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01:01.11g-maurizihow can I place a call from a terminal? I need to write a script on an external machine that issues a command over SSH to place an outgoing call? It seems the command should be "console dial" but this doesnt work?
01:02.54g-maurizi'originate' gives a command not found.
01:25.10g-maurizi"channel originate SIP/VoIPms/15554443333 application playback hello-world" should work but does not, any help is much appreciated.
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01:40.09ChannelZdefine "doesn't work"
01:45.17g-mauriziI'm trying to place a call from my asterisk/freepbx machine to an outbound number with a specific CID, I don't care about the audio at all.
01:45.24g-maurizithis is an alarm system trigger.
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01:46.42g-mauriziI'd prefer to just simple make the call using asterisk -rx "something", I don't want to have to fudge around and create an application or dialplan or extension if possible. but it seems some of the stuff needed to do that has been removed from asterisk.
01:47.09g-mauriziI'm looking into placing a .call file in /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing now.
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01:57.43TazzNZg-maurizi: why don't you just make a call file ?
01:57.51TazzNZoh - yeah - what you said
01:59.52g-mauriziTazzNZ: as far as I can tell a call file first calls the extension in the 'context' and then when that extension is answered, proceeds to connect the call using "channel", I don't want an internal extension to ring nor do I want to create a dialplan or appliation with "extension XXX" that I put in the call file.. I just want to use asterisk -rx "something" to directly dial an outside number
01:59.52g-mauriziwith a specific CID
02:00.56g-mauriziI'm not learned enough to create an application living at "extension" that runs from the call file when the outbound number is dialed.
02:01.02TazzNZnope - you can make it "dial" the number directly
02:01.08TazzNZlet me dig up an example
02:01.12g-maurizireally? Ty so much.
02:01.23TazzNZgive me 10 mins thou
02:01.26g-maurizino prob
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02:27.33TazzNZg-maurizi: back now
02:29.04TazzNZg-maurizi: shall I PM you the file ?
02:29.17TazzNZI might trigger the channel flood limits
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02:39.48g-mauriziYes please!
02:40.06g-mauriziI'm now working on a custom app, but I could really use an example. :)
02:49.50[TK]D-Fenderg-maurizi> TazzNZ: as far as I can tell a call file first calls the extension in the 'context' and then when that extension is answered, proceeds to connect the call using "channel", I don't want an internal extension to ring nor do I want to create a dialplan or appliation with "extension XXX" that I put in the call file.. I just want to use asterisk -rx "something" to directly dial an outside number
02:49.54[TK]D-Fenderg-maurizi, that's backwards
02:50.29[TK]D-Fenderg-maurizi, * calls the Channel: and when it answers it gets dumped into the dialplan where you tell it to (unless you specify "Application"
02:56.06g-mauriziWell, I figured out a way to get it to work either way -- I have the call file set with the extension of an application that plays a wav file that says "a security event has been detected", and the channel is SIP/trunkname/externalnumber
02:56.18g-mauriziif there's a more elegant way to do this I'm very open to the help!
02:57.26[TK]D-Fenderhow much more elegant do you need?
02:57.32[TK]D-FenderSingle command that does just that.....
02:58.28g-mauriziSorry I am confused as that's not a single command, that's a file I have to copy to a directory that gets executed within a timespan like a cron-job.. did you mean that * is itself an asterisk cli command?
02:59.41[TK]D-Fenderthere are like 4 different ways to do this
02:59.43[TK]D-Fendercall file
02:59.56[TK]D-FenderAMI / CLI originate
03:00.33[TK]D-FenderThe whatever that AJAM method was
03:00.45[TK]D-Fender(which is still kinda AMI)
03:02.53g-mauriziTy! it sounds like cli originate could work but is pretty involved to get the correct syntax and understand it's operation. I may go that route. I think this isn't a bad route as I can further program the extension/custom app to require keypress confirmation from the called party. :)
03:04.05[TK]D-Fenderinvolved to get the syntax?
