R1ppa | any ideas guys? the asterisknow iso install went smooth, system started with no httpd and no asterisk, this is on a xenserver the only issue I saw was that the xentools do not see SHMZ as a Linux flavor, easy to avoid rename SHMZ to CentOS temporarily and it allows install but this install is tainted somehow |
| 15:54.20 | paws | okay sorry, thank you |
| 16:03.02 | R1ppa | anyone here have AsteriskNOW running as VM? |
| 16:03.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ~polls |
| 16:03.31 | infobot | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or our army of rabid weasels will hurt you. Usually, people other than those with the exact same set up can help you and those who have sometimes will not be able to help you. Also see <ask> |
| 16:03.31 | igcewieling | A better question migjt be "does anyone here use AsteriskNOW" |
| 16:03.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Lots of people... |
| 16:04.14 | R1ppa | I am going to attempt reinstalling but as I said the iso didnt finish giving me httpd and asterisk, it would be odd to have a choice to not install these things, will have to retry |
| 16:05.51 | R1ppa | oh good ol Fender to come troll your butt |
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| 16:48.19 | R1ppa | for AsteriskNOW install on VM the only thing I can think of is that because it needs internet right away it fails to run the freepbx updates required after the install, obviously some tweaks needed to get this into VM |
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| 16:57.40 | igcewieling | PHP-AGI does not seem to be listed here https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/AMI+Libraries+and+Frameworks |
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| 18:47.34 | craigify | Haaaaay asterisk lovers. Or haters. |
| 18:53.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Indifferent Lives Matter!!! |
| 18:54.20 | coppice | really? |
| 19:01.37 | infinity1 | lol |
| 19:02.03 | infinity1 | what color are these lover/haters. we must know so we can sterotype accordingly. |
| 19:08.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Non-monochrome Lives Matter!!! |
| 19:09.34 | igcewieling | All the other stuff going on in the world and now I find out Windows 1.0 was released 30 years ago today. Truly a sad day in technology. |
| 19:10.20 | monsterco | WIMPy - not sure what you mean by one or all? Can I have Asterisk bind to muliple public ip addresses? |
| 19:11.17 | igcewieling | monsterco: put 0.0.0.0 in your binding statements in sip.conf and Asterisk will listen on all interfaces. |
| 19:11.38 | [TK]D-Fender | One or all. That is all you have |
| 19:11.46 | monsterco | I need to set Externalip=x.x.x.x as public IP is not set on the virtual container |
| 19:11.56 | monsterco | Can I set multiple external IPs? |
| 19:12.03 | igcewieling | monsterco: no. |
| 19:12.26 | monsterco | this bind to 0.0.0.0 won't help me |
| 19:12.33 | igcewieling | monsterco: externip has nothing to do with what IPs asterisk listens on |
| 19:12.35 | monsterco | can I have Asterisk listen to multiple ports? |
| 19:12.39 | igcewieling | monsterco: no. |
| 19:13.02 | igcewieling | It might be possible in Asterisk 13 with PJSIP, but I don't know. |
| 19:13.08 | monsterco | igcewieling - it does in a sense that the provider authenticates me by IP so they won't let me make calls out or respond to their handshake from another ip |
| 19:14.03 | igcewieling | monsterco: that should work by default unless you have some crazy routing on your network. |
| 19:15.47 | igcewieling | monsterco: out of more than 70 Asterisk boxes I've never had to bind to specific interfaces or IPs. |
| 19:16.06 | igcewieling | externip (not externalip) needs to be set, of course. |
| 19:16.19 | igcewieling | That is only when NAT in involved, of course. |
| 19:16.50 | monsterco | NAT is involved in this case and provider, for billing purposes, needs to send to different IP or port |
| 19:17.00 | igcewieling | monsterco: send or receive? |
| 19:17.04 | monsterco | both ways |
| 19:17.18 | igcewieling | ah, yes that makes stuff horribly complicated. |
| 19:17.22 | monsterco | to them a separate port and same IP as if it's a different server |
| 19:17.40 | igcewieling | you can do this if you put Kamailio infront of Asterisk. |
| 19:17.50 | monsterco | so their work around is make your Asterisk server listen to another port at the same or have a 2nd IP assigned to it |
