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01:23.44rockydoggyHi everyone, i'm looking for help to build a daily script. The script gonna ping a specific hostname and update my sip.conf "permit=" ip address.  I has been looking many website last week and cannot find any example. thanks for helping
01:24.57MaliutaLapThat's not really a * thing, more of a bash/perl scipting thing
01:25.58rockydoggyi was thinking about a bash script that I can add to my cron service
01:27.19rockydoggyI know : dig +short google.ca works to get the ip. but cannot make it write the file.
01:28.55MaliutaLapcreate a template file and the use a sed command to do what you want into a temp file, cp the temp file into place, restart/reload *
01:29.03MaliutaLapproblem solvered
01:30.24[TK]D-FenderOr forget "permit" altogether and just set that hostname as the "host"
01:30.53[TK]D-Fenderbecause a fixed host would only permit them anyway
01:32.18MaliutaLap[TK]D-Fender: doesn't the hostname thing only do a dns lookup on load? which is bad for dynamic ip's
01:32.47MaliutaLap[TK]D-Fender: but still your method would only need a sip reload to refresh
01:39.18rockydoggyMaliutaLap Does SIP reload hang up current call?
01:43.01MaliutaLapnot AFAIK
01:43.23MaliutaLap[TK]D-Fender might have a more definitive answer
01:43.34[TK]D-Fenderrockydoggy> MaliutaLap Does SIP reload hang up current call? <- no
01:44.16[TK]D-Fender<MaliutaLap> [TK]D-Fender: doesn't the hostname thing only do a dns lookup on load? which is bad for dynamic ip's <- I suspect it does a DNS lookup on demand as it goes....
01:44.20[TK]D-FenderCould be wrong.
01:44.39[TK]D-Fendereasy enough to script of course if you wanted to go the other way
01:45.15rockydoggy[TK]D-Fender : Thank you. Just to confirm, I do replace my host=dynamic by host=myhostname.com and it should only allow that host.
01:45.17rockydoggycorrect?
01:45.27[TK]D-Fenderit will.
01:45.36rockydoggyVery appreciate I will test it.
01:45.37MaliutaLap[TK]D-Fender: now you're destroying my illusions of the world! I thought you were all knowing, all seeing! :(
01:45.39rockydoggyThanks again
01:45.44[TK]D-Fenderthe question MaliutaLap brought up was if it only looked on load.
01:46.04[TK]D-Fenderthen again.... you could reload on interval as well which is easier to script
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01:48.35MaliutaLap[TK]D-Fender: my understanding was that it did the hostname lookup once, on load (unless "host=" was set to dynamic). I also understood that using a hostname was not compatible with dynamic
01:50.13MaliutaLapwhich is part of my understanding of the hostname lookup method
01:53.42rockydoggyIt does resolve the correct hostname IP, but receiving error : chan_sip.c:28235 handle_request_register: Registration from '<sip:MYEXTENSION@MYSERVERIP>' failed for 'MYREMOTEPHONEEXTIP:1024' - Peer is not supposed to register
01:55.38[TK]D-Fenderindeed
01:55.50[TK]D-Fenderbecause if the host is fixed then they are not ALLOWED to register
01:55.57[TK]D-Fenderregistering should not be a requirement
01:56.02[TK]D-Fenderbecause you KNOW where they are
01:57.53MaliutaLapI think I leave my cisco on dynamic so I can have it register each line
02:02.17[TK]D-FenderYou think you know why you did things?
02:02.19[TK]D-Fender;)
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02:05.14MaliutaLap'twas a while ago
02:05.29MaliutaLapdidn't document my reasoning
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05:23.11linociscohi all from west of the globe, if you are not sleeping , let me ask you one
05:24.04linociscois there any aseterisk based free hotel solution?
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05:45.18[TK]D-Fenderlinocisco, Who's going to make an entire solution for that kind of business and give it away for FREE?
