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01:00.58Valduarehi guys
01:01.14Valduarecan I use asterisk with a google voice number
01:27.10PenguinYes.
01:30.05Valduarevery interesting.
01:30.33Penguinhttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Calling+using+Google
01:30.56ValduareI still dont know too much about what asterisk is exactly, but it sounds like i could have google voice for my buisness number and with asterisk collecting and handling all the call routing - I could route calls to sales rep’s cell phones?
01:31.18PenguinPotentially.
01:31.41Valduareisnt gv dropping xmpp er did already?
01:31.46Valduarejust reading through the link you gave me
01:31.54PenguinThey never said they were.
01:31.58PenguinThey said they were dropping "support" for it.
01:32.12PenguinIt's currently still working.
01:32.27Valduarewell thats ambiguous lol
01:32.42Valduaredidnt know I could ever call up google and have them give me support for anything :P
01:32.56PenguinWhy?  They stopped giving support for their xmpp channel.  It seems clear to me.
01:33.15PenguinWell, commercial support isn't the same as end user support.
01:33.19Valduarewhat are my options if I get this all setup and next week the connections stop working
01:33.32PenguinChange to a real ITSP.
01:33.54ValduareI beleive I am able to port gv number out to another carrier
01:34.03PenguinYou can.
01:34.17Valduarevery interesting
01:34.29PenguinI haven't done it personally, so I only know the procedure from the documentation.
01:34.35Valduareok
01:34.47Valduareand then about routing calls to cell phones etc
01:34.52Valduareis it complicated?
01:34.58PenguinTime to learn asterisk.
01:35.00Penguin~book
01:35.00infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
01:35.36PenguinIt's not really that complicated, but if all you know how to do is plug a phone wire into a jack and dial numbers, it might be a little intimidating.
01:35.39Valduarepoking around learning the capabilities before im nose in a book about the technical details .
01:36.28ValduareI havnt played with pbx or come across it ever - but I run servers for everything else i need.
01:36.45PenguinDo you use vim to configure services?
01:37.01ValduareI have but perfer nano
01:37.39PenguinDoes nano provide coloring for syntax?
01:37.56Valduaremine dosnt but I imagine it could.
01:38.27PenguinI recommend vim with syntax on.  It makes configuring the asterisk files pretty simple.
01:40.28PenguinYou can do it all in black and white, but the coloring makes things more clear to me.
01:42.16Valduarei’ll check it out some time.
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09:04.54PenguinThis seems new:  http://pastebin.centos.org/14241/59742114/
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09:12.02ChannelZHmm. I seem to remember having to install some xml lib when I compiled * 13, but I've never seen that stuff as runtime warnings
09:12.36PenguinIt showed up when restarting (core restart now).
09:12.45PenguinI never saw it before... or at least didn't notice it.
09:12.52WIMPyThat looks like after the upgrade that changed from one file to a dir full of files.
09:13.14WIMPyBut that must have been 1.4>1.6 or something.
09:15.15PenguinI'm wondering if I haven't seen it before because I never was on the console when asterisk started.  Typically I would start asterisk first and then connect.  I may not have restarted it from the CLI before now.
09:17.07PenguinI'll want to put in whatever it's complaining about, though, because if I see those warnings too often, they will bother me.
09:18.24ChannelZnot really seeing it here
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09:44.53Geek-LinuxHi All: I am using progress() application in my dialplan. from the telco side call hangs up. but when i use Answer() it works fine. Is there any parameter in sip.conf that i set and the call continues. I have achieved the goal in SS7 when i set can_connect=no and it sends ACM packet where the call continues. Any help would be highly appriciated.
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09:49.39WIMPyWe need more input. How are you connected to that telco?
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10:10.26Geek-LinuxWIMPy: I m connected to the telco over the sip.
10:13.12_omerHi, I have a SIP PEER that allows RTP on 3000 to 5000 port range. CAn I specify RTP port range to a specific SIP Peer?
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10:16.42Geek-LinuxWIMPy: Any luck ?
10:17.45WIMPyGeek-Linux: Doesn't look like you got the lucky version of SIP there.
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10:18.04WIMPyIsn't there a progressinband or something?
10:18.25WIMPy_omer: No. And you can only specify the local ports anyway.
10:18.43Geek-LinuxI have tried progressinband but still getting issue :(
10:22.17_omerWIMPy:  then what is the solution when other SIP Server is strictly listening on 3000 to 5000 RTP port range? Changing port range from RTP.Conf will affect on all the peers.
10:23.35WIMPyIt won't have any effect.
10:24.01WIMPyYou can't change the remote port. Everyone can only change their own ports.
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10:29.52_omerWIMPy: what is the solution then?
10:30.03WIMPyTo what?
10:32.48_omera SIP Server is strictly listening on 3000 to 5000 RTP port range. I cant change RTP port range from RTP.conf because it will affect on all the peers so what should I do then?
10:34.41WIMPyRead my answer.
10:35.14WIMPyYou don't change their ports. Never.
10:35.25WIMPyAsterisk sends to where they tell it to send to.