| 19:18.03 | monsterco | I hate kamailio :) too much |
| 19:18.10 | igcewieling | monsterco: not much of a workaround if it doesn't work. |
| 19:18.22 | igcewieling | monsterco: me too, but you need it if you want to do complicated SIP stuff. |
| 19:18.22 | monsterco | thanks for the input |
| 19:18.43 | monsterco | yep, i gotta find a work around or make a new server...might be easier |
| 19:19.06 | igcewieling | monsterco: Like I said, there might be a workaround in Asterisk 13 with PJSIP |
| 19:19.18 | igcewieling | monsterco: you could switch to a non-moron provider? |
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| 20:22.31 | laptopdude90 | why are wall plates so expensive |
| 20:23.01 | mub | laptopdude90: We use cardboard covered in black ink |
| 20:23.15 | robmal | Stolen from our neighbours. |
| 20:24.53 | laptopdude90 | wheres the best place to buy them? |
| 20:25.09 | robmal | Amazon? |
| 20:25.22 | robmal | WTF is a wall plate? |
| 20:25.37 | laptopdude90 | A piece of plastic with holes for stuf.. |
| 20:25.45 | laptopdude90 | what do you use? |
| 20:26.01 | WIMPy | They are used if you can't afford a table so you can eat off the wall. |
| 20:26.33 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: I buy from Jaycar, or another local electrical supplier |
| 20:27.16 | MaliutaLap | WIMPy: I'm gonna steal that one |
| 20:27.20 | laptopdude90 | me too |
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| 20:27.57 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: do you just need the face plates? or the krone ports too? |
| 20:28.33 | WIMPy | wonders wo these two fit together. |
| 20:28.35 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: also there are like three different kinds |
| 20:28.43 | octo675 | Hi all, im studing for dcap exam any recomendation for practical exam? thanks |
| 20:28.57 | laptopdude90 | I just want to mount like all m'ethernet ports D: |
| 20:29.28 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: so you need krone ports too |
| 20:29.46 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: cat5, or cat6? how many ports per plate? |
| 20:29.56 | robmal | WIMPy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_plate It looks like it has free spaces for plates, you were correct. |
| 20:30.16 | laptopdude90 | I just want an empty plate with room for 8 jacks |
| 20:30.21 | laptopdude90 | No jacks |
| 20:30.23 | laptopdude90 | Just empty holes |
| 20:30.42 | robmal | You need a piece of plastic with 8 holes. |
| 20:30.47 | MaliutaLap | eight??? they are gonna be expensive |
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| 20:31.10 | robmal | I've never seen one with more than 2 :-/ |
| 20:31.15 | laptopdude90 | I've seen them with 12 |
| 20:31.22 | MaliutaLap | I've used 4 ports |
| 20:31.24 | laptopdude90 | http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Keystone-Jack-Cat5e-Green-Network-Ethernet-110-Punchdown-8P8C-Lot-Pack-NEW-/390857997412?hash=item5b00f3bc64:g:~egAAOSwYHxWOrf0 |
| 20:31.25 | laptopdude90 | good price? |
| 20:31.48 | MaliutaLap | bit expensive to do a 24 port house. |
| 20:31.50 | laptopdude90 | ignore that |
| 20:31.52 | laptopdude90 | wrong link |
| 20:32.06 | robmal | Ah, US of A. You've got everything bigger. |
| 20:32.19 | laptopdude90 | C A of Nada |
| 20:32.32 | robmal | Imported ;-) |
| 20:32.37 | laptopdude90 | Does the jack have to be rated for CAT5E? |
| 20:32.43 | robmal | Yes. |
| 20:32.46 | laptopdude90 | b/c they have cat 5 jacks |
| 20:32.47 | laptopdude90 | aww |
| 20:32.55 | MaliutaLap | well keytones fit into a different kind of wall plate |
| 20:33.41 | MaliutaLap | cat6 wires are thicker, don't fit in cat5e ports |
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| 20:33.54 | laptopdude90 | I'm not using cat6... |
| 20:34.06 | MaliutaLap | at 12 per plate I'd just put a damn patch panel in the wall |
| 20:34.23 | laptopdude90 | I don't need a 12 port plate... |
| 20:34.42 | WIMPy | There are 8 port patch panels as well. |
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| 20:35.03 | robmal | laptopdude90: Do you really need a wall plate at all? |
| 20:35.06 | laptopdude90 | yes. |
| 20:35.20 | robmal | Ok, so there are none >4 ports. |
| 20:35.30 | laptopdude90 | yes there are |
| 20:35.34 | laptopdude90 | I've seen them |
| 20:35.34 | MaliutaLap | robmal: you're on drugs |
| 20:36.08 | robmal | Damn, i'm not, what are you selling? |
