IRC log for #asterisk on 20150223

00:07.41sofltechTK: are you suggesting something like this? http://pastebin.com/giCyHgjP
00:11.57[TK]D-Fendersofltech, http://pastebin.com/rSHZhAYi
00:20.27sofltechTK: thanks for that, I think I understand, the local channel that initiated the call is where the answered caller will get dumped and that's where I run my extended dial plan.  however, if they hang up in there, aren't I in the same situation (if they didn't confirm) that I don't know the status?
00:27.33[TK]D-Fenderno
00:27.45[TK]D-Fenderthere are TWO sets of diaplan
00:27.53[TK]D-Fenderthat is NOT where they get dumped.
00:27.58[TK]D-Fenderthat is the part that PLACES the call...
00:28.05[TK]D-Fenderwhere they dumped is a SECOND place
00:33.58sofltechok... I don't get and I'm not sure what I'm not understanding. I'm looking at your updated pastebin (thank you) and I don't see how I would restructure that to do what you're suggesting.
00:40.19[TK]D-Fenderloca channel has 2 lines
00:40.30[TK]D-Fenderthe dial and the userevent saying that nothing answered
00:40.53[TK]D-Fenderthe OTHER part is the same as you used to have doing whatever you were doing before
00:40.59[TK]D-Fenderplus a message saying "success
00:41.32[TK]D-FenderStop thinking of this is 1 piece of dialplan.
00:41.33[TK]D-FenderIT ISN"T
00:41.42[TK]D-FenderYou are doing an Originate
00:41.49[TK]D-Fenderyou call the CHANNEL: side.
00:41.59[TK]D-Fenderwhen that answers it gets dumped into the dilaplan where you tell it
00:42.08[TK]D-Fenderso your Channel: in this case will be MORE DIALPLAN
00:42.16[TK]D-Fenderbu att that does is the actual DIAL
00:42.36[TK]D-FenderBecause when that gets answered it gets bridged into the dialplan where the originate points to
00:42.59[TK]D-Fenderthat dialplan is just doing the dirty work instead of you saying "SIP/provider/number"
00:43.09[TK]D-Fenderit has LOGIC around it to do your ADADITIONAL stuff
00:43.14[TK]D-FenderADDITIONAL*
00:43.23[TK]D-FenderWhich in this case is 1 line
00:44.36sofltechTK: thanks, digesting.
00:46.02sofltechTK: yes, I got it, thank you so very much. however, this brings me back to my original concern.
00:46.41sofltechWhent he call gets bridged, the originate local channel dialplan will execute (got it)
00:47.02sofltechThat dialplan will have logic that requires the user to ack (press 1)
00:47.32sofltechIf the user in fact acks, a userevent(success) is generated.
00:48.37sofltechIf the user simply hangs up, no fail message?
00:49.06sofltechUnless a hangup will return them to the 2nd line after the DIAL command?
00:55.03sofltechI'll have a pastebin for you shortly, thanks
00:56.51sofltechTK: http://pastebin.com/ACpnFfVP is this on the right track?
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01:02.57KattyBoop.
01:03.09KattyBeepbeep
01:03.11filebop
01:03.14KattyWhrrrrr
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01:51.02[TK]D-Fender<sofltech> If the user simply hangs up, no fail message? <- on THAT end you'd deal with "h" to send a "end no answer" response
02:03.38Kattyhey fenderbender. howre you dear
02:08.14[TK]D-Fenderdoing alright.  Place is clean.  I should have guests over more than every other year! ;)
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02:49.36sofltechTK: thanks for that info, going to try it your way, much appreciate it.
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03:25.04sofltechTK: getting error ... unable to call channel local ... no such extension/context (i do have it) - where do i look for this?
03:25.23sofltechTK: to resovle this issue - if you can point me in the right direction... thanks.
03:26.49sofltechbasic code for extension...
03:26.50sofltechexten => alert,1,Noop(Alert notification)
03:26.50sofltechexten => alert,n,Playback(pressOneToAcknowledge)
03:26.50sofltechexten => alert,n,UserEvent(AlertStatus,Ack: confirmed)
03:26.57AnonGirlwin 74
03:27.02AnonGirlwhups
03:37.51sofltechnm, figured this one out...
03:40.42[TK]D-Fender"you don't" is the answer.