05:47.14linociscothe question is Yes Or No only? CentOS is free, Ubuntu is free claimed to be free forver so far. It is not easy to compare but I just wonder it exists or not.
05:53.11MaliutaLapDebian is free, Asterisk is free
05:53.19MaliutaLapbuild it yourself is free :)
05:53.26[TK]D-Fenderlinocisco, Because all of those are GENERIC
05:54.30[TK]D-FenderCoentOS is just one distro.
05:54.33[TK]D-FenderAnd a BAD example
05:54.36linociscobecause some call center solutions and CRM to be used with asterisk/Elastix is free
05:54.45[TK]D-Fenderit is a REBRANDING of RHEL which is a commercial distro
05:54.48linociscoI am just wondering
05:56.16[TK]D-Fenderlinocisco, that is a VERY specific industry.  People who'd make a system to run that entire specific business would charge for the work it takes to implement.
05:56.45MaliutaLapI doubt there is anything pre-built for a specific industry that is going to be free, or fit the business model as every business in that industry
05:56.47[TK]D-FenderHow many free billing solutions are there for *?
05:56.58[TK]D-FenderNot much.  And most are crap
05:57.11linocisco[TK]D-Fender, yes. I agree but call centers solutions and CRMs are found commerciially and usable for SMBs somehow with basic features
05:57.12MaliutaLap[TK]D-Fender: including the roll your own? Infinity ;)
05:57.13[TK]D-FenderActually, that'd be "justabout all"
05:58.10linociscoI dont mean complete perfect all in one solution. Just for basic most common features that would benefit for small business
05:59.45[TK]D-FenderThere is no "'basic" for this.
05:59.50[TK]D-FenderThose pieces need to fit.
06:00.01[TK]D-FenderCall limiting, billing, checkin/out scheduling, etc
06:00.12[TK]D-Fender"hotel business" != "generic business.
06:00.31[TK]D-FenderGeneric Business = FreePBX <-
06:03.30MaliutaLapeww
06:04.59MaliutaLapI would figure the profit margin on a hotel providing that kind of service would justify the cost to get someone to come in and do something up to fit with their model
06:07.13[TK]D-FenderHence why I can't imagine anyone going through that much specific effort to give away the product for free
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07:03.37coppiceI was in a hotel recently that seemed to have shiny new Nortel phones. I wonder where those were dug up from?
07:04.07MaliutaLapcoppice: did you plug into the phone port and see what you could find?
07:05.01MaliutaLapcoppice: I know this guy who travels alot for work, he tends to do things like get root on every IPTV setop box in the hotel
07:05.25MaliutaLapactually this is one of his other "things" - http://blog.docbert.org/spoofing-public-wifi-networks/
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07:24.06TriJetScudcoppice: probably old stock "avaya" phones that they never bothered to rebadge as nortel
07:24.15TriJetScudit could very well be refurbed phones
07:25.16coppicerefurbed phones always look what they are
07:26.13TriJetScudtrue
07:26.40TriJetScudcoppice: what models did you run into?
07:26.50TriJetScudwere they the norstar's or the newer SIP phones
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07:52.59seik0continued investigation of asterisk sudden low performance (before it worked well, I even tested it under load). Is it normal, that system generates a lot of "TLB shutdown" and "Resheduling interrupts" while running asterisk?
07:53.20seik0For a moment I can't test system with no asterisk running
07:53.37seik0it's a bit productive
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08:26.55WIMPyDoesn't sound normal to me.
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08:29.31seik0WIMPy, again stopped on that memory leak causing that
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08:30.42seik0have two asterisk machines with memory leak problem and 3 without. Former has similar symptoms
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08:32.59WIMPyMemory leaks are evil. Do you know whereabout they are?
08:33.50seik0they are in oracle odbc driver
08:34.02seik0oracle odbc driver for x86
08:34.53seik0however, we do not have leak in them in asterisk 1.4, but have in 1.8
08:35.07seik0current workaround is to use x64
08:35.20seik0x64 oracle odbc driver does not show memory leak
08:35.26WIMPyIs the Oracle part as old as the Asterisks?