10:35.32WIMPyThere is nothing to be done.
10:37.38_omerso you mean to say, if I open asterisk port range from 3000 to 20000 then it will automatically select any port from 3000 to 5000 for this specific peer or what?
10:38.18Chainsaw_omer: As long as the remote end does not lie about its capabilities... the correct thing will happen.
10:39.04Chainsaw_omer: The remote end dictates the port for the outwards RTP stream.
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12:55.47aster1skGood morning, boos is asking for an 800 toll-free; I am looking for recommendations of suppliers.
12:56.02aster1sk*for suppliers
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13:12.50wdoekesaster1sk: perhaps you should state your region first. (not everyone lives in NA)
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13:51.32Mango45aster1sk: http://www.anveodirect.com/prices/tollfree
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14:17.43aster1skThank you, and yes Canada
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14:25.06hammamHello all
14:26.09hammamwe have a an Asterisk based PBX, we would like to integrate it with our CRM system. how can this be accomplished?
14:27.34[TK]D-Fenderhammam: "integrate" can mean anything including affixing them together via duct tape.
14:27.46[TK]D-Fenderhammam: You'll have to be more specific about what you actually want to accomplish
14:27.53aster1skI found the easiest solution is to cURL the CRM API any time there is an event on the PBX
14:28.19aster1skAnd for c2c use the Asterisk manager interface.
14:29.38hammamokay here's the requirement, Once a call is recieved the system will look up the telephone number from the database, if found the operator would be presented with he sored details of the caller
14:30.18aster1skIs it a propreitary CRM or something like Sugar / Tiger?
14:31.04hammamit's a custom made CRM
14:31.36hammambuilt using .net framework
14:31.49aster1skAhh so not web based then.
14:31.53hammamno
14:31.54[TK]D-Fenderhammam: It's your dialplan do whatever you want.  Go call a script when the call comes in and do your lookup and push the info to your user however you want
14:32.46aster1skThe reason I suggested cURL was I immediately assumed it was a web-based CRM.
14:32.48hammamany web resources covering the technicality of this?
14:32.54[TK]D-Fender~book
14:32.55infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
14:32.56[TK]D-Fender^^^
14:33.12[TK]D-FenderAGI is a common choice
14:33.24WIMPyhammam: It's your system. If it's custom I doubt you find anything you don't know, yet.
14:33.40[TK]D-FenderOr if you just need to do it based on the CallerID number, then just use SHELL so System and pass it as a parameter
14:34.03WIMPyThe Asterisk side is easy. Call whatever you want from your dialplan or listen on AMI for the wanted information.
14:34.58hammamcallerID will be sufficient
14:35.33[TK]D-Fenderhammam: So do a System() application call or SHELL() function call and pass the callerid to it
14:36.39hammamI'm quite new to Asterisk, I need go through the mentioned book above
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14:39.43hammamwhile searching the web, i came accross something called AMIConnector which is a .net library, but couldn't find the download link. can this be of any help?
14:40.17WIMPyProbably.
14:40.23[TK]D-Fenderpossibly
14:40.34[TK]D-Fenderbut I don't see a need for AMI here yet
14:40.48[TK]D-Fenderand that would be far more complex if it isn't necessary
14:41.24[TK]D-Fenderhammam: You need to learn how your system processes calls right now to see where you could just mod the dialplan to add your system call
14:41.25hammamI think a solution based on callerID would be suffecient
14:41.48[TK]D-Fenderhammam: We're discussing WHERE to hook in to do that
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14:42.13[TK]D-Fenderhammam: Yes you obviously need the callerid.
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14:43.16tomodachishould i use the ilbc codec  or g711 over the iax trunk between two pbxes?1 (phone on each side just support g711)
14:43.40tomodachithey usually call in to a conference room though so its not direct calls
14:44.00[TK]D-Fendertomodachi: Direct and conference don't mean anything here
14:44.23[TK]D-Fendertomodachi: If the phones are talking G.711 the translating to anything else only degrades your quality
14:44.29tomodachiwhat im thinking is that if its a can reinvite call ,then the phones will talk between themselves over our vpn hence not going over the trunk?!
14:45.03[TK]D-Fendertomodachi: Are your phones IAX as well?
14:45.05tomodachinope
14:45.12tomodachisip
14:45.13[TK]D-Fendertomodachi: There there is no reinvite
14:46.02[TK]D-Fendertomodachi: You can have an IAX call know there are 2 SIP ends and then somehow tell those 2 to connect
14:46.07[TK]D-Fendertomodachi: NOT happening.
14:46.23tomodachiok
14:46.41Penguincan have?
14:46.52[TK]D-Fendercan't*
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14:47.22tomodachiwhatabout if i have a conf room in one end where both phones on each pbx  call in to , no point in using g722 on the trunk itself?!
14:47.39tomodachieach phone again using g711
14:47.50[TK]D-Fender[09:44][TK]D-Fendertomodachi: If the phones are talking G.711 the translating to anything else only degrades your quality
14:48.06tomodachiOK, that makes it clear
14:48.07tomodachithxn
14:54.53hammamthank you all
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14:56.31alamihello, i have a new istall of asterisk 13 on centos 7, but i can't register with sip wsing softphone
14:56.50alamido i have to change firewall rules?