03:40.57[TK]D-FenderWhen it says "not found".... it doe mean it
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03:47.19sofltechtk: thanks, yep, had an extra character in there.
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07:04.47awkhttp://pastebin.com/kVXJpNSG
07:05.03awkPlease can somebody check that post...
07:05.07awkpresencestate  pri
07:05.07awkpbx01*CLI> pri show spans
07:05.07awkPRI span 1/0: Up, Active
07:05.07awkPRI span 2/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
07:05.07awkPRI span 3/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
07:05.09awkPRI span 4/0: In Alarm, Down, Active
07:05.23awkIt just says the number is not answering, but the call isn't going out.
07:16.11WIMPyApart from the fact that your caller ID isn't valid, it doesn't looke like you're talking to anything there.
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07:36.25awkExecuting [s@macro-dialout-trunk:22] Dial("SIP/1420-00000035", "DAHDI/g1/1023,300,Tt")   dialing 1023 via DAHDI g1 ?
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07:46.07cyfordawk  i dont know about pri, but i had a simular issue that turned out to be syntax errors causing trunks to fail without any  good errors
07:48.51r00fyou are not getting replies, all your pri messages are outgoing. it would be helpful to see debug from the other side, maybe asterisk thinks that messages are being sent but driver just drops them. or drops replies from other party (if any)
07:49.35r00factually i hate pri. so many debug efforts without easy tracing tools, like tcpdump for sip
07:57.25awkthats, let me try re-create this
07:57.30awkthats/thanks
08:04.01awkone thing, if I put on a debug and I call in, I get "no information"
08:04.09awkcould this mean there is a fault with the BRI
08:04.21awkwhy i ask, is that the other 2 BRI's are down, and last week it was flapping
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10:13.07WIMPyWell, if the line wasn't ok, it shouldn;t even try to send anything.
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10:13.33WIMPyBut I don't know what the reality looks like with dahdi and activating lower layers.
10:14.28WIMPyAnd r00f: That's Asterisk issues, really.
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10:15.22madduckwhat may be a reason that voicemailmain does not accept a mailbox password listed exactly like that in secret.conf in the mailbox dir?
10:15.57madduck<PROTECTED>
10:16.02WIMPyWhat secret.conf?
10:16.13madduckjugband:/srv/asterisk/spool/voicemail/madduck/2# grep password secret.conf
10:16.13madduckpassword = 2781
10:17.23WIMPyDid I miss simething? I have never seen that file.
10:17.46madduckit gets created if you set the password in voicemail.conf to the name of the box
10:18.24madduckpasswordlocation=spooldir
10:19.38WIMPyI see. Never tried that.
10:20.07WIMPyPermissions?
10:20.53madduck-rw-rw---- 1 asterisk asterisk    214 Feb 23 11:11 secret.conf
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14:10.04mookinsHi, does anyone know of a channel to talk about hardware related to Asterisk?
14:10.17[TK]D-FenderGenerally here.
14:12.18mookinsawesome. I want to run my Asterisk installation in a VM. I need to connect 4 PSTN provided by our telco so the system and I think a SIP to PSTN gateway is what I am after. Jus twondering if it is that straight forward or am I missing something?
14:12.52[TK]D-FenderNope, that's it
14:12.55mookinsI am really need to VoIP systems and am learning on the run. I got VoIP setup on a LAN and calling between soft phones working. Now looking to push it to real phone lines.
14:13.14mookins[TK]D-Fender: Any brands I should take a good look at, or avoid?
14:13.23mookinsI see quite a large price range with some of these units
14:13.40[TK]D-Fenderhttp://www.telephonydepot.com/Catalog/Analog-Gateways/AudioCodes-MediaPack-MP-114-FXO
14:14.50[TK]D-Fenderhttp://www.telephonydepot.com/Catalog/Analog-Gateways/Mediatrix-C730
14:15.09[TK]D-Fender2 reputable makes right there
14:15.28mookinsIs echo cancellation a big problem?
14:15.34[TK]D-FenderIt can be
14:15.50[TK]D-Fenderproper interfaces do a good job of dealing with it
14:16.32mookinsthat Mediatrix, $220USD, or $625 in Australia LOL
14:16.59[TK]D-Fenderyup, import tax is just stupid down under
14:18.10mookinsyeah and all the grubby little hands it passes through on its way here
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14:23.02mookinsordered the Audiocodecs
14:23.05mookinsthanks for the help :)
14:25.39[TK]D-FenderYou're welcome
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15:07.17babadoodoes asterisk remove a dot from the EXTEN variable f.e. in a call to firstname.lastname@someasterisk.net
15:07.38babadoois it bad practice to have a dot in peer descriptors?
