| 00:00.28 | *** join/#asterisk dongola7 (~dongola7@pool-71-178-179-231.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
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| 00:04.50 | j4jackj | ChannelZ: heh |
| 00:04.59 | j4jackj | ChannelZ: I'm in big trouble |
| 00:05.12 | navaismo | ok here is my stupid question of the day: I have the permit=10.0.1.0/255.255.255.0 and deny=0.0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 on a peer |
| 00:05.15 | j4jackj | ChannelZ: did you attempt to call? |
| 00:05.20 | WIMPy | We know. |
| 00:05.24 | WIMPy | But you don;t know why. |
| 00:05.27 | ChannelZ | I did call |
| 00:05.28 | j4jackj | navaismo: too many .s and 0s |
| 00:05.38 | navaismo | so any peer of 10.0.1.0/24 should athenticate right? |
| 00:05.48 | j4jackj | Asterisk sucks |
| 00:05.53 | WIMPy | wow |
| 00:05.55 | ChannelZ | no, your config sucks |
| 00:05.58 | navaismo | 4 in the real config i got excited |
| 00:06.27 | ChannelZ | navaismo: eh? |
| 00:06.37 | navaismo | 4 zeros in the real config |
| 00:06.40 | j4jackj | ChannelZ: that is what I meant, but my config is all fine... |
| 00:06.47 | ChannelZ | Obviously it is not fine |
| 00:07.22 | ChannelZ | navaismo: oh I see. Well yes except for that, what you said seems right |
| 00:07.29 | Penguin | <navaismo> so any peer of 10.0.1.0/24 should athenticate right? <---- No. It only means that there is an ACL that allows that subnet to have the ability to authenticate. If your stuff is configured to authenticate or even allow authentication or request authentication is another matter. |
| 00:07.52 | ChannelZ | I knew someone would say that |
| 00:10.06 | Penguin | And I think the order of deny and permit is critical. |
| 00:10.17 | Penguin | deny everything first, then permit some things. |
| 00:10.53 | navaismo | hmm i see the issue then |
| 00:11.11 | Penguin | I could have made that part up, but it seems like that's how it works. |
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| 00:11.24 | j4jackj | ChannelZ: pastebin of my local and extern: http://sprunge.us/gOYg |
| 00:11.33 | Penguin | I'm trying to have my supper or I would look it up in the book. |
| 00:12.58 | Penguin | Are you using all three of those subnets in your network where asterisk resides? |
| 00:13.06 | navaismo | so the table of sippeers its wrong? it has first the permit and then the deny |
| 00:13.44 | Penguin | You'll have to consult the manual about that. Like I mentioned, I could have made up the part about the order being critical. |
| 00:13.53 | j4jackj | Penguin: no, only 192.168.1.x |
| 00:14.10 | Penguin | Consider correctly defining your local network rather than everything. |
| 00:14.30 | navaismo | nope Penguin you are right moving the deny row above the permit row and it work |
| 00:14.42 | Penguin | good |
| 00:14.49 | navaismo | someone need to chage the order in the contrib folder |
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| 00:19.12 | ChannelZ | j4jackj: did you go back to binding to your ipv6 address or something? |
| 00:19.31 | j4jackj | ChannelZ: yes I did, for a lark |
| 00:19.42 | Penguin | It would be extremely helpful if he'd paste his entire general section from sip.conf. |
| 00:19.55 | ChannelZ | if by "lark" you mean "so it won't work right" then mission accomplished |
| 00:19.57 | j4jackj | I can paste my entire sip.conf |
| 00:20.16 | j4jackj | http://sprunge.us/XJCR |
| 00:20.23 | ChannelZ | (which someone else would have to tell you if it's a design limitation or a bug) |
| 00:20.26 | Penguin | If you want to know why it doesn't work right, that would be a good start to getting it figured out. |
| 00:20.27 | j4jackj | 141 lines |
| 00:21.02 | Penguin | Are you trying to run SIP over TCP? |
| 00:21.07 | j4jackj | Nope, UDp |
| 00:21.25 | j4jackj | TCP is in there because it can go through firewalls if needs absolutely must |
| 00:21.30 | Penguin | Then turn tcpenable back off. |
| 00:21.45 | j4jackj | Why? Could that be the source of my NATnightmare? |
| 00:21.49 | ChannelZ | I already figured this out once, it's the udpbindaddr |
| 00:21.51 | Penguin | UDP can go right through firewalls the same way. |
| 00:22.12 | j4jackj | OK, I've done it...? |
| 00:22.19 | ChannelZ | For whatever reason it breaks * being able to figure out what is LAN and what is not and lie to the outside world. |
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| 00:22.52 | Penguin | Those three allow lines for codecs... the second and third are totally useless. The first one is allow=all, so the others don't matter. |
| 00:22.57 | j4jackj | So maybe I should have two UDPbindaddrs, one UDPv6 at 5080 and one UDPv4 at 5060, no? |
| 00:23.09 | j4jackj | Penguin: I was giving a preference order |
| 00:23.09 | ChannelZ | you can't have 2 |
| 00:23.19 | j4jackj | It will prefer G722 |
| 00:23.20 | Penguin | And SIP is 5060. Remember that. |
| 00:23.31 | apb1963 | dammit... I knew the answer to the deny/permit question. Late again, missed my chance :( |
| 00:23.36 | j4jackj | Penguin: and? I can run it on a wrong port if I want |
| 00:23.45 | Penguin | No one else will connect to you if you do. |
| 00:23.52 | Penguin | Just sayin'. |
| 00:24.45 | j4jackj | Done the UDPv4 conversion from 6 |
| 00:24.53 | Penguin | You are already allowing all codecs. How is the order of the other two going to define a preference? |
| 00:25.20 | j4jackj | Muh.... I have a weird way of working |
| 00:25.54 | Penguin | Also, all the insecure settings with type=friend are pretty pointless. |
| 00:26.13 | j4jackj | Not if they are SIP softphones |
| 00:26.17 | apb1963 | You're like an old girlfriend I had... she refused to follow the recipe and then couldn't understand why the apple pie wasn't very good |
| 00:26.22 | Penguin | Not requiring authentication in the invite all cause the username to never be checked. It's pointless. |
| 00:26.29 | j4jackj | oh |
| 00:26.42 | Penguin | You don't need to have insecure at all. |
| 00:27.01 | Penguin | If you want them to auth, and you should want it, then remove the insecure settings. |
| 00:27.03 | j4jackj | ChannelZ: you are not heard |
| 00:27.37 | ChannelZ | I'm not saying anything. |
| 00:27.55 | apb1963 | And doing a mighty fine job of it apparently |
| 00:28.08 | ChannelZ | Now I (sort of) am |
| 00:28.18 | j4jackj | phone phroaked |
| 00:28.38 | apb1963 | sort of? Using catspeak or something? |
| 00:28.41 | Penguin | The ekiga peer... you're demanding them to send a password to authenticate calls TO you, but then set insecure invites. Duh. No point again. |
| 00:29.56 | Penguin | And I would encourage you to update your old stale canreinvite settings to the more current directmedia setting. |
| 00:30.09 | ChannelZ | the auth would be used for outgoing. There's no problem with that. |
| 00:30.25 | ChannelZ | (though I don't know how ekiga works) |
| 00:30.53 | Penguin | The proper setting for outgoing auth only would be remotesecret, not secret. Then the insecure invite isn't necessary. |
| 00:31.00 | j4jackj | hmm |
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| 00:32.18 | ChannelZ | hrrm. is * 11 doing the Skype firewall trick now? |
| 00:32.39 | Penguin | Most ITSPs don't seem to auth calls to you, but if ekiga does, leave secret alone and stop bypassing the auth with the insecure invites. |
| 00:35.23 | j4jackj | What 'Skype firewall trick'? |
| 00:35.39 | j4jackj | I've disabled insecure (I think) |
| 00:36.08 | Penguin | Deletion of the line would be best. |
| 00:36.22 | j4jackj | I've commented it out |
| 00:36.30 | j4jackj | using ; |
| 00:36.32 | Penguin | That'll suffice. |
| 00:38.26 | Penguin | Regarding your softphone comment... Just so you know, the fact that the phone is software isn't relevant as far as authentication is concerned. Software phones authenticate just like hard phones authenticate. |
| 00:40.14 | j4jackj | apb1963: want to call the conference room? |
| 00:44.18 | Penguin | Next question. |
| 00:44.31 | Penguin | Why is everything a friend instead of a peer? |
| 00:44.47 | Penguin | s/thing/one/ |
| 00:45.27 | j4jackj | Because I want to allow both incoming and outgoing calls from them. |
| 00:45.35 | Penguin | peer does that, too, you know. |
| 00:45.49 | j4jackj | huh? never heard |
| 00:45.53 | Penguin | user is the only type that only allows inbound to asterisk. |
| 00:46.04 | Penguin | A type of friend just uses more memory. |
| 00:46.19 | j4jackj | heh |
| 00:46.36 | Penguin | Not that it is so significant that you're going to run out, but the fact is still a fact. |
| 00:47.41 | Penguin | At least that's how it used to be. I haven't heard that the way friend works has been changed. |
| 00:48.39 | Penguin | I'm not insisting that you change it; I was only wondering why you chose friend instead of peer. |
| 00:53.42 | carrar | peer doesn't challenge invites |
| 00:54.09 | Penguin | Why not? |
| 00:54.30 | Penguin | Or, rather, what makes you say that? |
| 00:54.50 | carrar | does it? |
| 00:55.18 | Penguin | A peer still needs to authenticate if a secret is set and if insecure invite is not set. |
| 00:55.46 | Penguin | The matching is done by IP, but the authentication is still done with the name and secret. |
| 01:06.13 | carrar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.38 | carrar | maybe it was that way AGES ago |
| 01:06.54 | carrar | I stand corrected :) |
| 01:14.34 | carrar | yeah I just traced all those, not sure why I was thinking they weren't |
| 01:15.13 | carrar | perhaps its the flu |
| 01:15.24 | carrar | and all this green slim coming out of my nose |
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| 01:18.37 | TeknoJuce | Hi, what settings in asterisk would cause calling from a sip soft phone on android's speaker to not receive any sound but the mic to work and I can hear it on the landline I can also see the audio bars in the sip client and just the mic one is jumping around but not the speaker when I talk in the landline I called. |
| 01:23.02 | j4jackj | check your client settings |
| 01:23.41 | TeknoJuce | any suggestion on which one? |
| 01:23.46 | TeknoJuce | codecs or something |
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| 01:28.33 | TeknoJuce | I know the speaker is on because it makes the ringing sound |
| 01:29.19 | j4jackj | TeknoJuce: now check your server settings |
| 01:30.34 | TeknoJuce | ... |
| 01:31.10 | j4jackj | Are codecs set to allow=all? |
| 01:40.18 | Penguin | I would hope not. |
| 01:40.28 | Penguin | Codecs should be set to those that you actually want your devices to use. |
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| 01:40.43 | Penguin | 'all' is rarely appropriate for your device. |
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| 01:49.39 | igcewieling | allow=all is NEVER appropriate |
| 01:50.01 | pabelanger | disallow=!all is better |
| 01:50.24 | igcewieling | TeknoJuce: if something is different between speaker and non-speaker on your softphone, then issue is with the softphone, not Asterisk. |
| 01:50.32 | Penguin | How is disallowing nothing better than allowing everything? |
| 01:55.15 | TeknoJuce | I have ulaw, alaw, g722, speex |
| 01:58.06 | igcewieling | it is seldom useful to allow both ulaw and alaw unless you have customers in a different law-land |
| 01:59.35 | Penguin | For the general setting, I might consider allowing both, but for a peer I would set only the codec(s) that peer will use. It will never be both pcm a and u codecs. |
| 02:03.14 | TeknoJuce | using google voice so would ulaw be the preference? |
| 02:03.33 | Penguin | For the google peer? Yes. |
| 02:05.20 | TeknoJuce | so I have no idea whats wrong |
| 02:06.55 | TeknoJuce | in the android sip client I have PCMU 8 khz and PCMA 8 kHz checked |
| 02:07.23 | Penguin | You don't need both. Set only the codec you want to use. |
| 02:07.52 | Penguin | In NA, most people use only ulaw. In some other regions, they'll use alaw. |
| 02:08.43 | igcewieling | TeknoJuce: sounds like a NAT issue, or you are on Verizon 4G |
| 02:09.02 | igcewieling | also try a different sip client |
| 02:09.05 | TeknoJuce | still nothing just slecting only one |
| 02:09.17 | TeknoJuce | Im on wifi igcewieling |
| 02:09.28 | igcewieling | then you have a NAT problem. |
| 02:09.52 | TeknoJuce | so should I turn NAT to NO |
| 02:10.01 | TeknoJuce | to make it NO problem :/ |
| 02:10.11 | igcewieling | TeknoJuce: Is your Asterisk server behind NAT? |
| 02:10.25 | Penguin | I didn't see the description of device and asterisk locations. |
| 02:10.45 | igcewieling | Penguin: neither did I, but if he isn't using Asterisk I'll just put him on /ignore. |
| 02:10.55 | TeknoJuce | asterisk is plugged into a 2wire wireless route |
| 02:11.03 | TeknoJuce | and the phone is connected to its wireless |
| 02:11.14 | igcewieling | TeknoJuce: on the SAME LAN? |
| 02:11.25 | TeknoJuce | yes sir |
| 02:11.35 | igcewieling | put the sip debug of a failed call on pastebin |
| 02:11.36 | igcewieling | ~pb |
| 02:11.36 | infobot | A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
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| 02:36.12 | TeknoJuce | I'll try something other than csipsimple first |
| 02:36.19 | TeknoJuce | as suggested |
| 02:38.26 | igcewieling | When you said "android client" I thought you meant a built in android client. |
| 02:38.54 | igcewieling | csipsimple does work with Asterisk, though a few people have reported minor issues with wideband codecs. |
| 02:39.26 | igcewieling | either you didn't tell us or I didn't scroll back far enough. |
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| 02:41.18 | TeknoJuce | so tried both csipsimple and zoiper both same issue |
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| 02:42.58 | TeknoJuce | So I turned off the STUN server and it worked |
| 02:43.15 | TeknoJuce | which I believe is related to fixing NAT issues as suggested |
| 02:43.22 | j4jackj | hah! |
| 02:43.27 | TeknoJuce | not sure why turning it off helps |
| 02:43.35 | Penguin | Because you don't need STUN. |
| 02:44.06 | TeknoJuce | what a stunner |
| 02:44.24 | j4jackj | If you are both behind the same nat, it means you need to stop the stun |
| 02:45.00 | Penguin | If you are behind different NATs, you still don't need STUN. |
| 02:46.09 | TeknoJuce | beauty works on both clients now not sure why that would be turned on as default in zoiper |
| 02:46.13 | j4jackj | Penguin: honestly, you often do. |
| 02:46.15 | TeknoJuce | thanks for your help |
| 02:46.17 | TeknoJuce | guys |
| 02:46.19 | Penguin | usually never. |
| 02:46.30 | j4jackj | Penguin: ... |
| 02:47.31 | j4jackj | * FTW |
| 02:48.01 | Penguin | Ask most of the people here who actually configure asterisk and NATs. They rarely use STUN. |
| 02:48.07 | j4jackj | Should I make an Asterisk Logo crop circle (with permission from the farmer of course) |
| 02:48.29 | j4jackj | I don't use STUN either. Frankly STUN, I don't give a darn. :D |