08:36.04seik0=), no, tried most recent drivers
08:37.11seik0btw, asterisk 1.4 quite stable. missing some sweet features maybe
08:38.02WIMPyMissing a lot.
08:38.24seik0missing supported dahdi, though
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08:42.05seik0the only thing is that leak was all the way from the beginning and asterisk became slow yesterday
08:42.23WIMPyI can remember some random features of 1.4 with zaptel.
08:42.36seik0zaptel in 1.4 quite bad
08:42.45WIMPyIHMO 1.8 was the first usable version. Even if 1.4 was indeed stable.
08:43.18seik0especially when it lacks resources - it hangs and very hard to restore drivers without reboot
08:43.50WIMPyThat's not somethign I remember.
08:46.07seik0that's the only issue with zaptel I know =), but I experienced only a few installations
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09:10.17MaliutaLapzaptel??? haven't moved to dahdi?
09:12.00WIMPyYou'd need a reasonably recent Asterisk version to do so.
09:14.40MaliutaLapgod 1.4 is ancient
09:20.37seik0once we will surely migrate =)
09:22.36WIMPyUnless your dialplan is even older, that should be easy.
09:25.10seik0dialplan is in db, migrating is easy. moreover, we have 1.4 and 1.8 processing same dialplan using db views
09:25.18MaliutaLapWIMPy: you are making me want to do the IRC equivalent of stick my fingers in my ears and going "la la la la"
09:25.21seik0harder to migrate hardware
09:26.02MaliutaLapseik0: what hardware are you migrating?
09:26.47seik0not migrating, but rather would be good to migrate )
09:26.56seik0new machine, maybe virtual
09:27.08seik0mainly e1
09:27.31WIMPyDoes that work now?
09:27.49seik0work
09:28.09MaliutaLapzaptel/dahdi devices in a VM? are you using pci pass through or soemething
09:28.12seik0just keep cpu a bit idle for zaptel not to hang entire system
09:28.14WIMPyI mean virtualization and dahdi?
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09:28.33MaliutaLap^^ my point
09:28.49seik0we have working e1-eth in production and it's ok
09:29.13seik0virtualisation sometimes have issues with old kernels
09:29.17WIMPyUgh
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11:39.40BigKristoffHi :) Should Asterisk detect fax through faxdetect option if CNG signal is comming in RTFC 2833 RTP Event?
11:40.36eirirsppl still using fax in 2015? :)
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11:41.36BigKristoffyeah... unfortunately ;)
11:42.28eirirsyou better laugh at them
11:42.39eirirswe should make fax-user ashamed of it, so they start moving on
11:42.48eirirsusers*
11:44.26BigKristoffi Will, but now they are laughing ant me ;) Fax detecrtion works perfeclty fine when CNG signal comes in RTP stream. But in my case I have CNG in seperate event (RTP Event) and... I'm not shure if this is a Asterisk Bug or Asterisk supports only CNG in Audio
11:46.41coppiceits quite unusual to see it sent as RFC4733 event. asterisk didn't support it the last time I looked, but that might have changed.
11:49.07BigKristoffFor now I have one machine that is using RFC.
11:49.32BigKristoffits  WorkCentre 3220
11:51.29coppicethat's a good point. quite a few of those types of machines are probably capable of sending those events, yet the problem seldom arises. I wonder why
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11:55.25BigKristoffi should mentioned that it is Asterisk 11.16.0
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12:32.28pbxmanhello
12:36.21BigKristoffhello
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14:05.23adeelon * 1.8, if fax detection is enabled on a sip peer, is it possible to NOT have * jump to the fax extension?
14:06.01[TK]D-FenderNo, that is the entire point of detection.
14:06.08[TK]D-FenderSo that it can jump to where it needs to jump to
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14:08.37adeelthanks
14:09.15WIMPyWhy do you enable fax detection if you don't want it?