15:09.46babadoomy problem is, that in the channel EXTEN becomes firstnamelastname instead of firstname.lastname
15:09.47[TK]D-FenderEXTEN != peer descriptor
15:10.20[TK]D-FenderShow us the call.
15:10.23[TK]D-Fender~pb
15:10.23infobotA "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
15:10.25[TK]D-Fender^^^
15:10.29[TK]D-Fender"sip set debug on"
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15:15.45yun1989hello
15:16.52yun1989when I exit a softphone in asterisk appeers extensions is connected in asterisk but in really it is not connected
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15:17.45yun1989how can you ensure that in fact the extension is on?
15:17.56[TK]D-Fender"on" is not a thing
15:18.26[TK]D-FenderIf your softphone doesn't UNREGISTER when it exits then there is not * can do except timeout on them.
15:19.03yun1989in session-expires ?
15:19.47yun1989which set up a time out session?
15:19.55[TK]D-FenderQUALIFY <------------
15:20.06[TK]D-Fenderthis is not a "session"
15:20.34[TK]D-FenderSet a low registration timeout, or wait till they fail a qualify timeout
15:22.34babadoo[TK]D-Fender: thanx for the hint to use the sip debug option. it helped me to see that its the voip client zoiper, which removes the dot. in linphone the setup works. does it make sense that the dot is removed? should i have only user names without dot?
15:23.11[TK]D-FenderClearly zoiper is doing it... perhaps a dialplan issue.  Or it just doesn't play nice.
15:23.38babadoois it better to have usernames without dots?
15:24.16[TK]D-Fenderbabadoo: You've already mixed up EXTEN vs USERNAME twice now... you should clarify this first....
15:24.17babadooi could not find something in the rfcs regarding that point. maybe i missed something.
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15:25.28Ice_StrikeAnyone know any good alaternative of Zoiper?
15:25.34Ice_StrikeLightweight
15:26.01babadoowhen a call arrives in the dialplan from the sip channel, i thought the EXTEN variable is showing the user part of the sip uri.
15:26.33[TK]D-Fenderyes.  Do not call that a USERNAME.
15:28.52babadooi have "friends" registered in sip.conf. so i would call them friends. of course i can dial them with their sip uri which has a user part. does it makes sense this way?
15:30.56[TK]D-Fenderbabadoo: No.
15:31.48[TK]D-Fenderbabadoo: You do not dial THEM.  You dial an EXTENSION.  This is dialplan.  Dialplan determines what happens when a call is placed.  By no means is there any automatic association between what you dial and some DEVICE definition.
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15:32.31[TK]D-Fenderbabadoo: I could have a dialplan that never ever leads to a call out to another device.
15:33.01Valduarehows it going [TK]D-Fender
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15:34.19[TK]D-Fenderbabadoo: And almost everyone uses numeric extensions only.  Many use mixed alpha device names.  so I may have a [john] in sip.conf with that as a username .... but nobody is dialing "john" on a phone to call them.  They have NUMBERED extens leading to dialing actual devices./
15:36.04Valduarecan you add smiley faces to extens  might help fight a case of the “mondays” if you have to dial “smiley face - extension”
15:36.16babadoo[TK]D-Fender: i understand. i allready use numeric extensions on which users can sign on with a hotdesk dialplan. But i wanted to let the users be able to call each other by "firstname.lastname@myasterisk.net"
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15:36.47babadooof course only IF they have a client with alphnumeric input
15:36.49cyfordIce_Strike   i use x-lite,   good if u only need 1 line
15:36.50[TK]D-Fenderthat's a LOT of crap to dial vs "100"
15:37.09[TK]D-FenderAnd the fact of using a shitty soft-phone.
15:37.12babadooits better to rememeber
15:37.28Ice_StrikeFor some reason, it is getting delayed to hear myself until I see "Unknown RTP codec 126 received from ..."
15:37.32[TK]D-FenderWhat, they don't have a speed-dial list?
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15:39.17cyfordlol interesting,  i get that too from zoiper  mobile client..  but it still works
15:41.16cyfordare you using zoiper on windows phone or tablet Ice_Strike?