| 02:52.51 | igcewieling | When using Asterisk you need to disable all other NAT traversal methods and use Asterisk's NAT traversal methods or it won't work right. |
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| 02:54.40 | j4jackj | igcewieling: sy what you mean! :D |
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| 03:15.26 | ChannelZ | j4jackj: the Skype firewall trick is you send a bogus packet to the remote end on the port number you actually want to receive return traffic from them on. |
| 03:15.39 | j4jackj | heh |
| 03:15.46 | j4jackj | a bogon if you shall |
| 03:17.34 | ChannelZ | I wondered because earlier I just turned off the port forwarding on my box at work but everything still worked. |
| 03:18.18 | ChannelZ | anyway back in a bit.. putting in a new graphics card.. |
| 03:18.35 | Penguin | I recommend power off first. |
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| 04:11.12 | BAK0z | Hi there - I work for a hosted PBX company that uses Asterisk. As part of the security laws in Australia we need to be able to act on requests for phone taps - basically will need to forward the live audio stream of a call to an external number. I've had a look at ChanSpy but it seems more for just listening in on calls - does anybody have suggestions on how to achieve this requirement? |
| 04:14.42 | Penguin | ChanSpy is exactly for spying on calls. |
| 04:15.21 | Penguin | You can connect the ChanSpy to an external phone number, though. |
| 04:16.07 | Penguin | It can quickly be done with channel originate from the CLI or via AMI. |
| 04:17.12 | Penguin | You can also use ChanSpy to record the audio of a call. |
| 04:18.32 | BAK0z | My understanding is you'd still need to activate Chanspy manually - what I'd like to achieve is when/if(?) we receive a request for a number to monitored, we can configure it such that any calls made to/from the extension(s) automatically have their live audio stream forwarded to the provided external number |
| 04:19.46 | Penguin | There's no way to automatically do it. SOMETHING has to trigger it. The rest of it could be done programmatically, but the initiation of it has to be caused by some action. |
| 04:20.06 | Penguin | Your sense of automatic sounds like the PBX would need to be psychic. |
| 04:20.12 | j4jackj | Like a police backdoor? |
| 04:20.55 | Penguin | You can program it to do everything with one click, but you're still going to have to program it. |
| 04:21.37 | BAK0z | can the initation be caused by sending/receiving a call? |
| 04:21.44 | Penguin | Sure. |
| 04:21.58 | j4jackj | Just make sure the police have a special DID for wiretaps |
| 04:22.47 | Penguin | That could work. The cops call the special phone number, enter in some authentication credentials, enter in the phone number they are needing to spy on, and the rest is sirens and flashing lights. |
| 04:23.07 | j4jackj | hehehehehehehhehe |
| 04:23.39 | BAK0z | Oh - sorry, I wasn't aiming for that level of automation. Ideally, they forward us a request, and we make a change to the required extensions so that incoming/outgoing calls have their audio forwarded to the external number |
| 04:24.12 | Penguin | It's all very simple. It is all performed in dial plan or on CLI/AMI. |
| 04:24.26 | BAK0z | If that's doable with Chanspy (via channel originate, you said?) I'll go back and look at it more closely - the Chanspy page on the asterisk wiki didn't indicate it had that functionality |
| 04:24.53 | Penguin | From the asterisk CLI, run "core show application ChanSpy" and read the instructions. |
| 04:25.03 | BAK0z | thanks a lot for your help! |
| 04:25.08 | Penguin | But that is precisely what ChanSpy is for. |
| 04:25.12 | Penguin | Spying on a channel. |
| 04:25.45 | BAK0z | the forwarding to an external number was my hangup (no pun intended) |
| 04:25.53 | Penguin | It's not forwarding. |
| 04:26.07 | Penguin | It will be an actual phone call to the phone number of your choice. |
| 04:26.58 | BAK0z | and chanspy sends the audio from the first call, to the second call (which is to the call recording external number)? |
| 04:26.59 | Penguin | channel originate Local/3149691077@outbound application ChanSpy SIP/someonewhoisbad |
| 04:27.08 | Penguin | for example |
| 04:28.05 | BAK0z | great, thanks :) |
| 04:28.10 | Penguin | This would call extension 3149691077 in the outbound context, and when it answers, it would run ChanSpy(SIP/someonewhoisbad). |
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| 04:45.19 | Penguin | Off to bed I go. |
| 04:47.34 | j4jackj | What happens when you get a bored techie Aspie and the internet together? An Asterisk conference bridge and a small sympathy for furries. (The Asterisk part is what's relevant here) |
| 04:50.40 | ChannelZ | aspie? |
| 04:52.01 | j4jackj | Asperger's syndromwe sufferer |
| 04:53.51 | ChannelZ | oh. Never heard that term before. |
| 04:54.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Asperger's has been dropped from DSM rev 5 |
| 04:54.25 | [TK]D-Fender | "Non-condition" |
| 04:55.35 | BAK0z | in this context it could be Asteriskberger's |
| 05:01.33 | j4jackj | [TK]D-Fender: well tell them to shove the book up their asses |
| 05:02.20 | [TK]D-Fender | I already do. It's the one that defined Asperger's as a "thing" in the first place |
| 05:02.48 | ChannelZ | I think they're just covering their asses so that voting for Hillary can't be classified as a mental disease |
| 05:07.58 | j4jackj | heh |
| 05:08.27 | ChannelZ | hmm. so something has to have changed in *'s handling at some point along the way, for the better. |
| 05:08.45 | j4jackj | ChannelZ: Do you think I should have a one-way audio feed called 'Jdoingrightnow'? |
| 05:09.03 | ChannelZ | I don't know what that means. |
| 05:10.22 | j4jackj | Like a music on hold but using a live feed via a FIFO |
| 05:10.34 | j4jackj | And in sln16 too... |
| 05:11.44 | ChannelZ | so an even more boring audio-only webcam |
| 05:11.56 | j4jackj | heh |
| 05:12.16 | j4jackj | maybe it could be a webcam, with the lens shuttered when it's private |
| 05:12.45 | j4jackj | Does Asterisk support Video on Hold? |
| 05:20.07 | [TK]D-Fender | bed time.... |
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| 06:01.53 | ChannelZ | ok I'm confuzzled. Docs say nat=comedia means |
| 06:02.18 | ChannelZ | "Send media to the port Asterisk received it from regardless of where the SDP says to send it." |
| 06:02.58 | ChannelZ | however that doesn't seem to be what is occuring |
| 06:06.47 | ChannelZ | actually nm. I'm reading my dumps wrong. |
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| 06:36.39 | ChannelZ | huh. My changing nat= in sip.conf seems to be doing nothing.. at least according to 'sip show settings' which says "Force rport: Auto (No)" no matter what I set. |
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| 06:46.01 | ChannelZ | this thing is totally broken |
| 06:46.33 | ChannelZ | And I just discovered the .tar.gz on asterisk.org for 11.5.1, the path in the archive is called 11.4.0 :/ |
| 06:46.50 | ChannelZ | so that just extracted over my current build. |
| 06:47.50 | ChannelZ | ack, nevermind on that.. this !@# naming convention of calling it "asterisk-11-current.tar.gz" sucks |
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| 07:02.32 | j4jackj | I just wonder, does anyone here know of a linux driver for 11c1:0440 ? |
| 07:03.31 | ChannelZ | which is... |
| 07:06.10 | j4jackj | ChannelZ: LSI 56k Winmodem |
| 07:09.04 | j4jackj | I ask because it may be possible to use Celliax with it, if it is an ALSA supported card |
| 07:10.24 | ChannelZ | ok Asterisk 11's NAT handling is (I think) totally hosed. |
| 07:11.47 | j4jackj | heh |
| 07:11.53 | j4jackj | howso? |
| 07:12.49 | ChannelZ | well so I'm fucking with the Blink softphone on Windows. My box is behind my firewall. It's handing out my Win box's LAN IP in the SIP SDP. Which is somewhat typical of clients behind firewalls that aren't aware. |
| 07:13.44 | j4jackj | heh |
| 07:13.47 | ChannelZ | But no matter what I do, Asterisk continues sending RTP to the supplied LAN IP, which of course is wrong (and is also a real LAN IP on the LAN that Asterisk is running on.) |
| 07:13.49 | j4jackj | stun at the asterisk box? |
| 07:15.02 | ChannelZ | No |
| 07:15.30 | j4jackj | It must be tried |
| 07:15.39 | ChannelZ | No, it already knows its WAN IP |
| 07:15.51 | j4jackj | heh |
| 07:15.58 | j4jackj | I mean STUN SERVER at the asterisk box. |
| 07:16.16 | ChannelZ | localnet= even seems hosed. I changed it to a subnet of 192.168.2.0/24 but it still thinks 192.168.1.5 is LAN. |
| 07:16.19 | j4jackj | As in install a stun server in the asterisk box so that people use your Asterisk IP |
| 07:16.38 | j4jackj | That is screwed right the way to hell. |
| 07:16.54 | ChannelZ | Well that's a client fix. Which is the easy way to fix it, but Asterisk should still be able to be made to work this way. |
| 07:17.18 | ChannelZ | And I don't have to run my own stun server for that |
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| 07:18.20 | j4jackj | I hosed my computer. |
| 07:18.30 | j4jackj | It still works, it's just hosed. |
| 07:18.34 | j4jackj | Thatc makes no sense... |
| 07:18.57 | ChannelZ | ? |
| 07:24.34 | PLMg | hello, anyone willing to lend a hand on making send to e-mail work? |
| 07:25.25 | j4jackj | PLMg: that makes no sense. I would recommend regular Comedian Mail. |
| 07:26.14 | PLMg | ok.... using freepbx with asterisk and there is an option that sends voicemail to an e-mail address |
| 07:26.38 | PLMg | it is using the sendmail client in my case |
| 07:27.03 | PLMg | sendmail works, I made sure of that |
| 07:29.14 | kaldemar | PLMg: you'll have better luck in #freepbx. that's configured in voicemail.conf however. |
| 07:30.30 | PLMg | ty kaldemar, that is a big help. If it does not work with freepbx I can manually do it :) |
| 07:31.15 | kaldemar | PLMg: be sure to find out how freepbx handles voicemail.conf, it may write over your manual changes. |
| 07:31.32 | PLMg | will keep an eye on that |
| 07:33.30 | ChannelZ | so whats happening? Is sendmail even getting called? |
| 07:34.05 | PLMg | I do not think so |
| 07:35.07 | PLMg | the recording are stored but I don't seea sign that they are sent |
| 07:35.12 | PLMg | or tried to be sent |
| 07:35.52 | PLMg | on the other hand, it might be that I don't reconise it cause I'm a noob in this aspect |
| 07:36.21 | ChannelZ | are you actually running sendmail? or have you looked at the logs of whatever mailer you are using? |
| 07:36.40 | PLMg | I tied sendmail and it works |
| 07:36.44 | PLMg | tried* |
| 07:36.50 | ChannelZ | not what I asked |
| 07:37.00 | PLMg | no, I did not |
| 07:37.16 | PLMg | u mean the sendmail logs, yes? |
| 07:37.25 | ChannelZ | yes |
| 07:37.34 | ChannelZ | see if it even put anything into the queue, or gave some error, etc. |
| 07:37.52 | ChannelZ | See if mailcmd in voicemail.conf is even the right path |
| 07:37.57 | PLMg | ok, need a min to figure out where they are :) |
| 07:38.11 | ChannelZ | (although freepbx, not sure if that's even in there or somewhere else..) |
| 07:38.44 | j4jackj | Other than me, is anyone here in Prince George, BC, CA? |
| 07:39.26 | PLMg | ok... small issue here |
| 07:39.39 | j4jackj | yes? |
| 07:39.52 | ChannelZ | I'm ~1500mi away in CO |
| 07:40.05 | PLMg | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:40.05 | PLMg | find: `voicemail.conf': No such file or directory |
| 07:40.05 | PLMg | searching for sendmail logs then |
| 07:41.19 | ChannelZ | /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf - but FreePBX probably does realtime, puts it in the database. Do they expose the mailcmd in the GUI? I have no idea, I don't use it |
| 07:42.11 | PLMg | yes they do |
| 07:42.34 | PLMg | in recards to what info to send via e-mail and options like imap and so on |
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| 07:44.33 | PLMg | ok, found the logs of sendmail but I need to perform another test right now to see if anything shows up |
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| 07:50.16 | PLMg | ok, I am a bit closer now, it seems that the voicemail has been tried to be sent |
| 07:51.59 | PLMg | at the end I see this: stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] |
| 07:52.14 | PLMg | so I am guessing it is a sendmail client issue? |
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| 07:56.33 | foamz | hi |
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| 07:57.53 | j4jackj | foamz: are you Alex_Bkash ? |
| 07:59.41 | foamz | i am running a voice termination service connected to a GSM gateway. I'm looking to overhaul the whole solution with something new but want to do some thing I'm not sure is possible. As it stands, I am line bonding 4 lines from the same ISP for load balancing and redundancy. However, each line is very crappy, so I would like to combine the bandwith using something like multiline PPP. The |
| 07:59.41 | foamz | problem is ISP support is non-existant in this country so getting them to turn on support at co/dslam might be impossible. Is there any way to bond the lines, have the packets terminate somewhere to be recombined, then sent out? |
| 08:00.08 | j4jackj | This is the typical Alex_Bkash story. |
| 08:00.30 | j4jackj | Just a different country and less b0rken english. |
| 08:01.00 | foamz | Or some sort of VOIP algorithm that can magically make multiple crappy connections useful? |
| 08:01.18 | foamz | I don't know who that is but maybe I should talk to him |
| 08:01.27 | j4jackj | you seem just like him |
| 08:01.36 | j4jackj | you are mirror images |
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| 09:34.22 | vNistelroot | Hi all |
| 09:35.27 | vNistelroot | Should I take care of anything before deploy the new asterisk version in order to patch the last vulns appeared ? |
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| 10:25.07 | f843d0 | Hi all, is there a way to retrieve the calle_d_ id?I mean,I fear that few _correct_ phone numbers pointing to an extensions are redirected toward the catchall instead of being directed to a certain extension. Would be nice seeing the number that was called by the caller |
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| 10:41.45 | kaldemar | f843d0: ${CALLERID(dnid)} |
| 10:42.53 | kaldemar | f843d0: if your fear is about extension matching not working correctly, you can probably turn the attention elsewhere. |
| 10:44.23 | f843d0 | kaldemar: I see, thanks for your reply |
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| 11:12.31 | _omer | Question related to Queues: If there is a caller in Queue, Asterisk stop calling Agent when it plays "Hold Time", "Position" or periodic-annoucement to caller. Is it possible to Keep calling/ringing Agent while playing annoucements to caller at the same time? |
