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00:35.20prelude2004chey, anyone know if IAX supports TCP ?
00:35.29prelude2004cprobably UDP only right?
00:35.53prelude2004cproblem i am having with ios, if you close or minimize a softphone that runs on UDP , you can't get inbound calls :(
00:36.27WIMPyRealtime and TCP don't mix.
00:37.00WIMPyErr. That's an interesting "feature".
00:37.40WIMPySo what was the result of your Echo() test?
00:38.11prelude2004cdidn't need it :) channelZ pointed me in the right direction
00:38.16prelude2004ctried a new phone and voala !!
00:38.21prelude2004cstupid app :(
00:38.27prelude2004cwasted like 2 hours
00:39.00WIMPySo you used another app and that fixed it?
00:39.08prelude2004cwell the issue i am having now is... the call is good, most of the time works well... only draw back now is that while you are talking sometimes it looses data and i hear a bit of a cut out
00:39.17prelude2004canother phone
00:39.27prelude2004cwent to S5 and it fixed it
00:39.38prelude2004cproblem must be with the nubia Z9
00:40.13prelude2004cso anyone have any ideas how to better improve relability of the stream
00:40.25prelude2004cthe reason i wanted tcp is because if it can't get some packets, it would be nice if it retransmitted it
00:40.29WIMPyFix the network.
00:40.35prelude2004ci know it uses a bit more bw but if packets are not lost.. that would be awsome
00:40.36WIMPyThere's no other way.
00:40.42prelude2004ccan't fix the network... its on the other side of the world
00:40.51prelude2004cserver is in china and i am in Canada
00:41.00WIMPyThen don't use it for VOIP.
00:41.10prelude2004cbut it is for voip :)
00:41.19prelude2004chow do cell phone companies do it
00:41.27prelude2004cthe quality on my cell phone is soooo much better
00:41.29WIMPyAnd BTW: Yest IAX can set up a direct link betwenn the endpoints.
00:41.31prelude2004ceven when i am on VOIP using wifi
00:41.38WIMPyThey don't use the internet.
00:42.06prelude2004cyes i know they dont' use the internet but..... geez if you have the bw , it should not be a problem
00:42.09WIMPyIf you use wifi you can run in to the same trouble if others use it as well.
00:42.38WIMPyYes, and you obviousely don't.
00:42.49prelude2004c:)
00:43.28prelude2004chey , iax supports media from one user to another direct don't they?
00:43.38WIMPyyes
00:43.40prelude2004clike when the call RTP takes place.. doesn it go from custoemr A > B ?
00:43.57prelude2004ceg.. registraiton is in china but... if 2 are in Canada, it should only go back to initiate the call
00:44.02WIMPyThere's no RTP.
00:44.12WIMPyIt can.
00:44.16prelude2004cso do both customers in canada have to go all the way to china ?
00:44.27prelude2004cto chat to eachother because i tested on locally and its still cutting out
00:44.32prelude2004cso clearly the packets are traveling
00:44.43WIMPyIt has to be enabled and your dialplan must not make use of DTMP in the bridged call.
00:45.17prelude2004chow do you enable that ? isn't it the notransfer=no
00:45.50WIMPytransfer=yes
00:46.24WIMPyAnd if you need CDRs, there's transfer=mediaonly, but that seems to be broken. :-(
00:46.28prelude2004cisn't transfer=yes for transfering calls capabiltiy
00:46.48WIMPyNope.
00:46.55WIMPyNot in IAX.
00:47.20prelude2004cahh i had taken that out becuase i was worried about the security
00:47.24prelude2004c:) i am normally working in SIP
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00:51.19prelude2004cso media only doesn't work :(
00:51.24prelude2004cdoes it still connect with it?
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00:52.10WIMPyThe CDR part doesn't work.
00:52.46prelude2004coh that..
00:52.58prelude2004cit's ok... just for testing right now anyways :)
00:53.08prelude2004ci can have someone fix the CDR if i decide to go with it
00:53.28prelude2004csomeone working on it ?
00:55.01WIMPyI don't think so.
00:58.31prelude2004ck, if i proceed i will get it fixed and will send out the patch
00:59.09prelude2004cstill trying to decide the best case scenario for long distance ( over 300 - 500ms ) latency and low BW
00:59.10WIMPyThat would be usefull.
00:59.10prelude2004c:(
00:59.18prelude2004cthere should be a good way to do it
00:59.21prelude2004cor at least the best way to do it
00:59.38WIMPyLast time I go stuck in trying out when it fails. - It seams to always fail if the transfer succeeds.