| 20:36.28 | MaliutaLap | robmal: http://www.jaycar.com.au/Sight-%26-Sound---Home/Home-Theatre-Hardware/Other-Home-Theatre-Hardware/Keystone-Wall-Plate-6-Way/p/YN8058 |
| 20:36.37 | laptopdude90 | $37 CAD for 50 jacks. Good deal? |
| 20:36.45 | robmal | Ok. |
| 20:36.49 | laptopdude90 | awwwww it's in hong kong |
| 20:36.52 | robmal | s/none >4/none >6/ |
| 20:38.24 | octo675 | Hi all, im studing for dcap exam any recomendation for practical exam? thanks |
| 20:38.44 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: I probably wouldn't use them |
| 20:38.56 | laptopdude90 | why |
| 20:39.14 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: I found it's better to spend a bit more on the jacks - less failures that way |
| 20:39.30 | laptopdude90 | Do jacks really fail often |
| 20:39.31 | robmal | What?! |
| 20:39.49 | robmal | octo675: They say read the book. I'd say - stay here for a while. |
| 20:40.58 | octo675 | did you pass dcap ? |
| 20:41.00 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: when I did that 24 port install I ended up going through about 40 jacks |
| 20:41.32 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: and then I bought some decent ones from an electrical wholesaler |
| 20:41.47 | laptopdude90 | then where should I buy them from? |
| 20:42.04 | robmal | octo675: No and before now i didn't even know it existed :-) |
| 20:42.09 | lvlinux | I've seen up to 6 on a plate before. |
| 20:42.55 | lvlinux | I thought all * people knew about DCAP. I'd like to take it someday when I have time to study for it... |
| 20:43.40 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: I use Haymans - but I don't think you want a supplier in QLD, Australia |
| 20:44.00 | octo675 | xD |
| 20:44.00 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: find an electrical wholesaler near you - google is your friend |
| 20:44.11 | laptopdude90 | kek |
| 20:44.15 | igcewieling | There are large parts of Asterisk you might not encounter in your Asterisk install. |
| 20:45.02 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: krone if you can, but there are other brands that are just as good (here in Australia there is one called Clipsal) |
| 20:46.00 | laptopdude90 | https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.6-port-wall-plate-white-5-pk.1000746091.html |
| 20:49.02 | lvlinux | that's what I was talking about ^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 20:49.32 | lvlinux | laptopdude90: u got ur phones yet? |
| 20:49.34 | laptopdude90 | wonderful |
| 20:49.53 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: will work, bit expensive. Local electrical store does decent ones for $2.90 |
| 20:50.01 | laptopdude90 | remember, it's CAD |
| 20:50.09 | laptopdude90 | And it's a pack of 5. |
| 20:50.15 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: which is about the same as $AU |
| 20:50.24 | MaliutaLap | oh, for 5 that's not bad |
| 20:51.23 | laptopdude90 | http://canada.newark.com/pro-signal/ffk24mt/panel-24-port-rj45/dp/45X4085 |
| 20:52.07 | laptopdude90 | actually, http://canada.newark.com/belden/ax101456/flex-patch-panel-24port-1u/dp/28W2492 |
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| 20:54.09 | MaliutaLap | looks about right |
| 20:57.52 | laptopdude90 | http://canada.newark.com/mcm/831-2526/6-keystone-jack-white-punch/dp/61T4338 |
| 20:57.59 | laptopdude90 | how about that? |
| 20:58.23 | lvlinux | laptopdude90: u get ur phones yet? |
| 20:59.08 | laptopdude90 | not yet |
| 20:59.13 | lvlinux | k |
| 21:03.06 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: you using cat6, or cat5e |
| 21:04.45 | laptopdude90 | cat5e |
| 21:10.14 | MaliutaLap | then don't buy cat6 jacks, they won't work properly |
| 21:10.37 | robmal | o_O |
| 21:10.42 | robmal | Dude. |
| 21:10.45 | laptopdude90 | ^^^^ |
| 21:10.53 | robmal | If i'm on drugs you went apeshit crazy. |
| 21:11.13 | MaliutaLap | cat5e cables into cat6 jacks (on the backend) is bad |
| 21:11.29 | lvlinux | MaliutaLap: how is that? |
| 21:11.39 | lvlinux | MaliutaLap: sounds like hooey |
| 21:11.40 | MaliutaLap | note that there is a physical difference in the width of cat6 wires |
| 21:12.00 | lvlinux | but the 110 connection points are variable |
| 21:12.29 | lvlinux | in their width I mean |
| 21:13.23 | robmal | http://www.diffen.com/difference/Cat5e_vs_Cat6 |
| 21:13.28 | robmal | He is, indeed, right! |