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| 11:34.43 | bombev | guys I am trying to set diff language in asterisk - Executing [s@macro-dendax-registration:6] Set("SIP/160-00001631", "LANGUAGE()=bg") in new stack |
| 11:34.48 | bombev | Function LANGUAGE not registered |
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| 11:35.36 | bombev | but I have the proper folder "bg" in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds |
| 11:40.10 | bombev | I found my mistake :) exten => s,n,Set(CHANNEL(language)=bg) |
| 11:40.36 | _omer | Question related to Queues: If there is a caller in Queue, Asterisk stop calling Agent when it plays "Hold Time", "Position" or periodic-annoucement to caller. Is it possible to Keep calling/ringing Agent while playing annoucements to caller at the same time? |
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| 11:51.19 | Kernel_Core | hi all |
| 11:52.21 | Kernel_Core | SIP typically is using RTP for transporting the Voice Media in asterisk, but is there any way to use UDPTL instead? asterisk doesn't support RTP FEC and I need some FEC functionality for my media which UDPTL supports ? |
| 11:54.15 | Kernel_Core | I mean is there any way to send g729 or speex traffic with UDPTL instead of RTP in asterisk ? |
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| 12:19.13 | _omer | Question related to Queues: If there is a caller in Queue, Asterisk stop calling Agent when it plays "Hold Time", "Position" or periodic-annoucement to caller. Is it possible to Keep calling/ringing Agent while playing annoucements to caller at the same time? |
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| 12:34.54 | SirLagz | can asterisk record calls ? |
| 12:35.24 | Greenlight | Yes |
| 12:35.36 | Greenlight | core show application MixMonitor |
| 12:35.42 | SirLagz | thanks ! |
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| 12:39.20 | _omer | Question related to Queues: If there is a caller in Queue, Asterisk stop calling Agent when it plays "Hold Time", "Position" or periodic-annoucement to caller. Is it possible to Keep calling/ringing Agent while playing annoucements to caller at the same time? |
| 12:40.57 | [TK]D-Fender | no |
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| 12:41.36 | _omer | Thanks !!! ... I just wanted to double check before saying "NO" to my client. |
| 12:41.40 | _omer | take care. bye |
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| 12:47.06 | Gugge | "It has been 1000 milliseconds, and we got 32 timer ticks", it should be 50 right? :) |
| 12:47.15 | Gugge | output from timing test :) |
| 12:47.34 | WIMPy | yes |
| 12:47.52 | Gugge | i guess this server is under too much load then :) |
| 12:48.00 | Greenlight | Or has a really poor timing source |
| 12:48.09 | Greenlight | 1000/32 will cause major audio issues |
| 12:48.20 | Gugge | moh is really bad yes |
| 12:48.24 | Greenlight | What timing source are you using, and is this a VM ? |
| 12:48.43 | Gugge | its real iron, ubuntu 12.04.3 using timerfd |
| 12:48.51 | Gugge | asterisk 11.5.0 |
| 12:49.18 | Kernel_Core | guys... is there any way to send g729 or speex traffic with UDPTL instead of RTP in asterisk ? |
| 12:49.27 | Gugge | but asterisk is using 150-200% cpu according to top |
| 12:49.29 | Greenlight | Gugge: Load average? |
| 12:49.32 | Greenlight | Heh |
| 12:49.36 | Greenlight | How many CPU's ? |
| 12:49.39 | Greenlight | (/cores) |
| 12:49.40 | Gugge | load os between 6 and 11 |
| 12:49.51 | WIMPy | What does your Asterisk do? |
| 12:49.52 | Gugge | 4 cores (8 shown because of HT) |
| 12:50.05 | Greenlight | So 200% is on the high side, for a max of 400% |
| 12:50.15 | Gugge | hand 280 active channels, doing a lot of different things :) |
| 12:50.25 | Gugge | queues with local channels and stuff |
| 12:50.33 | Greenlight | Queues |
| 12:50.35 | Greenlight | Ok |
| 12:50.49 | WIMPy | Nothing bad so far. Any transcoding or recording? |
| 12:50.51 | Greenlight | I had a very similar issue a few months back |
| 12:50.57 | Gugge | no audio translations though |
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| 12:51.21 | Gugge | all moh and playback soundfiles are .al files, and alaw is the only allowed codec |
| 12:51.50 | Greenlight | If it's the same issue as what I had, then a restart will remedy it |
| 12:51.58 | Greenlight | Has it been getting progressivly worse as time goes on ? |
| 12:52.02 | Gugge | calls are fine, moh and spy are really bad :) |
| 12:52.35 | Gugge | asterisk is restarted every night, and it gets worse and worse |
| 12:52.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Kernel_Core: no |
| 12:53.01 | Greenlight | It starts okay in the morning, and gets worse as the day goes on? Or gets worse related to numer of channels/load ? |
| 12:53.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Kernel_Core: It's only used for T.38 |
| 12:53.09 | Gugge | as the day go in |
| 12:53.17 | Greenlight | Sounds *very* similar to what I had |
| 12:53.24 | Gugge | the highest amount of calls is around 8am, and its fine there :) |
| 12:53.32 | Kernel_Core | [TK]D-Fender, :so it cannot transmit Audio, what about availibity of FEC in RTP ? |
| 12:53.56 | Greenlight | I'd love to tell you I got to the bottom of the cause of it, but I never really did. I just stopped useing asterisk's own queues as heavily, and using LOcal channels less |
| 12:54.02 | Greenlight | Are you using FreePBX ? |
| 12:54.16 | Gugge | not using freepbx no |
| 12:54.39 | Greenlight | That's interesting, points the finger at queues |
| 12:54.48 | Greenlight | I always suspected them |
| 12:55.25 | Gugge | i guess 80% of my calls are using queues :) |
| 12:56.02 | Greenlight | Yes |
| 12:56.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Kernel_Core: Unfamiliar with... |
| 12:56.19 | Greenlight | I did a lot of debugging and even had some consultants look it |
| 12:56.45 | Gugge | i guess i just have to spread the load between multiple servers |
| 12:56.48 | Greenlight | We had a few ideas, but couldn't explain why it got worse as the uptime increase, it had the feeling of a leak |
| 12:57.08 | Greenlight | Since stopping useage of queues, we have double your load now. |
| 12:57.25 | Greenlight | WE just use an AMI app to do our own queueing |
| 12:57.46 | Kernel_Core | [TK]D-Fender, : thank you ! actually I am going to run some simulation to analyze the roubustness of codecs with Low Bit-rate Redundancy and FEC ( Forward Error Correction) in bursty loss packet situation... |
| 12:58.38 | Gugge | Greenlight: i gotta try that next :) |
| 12:58.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Kernel_Core: Cech out in #asterisk-dev for this stuff esp as * 12 has another SIP stack coming |
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| 12:59.13 | Greenlight | Since the finger is now firmly pointed at queues, mayhbe try disabling persistant queue members if you're able to. |
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| 12:59.25 | Greenlight | And try putting the astdb on a ramdisk |
| 12:59.55 | Kernel_Core | [TK]D-Fender, : Thank you ! |
| 13:00.16 | Greenlight | WOuld be really interested to hear how you get on, as this issue sounds like *exactly* what I had, and it caused me SOO much stress a few months back |
| 13:00.53 | Gugge | Greenlight: its all realtime queues, so it shouldnt be storing the members in astdb |
| 13:01.32 | Greenlight | Hmm, it doesn't even cache the current members there / |
| 13:02.14 | Gugge | yes, but not in astdb as far as i can tell |
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| 13:02.40 | Greenlight | One person I had looking at it said there was a "master" queue lock, and that it could be contention related to thos. |
| 13:04.15 | Gugge | gotta love stuff like this :) |
| 13:04.52 | Greenlight | "love" is not the word I'd choose :) |
| 13:05.04 | Gugge | heh |
| 13:05.28 | Greenlight | At one point we were even investigating network card drivers |
| 13:05.32 | Greenlight | And the kernel scheduler |
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| 13:07.00 | Gugge | yep, im pretty sure its not that, as normal call audio is fine, its "only" moh/spy/meetme stuff :) |
| 13:07.20 | Greenlight | Yea, it was anything timing related for us as well |
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| 13:09.07 | Greenlight | Most our theories were blown out of the water with the fact it gets progressively worse as the uptime increased |
| 13:09.22 | Greenlight | That was the bit which didn't make any sense. |
| 13:09.48 | Greenlight | And I guess there's not a lot of folks who are using queues's as much as us for that scale. |
| 13:10.55 | Gugge | Apparently i do :P |
| 13:11.02 | Greenlight | Indeed |
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| 13:16.36 | Greenlight | Maybe one of the devs who's involved in the queue code will have an idea, fingers crossed! |
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| 13:31.57 | BarthezZ | hmm, shouldn't libpri compile and install to /usr/lib64/ on a 64bit system, in stead of /usr/lib? |
| 13:33.16 | Penguin | gugge: Did you try other timing sources, specifically dahdi? Just wondering. |
| 13:34.02 | Gugge | Penguin: yes, its about the same |
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| 13:36.20 | Penguin | I forgot how to show which timing sources I have available. |
| 13:36.53 | Gugge | module show like timing |
| 13:37.20 | Penguin | I guess I got rid of the other two; only dahdi is loaded. |
| 13:38.18 | Penguin | I was thinking there was another command that would even show which order they were used in. |
| 13:38.32 | igcewieling | timerfd seems to give me rock solid timing, dahdi (even with a hardware card) does not. |
| 13:38.32 | Penguin | when there is more than one, that is. |
| 13:39.25 | Gugge | there is an hardcoded order, i cant remember it though :) |
| 13:39.33 | Gugge | timerfd is first as far as i remember :) |
| 13:39.53 | Gugge | timerfd kqueue and then i dont remember if dahdi is before pthread |
| 13:39.54 | Penguin | I was thinking it was dahdi, pthread, timerfd. |
| 13:40.00 | igcewieling | Penguin: there is a document somewhere which talks about the order |
| 13:40.26 | Penguin | I'll scroll back in my logs where we've discussed it before. |
| 13:40.49 | Gugge | can i forceunload a module (module unload fails if its in use) |
| 13:41.07 | igcewieling | https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Timing+Interfaces |
| 13:41.16 | Greenlight | We tried dahdi with hardware, timerfd and pthreads with that issue; all no effect. It's an asterisk core issue |
| 13:41.21 | igcewieling | Gugge: if the module is in use you cannot unload it. |
| 13:42.02 | Gugge | damn, i would like to try to reload the queue, but finding a time where its not in use is not easy :) |
| 13:42.24 | igcewieling | Gugge: you can reload, but you cannot unload / load |
| 13:44.23 | Gugge | but if something in that module leaks, is a reload enough to get rid of that? |
| 13:44.32 | Gugge | or is it just reloading config stuff |
| 13:45.18 | Greenlight | From what I can remember, even an asterisk restart didn't help |
| 13:45.27 | Greenlight | But not 100% on that one |
| 13:46.18 | Greenlight | And I know, it makse no sense. |
| 13:46.29 | Gugge | restart worked for me ... for some time :) |
| 13:47.45 | Greenlight | timing looking good again after just an asterik restart? |
| 13:48.27 | Gugge | yes |
| 13:50.16 | Greenlight | And, you said you're on ubuntu ? |
| 13:50.37 | Gugge | yes |
| 13:51.01 | Greenlight | hmm our boxes with the issue were centos |
| 13:52.41 | igcewieling | "One common misconception which has arisen is that since timing can be provided elsewhere, DAHDI is no longer required for using the MeetMe application. Unfortunately, this is not the case. In addition to providing timing, DAHDI also provides a conferencing engine which the MeetMe application requires." |
| 13:52.44 | Gugge | ill have to setup some more monitoring to check if the load is slowly getting worse after restart |
| 13:53.05 | Gugge | correct, dahdi is needed for meetme (but not dahdi_timing) |
| 13:53.10 | Greenlight | Yes, igcewieling, dahdi is needed for meetme |
| 13:53.23 | Greenlight | BUt you can still use a different timing source for other stuff |
| 13:53.29 | igcewieling | lots of people think that is not the case, which is why I pasted that |
| 13:53.46 | Greenlight | I use ConfBridge |
| 13:53.50 | Gugge | you dont even nned res_timing_dahdi loaded for meetme to work |
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| 13:55.02 | Greenlight | My understanding is that the meetme mixing all happens on a single thread, so it doesn't scales as well as ConfBridge. |
| 13:58.32 | Gugge | switching to confbridge is on my todo list :) |
| 13:58.46 | Gugge | But its not at the top :P |
| 13:58.55 | Penguin | Which asterisk branch are you using? |
| 13:59.03 | Gugge | 11.5 |
| 13:59.18 | Penguin | In 1.8, ConfBridge is very lacking. |
| 13:59.35 | Gugge | i dont really use any of the fancy features :) |
| 13:59.36 | Penguin | It works, but isn't robust. |
| 13:59.59 | Penguin | But I heard that as of 10 it is much better. |
| 14:00.23 | Greenlight | It's certainly really nice in 11 |
| 14:01.32 | Penguin | If a module has a use count of more than 0, is there some way to show what is using the module? |
| 14:04.11 | Gugge | Greenlight: did you write your own queue functions from scratch with AGI, or did you use some public available stuff? :) |
| 14:04.36 | WIMPy | Greenlight: You're correct about the mixing. |
| 14:05.06 | Greenlight | Well we had a CRM system connected in via the AMI anyway which was doing screen pops of customer detials etc, so it wasn't a bit stretch for us to change the code and make it actually do the queueing instead of asterisk |
| 14:05.32 | Gugge | okay |
| 14:06.01 | Greenlight | It actually worked out really nicely cause we can define much more precise queueing rules - since queues are now just lists of objects in our C# app |
| 14:06.02 | igcewieling | Penguin: which module has a non=0 use count? |
| 14:06.19 | Greenlight | I *think* igcewieling also does a lot of custom queue stuff too |
| 14:06.44 | igcewieling | Greenlight: Queues are evil. I hunt them, kill them, and mount them on my wall for fun. |
| 14:06.50 | Greenlight | See ^^ |
| 14:07.09 | Penguin | res_timing_dahdi.so DAHDI Timing Interface 5 |
| 14:07.17 | igcewieling | Penguin: do you have 5 active calls? |
| 14:07.25 | Penguin | Nope, 0 active. |
| 14:07.47 | Greenlight | 0 calls, and 5 instrances of dahdi use.. odd |
| 14:07.48 | Penguin | I'd just like to see what 5 things are using dahdi timing. |
| 14:08.17 | Penguin | I haven't even had any calls at all since the last asterisk restart. |
| 14:08.32 | igcewieling | Penguin: that makes no sense. the timing interface should only have usage when there are calls. |
