IRC log for #asterisk on 20150823

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05:30.32moe`hey guys
05:30.39moe`can I ask a stupid question?
05:31.31moe`hey [TK]D-Fender, you alive?
05:32.11moe`file, you alive?
05:32.35moe`I'm trying to setup a stupid simple meetme and it escapes me
05:32.50moe`<--- idiot
05:33.34moe`I might have unixninja.net but I am not an asterisk ninja, much less an asterisk yoda
05:34.08moe`malcolmd... you alive?
05:34.23WIMPyAre you sure you want a MeetMe, not a ConfBridge?
05:34.35moe`WIMPy dude
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05:35.01moe`man, I want a number that when connected to the PBX it drop them into a "room"
05:35.33moe`so for example connect to asterisk, dial 1001, bang drop into a conference
05:35.58WIMPyI'd certainly go for ConfBridge.
05:36.10moe`ok so what does that mean for configs?
05:36.17moe`I was messing with meetme.conf
05:36.31moe`and obviously extensions.conf
05:37.19WIMPyconfbridge.conf.
05:38.42moe`really?  not MeetMe()
05:38.43moe`?
05:40.43moe`WIMPy tell me dude, what do you think best... the usage is simply a client connects to the PBX and then dials an "extension" to drop into a room whether there's other people there or not
05:41.07moe`when other people dial the same "extension" they drop into the room and it becomes a conference
05:42.40WIMPyThey both do that.
05:44.20moe`so that tells me nothing
05:45.22moe`meetme.conf ...   conf => 1001
05:45.43moe`extensions.conf ...  exten=>1001,1.MeetMe(1001)
05:45.52moe`that's a bad dog
05:46.01moe`what am I doing stupidly?
05:47.10WIMPyDoesn't look bd to me, but any MeetMe syntax surely has escaped me by years.
05:49.22moe`but it doesn't work... so what am I being so stupid about
05:49.34WIMPyWhat does it tell you?
05:50.41moe`I guess I shoulda done the verbose logging before asking you guys
05:50.55moe`but I thought maybe there some magic you knew that I didn't
05:51.16WIMPyBlack magic.
05:52.14moe`so to get it to rehack the configs.... asterisk -rvvv      ...           sip reload               dialplan reload
05:52.16moe`correct?
05:53.03WIMPyJust be aware that 'sip reload' only works reliable for newly added stuff, not for changing existing peers.
05:53.27moe`yeah the peer details didn't change in this case
05:53.31moe`but I hear you
05:53.35moe`thanks for the tip
05:54.15moe`if I want to change an existing peer "sip reload" won't do it
05:54.17moe`gotcha
05:54.38moe`but that's a function of sip.conf and not what I'm messing with
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06:44.17moe`dudes this is still not working
06:44.20moe`so simple
06:44.28moe`yet I'm so stupid
06:46.12moe`extensions.conf:exten=>1001,1,MeetMe(1001)
06:46.12moe`meetme.conf:conf => 1001
06:46.16moe`is that so wrong?
06:55.42moe`should there be a directive in asterisk.conf to refer to meetme.conf or is that part of the binary(asterisk bin) parsing?
07:02.23robmalmodule load app_meetme.so
07:10.02moe`module does not exist, hang on, gonna build asterisk from source, I was using FreeBSD packages
07:14.31[TK]D-FenderNo DAHDI = meetme fail
07:14.41[TK]D-FenderYou should be using confbridge anywa
07:20.32robmalYe.
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07:44.33moe`you are correct, the .so for meetme is not there
07:44.37moe`that's what the logs say
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08:24.53moe`ok, built asterisk 13.5 from source, got the meetme .so in /lib
08:25.40moe`so pray tell, where does the "module load" directive go?   asterisk.conf I assume?
08:38.55moe`got it, now I need DHADI
08:38.57moe`doh
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08:51.20moe`the source is not with me
08:51.25moe`looking for dahdi
08:51.37moe`where can I find a tarball?
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09:33.46moe`what the hell dudes
09:33.55moe`can someone tell me what I've done stupid?
09:34.08moe`built asterisk 13.5 from source
09:34.26moe`but meetme still says dahdi missing in the logs
09:35.20moe`can't find a dahdi source tarball
09:38.24moe`hadda git it
09:38.28moe`most annoying
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10:40.19ChannelZScrew MeetMe, use ConfBridge
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15:08.01tompawMorning
15:08.18tompawmoe`: isn't meetme like super deprecated?
15:25.32WIMPyWell, it's still faster than ConfBridge, but ConfBridge wins on everything else.
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15:40.28moe`so with confbridge we can have users dial an extension and land in a room ... I assume.
15:41.04WIMPyThat's the idea.
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15:42.23moe`ok, so I'll let go of meetme
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15:54.48moe`are you kidding me?
15:54.52moe`it's that easy
15:55.00moe`ConfBridge() rocks
15:55.24tompaw;>
15:55.40tompawactually, confbridge is kinda obsolete, too...
15:55.54mjordanwell, only if you want to write a lot of stuff yourself :-P
15:55.54tompawit's all about ari bridges now!