03:04.07[TK]D-Fender* TELLS you
03:04.22[TK]D-Fender"core show help channel originate"
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03:05.18g-mauriziOriginate is meant for a channel in progress based on core show help channel originate.
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03:06.12KattyFender bender
03:07.23[TK]D-FenderKatty, Mew.
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03:24.06phixAfternoon!
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04:28.48Drumitarfollowed this tutorail to setup corosync https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Corosync, i notice though when in the asterisk commandline if i do module show like, there is no res_corosync.so module , any help would be great !
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05:03.37flingI'm about to install asterisk into an lxc container. Unfortunately it will be running behind the nat in this case (for some sip peers). Are there much cons for this design?
05:03.50flingI'm also planning to use usb dongles…
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10:14.08jkroonWIMPy, btw, have you managed to figure out the recording format for voicemail files in odbc?
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13:04.25WIMPyjkroon: I wouldn't dare to add additional databases.
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13:05.57jkroonhaha, no, what i mean is i want to download the prompts and convert them to mp3, but there does not seem to be any indication as to the recorded format ...
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13:40.31kannanhello, i request any recommendation for a reliable T1 PRI provider in Detroit, MI, USA area
13:44.35maddawg2hey all, kinda new to the whole asterisk thing.. and kinda new to setting up my own PBX from scratch. I'm working at a company that currently uses an ancient AVAYA system with a PRI for service.  We recently moved from using T1 lines for data to using Comcast Cable.  Our business needs didn't warrant the expense of a T1 line for data
13:44.46maddawg2the only thing it provided us was an SLA that we can do without
13:45.10maddawg2so we've upgraded to a 150mbps down and 20mbps up from the GIANT comcast corporation
13:45.31maddawg2and i am hoping to set up an asterisk box that would replace our current phone system and want to use VoIP
13:45.45maddawg2however I am seeing so much information regarding SIP trunking
13:45.48maddawg2and VoIP
13:45.55maddawg2and kinda confused
13:46.09maddawg2because I've found carriers that sell VoIP service as well as SIP Trunkings
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13:46.19maddawg2and Im a bit puzzled as to the difference
13:46.36maddawg2since i thought SIP was a protocol while VoIP was really just a method of connecting
13:46.46[TK]D-Fenderkannan: Nothing about PRI is supposed to be "unreliable"
13:46.52[TK]D-Fenderkannan: It's TDM....
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13:47.43kannani meant a company thats well reputed and not going to go out of business one day soon, type of reliable , [TK]D-fender
13:47.46[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2because I've found carriers that sell VoIP service as well as SIP Trunkings <- SIP is a VoIP PROTOCOL.
13:47.55[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2: So taht is redundent
13:48.38maddawg2i know
13:48.41maddawg2hence the confusion
13:49.18kannanany one has experience with Clear Rate Communications for T1 PRIs?
13:50.20[TK]D-FenderVoIP is a concept.  SIP is an implementation.
13:50.43maddawg2so basically what I am looking for a is a SIP provider
13:50.57[TK]D-FenderThat's the usualy protocol of choice
13:51.00[TK]D-Fender~itsp
13:51.07infobot[~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet Telephony Service Provider (or VoIP telephone company). They allow you to either SEND calls to the PSTN (this is called termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs.
13:51.08[TK]D-Fender^^^
13:51.11maddawg2i was just confused why they have VoIP services and a seperate thing for SIP services
13:51.20maddawg2I think maybe VoIP must be a hosted thing
13:51.35[TK]D-FenderI'd probably re-read whatever you saw there again...
13:52.09maddawg2~itsplist-us
13:52.09infobotHere are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones: http://www.broadvoice.com, http://www.jnctn.com, http://www.sipstation.com, http://vitelity.net, http://voip.ms and http://flowroute.com
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13:55.31maddawg2i was looking at SIP.US as well seems pretty cool... tho trying to understand the difference between SIP Trunks and SIP Channels
13:55.40maddawg2most sites i've seen just sell "Trunks"
13:55.58filenothing is different, except billing probably
13:56.32filesome providers sell channels where it's actually X number of simultaneous channels, unlimited calling (to an area) for each
13:56.40[TK]D-FenderThe terms are used largely interchangeably
13:56.49[TK]D-FenderLook at what the service actually includes.