01:00.57prelude2004chey, i am using speex
01:01.02prelude2004cdo you think that is the best codec ?
01:01.08prelude2004clow bw and high latency
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01:08.03prelude2004chey speex Wideband seems to do variable
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01:17.18*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.4.0 (2015/06/04), 11.18.0 (2015/06/04), 1.8.32.3 (2015/04/08); Standard: 12.8.2 (2015/04/08); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.10.0 (2014/08/13), DAHDI-tools 2.10.0 (2014/08/13); libpri 1.4.15 (2014/06/16) -=- Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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06:09.15branden2Hello? I'm new to irc. and I have a question about fpbx..
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07:06.53ChannelZ#freepbx
07:12.07janicezChannelZ: hi
07:12.15ChannelZahoy
07:12.48janicezChannelZ: Are you interested in a casual chat with some random user of an Asterisk competitor? :P
07:13.47ChannelZnot really. You're the Freeswitch evangelist yeah?
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07:19.16ChannelZshrugs
07:27.28janicezChannelZ: I was the yate evangelist lately
07:28.26ChannelZoh right. I couldn't remember. (I actually didn't even remember yate at all)
07:28.34janicezChannelZ: then i came back to *, then after deadlock-after-deadlock I moved to anthm's rewrite
07:30.00janicezAlso fs has support for skype, meaning now i run * and fs in tandem
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07:31.16janicezChannelZ: I also use kamailio
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09:20.10ruiedHello. I am trying to make a system with asterisk to make emergency notifications being passed to asterisk. Ex someone in a bathroom that pressed the emergency button and than send notification to asterisk that a certain room pressed the emergency button. I'm thinking with analog gateway like grandstream with 24fxs. Has anyone made something like this that?
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09:21.54ruiedI would like to use the existing wiring and keeping the analog fxs phones, do not know if with some aditional electronic in each fxs (ex: loop) it can make an event to asterisk....
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12:38.42MubI am so dumb
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12:39.17MubIt's a really bad idea to chown -R asterisk:asterisk /*
12:39.39[TK]D-FenderI've done something similar once a long time ago.
12:39.44[TK]D-Fenderkilled the FS
12:45.29WIMPyIn that case it would be a lot better to run Asterisk as root ;-)
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13:19.28dan_jWhere can I find the sample config files without building them from the source? I dont have a server that I can run it on without overriding the existing files.
13:19.55WIMPyJust read them in the source tarball.
13:19.57dan_jSpecifically, i want to look at the options for NAT
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13:24.28[TK]D-Fenderhttp://svnview.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/13/configs/samples/
13:24.50[TK]D-FenderHaven't gotten to github yet.
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13:59.19MubAlright. I have a dialplan. This dialplan: http://pastebin.com/HKgp0XXq
13:59.41MubThis is the SIP carrier template that comes with vicidial.
14:00.06MubIs it supposed to just hang up immediately and play a busy tone?
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14:07.19[TK]D-FenderMub: If does whatever that AGI does... Then if the AGI doesn't end the call it continues on to dial out using whatever is set in that var and the original number less 2 digits, then hang up
14:07.39[TK]D-FenderThere is no "busy tone" in the dialplan.
14:07.42[TK]D-FenderMaybe there is in the AGI
14:07.44[TK]D-FenderWe don't know
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14:09.18stefan27is there any time estimate for version 13.5 yet? as in more likely to be within 0-3 weeks than 1-2 months?
14:09.54[TK]D-FenderWhen whatever they are working on is more stable I guess
14:10.12[TK]D-FenderSince it's been 2 months I'd bet on sooner than later
14:11.27dan_jjohnny_|_: Thanks but that doesnt seem to be working for a client. Suddenly, they are having random calls dropping within a few seconds of starting. Only outgoing calls. It's most certainly a NAT issue but can't quite pin point it.
14:11.33file0-3 weeks
14:11.51dan_jAll incoming calls are fine. Occasional outgoing calls drop due to a SIP packet not being received.
14:13.04stefan27cool - gonna upgrade when it comes, ive skipped a few major versions
14:13.23[TK]D-Fenderstefan27: What doesn't work in 13.4.0 for you?
14:14.25mjordanstefan27: We release every 4 - 8 weeks. In this case, there's one or two last issues we want to get fixed before we get an RC out.
14:14.48mjordanthe last one, I believe, is up for review on Gerrit right now, actually
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14:15.17fileindeed! a minor comment on it, should be resolved and merged today
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14:15.36stefan27D-Fender - I have 13.1.0 with manual patches extracted from various jiras. with 13.5.0 out i can throw those patches away and get better aligned!
