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| 02:38.51 | Apteryx | Hello, * people! |
| 02:39.34 | WIMPy | looks at the calendar. I think it should be "party people" now. |
| 02:41.11 | Apteryx | hehe. Montreal night-life just around the corner. It's just that * is so much fun ;) |
| 02:42.49 | WIMPy | You are still new to it? |
| 02:42.55 | Apteryx | Couldn't get opus passthrough going though. Using either pjsip or good old chan_sip. |
| 02:43.02 | Apteryx | yes, still quite new to it! |
| 02:43.13 | WIMPy | Thought so. |
| 02:43.21 | Apteryx | :D |
| 02:44.50 | Apteryx | Are you a Digium employee? You seem to hang out here often. |
| 02:45.00 | WIMPy | Nope |
| 02:45.25 | WIMPy | I probably wouldn't be allowed to make such comments, I guess. |
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| 02:58.24 | Apteryx | WIMPy: ok. And just by curiosity, what kind of IRC client do you use to keep track of its activity? I'm only using irssi, it's just so easy to forget about it. |
| 02:58.42 | WIMPy | LIRC |
| 02:58.55 | Apteryx | ok, I'll check it out. |
| 02:59.01 | WIMPy | But usually I will only read back a few lines, if at all. |
| 02:59.15 | WIMPy | Might become an interesting journey. |
| 02:59.22 | Apteryx | ok! Guess I'm lucky then. :) |
| 03:01.45 | Penguin | I've been using irssi for probably 13 years... what's your complaint about it? |
| 03:03.02 | Apteryx | Penguin: I love it, just that I thought the hardcore IRC users had some kind of notification system. Maybe geek enough to have their own bot, I don't know :) |
| 03:03.25 | Penguin | What kind of notification are you referring to? |
| 03:04.16 | WIMPy | I don't have any notifications, just some scripted management of queries. But I do have some bot stuff in as well. |
| 03:04.22 | Apteryx | Maybe some sound when someone answers your question, or some visual sign that the channel is active. |
| 03:04.35 | Penguin | irssi does that by default. |
| 03:04.58 | Apteryx | does what? :) |
| 03:04.59 | WIMPy | There are activity bars in all lists. |
| 03:05.10 | Penguin | (2204.22) <Apteryx> Maybe some sound when someone answers your question, or some visual sign that the channel is active. |
| 03:05.14 | Penguin | It does those. |
| 03:05.18 | Penguin | By default. |
| 03:05.31 | Apteryx | oh. I guess ubuntu defaults are screwed up then. |
| 03:05.52 | Apteryx | I never heard a sound coming from irssi |
| 03:06.03 | Penguin | apteryx: When someone addresses you, it should sound the system bell. |
| 03:07.12 | Apteryx | ah, the system bell. That would explain why I never heard it! It's one of those thing I turn off quickly. I'll try to put it back on for fun. |
| 03:08.54 | WIMPy | digs in to his script... |
| 03:11.25 | Apteryx | /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf:blacklist pcspkr |
| 03:11.28 | Apteryx | hehe |
| 03:12.04 | Penguin | When a channel that you do not have in focus has activity, the window number lights up. |
| 03:12.35 | Apteryx | Penguin, yes, I have this also. |
| 03:12.45 | Penguin | When a channel that you do not have in focus gets a highlight for you, it lights up a different color. |
| 03:12.56 | Penguin | So it does the things you are complaining that it doesn't do. |
| 03:13.04 | Penguin | It sounds more like YOU are what is broken. |
| 03:13.16 | Apteryx | hahaha, probably ;) |
| 03:13.47 | WIMPy | That reminds me that I should try Cretin some day. |
| 03:13.55 | Penguin | If you think irssi doesn't cater to the user, you should try ii sometime. |
| 03:14.21 | Apteryx | Cretin! Nice name. |
| 03:14.36 | Apteryx | Could have been written by Linus |
| 03:14.52 | WIMPy | I'm not using Linux :-) |
| 03:15.03 | Penguin | blasphemer |
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| 03:15.18 | Apteryx | WIMPy: Debian Hurd? ;) |
| 03:15.40 | WIMPy | No nix |
| 03:15.45 | Penguin | He uses Plan 9. |
| 03:15.47 | WIMPy | RISC OS |
| 03:16.24 | Penguin | dual boot, Plan 9 and BeOS |
| 03:16.39 | WIMPy | I whish I had Plan 1 :-) |
| 03:16.44 | Apteryx | Are ARM CPUs RISC? |
| 03:17.20 | WIMPy | It's THE RISC :-) |
| 03:17.36 | Apteryx | makes sense |
| 03:18.08 | WIMPy | And the R im ARM actually stands for RISC. |
| 03:18.10 | Apteryx | So what is this RISC OS about? GNU tools are all there? |
| 03:18.25 | WIMPy | Recursive acronyms... |
| 03:18.30 | WIMPy | No |
| 03:18.49 | WIMPy | Well, maybe. I never cared. |
| 03:21.34 | Apteryx | WIMPy: What do you use it for? |
| 03:21.41 | Apteryx | Low power home server? |
| 03:22.13 | WIMPy | Mainly IRC and text editing. |