13:56.56fileyeah, marketing marketing marketing
14:06.34jzu_hmm, seems like OnePipe forwards all calls, hence all incoming calls show as forwarded
14:06.41jzu_wonder if there's anything I could do about it
14:09.17maddawg2also one oter question....  if a DiD calls to an outside phone it always shows as coming from the main number
14:09.28maddawg2what would i need to do to get the DiD to pass through on caller ID
14:09.36maddawg2is that a feature my SIP provider needs to do ?
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14:11.01avbthats weird asterisk MuteAudio seems not working :-/
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15:45.06jzu_[2015-04-13 17:24:53] NOTICE[16131][C-0000015a] channel.c: Dropping incompatible voice frame on SIP/didww.sip.1pipe.com-0000016e of format g722 since our native format has changed to (ulaw)
15:45.10jzu_hmm
15:46.17jzu_mehh, seems like I have way too much trouble getting OnePipe to work
15:48.25[TK]D-Fenderor perhaps you should just settle on ulaw
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15:51.26jzu_hehe, yeah :)
15:51.40jzu_wonder why OnePipe sends CallerID with two ++'s: "CallerIDNum: ++358407007600"
15:51.54jzu_and every call they deliver is forwarded
15:55.24[TK]D-FenderGo strip them
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16:29.40aruntomarwhen using asterisk 11.0+dahdi+pri, we used to receive messages like “please check the number you’ve dialed”. After upgrading to asterisk 13, we get only ringtone. hence, it becomes very difficult to identify whether it’s a wrong number or that someone is not picking up the call. has anyone else faced this issue. just fyi, the config files are the same.
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16:32.36RPerreHi. How can I add SIP URI vars on/before Dial command on dialplan? thanks
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16:35.58Xadofaruntomar: I'm unaware of what config changes may have been made to cause this or if there's an existing bug open for that, since I am still on Asterisk 11, however make sure that when upgrading between major versions (11 to 12, 12 to 13, 11 to 13) that you read the UPGRADE-X.txt files in the source root (I think they're online somewhere).  They should list all changes that are not backwards
16:35.58Xadofcompatible.  So, you would need to look at those files for changes to your channel driver's (DAHDI's) config file regarding early media.  It would probably say that some setting you use is depreciated in favor of another setting, that the default setting has changed (ie default yes becoming default no, and you don't have it set) or that the required value has changed
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16:39.40aruntomarXadof: before upgrading, i had looked at the release and upgrade txt files. we were quiet happy with 11.x series. but then we wanted to use ARI, hence, had to upgrade it.
16:41.36Xadofaruntomar:  I've no knowledge of Dahdi, I was just referencing those files in case you were unaware of them.  But just to make sure you know, you would have to read both UPGRADE-12.txt and UPGRADE-13.txt, one for each bump up.  They aren't redundant
16:41.50aruntomarAlso, ther is another weird thing we noticed. when i call a phone. and the endpoint, disconnects/rejects the call, ideally, we should get an immediate hangup event on the server as well as caller. but it keeps ringing for another 15-20 sec and then gives a 408 status.
16:43.56Xadofaruntomar:  the ringing for 15-20 seconds is going to happen while the called end is playing back early media to you.  The termination will only hit you after early media playback is complete.  Chances are that you're receiving early media and that asterisk is converting it to ringing, for example if you use the "r" option in Dial
16:45.26aruntomarXadof: we don’t use ‘r’ option in dial.
16:45.28Xadofaruntomar:  just to be clear, when I say that the termination will only hit after early media playback is complete, I mean that is the general functionality of the endpoint that is sending you early media, not that asterisk is doing that.   The only problem seeems to be that the early media is not being played to your local endpoints (ie agents, customers), and so they can not determine that
16:45.28Xadofthe call-in-progress has already failed from the message you are used to hearing
16:45.59Xadofaruntomar:  I said for example.  Because I already referenced that I don't use/know dahdi, and that I don't use/know asterisk 12 or 13.