| 21:14.47 | lvlinux | yes I know the wires are heavier guage for cat6, but the 110 block connection points don't care as long as they can bite on the conductor |
| 21:15.42 | robmal | But they might not bite into the wire! |
| 21:15.58 | robmal | Which is especially important when using crone. |
| 21:16.00 | robmal | krone* |
| 21:16.08 | robmal | You might not make them bite. |
| 21:17.34 | lvlinux | ehh, i doubt in real-world situations that it would make much diff. May have to press a bit harder to force them in but I would think it would still bite fine, possibly even better. |
| 21:17.51 | robmal | But seriously, i've ran 1gbps with only 6 wires working on short distances. I think my rj45s love me. |
| 21:18.04 | lvlinux | on the other hand, I've never used cat6 jacks or cable :-) |
| 21:18.12 | lvlinux | so i could be wrong |
| 21:18.30 | robmal | It'll work <30m on 6 wires, cat 5e cable. |
| 21:19.03 | robmal | But i might be using premium grade hifi wire and jacks, just to prove MaliutaLap wrong. |
| 21:19.13 | robmal | Or he might be an idiot. |
| 21:20.36 | lvlinux | On the other other hand, the spec for cat5e says it can use up to 22 awg cable, which is THICKER than most cat6. |
| 21:20.47 | robmal | Oh noes! |
| 21:20.56 | lvlinux | I've never seen it with 22, but I've seen it with probably 23 |
| 21:21.46 | robmal | Polycom sends 23 with their phones. |
| 21:23.32 | MaliutaLap | robmal: I'm not just talking from my own experience - but from the experience of people that use cat5/6 cable to do A/V installs |
| 21:23.38 | MaliutaLap | and lots of them |
| 21:23.58 | lvlinux | well most cat5/5e is 24-25 |
| 21:24.08 | lvlinux | and most cat6 is 23 |
| 21:24.45 | laptopdude90 | http://www.ebay.ca/itm/50-Pcs-lot-Keystone-Jack-CAT5e-White-Network-Ethernet-110-Punchdown-8P8C-RJ45-/262117282581?hash=item3d07685315:g:c0kAAOSw9mFWMhP2 |
| 21:28.22 | robmal | laptopdude90: Buy them cheap, just punch them correctly. |
| 21:28.41 | laptopdude90 | the one I linked is the cheapest I could find |
| 21:28.48 | robmal | MaliutaLap: No problem, when i'm in sales mode i too tend to bend reality. |
| 21:28.50 | laptopdude90 | W/o ordering overseas |
| 21:28.55 | robmal | laptopdude90: Buy. |
| 21:29.09 | laptopdude90 | k.. |
| 21:29.19 | laptopdude90 | what, did you think I was just going to stare at the ad |
| 21:29.22 | robmal | But you've got a krone knife, right? |
| 21:30.56 | MaliutaLap | I love my krone punch tool |
| 21:33.06 | laptopdude90 | Whenever I terminate ethernet, some of the wires inside don't reach the end |
| 21:34.10 | robmal | Shitty krone or poor technique. Watch youtube. |
| 21:34.13 | MaliutaLap | that's just poor technique |
| 21:34.19 | laptopdude90 | yes I am aware |
| 21:34.22 | laptopdude90 | But how do I fix it |
| 21:34.28 | robmal | Watch youtube. |
| 21:34.32 | laptopdude90 | Also, the wires cross over each other inside of the cable and it looks ugly |
| 21:34.33 | laptopdude90 | I did. |
| 21:34.39 | robmal | Watch more youtube. |
| 21:34.46 | laptopdude90 | I watched like 10 videos. |
| 21:34.48 | MaliutaLap | first don't crimp a cable until you've verified all the wires are in the right place |
| 21:34.53 | robmal | Meh. |
| 21:35.05 | laptopdude90 | Can you recommend me a good video? |
| 21:35.20 | MaliutaLap | if they are not lining up then pull them out and trim a small amount off the end to make them level |
| 21:35.31 | MaliutaLap | rinse, repeat |
| 21:35.48 | laptopdude90 | yes I do that |
| 21:35.54 | laptopdude90 | When I push them back in the wire just goes down more |
| 21:36.34 | MaliutaLap | you can visually verify that a wire has a) reached the end of the the port |
| 21:36.36 | robmal | Could you post a pic of your krone tool? |
| 21:36.41 | lvlinux | laptopdude90: it's an art and a science. You have to really think about it when you're doing it. |
| 21:36.58 | laptopdude90 | yeah I spend like 20 minutes on the termiantion |
| 21:37.42 | MaliutaLap | 20 minutes? I can do like 12 patch cables in that time - both ends |
| 21:37.50 | robmal | still wants to see the tool your using |
| 21:37.51 | lvlinux | wow ur fast |
| 21:38.10 | MaliutaLap | lvlinux: I get in a groove |
| 21:38.14 | lvlinux | probably takes me 1.5-2 minutes per connector |
| 21:38.39 | MaliutaLap | it's just rhythm in the end |
| 21:38.44 | MaliutaLap | and focus |
| 21:38.47 | lvlinux | yep |
| 21:39.19 | MaliutaLap | probably start at about 2mins, and then end up faster |