14:09.23adeelWIMPy: i do want it...just not always
14:10.18adeelbut i see i can override it on a per peer definition...so let's see what happens when i set the endpoint to have faxdetect=no
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15:02.49russlevyhi, i'm having an issue with the opus codec. a user seems to have figured out how to crash the server when connecting through websockets
15:02.57russlevythis is the last message before the crash: http://pastebin.com/SaiUNGxX
15:04.04WIMPy~collectdebug
15:04.04infobotcollectdebug is, like, a method of collecting logs allowing others help troubleshoot an issue.  Refer to https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Collecting+Debug+Information
15:04.30WIMPyIf it crashes, make sure you have core dumps enabled.
15:05.10russlevydon't have coredump. how do i enable?
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15:06.58russlevygoing to wait for us to reproduce, debug logging enabled to file now
15:10.45WIMPyThe wiki page should explain it all. Analyzing the core dump is the key when it crashes.
15:12.51russlevythx -- core dumps enabled, debugging on, so will try to crash again
15:16.18newtonrThat page doesn't explain core dumps or getting a backtrace
15:16.20newtonrhere you go https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+a+Backtrace
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15:21.09WIMPyOh. Do we have a short cut for that in the bot?
15:21.30russlevyI have the core dump, but i guess i need to recompile with better backtraces?
15:24.50WIMPyProbably, but look at what you've got.
15:26.17russlevyhow would i find the issue?
15:26.29russlevyhere's the only extra error message that seems to mean anything: [2015-06-23 08:19:24] WARNING[17108][C-0000002a] translate.c: Out of buffer space
15:26.47russlevy(in addition to the same ones i have in the pastebin)
15:26.47WIMPyThat looks usefull.
15:27.11russlevyas well as "[2015-06-23 08:19:24] DEBUG[17108][C-0000002a] translate.c: Sample size different 160 vs 960"
15:27.43russlevybut this is all happening while i'm getting the opus corrupted stream messages
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15:28.56russlevywhich compiler flags should i enable i menuconfig? dont_optimize and debug_threads?
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15:42.06mastahhI do not know how many of you guys sell Asterisk to your customers as a VoIP solution, but what do you normally charge with Asterisk being open-source? Do you just literally charge for professional services?
15:45.19[TK]D-Fender100 flavours of "depends"
15:45.23[TK]D-FenderTo ogeneric
15:45.40[TK]D-FenderSome people use * as small hooking for other systems jsut as an "announcement" tool
15:45.45[TK]D-FenderOthers setup full call-centers
15:45.50[TK]D-FenderOther setup as SMB PBX's.
15:45.55[TK]D-FenderOthers as fax gateways
15:46.03[TK]D-FenderEVERY kind of project is 100% different than another
15:46.14[TK]D-FenderI use Asterisk as a JUKEBOX, and a COFFEE MAKER
15:46.17[TK]D-FenderYMMV
15:46.42[TK]D-FenderThe question is at best a crappy poll you shouldn't expect too much actionable info from.
15:48.32mastahhI am looking to use Asterisk as a complete alternative to Cisco Unified Communication.
15:50.04[TK]D-FenderDepends if you're offering it as in-house.  Maybe "on-site" as a finished "good"
15:50.18[TK]D-FenderGo look what other companies are making similar offerings
15:50.28[TK]D-Fenderdoesn't matter if it"s * behind the scenes or not
15:51.01mastahhWith Asterisk, you are not having to pay through your teeth for licensing. That is where vendors such as Cisco really get you.
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15:51.37mastahhYou end up paying half of the total cost of the solution mainly on licensing features where Asterisk can be built to any specification on pretty much any budget and still get the same functionality of Cisco.
15:52.17[TK]D-FenderNot quite
15:52.25[TK]D-FenderBecause * is only one little part of the equation
15:52.33[TK]D-Fender[11:42]mastahhI do not know how many of you guys sell Asterisk to your customers as a VoIP solution, but what do you normally charge with Asterisk being open-source? Do you just literally charge for professional services?