14:57.00tenspeed705Good morning folks. I am trying to enforce a password policy on an existing server. Our default mailboxes are 10 digit, and passwords are 4 digit...This is going to cause issues with using forcename and forcegreet options (probably wrong, and to lazy to look it up - you guys get the point). Any ideas as to how I can do this?
14:58.52[TK]D-Fender[09:56]alamido i have to change firewall rules? <- maybe.  Then again there could dozens of different reasons why it's not working.  Do you SEE packets arriving?
15:03.48WIMPyHmmm.
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15:11.11alami[TK]D-Fender: i run now tcpdump and i can see packet between the asterisk and the host with the softphone
15:12.03[TK]D-Fenderalami: "sip set debug on" <- what you should be doing from * CLI
15:12.17[TK]D-Fenderalami: Go see how the conversation is actually going
15:13.56alami[TK]D-Fender: that's the Problem, i have set debug on, but i asterisk CLI don't output anything
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15:14.30[TK]D-Fenderalami: Well if you see it in tcpdump, but not CLI, either you're debugging the wrong channel driver (chan_sip vs pjsip), or your firewall is blocking it
15:14.43[TK]D-Fenderalami: So the easy first step is to trash your firewall
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15:19.38alami[TK]D-Fender:so the firewall is now inactive, but still have the same issue, any idea where to continue?
15:20.19alamimodule show like chan_sip.so return 1 modules loaded
15:20.39tenspeed705alami: Just out of curiosity, as I have seen other users do this, is the softphone running on the same host as the PBX?
15:21.03alamitenspeed705: different subnet
15:22.06tenspeed705is the softphone is being a NAT firewall?
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15:22.11tenspeed705behind*
15:22.58alamitenspeed705: actually i have a more then asterisk, and the softphone can register with other * instance, only with the new one not
15:23.12alamiso the Problem is with the installations :-)
15:23.21alamiperhaps i have miss something
15:24.40tenspeed705alami: possible, but doubtful. If the sip drivers are running, and asterisk is running, I wouldn't say its install errors, sounds more config/network
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15:26.42tenspeed705do you have/can install ngrep on your Asterisk system?
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15:29.58alamitenspeed705: tcpdump do the samething or not?
15:30.35tenspeed705yeah. that would work. Can you put the output you got in a pastebin?
15:30.36[TK]D-Fenderalami: Go prove you've flushed the rules
15:31.06alamitenspeed705: that was my next idea :-)
15:31.27tenspeed705alami: Yeah, do what [TK]D-Fender says also. is this a hardware firewall, or just using iptables?
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15:32.33alamiofcourse, i have stop the firewall
15:33.19alamithat's only the centos default iptables, i don't have firewall between softphone and asterisk
15:34.07tenspeed705can you get us the output of the TCPDUMP and of iptables -nL
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15:37.44alamihttp://pastie.org/9758364 iptables -nL
15:39.27[TK]D-Fender[10:30][TK]D-Fenderalami: Go prove you've flushed the rules
15:39.42[TK]D-Fenderiptables --flush
15:39.43[TK]D-Fender^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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15:44.11alami[TK]D-Fender: so thanks it's was iptables, i tought with service iptables stop will do it
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15:54.06alami[TK]D-Fender: thansk a lot now works, do i have to iptables --flush each time the server restart?
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15:54.50Ibrahim22I have a question regarding ARI via websockets. Is it possible to connect to multiple applications with one websocket?
15:56.19[TK]D-Fenderalami: Chances are it loads that from somewhere... reconsider how you're running your firewall and learn what you have.
15:58.52fileIbrahim22, yes - separate the names with "," when connecting
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15:59.42Ibrahim22Ah, okay, thank you!
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16:15.05stefan27there's no chan_local.so anymore?
16:15.28filein 12+ it's part of the core
16:15.59stefan27queues.conf.sample in ast 13 says if you use Local channels as queue members, you must also preload pbx_config.so and chan_local.so
16:16.07stefan27What does this mean for me using asterisk 13?
16:16.25[TK]D-FenderIt means the sample config needs to be updated
16:16.25fileyou don't need to preload chan_local
16:16.36fileyeah
16:17.18stefan27Can preloading pbx_config.so ever be bad?
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16:26.47ChannelZSure, when you've jacked up your dialplan..
16:27.29ChannelZoh heh I read that as REloading not PRE
16:34.48alamion ubuntu after service asterisk start i can asterisk -r, on centos i get the Unable to connect to remote asterisk..
16:35.26[TK]D-Fenderhave you proven that * is running?
16:36.24alami<PROTECTED>
16:36.46[TK]D-FenderI mean REAL proof
16:37.14alamilsof -i ?