| 03:22.25 | WIMPy | And yes, it still does mail. |
| 03:23.04 | WIMPy | I haven't found any usable editor for linux, yet. |
| 03:23.22 | Apteryx | WIMPy: ok! Really? vim, emacs are not to your taste? |
| 03:23.37 | WIMPy | Not really, no. |
| 03:23.49 | Apteryx | Maybe nano ;) |
| 03:23.50 | WIMPy | If I have to use one locally, I usually use jove. |
| 03:24.50 | WIMPy | Maybe they could be made to work for me if I spend at least a whole week configuring them. |
| 03:25.09 | WIMPy | But is it worth it if you already have a better solution? |
| 03:25.46 | Apteryx | Well, it _is_ on linux. Just installed it on Ubuntu with an `apt-get install jove`? |
| 03:26.21 | WIMPy | Yes, that's what I said. If I have to use someting on Linux, that's what I usually use. |
| 03:26.28 | Apteryx | ah, ok. |
| 03:26.50 | Apteryx | But I wanted to know what is the better one on RISC OS for you. You got me curious. |
| 03:27.37 | WIMPy | I prefer Zap but the contender - StrongEd - is also very nice. |
| 03:27.54 | WIMPy | It's like vi vs emacs in some way ;-) |
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| 03:32.54 | Apteryx | WIMPy: I see! Very strange that these tools never got port over other systems? Must be really underground. |
| 03:33.59 | WIMPy | That's because they are written in assembler. |
| 03:35.02 | WIMPy | But that also means that they outperform anythig running on my quad core 2933 MHZ PC even when running on an 8 MHZ ARM2. |
| 03:35.43 | WIMPy | I'm in fact often annoyed by how slow things are on the PC. |
| 03:36.09 | Penguin | Drink another pint of beer. |
| 03:40.37 | Apteryx | :D. Are you porting * to this RISC OS? ;) |
| 03:41.06 | WIMPy | I have never used a compiler here. |
| 03:41.17 | Penguin | cross compile |
| 03:41.37 | WIMPy | And I doubt Asterisk would fit in to the RAM. |
| 03:41.43 | Apteryx | Hmm. Are you aligning opcodes in an hex editor? ;) |
| 03:41.51 | WIMPy | And it's pretty pointless without some hardware interfaces. |
| 03:42.04 | WIMPy | They are always aligned :-) |
| 03:42.07 | Penguin | ethernet |
| 03:43.08 | WIMPy | And when I see how long it takes Asterisk to ring my phone on the PC, I guess most callers would have hung up before my phone stared to tring if I tried it on a 200MHz machine. |
| 03:44.48 | Apteryx | Might have more luck porting SIP Witch |
| 03:44.58 | Apteryx | looks pretty small. |
| 03:46.32 | WIMPy | I actually used this box for voicemail and fax before I tried it with Linux. |
| 03:47.19 | WIMPy | Had two ZyXEL TAs connected to it. |
| 03:48.03 | WIMPy | Well I didn't try fax on linux. That ran here as long as I had a phone line. |
| 03:48.11 | Apteryx | ok! |
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| 03:49.58 | Apteryx | Tomorrow I will try FreeSWITCH. Anybody tried it here? Looks good, on paper. |
| 03:50.29 | WIMPy | Yes. But I couldn't make it work with hardware. |
| 03:51.07 | Apteryx | ok! I guess that's its main drawback. Lack of hardware support. But for SIP seems like a good way to go. |
| 03:51.48 | WIMPy | Oh, and I hate XML configs, off course. |
| 03:52.08 | Apteryx | I'm mostly curious to see how well it deals with OPUS. |
| 03:52.27 | Apteryx | And codec negotiation in general. |
| 03:52.28 | WIMPy | Well, SIP isn't important here. Hardware and IAX are. |
| 03:52.43 | Apteryx | On Asterisk it seems to get passthrough only one codec must be allowed. |
| 03:53.07 | WIMPy | Did you try it on 13? |
| 03:53.18 | Apteryx | Yep. Compiled v13 from SVN. |
| 03:53.23 | Apteryx | Maybe got a bad day ;) |
| 03:56.05 | Apteryx | Ok, night here. Talk to you later :) Enjoy your Friday night! |
| 03:56.41 | WIMPy | It's been Saturday for almost 6 hours :-) |
| 03:58.20 | Apteryx | Europeans ;) |
| 03:59.38 | Apteryx | You'll get the sunrise if not already! |
| 04:00.36 | WIMPy | Nah, to far in to winter. |
| 04:01.20 | WIMPy | 1¾ hours til sunrise. |
| 04:01.50 | Apteryx | hehe |
| 04:05.27 | nextime | is really sad that asterisk-gui is deprecated |
| 04:05.32 | WIMPy | tries his first OpenVox |
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| 04:24.41 | WIMPy | gives up on trying to connect the power connector. It's impossible in this case :-( |
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| 06:52.33 | LFS | can Asterisk be installed on an existing operating system or is it an full package including its own CentOS? |
| 06:52.56 | WIMPy | You can get both. |
| 06:53.42 | LFS | WIMPy: are you stating that there are both Asterisk as application and as an OS/Application |
| 06:53.56 | WIMPy | Yes. |
| 06:54.13 | WIMPy | AsteriskNOW is one of the distros. |