| 14:08.38 | Greenlight | Indeed |
| 14:08.49 | Greenlight | It does seem perculiar |
| 14:08.58 | igcewieling | do you have MoH, maybe that is doing it |
| 14:09.09 | Greenlight | Even with no calls ? |
| 14:09.14 | Penguin | I do have moh, but there are 0 active channels/calls. |
| 14:09.33 | igcewieling | in fact when I swith timing interfaces on a live system I load a higher priority timer and wait for all new calls to use the new timer, once all old calls end I unload the old timer. |
| 14:09.49 | Penguin | It sounds like you're saying there's no way to check what uses a particular module. |
| 14:09.51 | igcewieling | Greenlight: MoH can play when there are no calls. see mpg123 |
| 14:09.59 | igcewieling | Penguin: I'm not aware of any way? |
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| 14:14.20 | Penguin | It was moh using it. |
| 14:14.37 | Penguin | I unloaded res_musiconhold.so and the use count went to 0. |
| 14:15.11 | Penguin | I loaded timerfd, loaded musiconhold, and then the use count of 5 moved to timerfd. |
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| 14:15.30 | Penguin | It's because of mpg123 playing mp3s for moh. |
| 14:20.59 | igcewieling | Ta da! |
| 14:21.23 | igcewieling | why are you using mpg123, that is like trying to drive nascar with a model T |
| 14:22.14 | Penguin | I think that's what Asterisk chose to use. |
| 14:22.38 | igcewieling | my original mpg123 command was mostly a joke. no sane person uses mpg123 anymore |
| 14:22.53 | igcewieling | Penguin: maybe leftover setup from back in your 1.2 days? |
| 14:23.10 | igcewieling | I think Asterisk 1.4 around 2005 deprecated mpg123 |
| 14:23.13 | Penguin | It's what 1.8 uses, it appears. |
| 14:23.46 | igcewieling | Penguin: It can, but does not by default. look at your musiconhold.conf and the musiconhold.conf.sample |
| 14:24.13 | Penguin | It must by default, because there is nothing in my musiconhold.conf to tell it to use mpg123. It just simply uses it. |
| 14:24.14 | igcewieling | I think FreePBX still uses it |
| 14:24.23 | igcewieling | pastebin your musiconhold |
| 14:24.31 | igcewieling | .conf |
| 14:25.12 | igcewieling | that might make sense if you did something stupid like leave all your MOH in .mp3 format and did not load format_mp3 into Asterisk. |
| 14:25.56 | igcewieling | sings "Gratuitous Transcoding" (to the tune of Gratuitous Nudity) |
| 14:26.07 | Penguin | I have several mp3s in the mp3 directory. mpg123 is what asterisk chose to play those files. |
| 14:26.37 | igcewieling | convert them to a standard Asterisk format so you are not transcoding 24/7/375 |
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| 14:26.45 | igcewieling | or load format_mp3 |
| 14:26.57 | jkroon | hi guys, the initial rx|txgain set in chan_dahdi.conf - is that hwgain or swgain? |
| 14:27.00 | igcewieling | Even FreePBX converts MoH to a supported Asterisk format. |
| 14:27.31 | Penguin | format_mp3 is also loaded. |
| 14:28.16 | igcewieling | pastebin your musiconhold.conf |
| 14:29.36 | igcewieling | jkroon: why does it matter? |
| 14:30.17 | Penguin | igcewieling: http://pastebin.com/Rkc0NMEY |
| 14:30.35 | jkroon | igcewieling, because I'm filing a bug against chan_dahdi for not updating the output to "dahdi show channel" when using set hw|swgain |
| 14:30.55 | igcewieling | if you use mode=files you won't get mpg123 running |
| 14:31.18 | igcewieling | jkroon: ask on #asterisk-dev, mention you are filing a bug report |
| 14:31.41 | igcewieling | Penguin: do you actually use all those MoH classes? |
| 14:32.22 | Penguin | Periodically. Most of the time, no. |
| 14:34.12 | Penguin | Since there are 5 classes using the mp3 directory, I bet I can remove three classes and reduce it to use count of 2. |
| 14:34.45 | Penguin | When I used mode of mp3, the moh didn't work. The fix was changing to files. |
| 14:35.27 | Penguin | At least that's how I seem to remember it. |
| 14:35.36 | Penguin | It has been a long time since I configured that. |
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| 14:46.17 | jeffspeff | i'm trying to use the SMS app, and whenever i try to send a message from my cell phone to one of my DID's the cell phone says that the number is invalid. I can dial the DID and asterisk asnwers it and starts the SMS app, so i know the number is good. |
| 14:46.33 | Penguin | I don't know, now. I turned off all but the default, and switched default to type of mp3, and it plays. |
| 14:46.46 | Penguin | moh show files doesn't show the files, but the music plays. |
| 14:50.21 | WIMPy | jeffspeff: Is there a gateway available? What country? |
| 14:50.55 | jeffspeff | WIMPy, I'm in the US. I thought that the gateway would be from the mobile provider |
| 14:51.09 | WIMPy | Indeed. |
| 14:52.02 | igcewieling | jeffspeff: if you want to not confuse people, then stop using the term "SMS". |
| 14:52.16 | igcewieling | jeffspeff: no providers in the USA allow public access to their SMScs |
| 14:52.36 | WIMPy | Somehow the message needs to be forwarded from the PLMNs SMSC to the PSTNs SMSC. And are you sure you can use the SMS app? That's for ETSI protocoll via modem. Is that used in the US? |
| 14:52.55 | jeffspeff | igcewieling, then what should I call the SMS app? https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4260046 |
| 14:52.58 | igcewieling | WIMPy: no, it isn't. app_sms is not useful in the USA |
| 14:53.14 | WIMPy | That's what I expected. |
| 14:53.21 | igcewieling | jeffspeff: THAT is real SMS. You can't use that because you are in the USA. |
| 14:53.29 | jeffspeff | figures |
| 14:53.35 | igcewieling | So, what you really need is called "text messaging" or similar. |
| 14:54.00 | igcewieling | I believe the voip-info.org qiki page covers that |
| 14:54.02 | jeffspeff | my goal is to receive pictures texted to me from employees in the field |
| 14:54.16 | igcewieling | jeffspeff: best of luck with that. |
| 14:54.25 | Greenlight | Can't they use email ? |
| 14:54.34 | Penguin | I've never understood the whole "sending images with a TEXT message" thing. |
| 14:54.35 | igcewieling | I get pics on my phone all the time, but they are sent as e-mail |
| 14:54.36 | Greenlight | Much cheaper and less limited |
| 14:54.40 | jeffspeff | Greenlight, they're not quite bright enough for email |
| 14:54.45 | WIMPy | SMS to e-mail. |
| 14:55.07 | WIMPy | (if that's available) |
| 14:55.13 | Greenlight | How can they be not bright enough for email. Most phones have an "email" button when you take a photo. |
| 14:55.35 | igcewieling | jeffspeff: is "bob@fnords.org" any harder than "12125551212" to put in the To: box of the message? |
| 14:55.40 | jeffspeff | Greenlight, these people honestly make me wonder who ties their shoes in the morning. I wouldn't be surprised if they all used velcro shoes. |
| 14:55.51 | Greenlight | Oh, sales people ? |
| 14:55.55 | bacobart | there must be an app for that |
| 14:55.57 | WIMPy | There seem to be an increasing number of people who aren't able to use e-mail on their desktop computers. |
| 14:55.57 | bacobart | something like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.exoprimus.photomail |
| 14:56.03 | jeffspeff | no, telephony "engineers" |
| 14:56.11 | Greenlight | Ahh, yes. |
| 14:56.47 | WIMPy | They can't send or receive messages (of any kind) without facebook. |
| 14:57.06 | jeffspeff | i'm not even sure they can use facebook. |
| 14:57.21 | jeffspeff | they definitely give me job security though |
| 14:57.27 | Greenlight | heh |
| 14:57.37 | igcewieling | jeffspeff: sounds like your only option is to spend money on an SMS service provider |
| 14:58.02 | WIMPy | wonders when the first people will appear that can't use a normal phone but only skype or something. |
| 14:58.05 | igcewieling | s/spend/waste |
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| 15:02.49 | EmleyMoor | Is there a way to program ringback/camp for external numbers? (I'm guessing not) |
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| 15:03.59 | Greenlight | You mean when they're busy ? |
| 15:04.15 | jeffspeff | igcewieling, above you mentioned that providers in the US don't allow public access to their SMScs; but if i'm a paying customer of theirs with mobile phone on their network then that isn't public access is it? |
| 15:04.41 | EmleyMoor | Greenlight: Yes... so that the caller can hang up and be alerted when it's available... though I can see how it may well not be possible. |
| 15:04.44 | igcewieling | jeffspeff: yes, just plug your phone into your asterisk box and you are good to go! |
| 15:04.55 | igcewieling | What I MEANT is they do not allow public access over the PSTN. |
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| 15:05.19 | WIMPy | EmleyMoor: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=5243096 |
| 15:05.25 | Greenlight | EmleyMoor: Normally you'd have no way to get an indication that the external number is available. So the only method is to keep retying it say every 30 seconds until it's no longer busy. |
| 15:05.27 | jeffspeff | igcewieling, but i'm wanting to send from mobile (paying customer) to another did. |
| 15:05.42 | jeffspeff | i can send from ATT phone to Verizon or any other phone all day long |
| 15:05.45 | igcewieling | jeffspeff: you mean to another cell number |
| 15:05.59 | Greenlight | WIMPy: That's for internal extension though, isn't it ? |
| 15:06.04 | jeffspeff | igcewieling, from cell to landline or voip |
| 15:06.16 | EmleyMoor | Greenlight: Keep redialling while caller holds? That was another idea I had... |
| 15:06.26 | igcewieling | jeffspeff: never gonna happen |
| 15:06.33 | WIMPy | Greenlight: No, it's meant to work with the PSTN as well. |
| 15:06.39 | Greenlight | WEll, perhaps keeping the caller holding defeats the purpose, but yea you could |
| 15:06.45 | Greenlight | WIMPy: Really... how? |
| 15:06.58 | Greenlight | goes to read it all |
| 15:07.17 | WIMPy | The PSTN has the features CCBS and CCNR. |
| 15:08.27 | Greenlight | I've never seen them exposed through an ITSP before; although perhaps I've not looked hard enough |
| 15:08.34 | eZz | hello. I have an issue with * 1.8.20.1, it's works, but after some time (a couple of days) it's stops accept any calls / registrations / etc else. It's works internally but no errors / etc else. What do you think is a problem ? I see only one possible issue - a system time, since it is on VM - a system clock going forward a lot |
| 15:08.53 | WIMPy | Greenlight: I doubt there are any. |
| 15:09.12 | EmleyMoor | I've got it working with the PSTN side ringback - that's detectable in the caller ID. |
| 15:09.14 | Greenlight | I could *maybe* see some ISDN circuits allowing it |
| 15:09.29 | WIMPy | eZz Might be an DNS issue, but you should |
| 15:09.33 | WIMPy | ~upgrade asterisk |
| 15:09.34 | infobot | Before requesting assistance, you should be running the latest version of a supported release branch. See the channel topic for the latest versions available in currently supported branches. |
| 15:09.56 | eZz | WIMPy: indeed, this happened after I switched from ip to dns name |
| 15:09.58 | Greenlight | Weezey: How are you correcting the clock slips? |
| 15:10.00 | WIMPy | Greenlight: They cerrtainly do. |
| 15:10.54 | Penguin | weezey? I think you mean ezz. |
| 15:10.56 | eZz | WIMPy: so you're consider upgrading to 11.x ? |
| 15:11.07 | Greenlight | Penguin: Yea, autocomplete fail |
| 15:11.13 | eZz | :D |
| 15:11.32 | Greenlight | eZz: Do you run local caching dns ? |
| 15:11.33 | Penguin | ezz: How did you come up with "change to a totally different branch" by his suggestion of upgrading to the current version? |
| 15:11.49 | eZz | Greenlight: I'm using ntpdate hourly, ntp daemon can't synch it too precious |
| 15:12.03 | eZz | Greenlight: nope, using an ISP dns |
| 15:12.40 | Greenlight | eZz: In regards clock changes, try to use the daemon. I've killed boxes by changing clock too much before. And run local cachine dns. if dns fails, you box will do weird stuff |
| 15:12.41 | eZz | I do not use any version-depended features |
| 15:12.43 | WIMPy | I'd certainly go for 11.5, yes. |
| 15:12.47 | eZz | so I can switch to new branch |
| 15:12.55 | Penguin | 1.8.23.1 is the current version in the branch that you are alreaday using. |
| 15:13.11 | igcewieling | read ALL the UPGRADE*.txt files when uypgrading between major versions |
| 15:13.19 | Greenlight | However, if your VM has that degree of clock slip, I'd be rather worried. |
| 15:13.31 | Greenlight | Bet MoH plays well ... |
| 15:13.48 | eZz | Greenlight: I tried to use ntpd but for some reasons, it is not being synched, even during a month |
| 15:14.05 | WIMPy | Yes, using ntpd would be the right way. The jumps caused by running ntpdate ca do bad things. |
| 15:14.06 | eZz | perhaps this is behind a firewall/nat, however ntpdate works |
| 15:14.13 | Penguin | greenlight: I ran into a serious clock problem when using FreeBSD in an ESXi environment. There was a fix for it, though, so it wasn't too horrible to overcome. |
| 15:14.25 | igcewieling | you know ntpd has nothing to do with t-1/e-1 sync, right? |
| 15:15.07 | WIMPy | doesn't expect hardware interfaces. |
| 15:15.15 | eZz | I'm not using e/t |
| 15:15.18 | eZz | only sip |
| 15:15.22 | igcewieling | "Comfort noise support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389). Please turn off on client if possible. Client IP: 209.220.119.19" |
| 15:15.43 | igcewieling | Where DO I turn off comfort noise on Asterisk 11 (209.220.119.19) |
| 15:16.03 | Greenlight | He's using a VM; I'd be amazed if he has hardware cards working |
| 15:16.03 | Penguin | Is that IP address one of your systems? |
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| 15:19.07 | eZz | so, what can do you suggest to do first ? Install a local dns or try to fix timing issues somehow? |
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| 15:19.18 | Greenlight | Both. |
| 15:19.22 | bananapie | how do I get asterisk to ring busy when no codecs are offered in the sdp? |
| 15:19.48 | Penguin | "ring busy" |
| 15:19.52 | Penguin | Sounds contradictory. |
| 15:20.07 | bananapie | I mean return SIP 486 Busy here |
| 15:20.13 | Greenlight | You don't, surely |
| 15:20.18 | Greenlight | Since that would be incorrect |
| 15:20.33 | Greenlight | It's not busy, it just can't negotiate a codec |
| 15:20.39 | Penguin | Instead of the call dying, you want a busy signal. |
| 15:20.42 | bananapie | yes |
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| 15:21.11 | Penguin | I don't know if that's possible. Maybe if you rewrite the sip channel driver or something. |
| 15:21.41 | Penguin | Ideally, you'll fix the codec problem so that you never encounter a lack of negotiated codec. |
| 15:22.05 | [TK]D-Fender | [11:19]bananapiehow do I get asterisk to ring busy when no codecs are offered in the sdp? <- not happening unless you recode chan_sip.c |