16:46.29Xadofaruntomar: note that I'm not an op in this channel.  I'm also not an asterisk dev or contributor.  I'm only trying to assist as best as I can.
16:46.35aruntomarXadof: that’s ok, i was just clarifying. i appreciate the help and brainstorming.
16:47.16aruntomarXadof: sometimes a different perspective is required, when we are too deep inside our own setup, it’s difficult to see things differently.
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16:49.07aruntomari think, what i need to do is pass the telco messages directly to the endpoint.
16:49.57aruntomarand from the links on the internet, i read that setting ‘priindication=outofband’ in chan_dahdi should do that. but it doesn’t work.
16:56.33Xadofaruntomar:  from briefly reading about it, it seems to me that it's not referencing whether or not to pass the indications between the remote and local endpoints, but rather whether to do so out of band or inband.   Although I don't know the channel tech, my initial thoughts are that you would want it to be in band, so that your local endpoints can hear the audio, but it may have nothing to
16:56.33Xadofdo with audio.   My asterisk 11 chan_dahdi.conf.sample says that that setting can't be changed without a full core restart, but I see a resolved bug report suggesting that that may be fixed (or maybe they just made it persist, since the bug report was that the setting was being dropped upon reload).  So if you haven't restarted since making changes to that setting, it may be worth a try if
16:56.34Xadofyou've no channels active.
16:57.03Xadofaruntomar: I'm going away until this evening, but good luck
16:57.47aruntomarXadof: thanks for the help.
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17:24.45twitchnlnMorning, anyone ever seen delayed voicemails?  I have a box that intermittently is not having VMs show up in VMB when called until days later.
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17:41.04TazzNZtwitchnln: Asterisk version ?
17:41.22TazzNZalso some box stats would be great, along with more details on your setup
17:41.24TazzNZlike load etc
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17:46.33pankidCan I setup writing my cdr to a network mysql along with the local sql without setting up odbc?
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18:00.49maddawg2question: if i plan to use my asterisk server over the internet without a T1 card installed do I need DAHDI and LibPRI?
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18:01.16[TK]D-FenderMeetMe still requires it.
18:01.24[TK]D-FenderThat's about all as of current versions of *
18:01.38[TK]D-FenderThen again ConfBridge as evolved past it at this point.
18:02.28maddawg2was that directed to me?
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18:09.32[TK]D-Fenderyes
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18:11.14maddawg2so is ConfBridge a replacement for MeetMe then?
18:12.00fileyes
18:12.32sweets_i have an * 11 application that is mainly an IVR, which will eventually transfer the caller via DIAL() to a final destination....i would like to keep track of why the call terminated inside the IVR (Before the DIAL() is issued)...i've tried using HANGUPCAUSE() but it doesn't seem to always work
18:12.56sweets_any thoughts? is the h extension the best approach? or using the new hangup handlers interface?
18:13.17[TK]D-Fendersweets_: if you are going to hit a Dial ... the call hasn't terminated.
18:13.33[TK]D-Fendersweets_: Or are you simply referring to things that aren't going to happen?
18:13.34sweets_[TK]D-Fender: but the call has been answered inside the IVR
18:13.48sweets_it just hasn't been bridged to an external user yet
18:14.03[TK]D-Fenderh works fine.  Typically you run IVR's in their own context so that works....
18:14.29[TK]D-FenderHangup handlers also work... but not sure if you can CLEAR one if it DOES continue past a certain point
18:14.39[TK]D-Fender"h" sounds to be the safest
18:15.16sweets_thanks, i'll stick with the 'h' approach
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19:17.31eppigyHello
19:17.33eppigyI am Dave
19:18.03tuxd00dHello Dave.
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19:20.33robmalAffirmative Dave, I read you.