| 06:54.49 | LFS | and Asterisk Communications Framework is the application? |
| 06:55.26 | LFS | I've downloaded asterisk-11-current.tar.gz but I'm not sure which one that is |
| 06:55.32 | WIMPy | Just Asterisk |
| 06:55.47 | WIMPy | That's Asterisk, i.e. the application. |
| 06:56.18 | LFS | Cool .. but the documents had me confused |
| 06:56.42 | LFS | I thought I've the downloaded the wrong thing |
| 06:57.19 | LFS | so, is this app compible for windows too? |
| 06:57.38 | LFS | with normal config make make install on linux |
| 06:59.44 | WIMPy | I don't think it has been tried sucessfully on Windows for ages. |
| 07:00.02 | WIMPy | For starters try: |
| 07:00.04 | WIMPy | ~primer |
| 07:00.04 | infobot | New to asterisk configuration? Check out this primer to get started. http://burner.com/asterisk-primer |
| 07:00.06 | WIMPy | ~book |
| 07:00.06 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook |
| 07:03.55 | LFS | I downloaded the 3rd edition pdf but I didn't find the 4th in the same format for easy reading |
| 07:04.37 | jeev | can anyone with ff get to https://secure.newegg.com ? new cert, unrecognized.. |
| 07:16.47 | ChannelZ | works for me |
| 07:17.48 | ChannelZ | well, ish. I just get redirected to the non-https main site |
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| 07:45.22 | LFS | I've installed asterisk on the virtual box and it says you can access the GUI by browsing to 10.0.2.15 |
| 07:45.30 | LFS | but this is not happening |
| 07:45.42 | LFS | any suggestions to fix this issue? |
| 07:50.08 | ChannelZ | is that really the IP the vbox has? |
| 07:50.19 | ChannelZ | And/or is accessable through your host? |
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| 07:53.24 | LFS | I'm not sure, it was automatically assigned during the intsallation process |
| 07:54.30 | LFS | yeah, now it's accessible |
| 07:54.40 | ChannelZ | Well, so networking through VirtualBox is weird |
| 07:54.52 | LFS | I've changed the network adapter configuration on the vbox from NAT to Bridge |
| 08:06.22 | eirirs | heh |
| 08:11.11 | LFS | I'm just exploring the control panel menus and options |
| 08:11.50 | LFS | this is my first time running this Asterisk and I wanna understand to put it in production |
| 08:16.54 | ChannelZ | well.. really you're exploring FreePBX |
| 09:13.23 | LFS | now it's time to try to compile and install the source on slackware |
| 09:13.42 | LFS | let's see if it will lack to many dependencies |
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| 14:02.14 | Apteryx | Am I supposed to be able to connect to already opened TCP connections? I'm trying to test the TCP connections between my UA and Asterisk. |
| 14:02.54 | Apteryx | But this command: "nc -v -w 1 -z 192.168.0.10 60109" returns Connection failed. |
| 14:03.12 | Apteryx | (192.168.0.10:60109 is the address of my UA) |
| 14:15.55 | WIMPy | No. You can only connect to listening sockets. |
| 14:26.23 | Apteryx | WIMPy: ok. |
| 14:27.05 | Apteryx | So the only way I can see if a TCP connection is reused rather than recreate everytime is using a packet analyzer? |
| 14:29.19 | WIMPy | The only reliable way, yes. |
| 14:29.40 | WIMPy | Although the port number will probably change on each connection. |
| 14:29.56 | Apteryx | ok! |
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| 16:21.40 | GeneralAntilles | I'm researching what will be involved in upgrading our old analog PBX to a modern VoIP system. |
| 16:22.37 | GeneralAntilles | With the Meridian system, calls coming in on the store retail line all ring on every extension, can be answered on any extension, and can be picked up on any extension if placed on hold |
| 16:23.30 | GeneralAntilles | I'm confused about how the singles presses pickup/hold/pickup functionality can be implemented in a SIP system. |
| 16:25.37 | WIMPy | You should be able to put parkingslots on keys. You probably even get them to light up if there's a call parked. |
| 16:26.27 | GeneralAntilles | Call parking and BLF are the keywords I should be searching, then? |
| 16:27.52 | WIMPy | Yes. |
| 16:29.18 | GeneralAntilles | OK, thanks. :) |
| 16:37.54 | c|oneman | can you change/configure the dialplan on polycom phones using the web interface? |
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| 19:02.15 | fp2099 | Hi! |
| 19:03.04 | fp2099 | Anyone add a problem with asterisk not properly killing channels with Polycom hardphones? |
| 19:49.38 | Penguin | Is that a feature request? |
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