16:37.17[TK]D-Fenderps -A
16:37.25[TK]D-Fenderyour asterisk.conf also needs to be pointing to the right place for the PID file <----
16:37.28[TK]D-FenderGo verify this
16:40.28alami[TK]D-Fender: ps -A | grep asterisk return 18581 ?        00:00:00 safe_asterisk
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16:43.08alamiwich line in asterisk.conf do you mean?
16:43.42WIMPyFirst you need to get Asterisk started.
16:43.56alamiWIMPy: asterisk is started now
16:44.01alami12226 ?        00:00:01 asterisk
16:45.32WIMPyCheck permissions
16:46.47alamiWIMPy: can you specify
16:47.00alamiasterisk user have permissions
16:47.58WIMPyThe permissions of the socket and your user.
16:48.30alamiWIMPy: not help thanks
16:48.32alamihave a nice day
16:49.34dwayneIs their a relationship between Asterisk's qualifyfreq and a phone's register interval or does the register interval just need to fall between the minexpiry and maxexpiry?
16:49.56WIMPydwayne: The later.
16:50.22dwayneWIMPy, cool, thanks
16:52.11dwayneI am using 11.13.0 for SIP TLS/SRTP with Blink phones and I noticed that every other Blink registration attempt fails when the Blink registrar interval was equal to or less than the qualifyfreq
16:52.43dwaynes/registrar interval/register interval
16:53.06WIMPyIf you use tcp, there shouldn't be a need for re-registering, but I have no idea, what Asterisk thinks of that.
16:55.36dwayneOK.  One more question, if you don't mind.  I'm using the default minexpiry and maxexpiry and caching friends but I notice that a peer will sometimes drop out of the 'sip show peers' output for a few seconds, then re-appear; but calling the peer during the time that it drops out will still succeed.  Any idea what might cause that?
16:56.10dwayne(using real-time)
16:56.54WIMPyNo idea. I've got enough issues to battle without using realtime.
16:57.02dwayneI was thinking that maybe it was not in the 'sip show peers' output maybe during the time between my qualifyfreq (120) and register interval (180)
16:57.35WIMPyQualify is independant of anything.
16:57.37Qwellwoah, it's a dwayne
16:57.45dwayneQwell, hello sir :-)
16:57.55Qwelldwayne: we should lunch some time
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16:58.09dwayneYeah we should it would be cool to see you again
16:58.13WIMPyYou can even go and qualify some random IP you don't have an account with.
16:59.12dwaynefrom my observations, having the peer not displaying in the 'sip show peers' output is far different than having it show up as UNREACHABLE
16:59.21dwaynebut that may be an obvious statement :-/
17:00.00dwayneQwell, maybe towards the end of December when things quiet down a bit?
17:00.25Qwelldwayne: sure
17:00.28filemmm lunch
17:00.45dwayneoffers file some beans
17:00.55filedwayne, I have pinto bean chips
17:01.33Qwellfile: chips with pinto bean flavoring?
17:01.39fileQwell, no - they are made out of pinto beans
17:01.45QwellCanada, you're weird.
17:01.48filehttp://beanitos.com/#productPintoBean
17:02.12file"Product of the USA"
17:02.26dwaynemaybe we only sell them to Canadians
17:02.30coppicepinto beans? do they turn into a fireball when you hit them?
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17:03.03WIMPycoppice: No, after you're done digesting them :-)
17:03.16fileI want to try the Nacho Cheese White Bean ones but I don't know if they are carried here... will have to see
17:03.28SuperBawlzQuick question. Can I compile a module without recompiling all of asterisk?
17:03.54SuperBawlzMy cdr/mysql module didnt compile right.
17:03.56Penguinyes
17:03.56WIMPySuperBawlz: If you have the source of YOUR Asterisk, yes.
17:04.12PenguinDid you compile asterisk yourself?  Do you still have the build tree?
17:04.23SuperBawlzI started with a clean os install and did it manually. No distro.
17:04.30SuperBawlzYes
17:04.32WIMPyBut recompiling it all would probably have taken less time than asking :-)
17:04.37PenguinIf you still have the build tree, you can.
17:05.00PenguinThat's a valid point, wimpy.
17:05.42PenguinDon't clean, just make again.
17:06.03PenguinIf you clean, you'll recompile all of it.
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17:07.49WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:07.54WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:07.59PenguinNOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:08.01WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:08.03WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:08.05alamiWIMPy: stop spam here
17:08.06WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:08.11WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:08.11PenguinThat's not spam.
17:08.13WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:08.22PenguinSpam would be if he sent this to you in an email.
17:08.23WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:08.35WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:08.37WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
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17:08.58Penguinfile, qwell, mjordan, malcolmd
17:08.59WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
17:09.01WIMPy*Create ram:NotePad*SetType ram:NotePad Text*Build ram:NotePad
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17:09.18alamiPenguin: what was that then?
17:09.23Penguina flood
17:09.31Qwella misclick >.>
17:09.47Penguinmis- something
17:09.53PenguinI've never seen that before.
17:09.54alamilol .. ahh good so he will be back :-)
17:10.05stefan27if Set(CHANNEL(language)=foo) was called earlier in the dialplan, how would i query the value of the item CHANNEL(language) later in the dialplan?