15:41.53Ice_Strikewindows phone
15:42.41Ice_StrikeI cant hear antthing until I see:  Unknown RTP codec 126 received from
15:42.52Ice_StrikeWhat is causing this?
15:42.57cyfordthe latest update has a fix for zoper codecs,
15:43.40cyfordbefore u can set codecs in zoiper and it wouldnt really work,     the update repaired that
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15:44.25cyfordand zoiper for windows phone is new and combats alot of windows limitations,   there is no other softphone for it atm
15:44.31Ice_StrikeI meant windows
15:44.35Ice_Strikenot for windows phone
15:44.57cyfordohh, that chnges everything  lol
15:46.17cyfordbut  i still think zoiper is trying to use a unsupported codec before it uses the correct one
15:46.33cyfordtry removing all except ulaw
15:48.23Ice_Strikeok
15:48.43babadoo[TK]D-Fender: thank you for your hints. speed-dial is interesting. but nevertheless it would be nice to be able to call a "friend" directly by their registered user name. do you think this is bad practice?
15:49.51robmalbabadoo: What phones do you use?
15:50.15[TK]D-Fenderbabadoo: Naming them the same at all invites hack attempts.  GEnerally your SIP account names should be harder to guess or sniff.  Making them the same as what you dial is unnecessary exposure.
15:50.28[TK]D-Fenderbabadoo: Generally bad policy
15:51.27cyfordhmm,  i want hack babadoo..   lets try that username first ...
15:51.29babadoook, if you tell me that all kind of evil will come from this, i will of course stick to another scheme.
15:52.08babadoonice try, cyford, but its babadoo.asterisknoob
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15:53.10cyfordwell asterisk is a given,   and if that works noob  would be the next step lol   jkin
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16:30.11RadJacksonHello ive got a problem concerning Playback cmd , when ive got less than 50 simultenous calls , it works , once it surpasses certain number , like 100/200 , it starts to fail (WARNING[9109][C-0000025e]: app_playback.c:493 playback_exec: Playback failed o) , my file is WAV format.
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16:37.42mjordanRadJackson: show the entire call leading up to that point.
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17:01.40h8hi everyone
17:01.47h8does anyone run asterisk 11 and pfsense 2.2?
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17:20.04WIMPyh8: Do you?
17:20.30jeevi run them both but not anywhere near eachother
17:23.10h8yeah stupid question, asterisk behind pfsense, that is
17:23.48cyfordasterisk in dmz or bypass
17:24.54cyfordi ran it behind untangle..  bypassed filters and gave it priotiy in QoS
17:27.49h8registration works, incoming call deosn't, as in, it doesn't get to the context, this is the debug: http://pastebin.com/xUHvjuK8 can anyone advise on what am i pucking up here?
17:28.19h8I can see the incoming call in debug, but it doesn't show me anything of the likes of "call failed because there's no such context"
17:29.51h8I do see SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized tho
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17:37.16h8ah nvm, figured it out, puck you insecure=very
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17:59.10h8is there a solution to show the caller id if a call is forwarded?
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18:57.34h8is there a solution to show the caller id if a call is forwarded? (sorry for double post)
18:59.36fileI don't understand the question.
19:01.42robmalSomeone outside PBX calls some ext. The ext dosn't answer so it goes to the users cell no. By default - the call on the cell is presented with the outgoing trunk number. Can this behaviour be changed?
19:04.20fileAsterisk does not implicitly enforce that behavior. It's up to either the dialplan logic in use, or the underlying technology/provider of the outgoing call.
19:05.10robmalThank you, that's the answer i was hoping for.
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19:30.03babadoowhich voip clients play nice with video codecs of asterisk? i see linphone f.e. has VP8, which i cannot use in vanilla asterisk.
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19:49.25[TK]D-Fenderbabadoo: * never transcodes and only really passes through H.264, H.263, and H.263p
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19:50.54babadooso linphone uses vp8 and theora. ekiga uses theora and h261.
19:51.13babadoothen i could only use ekiga.
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19:52.04babadoowhat abouth261?