| 21:39.20 | tacky | Hi. Can and would someone call ISN number 8649*1917 to verify incoming calls for me (cite: freenum.org). TIA |
| 21:40.33 | lvlinux | tacky: I called it but it looks like you didn't offer any codecs so the call failed |
| 21:40.35 | tacky | Thanks, Ruel. That was FAST! :D |
| 21:40.43 | lvlinux | :-) |
| 21:41.14 | tacky | lvlinux: It rang but I must have a bug. Will dig. |
| 21:41.34 | laptopdude90 | should I get modular jacks? |
| 21:41.42 | tacky | lvlinux: should be codecs. hmm |
| 21:41.55 | robmal | laptopdude90: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkEpWKQn1e8 This guy does is right. |
| 21:42.25 | laptopdude90 | no no no |
| 21:42.26 | robmal | Well, right-ish. |
| 21:42.28 | laptopdude90 | Not one of them. |
| 21:42.32 | laptopdude90 | The plug |
| 21:42.34 | laptopdude90 | Not the jack |
| 21:42.38 | robmal | Oooh. |
| 21:42.47 | robmal | But that's like 15s. |
| 21:43.01 | laptopdude90 | I can do the jacks in like 30s |
| 21:43.05 | robmal | So? |
| 21:43.12 | laptopdude90 | the plugs is the problem |
| 21:43.18 | robmal | No it isn't. |
| 21:43.22 | laptopdude90 | um yes it is |
| 21:43.31 | robmal | Could you make a video? |
| 21:43.35 | tacky | lvlinux: Ah, here's the prob... [Nov 20 13:39:54] WARNING[1009780][C-00000013]: dsp.c:1484 ast_dsp_process: Inband DTMF is not supported on codec ilbc. Use RFC2833 |
| 21:43.37 | robmal | I promise i won't laugh. |
| 21:43.44 | robmal | We all were young at some point. |
| 21:43.47 | lvlinux | tacky: maybe |
| 21:43.48 | laptopdude90 | I'm good |
| 21:43.54 | laptopdude90 | could it be the jack? |
| 21:43.57 | laptopdude90 | plug* |
| 21:43.57 | robmal | No. |
| 21:44.05 | laptopdude90 | I got a package of 100 for $5 on amazon |
| 21:44.27 | laptopdude90 | are modular jacks better? |
| 21:44.30 | laptopdude90 | plugs |
| 21:44.37 | lvlinux | tacky: but I suspect that's not it actually |
| 21:45.10 | robmal | laptopdude90: I seem to have lost you. You've got a problem with making correct a) plugs b) wall jacks ? |
| 21:45.16 | tacky | lvlinux: hmm. digging. |
| 21:45.57 | lvlinux | tacky: let me turn debug on my side and try again so can see exactly what response I'm getting. |
| 21:47.06 | laptopdude90 | guyz? |
| 21:47.12 | tacky | lvlinux: i have 'dtmfmode=auto' which should prefer rfc2833, so i would have thought that's what was used. |
| 21:47.27 | lvlinux | hmmm |
| 21:47.30 | lvlinux | laptopdude90: what? |
| 21:47.44 | laptopdude90 | I still have my ethernet termination problems |
| 21:48.02 | robmal | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7H8OoKA4F8 This. |
| 21:48.10 | lvlinux | laptopdude90: patience young paduan :-) |
| 21:48.39 | robmal | This movie is great. I wish i'd seen it years ago. |
| 21:49.11 | MaliutaLap | laptopdude90: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lullzS740wI <- bit of a gas bag, but that's done properly |
| 21:49.35 | robmal | Dude, 12 minutes. |
| 21:49.50 | robmal | Mine is 4. And the important part is at 1:55 |
| 21:49.56 | lvlinux | lol |
| 21:50.33 | robmal | lvlinux: Just watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7H8OoKA4F8&feature=youtu.be&t=115 |
| 21:51.03 | robmal | This is the most important part of every rj45 plug. |
| 21:51.42 | MaliutaLap | robmal: that vid is putting me to sleep |
| 21:52.12 | robmal | Me too, so i muted it and played Prodigy :-) |
| 21:52.31 | robmal | Firestarter fitted quite well |
| 21:52.36 | MaliutaLap | also looks like he left the wires short |
| 21:52.42 | robmal | Dude. |
| 21:52.57 | MaliutaLap | I generally want them all the way to the end of the plug |
| 21:53.06 | robmal | We all do. |
| 21:53.09 | MaliutaLap | his are a couple of mm short |
| 21:53.27 | robmal | But life is too short for fixing it every time. |
| 21:54.29 | MaliutaLap | depends on how short they come up - I wouldn't have crimped that one, would have taken just a little more off the casing to fix that one |
| 21:54.48 | MaliutaLap | that length is about failure lenght |
| 21:56.10 | tacky | lvlinux: did you get any useful debug info? i set dtmfmode to rfc2833 explicitly. would you try again, please? |
| 21:56.48 | lvlinux | tacky: I'm checking---got a lot to sift through---tons of options fired when I made the call lol |
| 21:56.49 | robmal | MaliutaLap: https://www.dropbox.com/s/930d0ok0hhrjnuw/2015-11-20%2022_56_14-RJ45%20plug%20on%20UTP%20cable%20-%20Installing%20-%20YouTube.png?dl=0 Which one!? |