14:16.22[TK]D-FenderSo what about 13.4.0?
14:18.09stefan27most of the issues we had with 13.1 was with dtls which were supposedly properly solved between 13.4.0 and 13.5.0. Didnt have enough incentive to download 13.4.0 :)
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14:21.15stefan27I guess I should read all change-logs summarys from 13.2 to 13.5 to see what else happend
14:22.59stefan27Thanks for the info you 3 - have a nice weekend everyone
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14:30.53*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.4.0 (2015/06/04), 11.18.0 (2015/06/04), 1.8.32.3 (2015/04/08); Standard: 12.8.2 (2015/04/08); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.10.0 (2014/08/13), DAHDI-tools 2.10.0 (2014/08/13); libpri 1.4.15 (2014/06/16) -=- Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu
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15:12.56hkraalI'm trying to get Call files working on a system that has been thrown into my lap using http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+auto-dial+out as my source. The hello-world example works but I want to call outbound when the user picks up his phone which lead me to http://pastie.org/pastes/10309976/text?key=xkn5nenqgnpktcgjoejneg but now Asterisk is congratulating me all the time instead of dialing outbound. What is my error, wrong context? (don't
15:13.20[TK]D-FenderExtension: SIP/316123456789
15:13.27[TK]D-Fenderthat is not an extension
15:13.40[TK]D-Fenderyou have context,extension, priority to set for this
15:13.50[TK]D-Fenderthat is where in the DIALPLAN you send the caller once they answer
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15:21.55hkraal[TK]D-Fender: Not sure if I understand fully what you said but I gathered; I've to define an context containing some sort of autodial extention which actually run the Dial Application, is that more in the direction?
15:22.36[TK]D-Fenderyes
15:22.51[TK]D-Fenderthis is just the reverse of a normal call.
15:23.01[TK]D-Fender* calls OUT to Channel: then dumps them into the dialplan
15:23.10[TK]D-Fenderinstead of call coming IN from a device, and then hitting the dialplan
15:23.33hkraalRight... thats works... awsome... some puzzle pieces are falling into place, thanks! :)
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15:48.41Ice_StrikeOn the dialer system web backend, I can create an outbound queue with name, ring times, etc. It will then insert into MYSQL. Should it also add addiontal outbound queue in the asterisk extensions dynamically or how it should work?
15:49.19[TK]D-FenderGUI's not supported here....
15:50.21Ice_StrikeI am not asking that.
15:51.16[TK]D-FenderOk, there is no such thing as an "outbound queue" really either...
15:51.34[TK]D-Fenderso I'm not quite sure what your direction is on this
15:51.37WIMPyAnd why extensions?
15:51.40[TK]D-Fenderrephrase that a little
15:59.02Ice_StrikeI will try my best to rephrase. I am trying to understand the logic. If I develop my own predictive dialer system (web base) - I can create a number of Inbound or Outounds queue/campaign. Basically I enter a campaign such as "Technical Support" and choosed Outounds type. That information get added to MySQL database. Now how does Asterisk dialer plan come to play for new added queue/campaign?
15:59.13Ice_StrikeI have tried my best to rephrase.
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16:02.01WIMPyThe dialplan coes to play when you originate a call.
16:02.22WIMPyThat's somethign you will have to do.
16:04.43Ice_StrikeIndeed I understand that. Should every new Outounds or Inbound queues/campaigns get dynamically added into dialplan?
16:07.03WIMPyWhat dou you want to add to your dialplan?
16:13.20Ice_StrikeWIMPy Well If I have add mulitple Outounds queues/campaigns via web backend. Then I want all added campaigns can originates the outbound calls. Each campaign have unique ID from from MySQL, and each campaign may have different max ring times, max call attempts.
16:14.22WIMPyAnd why do you need to add/modify dialplan for that? You have to do the queueing anyway.
16:15.13Ice_StrikeAh ok, just trying to understand the logic how it work.
16:15.39WIMPyIt is (or will be) YOUR logic.
16:15.57Ice_StrikeHow does queueing come to play?
16:16.49WIMPyThat's what it's all about, isn't it?
16:18.57Ice_StrikeWIMPy http://pastebin.com/19TDPEBv
16:19.37WIMPyWhat's that? It says absolutely nothing.
16:19.57Ice_StrikeI have seen a predictive dialer system that everytime I add a new outbund campaign, it get added in the extention.conf
16:20.26Ice_StrikeThis pastebin example
16:20.58WIMPyYou surely could do so, but I have no idea why you would.