19:23.55eppigyRoger that
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19:47.08djgermHello! I am trying to recompile asterisk from the ubuntu source (to get ilbc support), and I am getting an issue where pjproject library isn't found. Unknown value '@PBX_PJPROJECT@' found in build_tools/menuselect-deps for PJPROJECT
19:47.08djgermmenuselect/menuselect --check-deps menuselect.makeopts
19:47.09djgermNow, I am under the impression that pjproject is already included in the source, so I am a bit confused. Does anybody have any ideas of where to go from here?
19:48.07[TK]D-Fenderit isn't
19:48.11[TK]D-Fenderthe library is separate
19:49.18djgermhmm on here it says otherwise https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Building+and+Installing+pjproject
19:49.41djgermbut I trust you :) so I have installed the dependency from apt
19:50.24[TK]D-FenderFunny that page show rather specific places to download it from...
19:50.33[TK]D-FenderWouldn't need to do that if it were included, would you?
19:50.48djgermI meant "Asterisk 11 uses an embedded pjproject for the ICE, STUN and TURN libraries in its RTP engine for WebSockets support. Therefore you do not need to follow the instructions here for Asterisk 11."
19:51.28[TK]D-FenderAnd * 11 doesn't support chan_pjsip
19:51.33[TK]D-Fenderthat came in 12
19:52.09djgermhmm, i think i need pjproject for res-rtp-asterisk
19:52.11djgermI don
19:52.17djgermt think I need chan_pjsip.
19:52.41[TK]D-FenderThe libs are still required because of how they split up chan_sip for RTP, etc
19:53.07[TK]D-FenderDon't know the best terminology for the fine print but it's a dependency for parts of the code even if you're not using the channel driver
19:53.25djgermah. so if I just specify /usr/lib/libpj-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu.a as the lib, it should… work
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19:57.46fileno
19:57.49fileyou can not use .a
19:58.04djgermoh
19:58.05filestuff will not work in weird ways without shared libraries
19:59.19djgermoh uh…. any suggestions?
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19:59.49djgerm?
20:01.14maddawg2ok a bit confused when exactly do I need DAHDI... it says if i'm not intergrating any traditional telephony equipment
20:01.28maddawg2I'm guessing that me using IP based phones (Linksys SPA942)
20:01.32maddawg2doesnt qualify
20:02.47malcolmdDAHDI's required for app_meetme.  otherwise, you won't need it.  app_confbridge is a capable replacement for app_meetme that doesn't depend on DAHDI
20:03.39maddawg2ok good to know
20:03.52maddawg2also is there a GuI recommended for use with asterisk?
20:03.56maddawg2Asterisk 13 that is
20:04.19robmalmalcolmd: So if i'm moving all my conf stuff to confbridge i can dump dahdi? It's not needed anywhere else?
20:04.21[TK]D-FenderNot sure if any are "recommended".  BUt if you want one, FreePBX is the best free one around
20:04.27[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2: ^
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20:04.53[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2: Runner-ups are largely commercial
20:05.01malcolmdrobmal: correct.  modern versions of asterisk can provide their own timing, independent of dahdi.  DAHDI is a prerequisite for app_meetme though.
20:05.12maddawg2ok i did see freepbx that is a sperate Liux distro that has the tools built in correct?
20:05.15robmalGreat news!
20:05.30[TK]D-Fendermalcolmd: Was app_page switched off of MeetMe as a core?
20:05.37malcolmd[TK]D-Fender: yes
20:05.46[TK]D-Fender\o/
20:05.59malcolmdiirc the switch for app_page happened in 12.
20:06.02[TK]D-FenderSo basically.... MeetMe can just DIAF alone now :)
20:06.27[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2: bundles the OS, Asterisk, FreePB, and a few extra goodies
20:06.49malcolmdpretty much.  the old SLAStation and SLATrunk dial plan apps use app_meetme, but i don't think anyone uses those.