15:52.36[TK]D-FenderAnd look at your question.
15:52.45[TK]D-FenderThere are lots of other UC solutions out there.
15:52.57[TK]D-FenderThey ALSO cost a fair amount and are almost all licensed per-user, etc
15:53.01[TK]D-Fenderthis is a BUSINESS QUESTION
15:53.13[TK]D-FenderThis has nothing to do with the fact 1 piece of the engine is "free"
15:53.22[TK]D-Fenderyou are paying for a finished product
15:53.35mastahhI see your point.
15:53.37[TK]D-FenderHow cheap do you think you are going to offer your solution vs the rest of the market?
15:53.41[TK]D-FenderThat's entirely up to you.
15:53.47[TK]D-FenderBut there is no relationship
15:54.05mastahhThat is true.
15:54.12[TK]D-FenderYou should go do some market research on UC in general.
15:54.22[TK]D-FenderThe client generally rarely knows or cares what's on the backend
15:54.47mastahhDefinitely, I was trying to artituclate that and you have hit the nail on the head [TK]D-Fender
15:55.26mastahhI am very Cisco-centric and have come from a Cisco partner and now I am coming in to a world where as long as the solution does the job, it does not matter whose or what badge is on the kit.
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16:20.01carrarmastahh: Is free, so we don't charge our customer anything!! :)
16:20.05carrarit's
16:22.02mastahhThat is what I thought. You would simply charge for the time required to provision servers and configure the system to meet the needs of the customer, carrar
16:22.56[TK]D-Fendermastahh: nope
16:23.08[TK]D-Fendermastahh: Have you looked at all those other UC service vendors?
16:23.23[TK]D-Fendermastahh: those are ways it gets sold
16:23.40[TK]D-Fendermastahh: REmove Asterisk from you mind completely concerning this
16:24.01mastahh[TK]D-Fender: are you referencing vendors such as Mitel, ShoreTel etc?
16:24.03[TK]D-Fendermastahh: You want to know how the market sells UC?  Look at how those companies DO.
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16:24.35[TK]D-Fendermastahh: I'm referring to any UC vendor.  There are HUNDREDS
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16:25.18[TK]D-Fendermastahh: Permanently ignore the fact that Asterisk could be one piece of YOUR offering, and that it happens to be free.
16:25.54[TK]D-Fendermastahh: Tons oc ompanies use BSD as a backing OS in their otherwise closed solutions.  Has NO impact on how they sell the finished complete solution
16:26.08mastahhThat is true. I never thought of it that way
16:26.52mastahhAnother way to look at it is high-end storage platforms such as NetApp utilise FreeBSD -- free being the key word
16:26.57mastahhand they charge a premium for their product.
16:27.16mastahh[TK]D-Fender I see your point, completely now.
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16:27.23[TK]D-FenderSo forget about  this aspect entirely.
16:28.04[TK]D-Fender"What kind of packagaing and licensing terms do other UC vendors sell their products via?"
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16:34.57t4nk093hi, I am scratching my head over something and just wanted to get the thoughts of an expert, I have one side audio on SIP when dialing between an asterisk phone system and a Unify X8 - OSB V1, I captured a dump of the nic and can see that the rtp returns are attempting to go to an ip address outside of my local range
16:36.07t4nk093I dont appear to be able to change the STUN details on the Unify (the PBX with out audio) so was wondering if there was any way to repoint the rtp traffic to the Unify local address
16:36.21[TK]D-FenderFix your peer
16:36.31[TK]D-FenderYou tell it whether to trust what the other side says or not
16:36.39t4nk093ok
16:36.44[TK]D-Fendernat= <-------------------
16:36.54t4nk093yeh nat=no
16:36.54[TK]D-Fendercanreinvite= <------------
16:37.05t4nk093canreinvite=yes
16:37.10[TK]D-Fendernat=no = trust whatever they say
16:37.16t4nk093ok
16:37.38[TK]D-FenderWhich doesn't seem to be working out too well for you so far
16:37.51t4nk093no isn't
16:38.15t4nk093i will try changing it
16:38.19t4nk093thanks for your help
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17:24.22aquaguyHello. I'm receiving calls from by SIP provider, in extensions.conf I've added the extension to answer those calls, I've tried answering the call and playing the music on hold and it works.