17:10.29Penguin${CHANNEL(language)} I'd imagine.
17:11.22stefan27ah that worked
17:11.36stefan27thanks
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17:12.42WIMPySorry but that.
17:12.54WIMPyDid I mention that I need more space?
17:12.55SuperBawlzThe rest of the system is working fine. Plus i was just curious.
17:13.01PenguinWhat happened?
17:13.18SuperBawlzAnd whats with the channel spamming dawg?
17:13.21WIMPyJust some stuff ending up on the keyboard once again.
17:13.33PenguinAs we already covered, that wasn't spam.
17:13.40PenguinSpam would have been if he sent that to you in an email.
17:13.46WIMPyBut I ffel old now. That keybinding surely hasn't made sense dor much more than a decade.
17:13.52SuperBawlzFloodinh
17:14.00SuperBawlzFlooding.
17:14.18QwellIt's done.  Get over it.
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17:14.35stefan27when i set a normal variable on a asterisk-chan i can use underscores as _happyVariable=boo to make it survive a dial, but how can i do that to make CHANNEL(language) survive a dial
17:14.38WIMPyWe should talk about spit here, not spam :-)
17:15.50stefan27so that if SIP\A executes Set(CHANNEL(language)=foo) then Dial(LocalX... LocalX would still have ${CHANNEL(language)} returning true
17:15.59stefan27i meant boo
17:16.02stefan27not true
17:16.03Penguinstefan27: Survive a dial?  What does that mean?  Preceeding variables with (an) underscore(s) is for variable inheritance to child channels.
17:16.31stefan27yeah that's what i meant -- but CHANNEL(item) is a function not a variable?
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17:16.57WIMPystefan27: Use pre-dial handlers?
17:17.07PenguinIf you set the value to a variable, then you can look it up as a variable.  Channel values often change per channel.
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17:18.38PenguinIf you need a newly created channel to have the CHANNEL(language) value set, set it in the target extension.
17:19.29PenguinIf it's for a SIP device, set it on the peer definition.
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17:22.48filehttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Pre-dial+handlers are also useful for outgoing
17:23.47PenguinI've got to remember to implement some of the new handlers that weren't available in previous branches.
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17:50.47rrittgarnCaller A calls in and is blind transferred to a specific parking spot by setting PARKINGEXTEN=71 (for example), this lights up the BLF on the phones and all is happy until caller B calls in, and less qualified receptionist blind transfers Caller B to 71 as well... Now Caller A and Caller B are talking without an easy way to retrieve them...
17:50.59rrittgarnIs there any way to prevent this (aside from more qualified end users) while maintaining the pick your parking spot functionality?
17:51.09rrittgarnPB of the parking code: http://pastebin.com/P4Tp87j3
17:54.11PenguinThe concept would be to return the call back to the lqr who sent it there.
17:54.30PenguinI'm not sure how to write that.
17:55.00[TK]D-Fenderrrittgarn: You already have code there to act differently if its inuse....
17:58.20rrittgarnyes except that if you blind transfer to it, the transfer still completes
17:58.23rrittgarnand joins the calls
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17:59.24[TK]D-FenderIt will always complete
17:59.29[TK]D-FenderYou can't stop that
17:59.37[TK]D-FenderDialplan has to decide what to do.
18:00.22[TK]D-FenderThere is no "lets do some stuff before actually accepting this blind transfer"
18:00.33PenguinI have an idea.
18:00.56[TK]D-FenderActually, so do I...
18:01.04[TK]D-Fender(with caveats)
18:01.09PenguinSet some arbitrary variable on the initial inbound call.  Check for it before allowing the Dial().
18:01.19[TK]D-FenderCheck if it IS a blind transfer and not a new call for pickup purposes there.
18:01.31PenguinIf the variable exists AND the parkl channel is in use, reject it.
18:01.40[TK]D-FenderPenguin: Shouldn't need an arbitrary one.. there already is one for blind transfers
18:01.44PenguinOh?
18:01.49PenguinThat's even easier.
18:01.51[TK]D-FenderPenguin: Yup...
18:02.09PenguinBut wait...
18:02.21[TK]D-FenderNow either way the transfer will still be complete, but at least you'll know WHY it was called and act accordingly.
18:02.24PenguinAll of the transfers into that park will be blind.
18:02.34PenguinSo that's not going to be a good check.
18:02.36[TK]D-Fenderpehe also uses that exten for pickup
18:02.39[TK]D-FenderPenguin: ^
18:02.44[TK]D-FenderWchi would be a new call
18:03.01[TK]D-Fenderhe just wants to save his ass on a blind to an occupied spot
18:03.16[TK]D-FenderSo it'll still have to do some logic to call him back, etc... but hey, that's on him
18:03.23PenguinMy idea will have a value set on any call that comes from outside.  If that value exists on the channel that would allow it to be parked when the park is not in use.
18:03.50PenguinIf the park is in use AND if the value exists, reject it.
18:04.21PenguinIf the park in in use and the value does not exist, retrieve the parked call.
18:04.48PenguinIf the value exists but the park is not in use, allow parking of the call.