| 21:57.03 | tacky | lvlinux: right |
| 22:02.52 | lvlinux | tacky: AH, ok here's what I got: WARNING[2367][C-0000015b]: chan_sip.c:10092 process_sdp: Ignoring audio media offer because port number is zero |
| 22:03.56 | tacky | scratches head |
| 22:04.50 | tacky | lvlinux: i'm too n00b to know that one off the top of my head. :-/ |
| 22:04.51 | lvlinux | your rtpstart and rtpend set correctly in sip.conf? |
| 22:05.06 | lvlinux | i mean rtp.conf sorry |
| 22:05.35 | tacky | lvlinux: heh. i didn't add an rtp.conf yet. |
| 22:05.48 | lvlinux | tacky: lol well that'll do it |
| 22:06.14 | tacky | lvlinux: thanks. i'll address that and get back to you. thanks for the help. |
| 22:06.30 | robmal | lvlinux: Awesome job. Thank you. |
| 22:09.00 | lvlinux | tacky: np |
| 22:10.49 | lvlinux | tacky: lemme know when you get your rtp.conf in and * restarted and I'll call again. |
| 22:11.07 | tacky | tacky: ack |
| 22:11.29 | tacky | s/tacky/lvlinux/ lol |
| 22:11.50 | lvlinux | lol |
| 22:12.55 | tacky | lvlinux: i am surprised that rtp.conf is necessary, so i want to read up on it a bit first. much calling has worked with whatever the defaults are. |
| 22:13.26 | lvlinux | that's odd |
| 22:13.34 | lvlinux | that it worked without it |
| 22:13.34 | tacky | lvlinux: course i never negotiated ilbc with anyone before either. lol |
| 22:14.26 | tacky | lvlinux: i'm unix old and asterisk new, fyi |
| 22:14.57 | lvlinux | :-) |
| 22:16.29 | tacky | lvlinux: and this box is obsd, which has a very trimmed down /etc/asterisk set, not including rtp.conf. I'm perusing /usr/local/share/examples/asterisk/default/rtp.conf now, where asterisk's real default /etc/asterisk files are stored. |
| 22:18.57 | lvlinux | obsd!?! cool |
| 22:19.25 | tacky | lvlinux: yeah, man. i'm old and varied. lol |
| 22:19.34 | lvlinux | tacky: all you need in the file is: |
| 22:19.59 | lvlinux | [general] rtpstart=16000 rtpend=17000 |
| 22:20.13 | lvlinux | each on new line and of course change ur ports to whatever range you want |
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| 22:21.46 | tacky | lvlinux: thanks. maybe i'll just do that then so you can test again and properly satisfy myself later. as it is, i haven't been reading like i should yet. sorry. i'm slow too. lol |
| 22:22.28 | tacky | lvlinux: and i forgot to mention thorough. ;) |
| 22:24.22 | lvlinux | tacky: hmmm, well I just found that the default ports that * uses are 10000-20000 |
| 22:24.33 | lvlinux | tacky: so it's possible that the missing rtp.conf isn't your problem... |
| 22:26.42 | tacky | tacky: hmm. well, port 10000 could be a problem for me. in any case, you can test again now. :) |
| 22:27.05 | tacky | s/tacky/lvlinux/ dam! |
| 22:28.19 | tacky | lvlinux: i'm guessing the problem will still exist. :( |
| 22:29.06 | tacky | lvlinux: assuming so, i'll filter out ilbc for now for another try, if you're willing. |
| 22:31.35 | lvlinux | k gimme sec |
| 22:32.18 | lvlinux | tacky: same :-( |
| 22:32.21 | tacky | lvlinux: thanks. filtering ilbc now |
| 22:32.59 | lvlinux | you don't have a SIP ALG somewhere do you? |
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| 22:34.02 | tacky | lvlinux: too soon. it'd done now. SIP ALG? |
| 22:35.15 | lvlinux | k i'll try again. A SIP ALG is sip filtering software in some routers that wreaks havoc with Asterisk. Might check your router config to see if there's a setting for it. If it's there, disable it. |
| 22:35.23 | tacky | Application-Level Gateway; ah. no |
| 22:36.05 | lvlinux | tacky: hmmm, it didn't disconnect me that time |
| 22:36.14 | lvlinux | but i didn't here anything on my end |
| 22:36.20 | tacky | lvlinux: yeah, but no audio |
| 22:36.21 | lvlinux | s/here/hear/g |
| 22:36.57 | tacky | no audio either way. hmm |
| 22:36.59 | lvlinux | you do a sip debug and pastebin it and let me take a look at it when you have a chance |
| 22:37.12 | lvlinux | what codecs do you have enabled? |
| 22:39.06 | tacky | lvlinux: now that ilbc is gone (which was first), i have speex g729 gsm g722 ulaw alaw, in that order |
| 22:39.29 | tacky | lvlinux: RE: sip debug. okay |
| 22:44.01 | tacky | lvlinux: sip debug is on |
| 22:44.03 | lvlinux | hmm try taking away speex |
| 22:44.14 | tacky | lvlinux: okay |
| 22:44.31 | lvlinux | I've never had much luck with it. Don't know why. (that's so unscientific i know lol) |
| 22:48.24 | igcewieling | tacky: do you have a g729 license? |