17:24.44aquaguyThe problem is that instead of playing music on hold I want to pass the call to an IVR and that does not work
17:24.45aquaguyhttp://pastebin.com/aBq4se0s
17:26.14WIMPyThe Goto is wrong and your use of Background and MusicOnHold doesn't make sense.
17:27.41linociscohow to provision grandstream GXP1405 phone?
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17:28.33aquaguyWIMPy: there is a WatExten and some extensions bellow that, I havent posted it cause I though it was irrelevant for the question I was asking
17:31.09hexanolon asterisk 13.4.0, we were doing some tests with app_queue, and we found a segfault on the following scenario
17:31.32hexanola caller calls a queue, then a queue member answer the calls; when the caller does a blind transfer to someone else, asterisk segaults
17:31.59hexanolsomeone is aware of this bug ? we've look at issues.asterisk.org, but did not found any related ticket
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17:32.52[TK]D-Fenderhexanol: Congratulations, you win the earlybird prize!
17:33.02WIMPyaquaguy: The two toints are still valid.
17:33.19hexanolalright, it's just that sometimes I try looking for issues on the tracker and don't find them
17:33.30hexanolso I'm asking before opening a new issue
17:34.31hexanolbecause I'm a bit surprised this hasn't been found, since this happens in a systematic way, but oh well
17:36.32[TK]D-Fenderaquaguy: MoH breaks your Background and is "blocking".  This is not a proper IVR.
17:36.46[TK]D-Fenderaquaguy: Also note that they cannot interrupt your firs Playback
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18:00.14hexanolI've opened a new issue: https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-25185
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18:05.14pjensen00Quick question, is there a way to listen for SIP responses in ARI?  For instance, if i'm doing a dial I want to be able to see if I get a SIP 404 or a 502 error
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18:05.30mjordanhexanol: please generate a full backtrace for the issues.
18:05.42mjordanhexanol: instructions for generating backtraces can be found on the wiki:
18:06.07mjordanhttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+a+Backtrace
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18:10.46hexanolmjordan: I've removed the previous files and replaced them with the gdb command from the wiki
18:11.37mjordanapparently the caller is NULL in those cases. That's odd.
18:17.54DivideBy0pjensen00: I don't believe so, but others may know more
18:18.12DivideBy0the call doesn't get passed into your stasis app until it connects, so you wont see those sorta things either
18:18.21pjensen00I did'nt think so either, since it's kind of wrapped up in the asterisk hangup codes
18:18.35pjensen00as far as "BYE" goes
18:18.38DivideBy0you can get a hangup code
18:18.44pjensen00yep, I have those
18:18.46pjensen00:)
18:18.53DivideBy0oh, ok
18:19.15pjensen00They map some of the SIP error codes into asterisk hangup codes
18:20.08DivideBy0which one maps to "slammed down handset"? I miss slamming the phone down after a phone call
18:20.54WIMPyIf you slam it down hard enough to destry it, that would be a timeout.
18:21.13DivideBy0I push the touch-screen really hard. It's just not the same
18:21.46DivideBy0can I borrow your cell?
18:21.53DivideBy0I want to test the timeout
18:22.06WIMPyJust hold your finger the hangup icon until the "really hard" option appears :-)
18:22.39DivideBy0oh, lemme try that!
18:22.39WIMPyOn a cellphone it's easy. Just drop the battery.
18:23.52WIMPyThat just makes me wonder what happened to that issue. Did someone decide on using the Cisco code or the correct one, yet?