16:21.07Ice_StrikeAlso campaign-queue-c is definded in campaign table in mysql database.
16:21.38Ice_StrikeWIMPy Ah ok. That is why I am asking is there is better approch or how can it be done without this.
16:22.34WIMPyCreate an extension for your calls and pass variables as needed.
16:22.35Ice_StrikeLooking at in queues.conf - [campaign-queue-c] and [campaign-queue-a]
16:22.42Ice_Strikethe block is 100% identical
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16:22.53Ice_StrikeIt has campaign-queue-a to campaign-queue-z
16:23.05Ice_Strikein queues.conf
16:23.16Ice_StrikeProberly badly designed.
16:23.51WIMPySo it's limited to annoying 26 groups of people simultaneousely?
16:24.32Ice_Strikeyes
16:27.26Ice_StrikeWIMPy So there is no need for mulitple queues for each campaigns?
16:29.07Ice_Strikeor how queues suppose to work for each campaign
16:29.39WIMPyThe queues are NOT in the dialplan. They are in whatever you're going to write.
16:32.56Ice_Strikewrite via?
16:33.10WIMPy???
16:34.03Ice_StrikeIgnore me :) I need to read about Queue.
16:35.37WIMPyIt is something you have to do. Asterisk doesn't have any such functionality included.
16:35.43Ice_Strikehttp://www.asteriskdocs.org/en/3rd_Edition/asterisk-book-html-chunk/ACD_id285928.html
16:35.47Ice_StrikeI am reading that page
16:35.54Ice_StrikeIt has
16:35.55Ice_Strike[sales](StandardQueue)
16:35.59Ice_Strike[support](StandardQueue)
16:36.09Ice_StrikeStandardQueue is a template
16:36.47Ice_StrikeCan [something via database](StandardQueue) be added dymaically via AMI or something?
16:37.54WIMPyThose are incomming cueues AKA ACD.
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16:38.08WIMPyThat has nothign to do with outgoing calls.
16:38.12Ice_StrikeAhh
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16:52.16Ice_StrikeHmmm What you think of Dynamic realtime + queues?
16:52.24Ice_Strikehttp://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2013-April/278638.html
16:55.05[TK]D-FenderI fail to see why I'd even care.  I'd just generate mine on demand like FreePBX does if I wanted to do it myself
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17:02.56[TK]D-FenderIce_Strike: Also templates do not exist in DB
17:03.02[TK]D-Fenderthat is text-only
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17:05.59Ice_Strike[TK]D-Fender Yep/
17:06.00Ice_Strike.
17:07.22Ice_Strike[TK]D-Fender With Asterisk, how to create new Queue name on demand?
17:07.39[TK]D-Fendermake the queue.  reload your config
17:07.45[TK]D-Fender~book
17:07.45infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
17:07.46[TK]D-Fender^^^^^
17:07.56[TK]D-Fenderthere is a wonderful BOOK that says how * works.....
17:14.17Ice_StrikeYes I know, I meant is there a way to make the queue "dynamically" and reload config.
17:15.04Ice_StrikeVia web -> Enter a new queue name and submit -> add to a queue
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17:23.16[TK]D-FenderIt';s either realtime, or flat + reload
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18:08.59joker_89hi
18:09.16joker_89i have a wrt54gl router, do anyone knows if that router will work with asterisk with some firmware?
18:11.10robmaldd-wrt if any
18:12.38joker_89and openwrt?
18:13.27[TK]D-FenderIt'll work fine stock
18:13.51joker_89which one [TK]D-Fender ?
18:13.59[TK]D-Fenderthat router
18:14.04[TK]D-Fenderwith what it COMES with
18:14.16joker_89with dd-wrt it comes with asterisk?
18:14.18joker_89and with openwrt no?
18:14.39[TK]D-FenderThree is a difference between "work with asterisk" and "RUNS asterisk"
18:14.47[TK]D-FenderYour question was poorly worded
18:15.34[TK]D-FenderAnd I'm sure Google can turn up plenty of results for the latter
18:17.46joker_89mmm
18:25.05lordvadrSo I've got an interesting problem--older system (1.8.7.0) getting upgraded but I need to find out if this is either a bug (fixed or not), or if this is a config issue.  I've got several instances of iaxmodem running over localhost, and * appers to hang momentairly every so often for something to the tune of ~130ms.  Here's part of the stream analysis for one of the calls.  Take a look at packets 48-5
18:25.06lordvadr4...everything stops for 151ms, then 5 packets come out nearly instantly, and then everything goes back on it's merry way: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11931691/
18:26.18lordvadrI've seen something similar before, but it involved debug turned on in a DAHDI kernel module where the interrupt handler was spinning and starving the NIC interrupt.  This, however, is on the lo interface, so it appears the process or thread is hanging.  I can find nothing in the debug logs that shed any light on it.