19:55.33babadoooh i see linphone has H.263 and  H.264
19:56.59[TK]D-Fenderhttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+video
19:57.03[TK]D-Fenderyes, 261 as well
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22:43.32mookinsHi, just a quick question about IP phones and what not. Things like directory services, showing current line status, etc, are those all outside the scope of standard protocols and are provided by vendor specific and/or custom programmed interfaces? Or are there standards for these types of services that exist.
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22:45.49robmalmookins: Provider specific address books, sorry. Also - at all cost avoid OpenStage by Siemens.
22:48.47[TK]D-Fendermookins, Address-books depends on the phones.  There is no fixed standard
22:49.10[TK]D-Fendermookins, Line status = Presence.  Asterisk already supports this
22:50.04robmal[TK]D-Fender: I feel somewhat ignored here, do i get bonus points for [] in my nickname? ;-)
22:52.45[TK]D-FenderNot sure what you mean....
22:53.40mookinsThanks. Clears that up. I already avoid Siemens with regard to our industrial systems, don't need to tell me twice to convince me to skip over them in telephony too.
22:54.43robmal[TK]D-Fender: Our answers our usally simillar but somehow mine go unnoticed. I'd like to know why, if you're some asterisk guru - great. Otherwise - why? ;-)
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22:54.59robmalOur answers are*
22:55.29rolerDoes asterisk support RNIE? Looking to transfer external caller phone number to a forwarded number when they aren't at their desk.
22:56.31[TK]D-Fenderrobmal, He didn't answer me before you seemed oto think I hadn't been.
22:58.04[TK]D-Fenderrobmal, Our answers in this case were quite diferent
22:59.14robmalPlease explain.
22:59.50robmalI like to be wrong as long someone explains to me why.
23:00.04[TK]D-Fender"Provider specific address books, sorry" <- What does sorry mean here?  Too vague>  You're aplogizing for addressbooks?  Doesn't answer if there is a standard.  Doesn't say if there is any option at all let alone how they are handled
23:00.37[TK]D-FenderAnd I answered his presense question which you didn't
23:00.50[TK]D-FenderSo what I said and what you said are 2 very different things
23:01.34[TK]D-FenderWas that "Sorry" as in you're saying you don't know?  As I said, that could mean almost anything.
23:01.44robmalOk, i stand corrected. Thank you.
23:02.22robmalSorry ment it's not that easy as you would expect it to be.
23:03.08[TK]D-FenderThat wording did not really convery a meaningful answer
23:04.20robmalYou're right.
23:05.40[TK]D-FenderYou can be "sorry, I don't know" (confirm you don't have the answer),   or "sorry you are having trouble" (condolences with no advice added), or "sorry, what you were hoping exist does not exist".
23:06.02[TK]D-Fenderdusts off his Grammar Rangers suit...
23:08.32robmalCan we make it a BOFH answer class? I know i lost, but i didn't even start fighting.
23:08.46robmalLet's go with 1.
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23:12.21[TK]D-FenderHe'll take door #1 Bob!
23:12.25[TK]D-FenderWINNER!
23:12.46[TK]D-Fender\o/
23:13.42robmalIf i could switch - i would.
23:14.17[TK]D-FenderFrom what to what?
23:14.39mookinshahaha
23:14.45mookinsgimme the cleaver
23:14.56[TK]D-FenderDoor #2?  There be lions behind said door!
23:15.08[TK]D-Fendergrawr
23:15.37robmalI was looking for universal address book :-(
23:16.55robmalI'm making a web interface for AB for polycoms and i'd like to make it available for other phones.
23:17.14robmalEXCEPT OpenStage.
23:17.57[TK]D-FenderPolycom support 2 immediate forms.  #1: Local text file and #2: LDAP
23:18.08robmalMaking provisioning from SAIL to OpenStage was enough for this year.
23:18.09[TK]D-FenderWhat OTHER phones support... depends on them.
23:19.34robmalI'm adding a web interface for those text files. Also, our clients want a corporate addressbook not connected to LDAP. I don't know why, but that's not such a bad idea.
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23:21.59robmalI'll put it somewhere public once done, maybe it'll spin off to something useful.
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23:42.14rolerI am trying to setup caller id forwarding, that is RNIE or RDNIS - time warner says I need to pass a "redirect CID" along with the external caller id to get this feature to work... Does asterisk support this?
23:57.51[TK]D-FenderDepends on the formatting
23:58.11[TK]D-FenderUYou'll have to gt a proper description from them as to EXACTLY which headers they are expecting

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