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18:04.58rrittgarni think i understand what both of you lovely people are describing, and it sounds almost like the same thing, except fender is relying on built in ${BLINDXFER} variable?
18:05.09[TK]D-Fenderyup
18:05.23PenguinBut I'm saying every attempt at parking will have that set on it.
18:05.25PenguinSo that's out.
18:05.38rrittgarnthing is if all calls being transfered to 71 (example) are blind, and I'm already checking if its in use and its failing, what could i check for beyond that
18:05.44rrittgarnpretty much what penguin said
18:05.55rrittgarnonly difference would be if i were having issues picking up (which i'm not unless they get joined)
18:06.29PenguinIf every transfer to park is blind, every transfer will have that value.
18:07.05PenguinWait, I'm thinking of it from the wrong angle.
18:07.29[TK]D-FenderPICKUP usage won't be a transfer
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18:07.36Penguin...right
18:07.42PenguinThat's what I was about to modify.
18:07.48[TK]D-Fenderit's only double-blind we need to watch for
18:07.54PenguinCheck for the absence of the blind transfer value.
18:08.04[TK]D-Fenderor presence thereof
18:08.10PenguinIf the blind transfer value does not exist, it must be a pickup.
18:08.26[TK]D-Fenderthat's the theory
18:09.02PenguinThat should be easy to add to what is already in place.
18:09.29[TK]D-Fenderyup
18:09.34rrittgarni guess i'm unclear on how knowing its a blind helps me or not. If i see its blind and in use, bounce back to the original caller via either another dial or a redirect?
18:09.47[TK]D-FenderWith consideration to what he actually intends to do with that information.
18:09.53rrittgarnjust making sure i have my head around your discussion (and extreme helpfulness)
18:09.55[TK]D-Fenderrrittgarn: yes
18:09.58PenguinA call comes in, gets transferred to park71.
18:10.33PenguinA second call comes in, gets transferred to park71, but this time it is inuse so you jump to a different part of dialplan.
18:10.56PenguinCheck for the presence and/or absence of that blind transfer value.
18:11.23PenguinIf inuse=1 AND blindxfer=1, reject the park.
18:11.36PenguinIf inuse=1 AND blindxfer=0, pickup the park.
18:12.04rrittgarnk pretty sure that makes sense. I'll test and report back. Thanks for the help
18:12.35PenguinYou'll still have to figure out what you're going to do with the call that is being rejected.
18:12.55PenguinI would want it to return to the goofball who sent it there when the park was already in use.
18:13.11rrittgarnyeah as i said... end users... bane of my existence...
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18:21.13PenguinMaybe a hangup handler in conjunction with those tests would be able to return the call to the person who sent it.
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18:24.14o_be_onehi community :)
18:24.15[TK]D-Fendernope.
18:24.28rrittgarnthing is there isn't a hangup, the calls get bridged by the parking application
18:24.34[TK]D-Fenderthe channel is actually gone at that point
18:24.37rrittgarnthen people just get confused
18:24.47o_be_onei'm looking for an awesome voice recognition wich is free, i've already heard something about sphinx but someone knows that and can suggest something ?
18:24.51PenguinWhen I make a call which goes out over my google voice account, my phone shows a call to +1NXXNXXXXXX@voice.google.com instead of just NXXNXXXXXX.  Is that an operation of the channel driver for the phone?
18:25.16Qwello_be_one: even the non-free ones aren't something I would call "awesome"
18:25.50[TK]D-Fenderawesome voice recognition <- contradiction in terms
18:25.52PenguinThe transferrer hangs up.  That doesn't trigger a hangup handler in any way?
18:26.13[TK]D-FenderPenguin: There is nothing to save there.
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18:27.00o_be_oneQwell, yeah sure, i just need to recognize some things like "yes" "no" "one" "two" ...
18:28.02[TK]D-Fendero_be_one: sphinx can do that.  Also there is direct Google ASR support out there.
18:28.14[TK]D-Fendero_be_one: Which you can google up a guide for
18:28.40o_be_oneGoogle offer only 50 use by day, i need many more :(
18:34.41o_be_one[TK]D-Fender, you talked about that right ?
18:35.35[TK]D-Fenderyes
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18:39.26PenguinI added the I option to the Dial() and now it doesn't do that.
18:40.40zafhaving difficulties getting grandstream device to autoconfigure with an xml file. Anyone have a working example?
18:42.53o_be_oneQwell, and nuisance (dragon translate) or humanvox are awesome no ? but not free :(
18:43.49PenguinSomething called a nuisance doesn't sound very favorable.
18:43.54QwellLumenvox, you mean?  And Dragon takes a *HUGE* amount of time to train, onto a specific voice.
18:49.34o_be_oneLumenvox yes
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18:50.01o_be_onePenguin, lol sure about nuisance x)
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19:01.47mjordanwith speech recognition, you get what you pay for - both in terms of accuracy and in terms of ease of use. Plus, with the silly number of patents surrounding the technology, the free solutions are somewhat encumbered.