15:57.40tompawthanks to ari bridging I had to learn ansible, knock down a wall to make room for AC unit, hire my admin friend and consider building my own nuclear reactor plant
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15:59.07tompawbut i'd rather smuggle uranium than go back to dialplans :F
16:10.05WIMPymv asterisk atomix
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17:32.18_-Jon-_Does Asterisk 13 have Realtime support with native MySQL?
17:34.36igcewieling1tompaw: dialplans are not that terrible.  AEL makes them almost pleasant.
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20:29.54Happzzhi, id like to start messing around with asterisk. im totally new to this, and about to learn stuff the "hard" way.
20:30.31Happzzbefore i begin downloading, installing, etc. id like to make sure running asterisk is doable with a low end hardware
20:30.43Happzzand with a decent internet connectivity
20:57.54WIMPyWhat is low end and decent?
20:58.30WIMPyPeople use Asterisk on plastic routers. But if you want to use VOIP, you want a perfect internet connection.
21:01.14[TK]D-Fender"perfect" is a bit of a stretch.  Decent gets people by...
21:01.49WIMPyto get a message across in case of emergency it can certainly help.
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21:03.28syadnomhi all.  I'm experiementing with asterisk 13 and pjsip.  I have pjsip accepting multiple registrations by changing contacts to >1.   Now I'm trying to figure out how or if it's possible to simpulate SLA with my polycom phones.  I have them configured as shared line but that's not doing the SLA emulation.  any help?
21:04.27[TK]D-Fender* doesn't support SLA
21:04.35[TK]D-Fendernot happening.
21:04.37[TK]D-Fendergame over
21:05.17syadnom[TK]D-Fender, I don't need actual SLA
21:05.23Happzzthanks.
21:05.30Happzzim just at the playing-with-it stage :p
21:05.31[TK]D-FenderIn PJSIP that's just a pure registration, none of the bits that make SLA .... well SLA
21:05.32syadnomseem slike pjsip should be able to emulate it though
21:05.47[TK]D-Fenderwhat PARTS you want to emulate matter...
21:06.01[TK]D-Fenderit'll RING both depending on how you dial them
21:06.05syadnomwell, I have multi-ringing already.  3 devices register, 3 rings.  money.
21:06.18[TK]D-FenderSo what more?
21:06.19Happzzdo you know of any dirt-cheap trunk provider ("did"?)? dirt cheap because it's... just for playing and testing. not for real use.
21:06.32[TK]D-FenderHappzz, testing = doing.
21:06.34syadnomI'd like to basically BLA+barge on the channel
21:06.41[TK]D-Fenderproves nothing
21:06.51Happzz[TK]D-Fender yeah but i careless about quality, stability, etc. just has t obe as cheap as possible.
21:07.02Happzzand "work", at least for now.
21:07.06syadnomHappzz, vitelity is pretty inexpensive and easy.
21:07.08[TK]D-Fenderdepends where you want that DID to be.
21:07.16HappzzUS, i suppose.
21:07.39[TK]D-Fendersyadnom, barge is 100% not related to registration, and BLA (BLF).... is not a registration either
21:08.02[TK]D-Fendersyadnom, Sounds like you jsut want a BLF whose speed-dial will tell it to barge if they are on the phone.  This is a purely dialplan thing
21:08.16[TK]D-FenderAnd since you're in FreePBX .... will be harder to implement
21:08.42syadnom[TK]D-Fender, i'm not tied to freepbx, just a convenient platform.
21:09.04[TK]D-Fenderwhat you're looking for is what I have just described.
21:09.21[TK]D-Fenderstandard BLF whose extension checks the status and barges
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21:09.33syadnomso, for the 'full experience' I need pjsip for multiple registration, then I need the lines to be BLF (so I can see when it's in use) and need to be able to barge in (so you can pick up a call on hold)
21:09.48Happzzsyadnom do sip trunks providers usually charge per minute only? or do they also charge setup fees/monthly payments/etc. as well?
21:10.11syadnomHappzz, either.  you can get a per minute or an all-you-can eat.
21:10.49syadnomHappzz, http://www.vitelity.com/services_voip/
21:11.57Happzzim already looking at it. i cant see any plans there.
21:12.15Happzzit looks like they want both
21:12.23[TK]D-Fendersyadnom, No
21:12.32syadnomno?
21:12.37[TK]D-Fenderthis has nothing to do with a registrationat all
21:12.52syadnom[TK]D-Fender, I realize this.
21:12.59[TK]D-Fenderthis ia s DUMB speed dial on the phone tied to whatever the "normal" registration that phone uses as it's main would be
21:13.20[TK]D-FenderNot a "line"
21:13.51[TK]D-FenderIf on your Polycom you're referring to a LINE-KEY, then yes.  have one available and allocate a buddy to it.
21:14.01[TK]D-Fender(Directroy Entry)
21:14.45syadnomyeah, lines in this case are the line buttons on the polycom
21:17.02syadnomso are you saying that don't setup the line key to an extension?  just register the phone and then add a buddy for the extension im wanting to simulate SLA on?
21:17.09syadnom[TK]D-Fender,  ^^^
21:37.31[TK]D-Fendernot to the one you're watching
21:37.36[TK]D-Fenderit is just a "copntact
21:37.46[TK]D-Fenderyoru main reg is what will subscribe to the hint you define
21:39.53igcewieling1hey, [TK]D-Fender
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