| 22:48.28 | tacky | lvlinux: no worries. experience isn't always scientific. speex is gone. sip debug is on. |
| 22:48.54 | tacky | igcewieling: >/dev/null |
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| 22:54.34 | lvlinux | tacky: k i'm back sry got busy there. I'll try now |
| 22:55.23 | lvlinux | no audio |
| 22:55.27 | tacky | lvlinux: no worries. same deal. no hangup. no audio |
| 22:56.24 | lvlinux | tacky: is your asterisk server on the internet directly or behind NAT? |
| 22:57.13 | lvlinux | I should have asked that to begin with... |
| 22:57.45 | tacky | lvlinux: direct. it's on a vps where the provider doesn't support obsd option or pxe install, so i booted bsd.rd via grub from their lousy install of debian and installed from that. lol |
| 22:58.07 | lvlinux | lol |
| 23:00.29 | tacky | lvlinux: anyway, this is a strange issue i have not had before, although my asterisk is not very old (like a couple weeks), but at least you have verified that incoming ISN calls are working. thanks. |
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| 23:02.53 | lvlinux | tacky: no problem. Perhaps [TK]D-Fender or WIMPy can help you diagnose it further (or me when I get some more time) gotta go for now though. |
| 23:03.27 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (~joe@64.235.216.2) |
| 23:05.09 | tacky | lvlinux: right on. of course there was a problem. lol |
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| 23:06.47 | WIMPy | looks around |
| 23:06.50 | igcewieling | tacky: if you enable g729 and don't have the codec your calls won't work if they try using g729 |
| 23:06.51 | WIMPy | What's going on? |
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| 23:07.20 | lvlinux | WIMPy: tacky has no audio and no NAT |
| 23:08.28 | igcewieling | tacky: have you tried disabling g729? |
| 23:08.31 | WIMPy | Sounds like SIP. |
| 23:08.41 | lvlinux | WIMPy: of course! |
| 23:08.55 | tacky | WIMPy: well, i asked for someone to verify my incoming ISN was working, and lvlinux generously obliged. the call came in but then we ran onto a problem disconnect at first. i disabled ilbc and then we did not disconnect, but got no audio either way. i never had that prob before. was only trying to verify incoming ISN, but problems come up, eh. |
| 23:08.56 | WIMPy | So what else do you need to know? |
| 23:09.14 | lvlinux | igcewieling: I don't think that would be the problem since my server doesn't offer it anyway |
| 23:09.26 | tacky | lvlinux: i have audio. just not with you. lol |
| 23:09.27 | igcewieling | lvlinux: I thought you called a PRI? |
| 23:09.39 | lvlinux | tacky: ah, so your normal calls are working fine? |
| 23:09.48 | tacky | igcewieling: no, but i can disable that. |
| 23:10.02 | igcewieling | tacky: you can't disable what? |
| 23:10.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Lack of audio != codec issue |
| 23:10.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Codec issue = instantly dropped call |
| 23:10.19 | lvlinux | igcewieling: read it again :-) |
| 23:10.49 | igcewieling | its been a long day. |
| 23:10.52 | lvlinux | [TK]D-Fender: yes that's what I thought. After he disabled ilbc the call wasn't dropped anymore |
| 23:10.53 | tacky | igcewieling: no PRI involved on my end. |
| 23:11.21 | tacky | lvlinux: yes, working fine. this is the first of this prob. |
| 23:11.45 | igcewieling | "Py: well, i asked for someone to verify my incoming ISN was working, and lvl" I assumed ISN was typoe for ISDN |
| 23:12.00 | lvlinux | lol |
| 23:12.23 | tacky | igcewieling: not 'can't', 'can' (and g729, but as lvlinux said, it could not have been negotiated anyway, as it so happens). |
| 23:12.57 | lvlinux | tacky: ah, ok i didn't realize that---i just erroneously assumed you weren't getting audio anytime. |
| 23:13.04 | igcewieling | tacky: if g729 isn't biting now, it will in the future. save your self weeks of frustration and disable it. |
| 23:13.24 | lvlinux | i like ilbc better anyway :-) |
| 23:14.18 | tacky | lvlinux: no worries. i thought i was golden when the call came in. but it's always something, eh. |
| 23:15.40 | tacky | igcewieling: RE: g729. prolly good advice. i read there is some lack of sanity regarding g729a and not A that could be trouble, but i have not read up on it enough yet. |
| 23:16.03 | tacky | i want opus :D |
| 23:16.47 | tacky | mabe is some else can call ISN numbers, they could give a try. maybe lvlinux is the problem. ;) |