19:04.06o_be_onei think that the free solution could help for small recognitions like "yes" "no" ...
19:08.03[TK]D-FenderGo for it
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19:19.05EC_Joehey guys we're running a copy of freepbx, and i'm trying to use Yii2 with my asterisk database. Came across the devices table and noticed it has no primary key, is this something that would be considered being changed?
19:21.10Qwell~freepbx
19:21.10infobot[~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there
19:21.54EC_JoeQwell: is the "devices" table not an asterisk table?
19:22.07EC_Joe(just asking because they told me it wasn't theirs)
19:22.29QwellI don't know how you got that from what you were told.
19:23.11Chainsaw"I don't know what to do" "Say it wasn't you" *guitar riff starts*
19:23.54[TK]D-Fender[14:22]EC_Joe(just asking because they told me it wasn't theirs) <- not true
19:24.33Chainsawgives [TK]D-Fender a large, quiz show style "wrong" buzzer
19:24.55EC_JoeI don't have the exact message but thinking it was something along the lines of only "freepbx" tables are freepbx
19:25.04[TK]D-FenderChainsaw: I want a giant gong, and  vaudeville-style cane....
19:25.14Penguin(1238.01) <[TK]D-Fender> all of the tables from FreePBX ... are FreePBX
19:25.24[TK]D-FendereccALL of the tabels maintained by FreePBX
19:25.42[TK]D-FenderEC_Joe: ALL of those tables are maintained by FreePBX
19:25.50[TK]D-Fendercan't type at all today
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19:25.53rrittgarnasterisk realtime database structures != FreePBX
19:26.00SuperBawlz[2014-12-03 14:23:59] ERROR[4934] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql database asteriskcdrdb on localhost.
19:26.04[TK]D-Fenderrrittgarn: He's using FreePBX
19:26.13EC_Joethen I shall return to the freepbx channel  to continue the conversation
19:26.13SuperBawlzIs there any way to get more information from the system on that error?
19:26.23PenguinIf FreePBX created them, they are part of FreePBX.
19:26.25rrittgarnFender: yes, i was agreeing with you
19:26.27SuperBawlzI can access the database just fine.
19:26.28[TK]D-FenderSuperBawlz: have you proved that it does exist?
19:26.37SuperBawlzDoes what exist?
19:26.43[TK]D-FenderBecause next would be that the user has no rights to it
19:26.49SuperBawlzHmmmm
19:26.51[TK]D-Fenderthat database & table
19:26.56SuperBawlzHang on, let me test something
19:27.04SuperBawlzthe database and table does
19:27.08SuperBawlzThat much I know.
19:27.17SuperBawlzLet me double check user rights.
19:27.18[TK]D-Fendertime to quintuple-check your configs too...
19:27.26ChainsawEC_Joe: You should! You received incorrect information.
19:27.41EC_JoeChansaw I think I misinterpreted information given to me is all
19:29.10ChainsawEC_Joe: It appears #freepbx is mounting a "It wasn't me" defence. You should dig deeper.
19:29.55ChainsawEC_Joe: Particularly as Fender's politeness is a shared resource. It is finite and you are reaching the end.
19:31.11SuperBawlzOk, I used the console and tested the user and pass and rights. No problem logging in and now problem inserting a record and displaying records.
19:31.30SuperBawlzI'm going to triple check the configs.
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19:32.05[TK]D-Fender[14:29]ChainsawEC_Joe: Particularly as Fender's politeness is a shared resource. It is finite and you are reaching the end. <- not yet
19:32.35Chainsaw[TK]D-Fender: But the end is abrupt. EC_Joe needs to be prepared.
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19:33.32[TK]D-FenderChainsaw: Don't go playing psychic and getting people worried for what may come at some undetermined point.
19:34.29Chainsaw[TK]D-Fender: Do I have a no capslock guarantee?
19:35.22[TK]D-FenderChainsaw: Nope.  And it's not just used for yelling you know.
19:35.52Chainsaw[TK]D-Fender: That is what I thought. It is fair warning.
19:41.12ChainsawI have been asked to leave.
19:44.06[TK]D-Fender?
19:49.12hardwireare we talking about relationships to software?
19:49.14hardwireis intrigued.
19:51.01[TK]D-Fenderhardwire: My software fucks me all the time ... but it's more like "rape" than "relationship".
19:51.25[TK]D-Fenderdies a little inside
19:51.56hardwireso you're just overly crass then.
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19:52.44antiochIstanyone else noticed setting CDR variable does not work in h extension on 12+?
19:53.19[TK]D-FenderLast I heard that was read-only once you reach that point regardless of version
19:53.31antiochIstreally?
19:54.29antiochIsthttps://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-16874
19:55.50antiochIstalso why would “endbeforehexten” be an option in cdr.conf?
19:55.53WIMPyIt depends on your cdr configuration.
19:56.04mjordanCDRs in 12 != CDRs in prior versions.
19:56.09mjordanor rather, 12+.
19:56.13WIMPyEither it's read-only or the callstats are available.
19:56.20WIMPyAFAIR that is.