| 15:22.06 | bananapie | yea, it's my SIP trunk that is sending no codecs |
| 15:22.26 | Greenlight | Why would you want to tell your users that it's BUSY when it's really not. |
| 15:22.27 | bananapie | my SIP Trunk is sending me SDPs that have "m=audio 36212 RTP/AVP 18 0 101. |
| 15:22.27 | bananapie | a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000" and no audio |
| 15:23.07 | bananapie | how about forcing a reinvite on answer that would negociate PCMU ? |
| 15:23.37 | Katty | prods [TK]D-Fender's clavicle |
| 15:23.47 | Greenlight | How are you going to answer, without having negotiated a codec |
| 15:23.48 | Penguin | If your ITSP doesn't offer any codecs, there's nothing you can do about that on your side of the call. |
| 15:24.00 | bananapie | Ok, I told my ITSP 30 minutes ago |
| 15:24.04 | bananapie | and it's still broken |
| 15:24.18 | Greenlight | So, wait longer, or get a new ITSP. |
| 15:24.24 | bananapie | ok thanks |
| 15:24.38 | bananapie | it's funny, when I called them, someone answered right away |
| 15:24.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Uncool. It shifted on Monday and i'm back in the sling for a while longer.... |
| 15:24.48 | Katty | yuck :< |
| 15:24.55 | Katty | wish they'd do some xrays or something. |
| 15:25.04 | bananapie | when I called back a few minutes later, it took like 10 minutes to talk to someone |
| 15:25.12 | bananapie | I guess all their customers are calling at the same time. |
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| 15:26.03 | Katty | feels like an opera day. |
| 15:26.07 | Katty | la boheme, maybe. |
| 15:26.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: They didn't even... I spend 10 minutes there tops |
| 15:26.22 | [TK]D-Fender | spent* |
| 15:26.26 | Katty | me nods |
| 15:26.32 | Katty | nods, now with more /! |
| 15:27.24 | Katty | i'd give them a piece of my mind. |
| 15:27.29 | Katty | they always want to do xrays down here |
| 15:28.06 | Katty | they even did xrays on my pup when he was limping |
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| 16:04.19 | Blashyrkh | i have a problem with a t.38 communication, |
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| 16:09.49 | igcewieling | Blashyrkh: Don't feel alone, everyone has problems with T.38 communications |
| 16:10.11 | Greenlight | Get a PSTN line, and and good old fax machine. |
| 16:10.23 | Blashyrkh | i have two asterisk stations one acting as a gateway to a sip trunk and the other one is connected to some ss7 ports |
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| 16:11.13 | igcewieling | Blashyrkh: In Asterisk T.38 Gateway means something VERY SPECIFIC. |
| 16:13.38 | Blashyrkh | there is a database check run in the dialplan and it sets FAXOPT(gateway)=yes) |
| 16:14.57 | Blashyrkh | and it relays the t38 invite to the ss7 connected machine, but gets a 488 not acceptable here back |
| 16:17.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Blashyrkh: Don't just give us a story... confim your versions and show us the complete debug |
| 16:17.09 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 16:17.09 | infobot | A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
| 16:17.10 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^ |
| 16:17.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Blashyrkh: AAnd show all relevant configs |
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| 16:35.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Yup... zero evidence.... |
| 16:37.16 | igcewieling | indeed |
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| 16:44.11 | Katty | SRUFFELL |
| 16:44.13 | Katty | WHY I OUTTA |
| 16:44.14 | Katty | JUST |
| 16:44.18 | Katty | straighten your tie. |
| 16:44.25 | Katty | straightens sruffell's tie for him. |
| 16:48.32 | sruffell | why thank you. I did feel something was slightly off this morning (and in general) |
| 16:48.49 | jmetro | i woke up at 5 today |
| 16:48.51 | jmetro | and yesterday |
| 16:48.52 | jmetro | =( |
| 16:57.50 | Katty | jmetro: :< |
| 16:57.53 | Katty | jmetro: stress? |
| 16:59.38 | jmetro | early work |
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| 17:04.43 | igcewieling | Now I've seen it all: http://www.420-wireless.com/ |
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| 17:06.00 | Greenlight | lol |
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| 17:11.22 | j4jackj | Hello *people! |
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| 17:14.27 | skrusty | hi, it's been a long time since i've used ISDN with asteirsk. my isdn card is setup, and aserisk shows 3 channels (2 + d) |
| 17:14.45 | jmetro | is that normal |
| 17:14.55 | skrusty | but i can't remember how i setup the trunk to dial out via :// can anyone point me in the right direction |
| 17:15.16 | skrusty | sorry, asteirks is showing 2 channels |
| 17:15.19 | skrusty | not d, my mistake! |
| 17:15.36 | jmetro | you want the d? |
| 17:15.48 | skrusty | but i can't remember how i the dial via it |
| 17:16.02 | skrusty | no, i dont need the d channel to show up i don't think |
| 17:17.34 | igcewieling | skrusty: you dial using your DAHDI BRI card exactly the same as dialing any other DAHDI port. |
| 17:17.43 | igcewieling | Dial(DAHDI/1/12125551212) |
| 17:18.27 | skrusty | ok, how do you group the channels? |
| 17:19.17 | j4jackj | heh, tough nut. |
| 17:19.27 | igcewieling | Dial(DAHDI/g1/12125551212) and Dial(DAHDI/G1/12125551212) you know all of this is covered in the documentation, right? |
| 17:20.36 | skrusty | yes, and thank yo for helping either way, but i keep getting: Unable to create channel of type 'DAHDI' |
| 17:21.08 | j4jackj | Did you load the DAHDI module? |
| 17:21.22 | j4jackj | It would likely be chan_dahdi.so |
| 17:23.09 | skrusty | yes |
| 17:24.00 | igcewieling | then you have some other problem. |
| 17:24.04 | skrusty | although now just setting the span (1) im not getting it |
| 17:24.11 | skrusty | i just think there is an issue with the ISDN |
| 17:24.21 | skrusty | sorry to have been a pain! |
| 17:24.27 | igcewieling | OK. come back if it still doesn't work after you've contacted your carrier. |
| 17:24.43 | j4jackj | The scourge of double spacing |
| 17:24.48 | skrusty | geting hangup cause 18 (network out of order) |
| 17:24.57 | skrusty | damn BT |
| 17:31.15 | Katty | jmetro: ah right, well i'm glad it's not stress :> |
| 17:31.31 | Katty | smiles at j4jackj |
| 17:31.40 | Katty | j4jackj: did you bring enough Krave to share with the class? |
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| 17:33.29 | jmetro | Katty: cream cheese in filo dough, |
| 17:33.44 | Katty | warm, i hope? |
| 17:33.58 | Katty | with chocolate drizzle? ^_^ |
| 17:34.13 | jmetro | warm, no chocolate. |
| 17:34.18 | jmetro | its savory not sweet |
| 17:38.00 | jmetro | its like a spinach-less spanakopita |
| 17:39.03 | j4jackj | Katty: I didn'h even bring any for myself! :D |
| 17:39.36 | Katty | useless! |
| 17:39.39 | Katty | oh well. |
| 17:39.42 | Katty | i didn't bring any either. |
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| 17:45.35 | Katty | jmetro: ah right. can't say i've ever had anything like that before then |
| 17:45.44 | Katty | jmetro: i may have to investigate spanakopita |
| 17:47.54 | jmetro | spanakopita is a very common hors d'oeurve |
| 17:48.03 | jmetro | spinach & cheese in filo |
| 17:51.22 | drmessano | Spanakopita is super popular and very tasty. You'll find it by every name other than its proper name lol |
| 17:52.22 | Katty | hi danny |
| 17:52.28 | drmessano | Hello |
| 17:52.34 | Katty | your lady still getting on your nerves? |
| 17:52.59 | drmessano | On my nerves? No. I am glad she's not dying |
| 17:53.12 | drmessano | Been the worst three days I can remember |
| 17:53.13 | Katty | oh? i must have missed something... |
| 17:53.20 | Katty | goes to investigate |
| 17:53.24 | igcewieling | read that as spank-opia |
| 17:53.41 | jmetro | i still think of it as spankanopia |
| 17:54.16 | Katty | drmessano: not appendix, clearly. |
| 17:54.27 | Katty | drmessano: if it was appendix, the surgery would already be over with. |
| 17:54.30 | drmessano | Well, in 18 hours we went from Stomach ache > Appendicitis > Kidney Stones > Giant mass that looks like cancer and go to your lady doc IMMEDIATELY NOW > Lady part issues that will resolve in a day or two with ibuprofen |
| 17:54.47 | Katty | cyst? |
| 17:54.50 | Katty | ovarian cyst? |
| 17:55.17 | drmessano | Apparently a GIANT CANCEROUS MASS looks exactly like a simple ovarian cyst when you're stupid enough to use a CT scan to diagnose it |
| 17:55.34 | Katty | nods grimmly |
| 17:55.43 | Katty | unfortunately, i went to the doctor with the same thing about 3 years ago or so |
| 17:55.56 | Katty | it turned out i had appendicitis, and not an ovarian cyst tho |
| 17:56.25 | igcewieling | I've come to the conclusion that doctors are pretty useless for most things. |
| 17:56.35 | Katty | igcewieling: some more than others |
| 17:56.43 | Katty | drmessano: regardless, i'm glad she's doing better |
| 17:56.43 | jmetro | doctors will ALWAYS do as little work as possible |
| 17:56.49 | drmessano | He drew the damn thing out.. showing us where the discolored regions were, the odd structure, the reason he was so alarmed.. He gave us the solemn talk and everything. Go to the lady doctor and she's like "Oh, thats a pretty cyst. Take some ibuprofen and give it a couple days" |
| 17:56.50 | Katty | drmessano: and that the head games are, for the most part, over |
| 17:56.54 | jmetro | i have not met many smart or motivated doctors, lets put it that way. |
| 17:57.18 | Katty | i've met some motivated doctors. |
| 17:57.21 | igcewieling | I'm unsuccessfully dealing with medical issues lately |
| 17:57.22 | Katty | but not in the way they should have been. |
| 17:57.26 | drmessano | Katty, it wasn't even a "complex cyst" which was the "best case scenario".. it was as textbook of a simple one as it gets |
| 17:57.36 | Katty | sighs |
| 17:57.38 | Katty | hugs drmessano |
| 17:57.39 | drmessano | Im still so fscking angry |
| 17:57.47 | igcewieling | drmessano: you should be. |
| 17:58.02 | Katty | drmessano: there will probably be a lot more crying |
| 17:58.11 | Katty | drmessano: stress like that just doesn't go away quickly |
| 17:58.22 | Katty | drmessano: and there will be paranoia for a good long time |
| 17:58.56 | Katty | igcewieling: what sort of medical issues are you dealing with? |
| 17:59.16 | igcewieling | Katty: complicated. |
| 17:59.27 | Katty | those are the worst kind. |
| 17:59.57 | igcewieling | Lets leave it at my main dr saying (after the first round of tests) "If you turn yellow before you see the specialist go to the hospital immediatly" |
| 18:00.02 | drmessano | Katty, actually, no paranoia at this point. I think we've taken great comfort in the fact that she has an AWESOME GYN. I mean, the ultrasound tech was telling us just how very wrong the ER doc was before we even spoke to the GYN. It was THAT OBVIOUS. I told her for now on, if its below the navel, we're going to her FIRST.. I don't care what it is. |
| 18:00.36 | igcewieling | Well, golly, Mr. Doctor Sir, I KNOW I'm sick. Thank you for confirming it. |
| 18:00.45 | Katty | pats igcewieling |
| 18:00.50 | Katty | igcewieling: you're a tough cookie tho. |
| 18:01.13 | Katty | igcewieling: and it makes a person strong, and appreciate life |
| 18:01.57 | igcewieling | Katty: my plan is to go along with what they recommend and try to die on their doorstep. |
| 18:02.16 | igcewieling | not exactly practical, but it makes me feel a little better. |
| 18:02.25 | Katty | nods |
| 18:02.36 | Katty | well, if shit does hit the fan, on their doorstep is the safest place to be |
| 18:02.36 | drmessano | igcewieling, nothing like a GP to confirm their overwhelming incompetence. My big scare was the year before last.. Had an MRI checking for MS after I lost partial vision in my right eye. They found a bunch of tumors. My GP called me to tell me just how sorry he was, like he was saying goodbye. Freaked me out. I figured out MYSELF that it was Tuberous Sclerosis, and that I was basically going to |
| 18:02.36 | drmessano | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.14 | igcewieling | drmessano: at least the specialist said he doesn't think it issue is "worst possible scenario" |
| 18:03.34 | drmessano | I went to a neurosurgeon and we barely spoke "Its Tuberous Sclerosis isnt it?" "Oh.. Yep, you figured it out huh?" "Yep" "Well, you know there's nothing for me to do. Keep an eye on it. Peace out, playa" |
| 18:03.35 | igcewieling | which is good because that is REALLY bad. |
| 18:03.45 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 18:04.09 | Katty | i'm very fortunate to have taken after my mother. very few health problems. |
| 18:04.21 | Katty | depression runs on her side of the family. and low blood sugar. |
| 18:04.23 | jmetro | my own problem is an allergy to fresh fruit, which completely sucks. |
| 18:04.25 | drmessano | So I have basically figured out that ER physicians and GP's are idiots |
| 18:04.27 | Katty | otherwise, i'm generally healthy |
| 18:04.46 | Katty | drmessano: i think they're designed to deal with the Flu and ear infections |
| 18:05.04 | jmetro | and gunshots |
| 18:05.04 | Katty | they do wonderfully with ear infections |
| 18:05.11 | Katty | if only the pharmacy could fil lthe prescription as quickly |
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| 18:05.24 | Katty | grumbles at the pharmacy |
| 18:05.58 | jmetro | Katty: pharmacies have boatloads of that stuff sitting around waiting in tubs, the prescriptionist MIGHT be competing with the Head Dr for position of 'laziest' |
| 18:06.13 | Katty | who knows. |
| 18:06.25 | Katty | all i know is when you have an ear infection, every moment is uncomfortable. and long. |
| 18:06.32 | drmessano | Katty, great. So when people come to me and ask me about their MAC issues, I tell them "I dont know crap about OSX. Go to the Apple store" not "It's the registry. Reboot, run MSCONFIG also maybe scanreg/fix and update GRUB. PEACE OUT" |
| 18:06.50 | Katty | drmessano: sounds accurate ;) |
| 18:06.51 | drmessano | Why tell me something HORRIBLE based on limited skills? |
| 18:07.05 | Katty | hugs drmessano |
| 18:07.11 | jmetro | drmessano: "Start terminal, run rm -rfv *" |
| 18:07.31 | jmetro | you have only 20 days to live, there is no pressing "ctrl - c" |
| 18:07.36 | drmessano | "Well, the CT scan shows you have cancer and you have a giant stone pickle in your small intenstine. Or, I dunno, you could be fine and need to go POOP" |
| 18:07.39 | Katty | drmessano: if i lived closer, i'd volunteer to Suit Up and go spar with you |
| 18:07.49 | Katty | drmessano: or at least hold the punching bag in place |
| 18:08.22 | Katty | i know it would help |