18:26.47lordvadrIt also appears to be happening on RTP streams setup via SIP as well, but the jitter buffers seem to be handling them fairly well.
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19:49.47DovidOthern than using MusicOnHold is there any way to play an online music stream? The issue I have is I need to have 200+ streams but only pull them when needed
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22:04.01westondennishello
22:05.57pjensen00wut up
22:07.45westondennisI have a Digium TE133 Wildcard. Can someone tell me what exactly it is used for?
22:08.25WIMPyConnecting to PSTN equipment.
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22:08.47WIMPyMAybe you should take a look at what's connected to it.
22:10.22westondennisIt connects VoIP with traditional telephone systems right?
22:11.16WIMPyThere doesn't have to be VOIP involved.
22:12.28westondennisCould you possibly explain what it does in more detail?
22:13.54WIMPyYou can connect one E1/T1/J1 line to it or some equipment like a PBX with the same interface.
22:15.54westondennisThen what would it do?
22:17.35WIMPyEnable you to sen and receive calls.
22:18.32WIMPy(or data)
22:18.37westondennisTraditional telephone calls?
22:18.52[TK]D-Fendercalls over a T1/E1/J1 type interface
22:18.54WIMPyyes
22:19.25[TK]D-FenderThis is a kind of link offered by telcos
22:19.37[TK]D-Fenderor it could used to interface with other gear that uses the same.
22:20.12westondennisCan you explain what exactly T1 is?
22:20.15[TK]D-FenderYou could for intance use it to connect an existing PBX and then use * to send those calls over some other technology that the PBX didn't natively support
22:20.18[TK]D-Fender~t1
22:20.18infobot[~T1] T1 is the basic digital telephony circuit used in North America. T1 runs at 1.544 Mbps. It can be an unstructured channel for data. It can be channelized, to provide 24 time slots of voice or data, each of 64kbps. Time slot 24 is used for D-Chan when used with PRI signalling.
22:20.24westondennisSorry if I'm slow I'm new to Asterisk and telephony in general
22:20.35[TK]D-FenderT2 = Digital phone circuit
22:20.37[TK]D-FenderT1*
22:21.23westondennisThis is making more sense to me now.
22:21.26westondennisThanks guys!
22:23.42westondennisSo if I have a server running AsteriskNOW as my IP PBX would I be able to connect the card to it?
22:24.02WIMPyTo what?
22:24.07westondennisThe server
22:24.21WIMPyYou need to be more specific.
22:24.56WIMPyAre we talking about interfaces or multiple servers or what?
22:25.37westondennisJust a single server.
22:25.41[TK]D-Fenderyes
22:25.44[TK]D-Fenderits a card
22:25.47[TK]D-Fenderyou put it in a server
22:25.52WIMPyAnd what do you want to connect where?
22:25.52[TK]D-Fender* can talk to the card
22:26.06[TK]D-FenderDo you have, or are you planning on getting a T1 circuit?
22:26.24westondennisI don't have one currently.
22:26.54WIMPyWhat do you plan to do?
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22:27.21westondennisI'm not sure I just have this card.
22:27.42WIMPySo you have no use for it?
22:28.07westondennisNot at the moment just looking to put it to use I guess.
22:28.37westondennisThis really isn't my field but I was handed this card and I'm supposed to figure out what to do with it.
22:28.57WIMPyIf you don;t have anything you could connect to it ...
22:29.02[TK]D-FenderIt can hold down a few sheets of paper from a mild breeze then....
22:29.16WIMPyThat would work.
22:29.35WIMPyOr you put it on ebay and hope someone offers a few bucks.
22:29.57westondennisHmm our offices are indoors, breezes don't blow through too often.
22:30.38westondennisSo what is something I could connect the card to?
22:30.56[TK]D-Fendera telco circuit or hardware PB that has such an interface itself
22:31.01[TK]D-FenderI just told you that...
22:31.11WIMPyA telco line or a (not too small) PBX would be the most obvious ones.
22:32.33janicezWhat's a J1
22:33.22[TK]D-FenderJapanese version of T1
22:33.27janicezaha
22:33.28WIMPyThe japanese version of T1.
22:34.37WIMPyA point where the North Americans aren't the only odd ones :-)
22:35.04janicezLOL
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