18:23.57pjensen00I have a deskphone that allows me to slam some serious plastic.
18:24.52WIMPyLooks like that one is still open.
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19:08.49BigKristoffHi :)
19:08.49BigKristoffDoes Asterisk supports fax detection through faxdetect option if CNG signal is comming in RFC 2833 RTP Event?
19:08.49BigKristoffI have WorkCentre 3220 traing to send FAX to may Asterisk 11.16.0 (faxdetect = yes). The CNG tone is comming to Asterisk through RFC 2833 RTP Event, and Asterisk seems to ignore it, event when i sent DTMF mode to RFC.
19:08.49BigKristoffWhen CNG comes in RTP stream everything works fine.
19:11.25hexanolanother question about app_queue, about the AgentComplete event that is sent when the caller or the member hangups a call
19:11.41hexanolin the AgentComplete event, there's never both the information about the caller and the agent
19:11.56hexanolif the agent hangs up, only the caller information is in the event
19:12.08hexanoland if the caller hangs up, only the agent information is in the event
19:12.18hexanolsomeone is aware of this behaviour ?
19:19.49TazzNZBigKristoff, have you enabled DTMF debugging to confirm you are getting the signal ?
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19:21.14TazzNZhexanol, I havn't looked into that tbh, but you know that you can declare varibles that will remain with the call until both parties have hung up - like Set(__VAR,bla)
19:21.43TazzNZno matter where you are, you will then have access to that - within the same call ofcourse :)
19:22.41hexanolI understand that, but in this case that does not help
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19:26.23TazzNZwhy not save both the details, then recall it when you need ?
19:29.59hexanolthe problem in this case seems to be that the hangup callback in app_queue is called after the channel's destructor has run, so the channel snapshot of the channel which hanged up is not in the ast_channel_cache anymore and is thus never available in the AgentComplete AMI message
19:31.33hexanolwell I have an external application (using the AMI) which we are updating for asterisk 13 (from asterisk 11), and in asterisk 11 that information was there
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19:32.52TazzNZlog a bug then imho
19:33.33TazzNZhave you checked to see if the info wasn't deprecated in 12 ?
19:34.28hexanolI've looked on the wiki and the CHANGES and UPGRADE files and no, there's no word about it
19:34.44vader-Any of you guys deal with 8x8?
19:34.49hexanolbut indeed there would be a different way to retrieve the information I'm looking for but it would ask for extra bookeeping in the application
19:35.06hexanol*the external application that is
19:35.42TazzNZvader-, that is a vary opened ended question
19:36.06vader-im just trying to find out any pricing type info
19:36.11vader-their website has nothing unless you contact them
19:36.23vader-so i contacted them and didn't get any info there without reaching out to another person, etc
19:36.30vader-so i was looking at reselling cloud pbx services
19:36.40TazzNZhexanol, perhaps one of the dev's can help you out - it might pay to try and get them to respond here :)
19:37.03TazzNZvader-, you in the wrong channel for that :)
19:37.21TazzNZunless one of their employees hang out here
19:37.36vader-there are plenty of Telephony guys in here that deal with things other than Aserisk
19:37.41vader-was just hopign to get lucky and find one
19:37.56TazzNZtotally agree :)
19:37.57BigKristoffTazzNZ th for reply. I did not. I will try that tomorow when i get bac to the office. But i think that asterisk can see them becacuse they still works in DTMM menu
19:39.36mjordanTazzNZ: We watch this channel.
19:39.39mjordanshrugs
19:40.06mjordanFrankly, I can't recall why that information isn't always available. I suspect that with the more strict model of channel lifetime that occurs in 13, it's possible that the ordering changed and we didn't realize it.
19:40.08pjensen00I wonder if the NSA watches this channel.....
19:40.18mjordanOr, we changed the ordering and we forgot to update UPGRADE, and it can't be fixed.
19:40.24mjordanWithout staring at app_queue for awhile, I'm not sure.