20:07.06[TK]D-Fendermalcolmd: We can use those as KINDLING ;)
20:07.21malcolmdindeed :D
20:07.25maddawg2bleh
20:07.36maddawg2i was hoping i could just throw it on my existing setup lol
20:08.16[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2: Pretty much nothing lets you do that.  No GUI should be expected to work around your manual "everything"
20:08.30[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2: Or were you refeering to your OS?
20:08.59maddawg2my OS
20:09.12[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2: FreePBX is a simple tarball to to that...
20:09.23[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2: they ALSO make an all-in-one Distro
20:09.38[TK]D-Fendermaddawg2: You'll still basically trash your * setup though
20:10.19maddawg2ok well i dont have a set up so that's ok
20:10.24maddawg2i havent even compiled it yet
20:10.37maddawg2i just already intalled ubuntu server 14.04LTS
20:10.51[TK]D-FenderFreePBX has guides for it
20:20.54djgermdang. specifying `make PJPROJECT_LIB=/usr/lib/libpj.so` didn't give me any errors, but also left me with an asterisk that won't start.
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20:28.50ectospasmI have an issue with VoiceMail(), voicemail.conf, and Asterisk 13.1-cert1.  Even though several mailboxes are set with delete=yes, the emails are not deleted, and the system default of 200 messages is reached.
20:29.50ectospasmTo my knowledge to voicemail to email feature is working
20:30.40[TK]D-Fenderheads home...
20:38.18ectospasmYeah, voicemail to email is working fine.
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21:18.45jodavis21Hello, I previously had Asterisk working with WebRTC. However, about a month ago the audio stopped working without throwing any errors. I was advised to update to the current Asterisk, so I have done that (11.17.1). I now see the error  "dtls_srtp_setup: Could not set policies when setting up DTLS-SRTP on '0x7f0e34023110' RTP Read error: Unspecified.  Hanging Up." I recreated the certs but no go. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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23:37.58djgermso… I had asterisk 11.7 running very smoothly and efficiently able to place thousands of near concurrent calls based on the stock apt-get install asterisk on ubuntu. However I needed to get ilbc support, and after some wrangling, I was able to compile 11.17.1 from source. Now, when I place a lot of calls (not even 500!) I am getting load upwards of 290, and calls start failing left and right.
23:38.45djgermDoes anybody have any ideas as to what to tune? It was quite efficient "out of the box" when installed from package after I just up'd my file limits.
23:40.30ctpdumphave you checked the codecs before and after?
23:40.38ctpdumpmaybe you're using some codecs now that are more cpu hungry
23:40.57ctpdumpalso, the load of 290 can be related to i/o wait, not necessarily high cpu usage
23:41.02djgermi am using only ilbc.
23:41.17ctpdumpah, and before what codecs were you using?
23:41.25djgermalaw/ulaw
23:41.33ctpdumphave a look to see how much cpu ilbc requires
23:42.03ctpdumpa/ulaw are reasonably uncompressed if I recall correctly so you weren't using much cpu prior
23:42.12djgermcore show translation?
23:42.47ctpdumpfrom: http://www.asteriskdocs.org/en/3rd_Edition/asterisk-book-html-chunk/asterisk-UnderstandingVoIP-SECT-3.html
23:42.50ctpdumpG.711 imposes minimal (almost zero) load on the CPU.
23:42.57ctpdumpBecause iLBC uses complex algorithms to achieve its high levels of compression, it has a fairly high CPU cost in Asterisk.
23:43.44ctpdumpI haven't used ilbc so I can't advise either way
23:43.49djgermhmmm
23:44.03djgermfascinating! thanks!
23:44.05ctpdumpbut I would think you may now have enough cpu power
23:44.20ctpdumphave a dig around and see if you find any calculators
23:44.31ctpdumplike x channels require x amount of cpu
23:44.41djgermk
23:44.57djgermyeah… being CPU bound nowadays…. well that's rare for me!
23:45.13ctpdumpI said the same thing initially :)
23:45.23ctpdumpcpus are so underused these days
23:45.51ctpdumpI have to leave, good luck
23:45.58djgermthanks!!
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