| 18:08.23 | jeev | drmessypants! |
| 18:09.38 | drmessano | I told her doc I couldn't believe an ER doc would sit down with us and have "the talk" over his interpretation of a CT scan, which is about as effective as reading chicken bones |
| 18:09.47 | drmessano | SO MAD |
| 18:09.48 | drmessano | Anyway |
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| 18:10.13 | jeev | high fives drmessano |
| 18:10.34 | Katty | he needs to punch something. |
| 18:10.45 | Katty | a lot. repeatedly. |
| 18:11.07 | drmessano | Funny thing, is that we usually go to another Hospital.. but they basically start running up the bill in $1000 increments when you walk in the door.. they start at a heart attack, and work their way down. This was our first time at this hospital.. they started off with gas and worked up to cancer. Well played, ER |
| 18:11.35 | drmessano | GO HOME CT SCAN, YOURE DRUNK |
| 18:12.09 | Katty | i'm glad it's not her appendix. |
| 18:12.27 | Katty | tho, honestly, the recovery isn't too bad. |
| 18:12.34 | drmessano | I'm glad it's not her Appendix, a Kidney Stone, or Cancer. I am grateful for all of that. |
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| 18:12.41 | Katty | nods |
| 18:12.51 | jmetro | Everyting is cancer nowadays |
| 18:13.06 | jmetro | oncologists make bank |
| 18:13.09 | drmessano | I just hate that you can't trust a mechanic or a doctor at all anymore. |
| 18:13.20 | Katty | i agree. |
| 18:13.36 | Katty | i should become a doctor. and a mechanic. |
| 18:13.39 | Katty | take matters into my own hands. |
| 18:13.43 | jmetro | drmessano: http://i.imgur.com/T9Glb.jpg |
| 18:13.47 | Katty | and by matters i meant plugs and wires. |
| 18:14.19 | drmessano | jmetro, I was shocked he didn't refer us to an oncologist, but I think that's part of the troll. If he refers her to a GYN and plays it up as big shit, and he's wrong, he can write it off as "we were being cautious". If he sent us to an oncologist, it would have been borderline malpractice |
| 18:15.31 | jmetro | malpractice suits are so low, i know a brain surgeon that gets sued all the time but is expanding his office and paying double his office rent because he likes the parking |
| 18:16.11 | jmetro | brain + spine + pain clinic |
| 18:17.46 | jmetro | i have a lot more respect for the staff of the clinics than i will ever have for a "Dr. _x." |
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| 18:38.46 | drmessano | jmetro, your doctor dialplan is wrong |
| 18:38.58 | hpekdemir | hi. my snom does not record an entry in call list if pickup was done. |
| 18:39.13 | drmessano | You're assuming the doctor even exists.. I would go with _. |
| 18:39.17 | hpekdemir | is this an asterisk issue or snom issue? I can't find any options for this in the snoms web interface menu |
| 18:39.37 | Penguin | Not _! ? |
| 18:40.09 | hpekdemir | say: call is on ext 100. ext 200 picks up call on ext 100. phone on ext 100 doesn't record any entry in call list (e.g. missed calls) |
| 18:40.15 | igcewieling | hpekdemir: could be either, but how would the phone know it was picked up elsewhere and the caller didn't simply hangup. |
| 18:40.20 | drmessano | Penguin, that would match every doctor, and they don't share |
| 18:40.37 | hpekdemir | igcewieling: I don't know. that's why I'am asking if this could be asterisk's fault. |
| 18:40.44 | Penguin | I see. Well, I don't really like any doctors very much. |
| 18:40.48 | hpekdemir | since this is a good question :) |
| 18:41.05 | igcewieling | hpekdemir: I've never seen it work. |
| 18:41.15 | hpekdemir | so is there a workaroung for this? |
| 18:41.19 | Penguin | It works with SCCP, but not with SIP. |
| 18:41.43 | igcewieling | hpekdemir: Disable the missed calls log. Other than that I don't know of a way. Maybe someone else does. |
| 18:42.01 | hpekdemir | why shouldn't the phone know whether it was a hangup or pickup? are the status infos the same in both cases? |
| 18:42.28 | hpekdemir | igcewieling: the phone should record missed calls. but it also should record it on a pickup case. I want both |
| 18:42.30 | Penguin | Oh, wait... your complaint is that the call log does NOT show a missed call when another phone picked up the call? |
| 18:42.35 | hpekdemir | YES! |
| 18:42.44 | hpekdemir | I *want* missed calls. |
| 18:42.50 | hpekdemir | but in both cases. not only hangup case. |
| 18:42.51 | igcewieling | hpekdemir: Oh! |
| 18:43.01 | Penguin | That's unusual. Most of the time, when you have a ring group, all other phones show the missed call. |
| 18:43.15 | igcewieling | ^^^ what he said |
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| 18:43.33 | hpekdemir | ok this is a snom related issue |
| 18:44.26 | hpekdemir | the thing is: if a call comes in and is ringing on a phone and after 5 seconds all phones ring, only then, I get a missed call on every phone (that's the global missed call record option of snom) |
| 18:44.46 | hpekdemir | but this is not the case if the call is picked up before all phones start to ring. |
| 18:45.24 | hpekdemir | so whenever a phone call is picked up. the called one doesn't know that he was called. |
| 18:45.35 | hpekdemir | there is no entry on his phone. |
| 18:45.53 | Penguin | Does your ring group have a dialing delay before a call rings all the phones? |
| 18:46.08 | hpekdemir | yes, I have 5 seconds |
| 18:46.22 | Penguin | That's why the other phones don't show a missed call. They didn't miss a call! |
| 18:47.02 | Penguin | The call actually has to be sent to a device before it can be answered or missed. |
| 18:47.12 | hpekdemir | oh |
| 18:47.47 | hpekdemir | but what about the phone that was actuall ringing in the first place |
| 18:47.53 | hpekdemir | before a pickup was done |
| 18:47.58 | hpekdemir | actually |
| 18:48.29 | Penguin | If the ring group calls phone 1, then stops, then waits 5 seconds, then calls phones 1,2,3,4,5 ... |
| 18:48.50 | Penguin | During the 5 second wait period, phone 1 will display a missed call. |
| 18:48.59 | hpekdemir | aah |
| 18:49.02 | hpekdemir | now I understand. |
| 18:49.07 | Penguin | Because the entire call completed. |
| 18:49.13 | hpekdemir | I see |
| 18:49.20 | hpekdemir | I'll try to fix that. |
| 18:49.22 | hpekdemir | thank you. |
| 18:49.43 | Penguin | Build your ring group with the local channel and two dialplan sections. |
| 18:49.43 | j4jackj | hi pabelanger |
| 18:49.53 | hpekdemir | ok |
| 18:50.01 | Penguin | Not by Dial, then wait, then Dial more phones. |
| 18:50.22 | hpekdemir | yeah I've already seperated my dialplan into sections. |
| 18:50.26 | hpekdemir | I can make use of it now. |
| 18:50.33 | hpekdemir | good hint. thanks |
| 18:50.51 | Penguin | This will allow phone 1 to ring for a continuous amount of time while the other phones are in the pre-ring waiting period. |
| 18:51.06 | Penguin | and still be ringing once the others start ringing. |
| 18:51.12 | hpekdemir | ah one question though |
| 18:51.15 | hpekdemir | the delay |
| 18:51.21 | Penguin | So that way phone 1 does not get two different calls. |
| 18:51.32 | hpekdemir | or "stop". is that the time I give in the Dial statement? |
| 18:52.14 | Penguin | I would do something like Dial(Local/something@context,36) |
| 18:52.35 | Penguin | And then you have 36 seconds before the original dialing stops. |
| 18:52.52 | Penguin | actually, wait... |
| 18:53.08 | Penguin | Dial(SIP/phone1&Local/something@context,36) |
| 18:53.36 | hpekdemir | I have: exten => _[1-2][0-9],n,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},14,t) |
| 18:53.37 | Penguin | Then extension 'something' will start out with a Wait(10) or something |
| 18:53.44 | hpekdemir | exten => _[1-2][0-9],n,GotoIf($["${DIALSTATUS}" = "NOANSWER"]?o-${DIALSTATUS},1:switch,2) |
| 18:53.49 | hpekdemir | so it switches |
| 18:53.55 | hpekdemir | after 14 seconds. |
| 18:54.16 | hpekdemir | switch 2 is: exten => switch,1,Dial(${ALL_EXT},14,t) |
| 18:54.47 | j4jackj | Ha's someone ever used your Asterisk for phreaking? |
| 18:54.51 | j4jackj | *Has |
| 18:55.06 | hpekdemir | j4jackj: me? |
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| 18:55.34 | nam3l3zz | hello pipl |
| 18:55.35 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 18:55.50 | j4jackj | Anyone |
| 18:56.24 | hpekdemir | Penguin: that was switch 1. exten => o-NOANSWER,1,Goto(switch,1) |
| 18:56.33 | Penguin | I was thinking something like this: http://pastebin.com/a4vmruFd |
| 18:56.42 | nam3l3zz | quick one, how to start asterisk, to see timestamp of dial plan executed lines being shown, tried -T , shows time for few things, but not dial plan executed lines |
| 18:57.07 | j4jackj | I installed an anti-phreaking script in my asterisk and have several of these lines now: [Aug 29 08:29:36] SECURITY[] Unknown Call from to 011972595297009 IPdetails sip:123456@192.3.6.142:5080 |
| 18:57.53 | Penguin | Does that dial plan bit make sense? |
| 18:57.59 | hpekdemir | Penguin: ok almost same. difference is I use a Dial to ${ALL_EXT} |
| 18:58.03 | hpekdemir | but I have no wait. |
| 18:58.08 | hpekdemir | can you explain this wait again please. |
| 18:58.18 | hpekdemir | if it waits, the group is in pre-ringing state? |
| 18:58.27 | igcewieling | nam3l3zz: see /etc/asterisk/conf |
| 18:58.34 | igcewieling | ..er. /etc/asterisk.conf |
| 18:58.40 | igcewieling | bah! you know what I mean |
| 18:58.44 | hpekdemir | and what happens in this wait phase? |
| 18:58.56 | Penguin | The way I wrote this, phone1 will ring for the entire 36 second period. phones 2,3,4 will wait for 12 seconds before they begin ringing, and then ring for the remaining 24 seconds. |
| 18:59.41 | hpekdemir | hmm |
| 18:59.53 | hpekdemir | interesting. |
| 19:00.10 | hpekdemir | so you make two things on one channel |
| 19:00.37 | hpekdemir | and what is my benefit with this instead of "dial 1 phone for 36 seconds, then dial all others"? |
| 19:00.45 | nam3l3zz | igcewieling: i do, your advice was quiet helpfull, thanx. let me be a bit anoying, quick one, have a degree in i.t. ? |
| 19:00.48 | Penguin | The Dial() will be sending the call to phone1 as well as to the others in the group, but the others will be delayed 12 seconds. |
| 19:00.53 | nam3l3zz | igcewieling: *you |
| 19:01.46 | igcewieling | nam3l3zz: Why do you want to know? |
| 19:01.53 | Penguin | You won't be sending two different calls to phone1. |
| 19:02.16 | nam3l3zz | igcewieling: just qurious, wether it is just asterisk u know bits about ? |
| 19:02.24 | hpekdemir | Penguin: and you think this will solve my pickup problem? with the call list entry on pickup. |
| 19:02.33 | igcewieling | I've been in telecommunications since 1996 |
| 19:02.41 | igcewieling | Using Asterisk since 2001 |
| 19:03.14 | nam3l3zz | good, do you have an Asterik logo tatoo on your body ? |
| 19:06.38 | j4jackj | Fail2Ban is a good software name but it is actually counter to what it does. |
| 19:06.57 | j4jackj | It should have been Fail&BBand |
| 19:07.20 | *** join/#asterisk HasanAtizaz (~hasan@119.155.5.207) |
| 19:07.45 | Katty | looks in |
| 19:07.50 | Katty | is everyone getting along? |
| 19:07.53 | Katty | playing nice? |
| 19:07.55 | Katty | yes? |
| 19:07.56 | HasanAtizaz | hello, i am looking forward to configure sip on my asterisk. since i am doing it for the first time, please refer me the easiest tutorial or step by step guide. |
| 19:07.56 | Katty | good. |
| 19:08.00 | Katty | goes back to lurking |
| 19:08.14 | Katty | HasanAtizaz: google.com |
| 19:08.21 | Katty | HasanAtizaz: enjoy. |
| 19:08.53 | jmetro | or the book. |
| 19:08.57 | jmetro | the asterisk book. |
| 19:09.04 | nam3l3zz | she's a goddess... |
| 19:09.04 | hpekdemir | Penguin, igcewieling: so far all seems good. but now I need to know how to give the called phone and NOANSWER info when the call is picked up by another phone |
| 19:09.06 | Katty | yes. that's also an excellent source |
| 19:09.11 | Katty | infobot: thebook |
| 19:09.11 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook |
| 19:09.13 | igcewieling | HasanAtizaz: there is no tutorial. Read the Asterisk Book, all the UPGRADE*.txt files, any interesting applications from "core show applications" and "core show functions". |
| 19:09.15 | j4jackj | ~book for HasanAtizaz |
| 19:09.15 | infobot | ACTION smacks for HasanAtizaz upside the head with a book |
| 19:09.19 | hpekdemir | so that first phone can have a "missed call entry" |
| 19:09.19 | Katty | i still call infobot jbot :/ |
| 19:09.35 | j4jackj | heh |
| 19:09.44 | Katty | idly wonders how many years jbot has been infobot now |
| 19:10.10 | igcewieling | hpekdemir: what you are trying to do is the exact opposite of what every single one of our customers want so I have no experience with what you are trying to do. |
| 19:10.45 | Katty | you know. i haven't heard from leif in awhile |
| 19:10.45 | nam3l3zz | Katty: very fundamential questions bother you, you are a real guru |
| 19:11.24 | Katty | sruffell: where is leif? |
| 19:11.32 | hpekdemir | igcewieling: your customer wants no missed call entry in his call list if his call gets picked up by another person? |
| 19:11.32 | Katty | sruffell: tell me he hasn't dropped off the face of the planet |
| 19:11.41 | nam3l3zz | Katty: should we create a stub on wikipedia jbot or infobot ? |
| 19:11.42 | igcewieling | hpekdemir: correct. |
| 19:11.52 | hpekdemir | hmm. my boss wants exactly this feature :/ |
| 19:11.54 | igcewieling | Since the call was answered elsewhere it isn't a missed call which needs a callback. |
| 19:12.11 | Katty | nam3l3zz: i'm not sure i follow. |
| 19:12.20 | hpekdemir | igcewieling: but how do the person who was called that he "missed" the call? |
| 19:12.25 | hpekdemir | I don't understand this. |
| 19:12.25 | HasanAtizaz | thanks guys. |
| 19:12.27 | hpekdemir | but ok. |
| 19:12.32 | sruffell | Katty: I haven't seen him for awhile, but I saw a tweet from him that he's going to be at Astricon this year…. |
| 19:12.33 | nam3l3zz | Katty: females in i.t. ;) |
| 19:12.36 | hpekdemir | s/do/does |
| 19:12.43 | sruffell | so I don't think he's completely off the face of the planet. |
| 19:12.51 | Katty | goes to check fb |
| 19:13.03 | jmetro | i saw him a couple days ago |
| 19:13.13 | Katty | nope, he's not dead. |
| 19:13.19 | Katty | crisis averted. |
| 19:13.26 | Katty | nam3l3zz: there are a few of us. |
| 19:13.44 | nam3l3zz | Katty: do you wear nice big thick glasses ? :) |
| 19:13.59 | Katty | nam3l3zz: no, but i do wear contacts. my vision is awful |
| 19:14.32 | nam3l3zz | Katty: do u manage coders , or mostly you do stuff yourself ? |
| 19:14.46 | Katty | i didn't dress for an interview. |
| 19:15.14 | jmetro | i think what hes asking is if you dress like a secretary |
| 19:15.15 | nam3l3zz | very funny, great sence of humor ;) |
| 19:15.40 | Katty | jmetro: basically, yes. |
| 19:15.47 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 19:15.48 | Katty | jmetro: think he'll take a hint? |