| 23:16.53 | tacky | s/is/if/ |
| 23:17.05 | tacky | ib4, bot :-P |
| 23:17.14 | tacky | s/ib4/inb4/ lol |
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| 23:24.42 | tacky | fyi: i disabled g729. better to have less potential battles to fight for now. |
| 23:26.16 | tacky | also, if anyone else can try an ISN number, please dial 8649*1917 to see if the audio issue is unique between lvlinux and I. |
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| 23:29.39 | WIMPy | Why don't you just say "URI"? |
| 23:30.08 | WIMPy | Or give one. |
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| 23:43.17 | lvlinux | yes that would be same thing as ISN as far as call connection: 8649@sip.backwatcher.com |
| 23:43.46 | tacky | WIMPy: because i want the call to go the full path (i.e. through the freenum.org NAPTR record and all). otherwise i am just testing SIP. |
| 23:44.26 | tacky | a SIP call success != to an ISN call success |
| 23:45.39 | WIMPy | Does anyone actually use ISN? I mean noone seems to use ENUM and I'd guess that would be a lot more popular. |
| 23:45.40 | lvlinux | tacky: when you dial an ISN, your asterisk server figures out the SIP addr, and then calls it. So the lookup is totally separate from the call. Since my call got through, the lookup is working fine. |
| 23:45.56 | lvlinux | WIMPy: I use it, and tacky does :-) lol |
| 23:46.04 | tacky | but lvlinux has already verified that my incoming ISN NAPTR stuff is working. we just fail in the RTP afterward. so, at least between lvlinux and I, i can't imaging that we would have anything but no audio still even if he did call the SIP equivalent directly. |
| 23:46.50 | tacky | WIMPy: ENUM is under a telco oligopoly stranglehold, otherwise it would be mondo popular. |
| 23:47.13 | WIMPy | There are free versions. |
| 23:47.45 | tacky | lvlinux: yes, i know. i delegated 1917.freenum.org to my own dns server. :) |
| 23:51.16 | tacky | WIMPy: RE: ENUM. from a caller perspective, why pay the operator of a private signaling network operator over a public network when you can connect directly without them? form a legacy telco perspective, why do anything by sabotage ENUM (especially since you control some of it's necessary data) when your customers will no longer need you then? :-/ |
| 23:54.04 | lvlinux | Hmmm, now I'm not able to call the ISN. |
| 23:54.11 | lvlinux | or the sip addr. |
| 23:54.18 | lvlinux | lookup failed for the ISN |
| 23:54.18 | tacky | lvlinux: fyi: i say that nat=yes is depricated, so I changed to 'nat=force_rport,comedia' and put it in the general section of sip.conf, as recommended. maybe that will have a positive affect on our audio. previously, my nat=yes only applied to my stations. |
| 23:54.45 | lvlinux | but my server isn't behind NAT either |
| 23:54.54 | tacky | lvlinux: yeah, my box is down! :-( |
| 23:55.01 | lvlinux | eeeek! |
| 23:55.06 | tacky | lvlinux: no NAT of ru 2. ack |
| 23:55.23 | WIMPy | Well, the telcos have become needless anyway. They're whining quite a lot about that, but it was their own choice. |
| 23:55.49 | lvlinux | not in rural areas, WIMPy. |
| 23:55.56 | WIMPy | And I've been on e164.org ofr many years, but still waiting for the first call. |
| 23:56.03 | tacky | am am also fighting the provider's astonishingly bad disk I/O. which is causing my box to crash frequently, in addition to being painfully slow to interact with often. they suck! |
| 23:56.12 | lvlinux | yuck, which VPS provider? |
| 23:56.18 | tacky | makes it VERY had to function. :( |
| 23:56.28 | tacky | cloudatcost |
| 23:56.36 | lvlinux | cloud vps? |
| 23:56.41 | lvlinux | how much u pay? |
| 23:56.44 | WIMPy | lvlinux: Everywhere. They don't offer telephonty any more and no find out that people use cheaper supplierts. |
| 23:56.49 | tacky | i just migrated it there a couple weeks ago. may not stay long. |
| 23:58.02 | lvlinux | tacky: serverpoint/collossuscloud, INIZ, crissic are who I use. |
| 23:58.53 | tacky | lvlinux: RE: pay. well, there's the reason i got it. i paid $14 one time fee for 512M RAM and 10G disk and 1 CPU for ever. it's on vmware (sucks), but i could live with it not never pay again IF the disk will work! i don't care about speed, but being at leas functional does matter. |
| 23:59.21 | tacky | lvlinux: yeah, i use half a dozen. i was trying this forever thing there. it's not going well. :-( |
| 23:59.34 | lvlinux | forever!?!?!?!? wow that's interesting. |