19:40.31TazzNZpjensen00, you know they do ! :)
19:40.34mjordanA bug report is fine, as that will make sure it gets tracked in some form or another.
19:41.06TazzNZthere you go hexanol :)
19:41.19pjensen00"Tell J and K to go out there and hunt some bugs instead of watching us"
19:43.31TazzNZyeah mjordan - I know you watch it, but you also have a 100 other things on :)
19:43.44hexanolmjordan: thanks you for your answer as always, I'll open a issue
19:43.52hexanol*thank
19:44.02mjordanhexanol: np
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19:59.36hexanolthere it is: https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-25187
19:59.47edwin_quijadaHi!
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20:01.40edwin_quijadahttp://pastebin.com/dmtbz4aK
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22:08.54rsdvdhello All - back with another call for help - our ISDN config has broken again. We had outbound calls working fine - then we installed a config module in completePBX and they stopped working
22:09.13rsdvdI need a hand checking what it broke because it all looks fine to me
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22:21.48busymindCould someone please help me understand priority orders in Asterisk?
22:22.48[TK]D-Fender~ask
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22:25.42busymindso inside of context priorities, you can either use 1,2,3,4 etc, or 1,n,n,n etc. I get that, but how can you insert a new step inside of a context without it overwriting the "n".
22:26.30busymindfor example, if I have 1,n,n,n in my context, and I want to specify an include like FreePBX does, and then inside of that include I put, say, 2, right now it overwrites the second N
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22:32.42[TK]D-Fendern = next
22:32.57busymindi know that
22:32.59[TK]D-FenderIt follows whichever was immediately BEFORE it
22:33.10[TK]D-FenderSo if there is hard numbering ... then there is hard numbering
22:33.26busymindbut Asterisk replaces the n with the number in RAM, right?
22:33.34[TK]D-FenderNo.
22:33.40[TK]D-FenderIt loads from the file in order
22:33.51[TK]D-Fendernot just "from ram"
22:33.53[TK]D-Fenderfrom LOAD
22:34.06[TK]D-FenderBecause once loaded into ram everything has already been converted to "hard numbered'
22:34.06busymindokay, well, how can I insert a string inside of a context from a different file?
22:34.13busymindi see
22:34.29[TK]D-FenderYou don't "insert"
22:34.36[TK]D-FenderThere is no such thing as "insert"
22:35.00[TK]D-FenderAll you have is what's merged in via include's, and duplicate context entries
22:35.27busymindah, okay, that makes sense
22:35.33[TK]D-FenderWhich on Freepbx means using that overrides config, not just the "custom"
22:35.36[TK]D-Fenderbased on load order
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22:35.57[TK]D-Fenderbecause repeats tend to get ignored
22:36.43busyminddoes the override config in freepbx merge with the custom contexts? or does it get prepended to them?
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22:39.11[TK]D-Fenderit get's FORCED where you put it and the generated stuff becomes the ignored duplicates
22:39.51busymindah, so there really is no way to gently insert a few lines? I have to write the entire context as I want it in the extensions_custom?
22:40.01[TK]D-Fender<[TK]D-Fender> There is no such thing as "insert"
22:40.26[TK]D-FenderYou have to override explicit priorities
22:42.43[TK]D-Fenderit loads the override then the original
22:42.47[TK]D-Fenderduplicates get dropped
22:43.11[TK]D-FenderSo if you replace prioirty 1, then the rest should resume
22:44.38busymindokay, but how can you replace priority 1 and 2, but still keep the originals?
22:44.59busymindmaybe re-prioritize them to 3,4?
22:45.03[TK]D-Fenderthe originals will parse their sequence and one by one get dropped
22:45.20[TK]D-FenderIf you make #2 then ONLY #2 gets replaced
22:45.47[TK]D-FenderThere is no reprioritizing.
22:46.28[TK]D-Fenderheads out for the evening....
22:46.59busymindokay
22:47.03busymindthank you :)
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