| 19:15.55 | Katty | jmetro: let's find out! |
| 19:16.05 | jmetro | Katty: no i dont :< |
| 19:16.10 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 19:16.53 | nam3l3zz | ambitions dominating over everything - asterisk tatoo thing ;) |
| 19:17.13 | jmetro | huh |
| 19:17.28 | igcewieling | jmetro: another one for /ignore |
| 19:17.46 | nam3l3zz | Katty: i hope you are a happy person, with some life, not just "brothers & sisters" in here ;) |
| 19:18.37 | nam3l3zz | igcewieling: thanx, your "support" will be evaluated by your associates :)) |
| 19:19.16 | jmetro | igcewieling: im guessing middle east but im not sure |
| 19:19.23 | nam3l3zz | could be |
| 19:19.40 | jmetro | thailand |
| 19:19.48 | nam3l3zz | pure europe |
| 19:20.07 | igcewieling | eircom.net is ireleand |
| 19:20.12 | Katty | nam3l3zz: you might want to put yourself down into first gear. or even neutral. |
| 19:20.31 | igcewieling | Emerald Isle and all that stuff |
| 19:21.05 | nam3l3zz | philosophy has never harmed anyone , thats how actually the open source thing started ;) |
| 19:21.10 | nam3l3zz | *katty |
| 19:21.24 | nam3l3zz | igcewieling: :)) |
| 19:21.27 | Katty | well you do that. |
| 19:21.33 | Katty | quietly. without involving me. |
| 19:21.55 | nam3l3zz | you really feel yourself like a queen a bit ? |
| 19:21.57 | hpekdemir | then let me ask this way: is there a way to indicate a NOANSWER status? |
| 19:22.09 | hpekdemir | can I use something like "Set(${DIALSTATUS} = NOANSWER)"? |
| 19:22.30 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: First, that is not how you set variables.. |
| 19:22.33 | Katty | nam3l3zz: consider me the matriarch here. |
| 19:22.45 | nam3l3zz | hpekdemir: unfortunately, debates are preffered by some "gurus" over actual help ;) |
| 19:22.45 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: Seconds, the one you are mistakenly referencing there is READ-ONLY |
| 19:22.53 | hpekdemir | [TK]D-Fender: I know. it was just a quick showing of what I mean. |
| 19:23.06 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: And setting is (even if you could) means practically nothing... |
| 19:23.16 | Katty | anyway. as brain used to say. NEXT! |
| 19:23.20 | Katty | brian. |
| 19:23.21 | Penguin | It would have been quicker to not include the errors. |
| 19:23.22 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 19:23.24 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: Also that white-space in there is bad |
| 19:23.42 | jmetro | [TK]D-Fender: it was just an example , like pseudocode. |
| 19:23.49 | hpekdemir | [TK]D-Fender: pseudocode. |
| 19:23.53 | jmetro | I sometimes make [TK]D-Fender blow up when i do pseudocode. |
| 19:24.03 | hpekdemir | he seems to be THE "nerd". |
| 19:24.14 | hpekdemir | I love this. but makes chatting more difficult and stressful. |
| 19:24.15 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: And that "pseudocode" .... isn't an "indication" of anything |
| 19:24.20 | jmetro | hpekdemir: hes an [TK]O-Fender |
| 19:24.30 | nam3l3zz | lads, can't ask Katty directly - not polite, how old is the queen approx ? :) |
| 19:24.42 | Katty | frowns |
| 19:24.44 | jmetro | nam3l3zz: 19/f/ireland |
| 19:24.46 | Katty | good luck getting them to talk. |
| 19:24.48 | Penguin | stabs |
| 19:25.12 | igcewieling | Katty: don't take it personally just put him on /ignore and don't worry about it. |
| 19:25.20 | Katty | pats igcewieling |
| 19:25.28 | Katty | igcewieling: oh i'll be fine, don't you worry about me |
| 19:25.36 | hpekdemir | [TK]D-Fender: since you know what you are talking about. let me ask this way: how can I make the phone get a NOANSWER status? |
| 19:25.40 | hpekdemir | manually. |
| 19:25.42 | nam3l3zz | asking about age become a major crime on this planet? |
| 19:25.53 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: you don't give a phone a status |
| 19:25.58 | nam3l3zz | seriously, there is something really funny happening :) |
| 19:26.11 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: Your entire concept does not hpekdemir just out of nowhere. |
| 19:26.24 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: Please provide a very specific scenario you are looking to create |
| 19:26.41 | [TK]D-Fender | gah, multi-line screwup there. |
| 19:26.42 | drmessano | Katty, sounds like another guy feeling threatened you know more about tech than he does.. Easier to insinuate you're fetch the "real techs" coffee vs admitting you know more than them or even just anything |
| 19:26.51 | drmessano | fetching |
| 19:27.06 | *** join/#asterisk Rumbles (~Rumbles@31.205.54.123) |
| 19:27.08 | nam3l3zz | drmessano: no nothing about asterisk, don't feel myself even a noob ;) |
| 19:27.27 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, it's "know" |
| 19:27.30 | Katty | drmessano: but i would fetch coffee. |
| 19:27.32 | jmetro | Katty never has to ask questions, i have no idea what kind of system or setup she has. I am just now realizing this. |
| 19:27.36 | Katty | drmessano: if i was going anyway... |
| 19:27.41 | hpekdemir | [TK]D-Fender: ok actual problem is: when a pickup takes place, the called phone does not have an missed calls entry in call list. and this is perfectly logical, since no call was ever missed. just picked up. so how can I let the called phone "know" that he "missed" the call before pickup takes place? |
| 19:27.51 | hpekdemir | so the "missed calls" entry is there. |
| 19:27.54 | Katty | jmetro: cloud hosting. |
| 19:27.56 | Katty | jmetro: vmware. |
| 19:27.58 | eZz | hello again, remember today I asked about to asterisk hanging up (possible system clock problem) ? |
| 19:28.05 | jmetro | Katty: Oh, just like me :> |
| 19:28.13 | nam3l3zz | drmessano: don't u look tiny to yourself, stressing on typos ? :) |
| 19:28.14 | Katty | jmetro: and i generally have enough friends in here that i ask someone directly, rather than in channel |
| 19:28.15 | drmessano | jmetro, it's because she's so freaking awesome that she comes here to spread her awesome. She's here for the LULZ. |
| 19:28.37 | Katty | i'm here to exclusively annoy fender. |
| 19:28.39 | jmetro | drmessano: oh thats totally me. either that or i post my code and have random spelling mistakes |
| 19:28.41 | Katty | and make sure everyone is doing ok |
| 19:28.44 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, oh, it's my turn now? Big mistake friend. I was trolling before bridges were cool |
| 19:29.04 | jmetro | nam3l3zz: hes a mac user that actually think macs are cool, the original troll man. |
| 19:29.11 | Katty | someone has to make sure [TK]D-Fender is minding his manners. |
| 19:29.12 | nam3l3zz | drmessano: any tiny support of the queen, is a nice subject of a debate :)) |
| 19:29.20 | nam3l3zz | *supporter |
| 19:29.20 | drmessano | Yet I own not a single mac |
| 19:29.26 | hpekdemir | [TK]D-Fender: and I know. it makes no sense to make a picked up call a "missed" one, but the called person should know that he got a phone call. even if the call got someone else. |
| 19:29.30 | drmessano | Which is maybe the biggest troll of all |
| 19:29.38 | Katty | drmessano is a troll. |
| 19:29.44 | Katty | but he's a nice look troll, with a nice voice. |
| 19:29.47 | drmessano | Katty, "The Troll" |
| 19:30.01 | Katty | and he's generally sweet, when not horribly pissed off. |
| 19:30.08 | drmessano | lol |
| 19:30.09 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir[TK]D-Fender: ok actual problem is: when a pickup takes place, the called phone does not have an missed calls entry in call list. and this is perfectly logical, since no call was ever missed. just picked up. so how can I let the called phone "know" that he "missed" the call before pickup takes place? <- you can't. |
| 19:30.38 | Katty | i like how [TK]D-Fender doesn't even acknowledge that i'm here to keep him civil. |
| 19:30.59 | Katty | i hope it irritates him. |
| 19:31.02 | nam3l3zz | Katty: if i asked you about kids, would it be a question more offending then the one about age ? :) |
| 19:31.17 | Katty | sighs. |
| 19:31.23 | nam3l3zz | drmessano: "troll kings" , u like it ? :) |
| 19:31.24 | Katty | ask your questions and get this over with. |
| 19:32.20 | drmessano | Katty, [TK]D-Fender is like a caged animal who merely tolerates the cage for its ongoing failed attempt at confinement based on its eventual failure. No need to argue whether or not it has any effect in the present. Fact is that it will fail, and therefore it is useless |
| 19:32.36 | nam3l3zz | Katty: i will not, you do have some social skills, could be interesting to know you in person, supports deserve less attention... :) |
| 19:32.44 | Katty | drmessano: but with a broken clavical |
| 19:32.44 | nam3l3zz | *supporters |
| 19:32.59 | drmessano | lol |
| 19:33.27 | Katty | nam3l3zz: just to clarify. i am old. i am not pretty. |
| 19:33.37 | Katty | nam3l3zz: i am the female equivilent of a certified rat hat admin |
| 19:33.42 | Katty | red hat. |
| 19:33.50 | jmetro | Katty: but you make tasty foods. |
| 19:33.52 | hpekdemir | [TK]D-Fender: ok and what about the phone that picks up the call. there is even no entry in "accepted calls" after a pickup took place |
| 19:33.55 | hpekdemir | what about that? |
| 19:34.03 | drmessano | She's not very interesting in person. She has a dvorak keyboard fetish and enjoys popsicles made from sour chinese vegetables. |
| 19:34.04 | hpekdemir | is there a way to solve this? |
| 19:34.11 | drmessano | That's why she has IRC |
| 19:34.15 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: SIP: Answered Elsewhere <------------ |
| 19:34.19 | jmetro | oh god dvorak, i might have to quit this chat |
| 19:34.23 | Katty | borscht popcicles. there's an idea. |
| 19:34.47 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: this is automatic. It is not missed. It is not answered (on that phone). It is "not your problme" |
| 19:34.57 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: There is no option. This is what it does. |
| 19:35.06 | Katty | jmetro: guess i got one thing going for me ;) |
| 19:35.42 | nam3l3zz | btw, you guys are quiet united, like that :) |
| 19:35.57 | drmessano | Katty: What about starting up that rumor that you're really a man just looking for attention that you're not getting while dwelling in your moms basement. I rather enjoyed that one |
| 19:36.04 | Katty | it happens when you talk to the same people for 7 years. |
| 19:36.13 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, we are Asterisk Anonymous. Expect us |
| 19:36.32 | Katty | YES. |
| 19:36.35 | Katty | we should go back to that one. |
| 19:36.39 | jmetro | I'm way new though. |
| 19:36.46 | Katty | jmetro: you're so not. |
| 19:36.49 | jmetro | oh god its been like 8 months |
| 19:36.51 | nam3l3zz | you all are in states obviously ? |
| 19:37.15 | [TK]D-Fender | My current state is : decaffeinated |
| 19:37.17 | hpekdemir | [TK]D-Fender: I wonder why this is as it is. I'm sure technically it's possible to realize this. at least for someone who wants to be noticed that a call took place it would be helpful to have an entry in the call list. |
| 19:37.25 | drmessano | jmetro, I think several of us would sign off on your membership |
| 19:37.25 | hpekdemir | [TK]D-Fender: but thank you for your suggestions. |
| 19:37.37 | Katty | gets the pen |
| 19:37.39 | jmetro | drmessano: well, cool :] |
| 19:37.46 | [TK]D-Fender | hpekdemir: Not a suggesting, merely a statement of fact. |
| 19:37.53 | hpekdemir | thanks |
| 19:37.59 | Katty | nam3l3zz: no, not everyone. |
| 19:38.03 | Katty | nam3l3zz: but several are. |
| 19:38.54 | nam3l3zz | any chance to come across an asterisk expert with a PhD degree in i.t., hope am not too hypothetical, neither offending :) |
| 19:39.27 | Katty | i'm pretty sure everyone checks their degree, or lack there of, at the door. |
| 19:39.30 | jmetro | I dont know a lot of IT people who went past a bachelors mainly because the field experience is much more valuable. |
| 19:39.41 | drmessano | jmetro, pretty much if you can last 10 minutes in Asterisk Fight Club and you're not just uselessly annoying, you're OK in my book |
| 19:40.01 | nam3l3zz | drmessano: what book ? :) |
| 19:40.08 | Katty | goshdangitanyhow, drmessano you know the first rule about Asterisk Fight Club |
| 19:40.16 | Katty | don't make me come over there. |
| 19:40.21 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 19:40.41 | jmetro | I still like our idea of the "concurrent calls" karma system. |
| 19:40.52 | Katty | i must have missed that one. |
| 19:40.54 | Katty | someone fill me in |
| 19:40.54 | drmessano | I think I missed that |
| 19:41.09 | Katty | drmessano: you were probably at the dr. at the time |
| 19:41.11 | jmetro | people keep +1ing eachother and the idea was that we should track +1's |
| 19:41.16 | Katty | or busy beating one nearly senseless. |
| 19:41.31 | jmetro | and call it "concurrent calls" as a representation of how large a system someone could support based on their +1's |
| 19:41.39 | Katty | interesting. |
| 19:41.43 | Katty | infobot: +1 |
| 19:41.43 | infobot | 1 is a number, silly |
| 19:42.05 | Katty | infobot: 1 |
| 19:42.05 | infobot | 1 is a number, silly |
| 19:42.12 | Katty | infobot: 2038473 |
| 19:42.17 | jmetro | infobot: 2 |
| 19:42.17 | infobot | It's TO, not '2'. This is not l33t3 sp34k nor is this AOL. |
| 19:42.23 | jmetro | oh god , lol |
| 19:42.24 | igcewieling | infobot: 1+1 |
| 19:42.24 | infobot | i guess 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 19:42.35 | jmetro | who put these in there.. |
| 19:42.44 | Katty | because the whole is greater than the sum of its parts |
| 19:42.45 | drmessano | jmetro, that's a difficult concept. +1's are generally useless ass grabs. Most of the people I find to be pretty tolerable would vary greatly between a +1 and a -10 on any given day. |
| 19:42.51 | Katty | infobot: 3 |
| 19:42.51 | infobot | 3 is a number, silly |
| 19:42.56 | Katty | infobot: 4 |
| 19:42.56 | infobot | 4 is a number, silly |
| 19:43.01 | Katty | i think it was file. |
| 19:43.31 | jmetro | drmessano: Well, with proper tracking, people become more responsible |
| 19:43.40 | [TK]D-Fender | infobot: areyouadog ? |
| 19:43.40 | infobot | Bark! Bark! |
| 19:43.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ~botsnack |
| 19:43.48 | infobot | [TK]D-Fender: :) |
| 19:43.57 | [TK]D-Fender | infobot: Good boy ! |
| 19:43.57 | infobot | [TK]D-Fender: thanks |
| 19:44.06 | nam3l3zz | :)) |
| 19:44.16 | nam3l3zz | kids |
| 19:45.27 | nam3l3zz | Katty: neither i'm 19, would like to be 19 thou :) |
| 19:45.49 | drmessano | jmetro, if I had to create a ranking system based on my interaction with others, it would involve points based on not being /ignored on IRC or banned on other services, and whether or not i've insulted the person directly.. which is usually a positive sign.. I can't be bothered with people I generally can't stand |