19:57.01mjordanendbeforehexten does still do stuff. You can modify a CDR in the 'h' extension. However, the CDR that represented the path of communication between party A and party B is already done: the parties hung up. As such, you can't modify it. Modifying things in the 'h' extension modifies a new CDR for party A.
19:57.21mjordanOnce a path of communication between two parties is closed, that CDR is done. We don't go around mucking with it still.
19:58.51hardwireI used a 'final' variable for CDR modification in h
19:59.45mjordanGenerally, you'll get two CDRs for a channel if you want to modify things in the 'h' extension. If you don't want that, then you should use one of the Dial interception routines (pre-dial, pre-bridge) to modify the party A's records.
19:59.57mjordanYou can certainly look at the last CDR for a channel in the 'h' extension
20:00.35antiochIstok, ill look into it more
20:00.45antiochIstIm also using cdr_mysql
20:01.06mjordanwhich is deprecated.
20:01.11mjordanso your mileage may vary.
20:01.16antiochIstyea
20:01.32mjordanGranted, the backends weren't touched in 12+, but using anything that is deprecated is generally a "good luck"
20:01.41antiochIstyea i feel you
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20:44.58mdhasDoes anyone know why a registration for all my sip devices timeout since I upgraded my modules?
20:47.30[TK]D-FenderWhat modules?
20:48.20mdhasCore and a few others...I don't remember off hand but can look it up
20:48.59[TK]D-FenderNot sure what you're referring to so please look it up and be more elaborate
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21:14.48saint_hi all - If I have a digium phone D70 , how can I program it so depending on which LINE button is pressed on the main screen, the outgoing call will use X or Y did that I own ?
21:15.40[TK]D-Fendersaint_: have them as separate reg's
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21:24.47saint_[TK]D-Fender so i just looked into it, and i am not sure to follow what you are suggesting.
21:25.13[TK]D-FenderMake each it's own SIP account
21:25.13Penguin[TK]D-Fender: its
21:25.24saint_i have a registration (?) within the sip.conf , but everything else is in res_digium_phone.conf
21:26.06saint_[TK]D-Fender so make 2 registrations in the sip.conf ?
21:26.54[TK]D-FenderClearly
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21:36.56saint_[TK]D-Fender so i was able to add another line to the phone, with the new registration. now.. in the dialplan, how do i figure out which button line is pressed so I can pick what DID to send out ?
21:37.24[TK]D-Fenderbecause you'll set each peer to its own context
21:38.30[TK]D-Fenderok, checkout time, heading home
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21:46.27mdhasInteresting turns out it was my sip provider completely co-incidental regarding the fact that I upgraded
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21:47.17tzicawho can advise on the following setup:
21:47.28saint_if I have a context=xxx in a template , in sip.conf , and i create a new reg from this template but I add context=yyy in it, will this one (yyy) overwrite the context from the template ?
21:48.33tzica[pbx 1 + phones] - trunk - [asterisk] - trunk - [SIP provider]
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21:49.16tzicawhat to do to make outbound calls through SIP provider from phones connected to PBX 1 ?
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22:07.26saint_Is the digit_map taken in account with Digium phones, in res_digium_phones.conf ?
22:07.52saint_Because I have a very simple one: [2-9]xxxxxxxxx , and it will let me dial numbers starting with 1
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22:15.27malcolmddigit_map is for off-hook dialing.  for on-hook dialing, you dial whatever you like.  if you'd like it to complete the dial at any point during your on-hook dialing, take the phone off-hook.
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22:28.48saint_malcolmd hhhaaaa, okay, thanks.
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22:59.48saint_So in the PrivacyManager . once she says press 1 for xx , press 2 for xx , press 3 for xx , press 4 for xx , right after she is done she says "I am sorry I did not understand your response" , and go again. Is this a bug ? or miss configuation ?
23:10.17[TK]D-Fendersaint_, Show us....
23:10.35saint_well... you would have to listen to it ...
23:11.04saint_all I have in my dialplan is  same => n(accept),PrivacyManager()
23:11.27saint_beside the fact that I test ${DIALSTATUS} just after, but that is irrelevant.
23:11.54saint_When the caller is in the privacymanager, and the privacymanager call the number I have in Dial, that's when it goes wrong
23:12.59saint_[TK]D-Fender but if you really want to see it, here it is: http://pastebin.com/PwhAHxB6
23:20.55[TK]D-FenderShow the CALL
23:38.02saint_[TK]D-Fender debub, verbose, or sip  ?
23:38.35[TK]D-Fenderdebug & verbose
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23:45.52saint_[TK]D-Fender here you go: http://pastebin.com/eJXDHnnb
23:48.56[TK]D-FenderWhat are you pressing during that?
23:49.24saint_nothing
23:49.30saint_it just goes on a loop
23:49.34saint_i can press a key anytime
23:49.43saint_it just bother me that it goes in a loop without waiting for my input
23:49.48saint_and there is no option for that
23:50.56[TK]D-FenderWell that's just the way it works.  If you don't like it then you can write your own confirmation processing
23:57.46saint_well.. that is bad user experience

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