| 19:46.24 | nam3l3zz | ~botsnack |
| 19:46.24 | infobot | nam3l3zz: thanks |
| 19:46.39 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 19:46.44 | igcewieling | raising too much of a fuss can get you banned anyway. |
| 19:46.52 | nam3l3zz | ~botsnack drmessano |
| 19:46.52 | infobot | aw, gee, nam3l3zz |
| 19:47.19 | drmessano | I think I just had an epiphany |
| 19:47.49 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 19:48.23 | jmetro | drmessano: personal ranking =/= concurrent calls asterisk ranking :3 |
| 19:48.29 | drmessano | The more I think about this, the harder I find it to explain the difference between people I like and people I can't stand. The only thing that stands out maybe that I go out of my way to give short, uninteresting answers to those I hate, just so they know they are boring me |
| 19:48.34 | drmessano | This is fascinating |
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| 19:49.07 | nam3l3zz | "localized analysis" :) |
| 19:49.37 | drmessano | So yes, maybe "nickname: singlewordanswer" would be my only needed criteria for negative karma |
| 19:49.43 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, yep |
| 19:50.34 | Katty | 19 is such an akward age. |
| 19:50.52 | drmessano | Thats a good way of putting it. I hated 19 |
| 19:51.02 | drmessano | 20 was so much better |
| 19:51.03 | nam3l3zz | would love now to be in 20-30 spectrum, would give plenty for the "transfer" :D |
| 19:51.17 | jmetro | i finally got together with my ladyfriend at 19, and have been doing pretty good since then. |
| 19:51.31 | Katty | ^_^ |
| 19:51.37 | nam3l3zz | (y) |
| 19:51.49 | Katty | as i recall, drmessano is now a much happier person with his ladyfriend |
| 19:52.03 | drmessano | Katty, as happy as drmessano gets |
| 19:52.12 | drmessano | The Doc is Grumpy |
| 19:52.17 | Katty | pats drmessano |
| 19:52.19 | Katty | yes dear, of course. |
| 19:52.21 | drmessano | lol |
| 19:52.55 | Katty | i will always uphold your reputation. |
| 19:53.03 | drmessano | ~drmessano |
| 19:53.03 | infobot | [drmessano] the leading cause of censorship in #asterisk, maybe a Doctor, not really a mess um a no..... The Doctor is accepting new patients, <drmessano> I am not a OB/GYN but I'll have a look anyway, and is earning his reputation daily, or wearing oompa looma underwear |
| 19:53.25 | Qwell | drmessano: not a very good one, apparently. :p |
| 19:53.36 | drmessano | lol |
| 19:53.41 | nam3l3zz | :) |
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| 19:54.04 | Katty | Qwell has a reputation too. |
| 19:54.26 | Katty | infobot: Qwell? |
| 19:54.26 | infobot | hmm... qwell is a patented liquid formula that contains three plant-based bio-active agents that work together in a perfectly balanced combination. These agents act synergistically to boost your good cholesterol and slash the bad. qwellcommunicationsinc, the holding company of telcomjoshleifvoxmartinc |
| 19:54.42 | nam3l3zz | watched a movie yesterday, key figure kept repeating word "reputation" - headhunters (2011), i'd recomend |
| 19:55.08 | Kobaz | valgrind needs to be faster |
| 19:55.10 | drmessano | I find some comfort in the fact that while I others may not like how I get things done, and I often don't like how I get things done, I get things done. As long as that remains true, people can think what they want. |
| 19:55.30 | drmessano | -I |
| 19:55.45 | nam3l3zz | good manager's message |
| 19:55.46 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 19:56.02 | nam3l3zz | drmessano: seems to hate unfinished business :) |
| 19:56.08 | drmessano | Sure, I remove splinters with chainsaws. It's GONE, ISNT IT? |
| 19:56.12 | Katty | i can't really see danny as a manager. |
| 19:56.35 | Katty | i think he'd take over the whole department and boot everyone out |
| 19:56.42 | jmetro | suddenly so sleepy, someone inject me with something before i fall asleep at work please |
| 19:56.56 | jmetro | all that damn spanakopita |
| 19:56.57 | nam3l3zz | have a pill of jenseng in d backpack |
| 19:57.09 | Katty | jmetro: have a short nap on your desk |
| 19:57.12 | drmessano | Katty, I am an awesome manager. People will remember me much in the way they remember Caesar. Awesome leader, too bad about that knife. |
| 19:57.32 | jmetro | Katty: i cant nap at work d= |
| 19:57.52 | Katty | bummer :< |
| 19:57.53 | nam3l3zz | jmetro: where r u based ? atleast d continent :) |
| 19:58.25 | Katty | 1hr to go! woo! |
| 19:58.38 | jmetro | USA, you get out early katwise? |
| 19:58.57 | drmessano | jmetro is in South America. He provides the greek finger good and Colombian bam bam for the Asterisk devs |
| 19:59.04 | drmessano | food* |
| 19:59.44 | Katty | jmetro: unfortunately no :/ |
| 19:59.49 | jmetro | I also type in any unicode text as required © |
| 19:59.53 | Katty | jmetro: but i am still excited to go home. |
| 20:00.08 | drmessano | Holy crap, it's 4pm |
| 20:00.54 | Katty | mhmm |
| 20:01.23 | nam3l3zz | 9 pm here :) |
| 20:01.34 | nam3l3zz | Katty: ur time ? |
| 20:01.55 | Katty | hammer time. |
| 20:02.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Break it down |
| 20:02.18 | jmetro | toots the tooting part. |
| 20:02.27 | drmessano | I spent the whole day updating all my MACs to from Mountain Lion to Billy Goat and adding left click buttons to my iMice |
| 20:02.30 | HasanAtizaz | how to find on which my registerar server is binded to for sip ? |
| 20:02.58 | drmessano | HasanAtizaz, huh? |
| 20:03.27 | nam3l3zz | any inspiring webcasts on asterisk fundamentals ? :) |
| 20:03.31 | drmessano | You're missing a in there |
| 20:03.38 | drmessano | ~book |
| 20:03.38 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook |
| 20:03.44 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, ^ |
| 20:03.59 | nam3l3zz | accepted |
| 20:04.51 | nam3l3zz | thanks for indirectly pointing out at knowing only about the book, and neglecting presense of other media types... |
| 20:04.52 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 20:05.34 | jmetro | the book is the best way, follow the not-quick install guide |
| 20:05.50 | Katty | i think danny just turned red |
| 20:05.57 | Katty | at the passive aggressive bits |
| 20:06.05 | Katty | drmessano: what is your current tint? |
| 20:06.17 | drmessano | Katty, day old watermelon, seedless |
| 20:06.23 | Katty | nods |
| 20:06.26 | Katty | i'd say that's accurate. |
| 20:06.44 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 20:07.16 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, if you wish for a more direct answer to your question, lacking any further helpful engagement, the answer is "nope" |
| 20:07.25 | drmessano | But I thought that a bit unhelpful |
| 20:07.29 | drmessano | My mistake |
| 20:07.33 | drmessano | So lets try this again |
| 20:07.36 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, nope |
| 20:07.56 | nam3l3zz | as far as i read somewhere , asterisk is the first pc based pbx software, would be interesting to watch a "documentary" of some sort, about the concept, not the "ways of running it..." :) |
| 20:08.11 | jmetro | i dont know if that exists. |
| 20:08.16 | jmetro | it might be on the digium website. |
| 20:08.27 | nam3l3zz | drmessano: thanx for explaining you position. |
| 20:08.33 | nam3l3zz | *your |
| 20:09.40 | kaldemar | they say michael moore is planning on doing a film on asterisk. |
| 20:10.09 | nam3l3zz | would be cool, watched few of his movies & liked :) |
| 20:10.47 | jmetro | I hate michael moore because the school i went to decided to say that all documentaries were like michael moore films |
| 20:10.49 | Katty | kaldemar: i totally just grinned. |
| 20:10.51 | nam3l3zz | fav. movie about d opensource thing is "revolution os" to me :) |
| 20:10.51 | [TK]D-Fender | "asterisk is the first pc based pbx software" <- incorrect |
| 20:11.16 | Katty | i like how fenderbender comes out of the woodwork when he has a little factoid to slash to bits. |
| 20:11.19 | nam3l3zz | [TK]D-Fender: thanx for crawling the web & providing with precise answer |
| 20:11.47 | kaldemar | in two hours of runtime they get to wgetting the source package. rest of the time michael spews insults at proprietary device manufacturers. |
| 20:12.26 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, how do you know he crawled the web? Perhaps he has prior knowledge |
| 20:12.35 | nam3l3zz | drmessano: delay |
| 20:12.36 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 20:12.58 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, you do realize that most of us have day jobs, right? |
| 20:13.02 | jmetro | i love solving other IT companies server problems by googling it and calling them and telling them to just freakin do it. |
| 20:13.39 | Qwell | kaldemar: You sure it's not Richard Stallman directing? |
| 20:13.48 | nam3l3zz | drmessano: neither i insist the fact of crawling ;) joking... hah ? ;) |
| 20:14.07 | drmessano | nam3l3zz, we don't joke in here. Asterisk is serious business. |
| 20:14.11 | nam3l3zz | Qwell: richard stallman acting as director ? |
| 20:14.54 | nam3l3zz | Qwell: plenty of interviews with him in revolutionary os, like him, great guy backing all of us - open source :) |
| 20:15.19 | drmessano | Stallman is a nut job |
| 20:15.27 | Qwell | You can be right, and an ass. |
| 20:15.30 | kaldemar | Qwell: he's one of the producer/screenwriters i hear. |
| 20:15.33 | Qwell | Hell, look at me. |
| 20:15.45 | nam3l3zz | :) |
| 20:16.18 | igcewieling | and me |
| 20:16.20 | nam3l3zz | i like him being against clouds, factual side of his vision is quiet deep, but who cares... |
| 20:16.26 | nam3l3zz | *him - stallman |
| 20:16.50 | drmessano | Stallman is such an ultra purist that Michael Jackson phoned him from his oxygen chamber and called him a wacko |
| 20:17.16 | jmetro | my favorite albumn is "Big Willie style" |
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| 20:37.34 | Penguin | Okay, so now I need something a little more obscure in the communications world... |
| 20:38.01 | Penguin | I need a VHF preamp with built-in bandpass filter. |
| 20:38.13 | igcewieling | Penguin: I recommend using the Hoot-n-Holler protocol. |
| 20:38.19 | igcewieling | Popular in the southern USA |
| 20:39.06 | jmetro | what if he aint no hollaback girl? |
| 20:39.14 | jmetro | one way audio issues? |
| 20:40.00 | igcewieling | indeed |
| 20:40.48 | Penguin | Additionally, the preamp should have SO-239 connectors rather than BNC. |
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| 20:58.53 | drmessano | Penguin, i'm almost certain that exists, minus the SO-239s |
| 20:59.51 | Penguin | I've got an old GLB Electronics +10 dB bandpass, but it seems to be broken. I'd like to replace it with something similar. |
| 21:00.29 | Penguin | Advanced Receiver Research doesn't seem to have anything with bandpass or with SO-239. |
| 21:01.51 | drmessano | ARR wouldn't, but you could glue one of them to a bandpass filter and make a short pigtail. It would look like one unit |
| 21:01.54 | drmessano | :) |
| 21:02.07 | drmessano | I love those little boxes |
| 21:02.20 | drmessano | But damn lightning does too |
| 21:02.38 | Penguin | We've got lightning arrestors. |
| 21:03.25 | drmessano | That won't help |
| 21:04.32 | Penguin | hmm |
| 21:04.47 | drmessano | The ARR boxes are super sensitive. A flash of lightning 5 miles away won't kill one, but far less than enough energy needed to blow a gas arrestor will kill an ARR |
| 21:04.51 | drmessano | Buy 2.. |
| 21:05.04 | Penguin | Well... |
| 21:05.07 | drmessano | We always keep a spare |
| 21:05.32 | Penguin | Our antenna isn't at the top of the tower, but I guarantee the tower takes direct hits from time to time. |
| 21:05.48 | Penguin | That doesn't sound too promising for the life of an ARR device. |
| 21:06.15 | drmessano | Doesn't sound too promising for the tower either |
| 21:06.36 | drmessano | Sounds lacking in the grounding department |
| 21:07.02 | Penguin | I don't really know how tv and radio people deal with towers getting hit by lightning. |
| 21:07.16 | drmessano | Well, when we do it's a bitch |
| 21:07.26 | drmessano | But you try to avoid it altogether with proper grounding |
| 21:07.42 | Penguin | I would think the tower would get hit just the same with our without a ground. |
| 21:08.04 | Penguin | Moreso when the grounding is really good. |
| 21:08.33 | WIMPy | Yes. |
| 21:08.35 | drmessano | A good ground system will bleed off potential. A lightning strike is the culmination of a buildup of potential with the flash being the endgame. Keeping static off the tower avoids strikes |
| 21:08.48 | WIMPy | So the trick is to make sure the tower has better grounding than your equipment. |
| 21:09.02 | Penguin | That actually makes sense. |
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| 21:09.30 | drmessano | Grounding is not designed to bleed off a lighting strike.. It's designed to bleed off the tower becoming a giant capactor during a thunderstorm |
| 21:09.33 | drmessano | capacitor |
| 21:10.10 | Penguin | It's not my tower, so I don't know anything about how they have it set up. I'm sure it is done correctly, considering all factors. |
| 21:10.21 | Penguin | We just happen to have some antennas mounted on it. |
| 21:10.29 | danfromuk | Hi. I'm struggling to understand how to do a GotoIf(${variable} starts with '543'). How can I do that? |
| 21:10.40 | drmessano | Hang around an AM tower during a thunderstorm and you'll hear the arcs and pops as the static jumps the insulators on its way to the ground |
| 21:10.56 | drmessano | On a grounded tower, that's an ongoing process |
| 21:11.05 | WIMPy | danfromuk: ${variable::3} |
| 21:11.22 | drmessano | Since we've grounded all of our towers (and others in town), we've not seen a direct strike in years |
| 21:11.35 | Penguin | This one is only around 450 ft, if I remember right. |
| 21:11.35 | drmessano | Prior to that, it was every couple of weeks |
| 21:11.57 | drmessano | 450ft is still a decent size |
| 21:11.58 | danfromuk | WIMPy: won't that also match strings that start with XX3? |
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| 21:12.15 | igcewieling | danfromuk: More Advanced Digit Manipulation section of http://www.asteriskdocs.org/en/3rd_Edition/asterisk-book-html/asterisk-book.html |
| 21:12.22 | Penguin | We've got a UHF antenna at around 200 ft and a VHF at around 250 ft. |
| 21:12.33 | WIMPy | danfromuk: No, it gives you the first 3 characters of content of the variable. |
| 21:12.37 | Mon|A|rch | I apologize if this is a stupid question, but I'm getting originate failures when I try to originate using a local channel instead of SIP/trunk/number |
| 21:12.38 | Mon|A|rch | http://pastebin.com/LSWCfCTj |
| 21:12.49 | Mon|A|rch | tried to compile the useful information there |
| 21:13.03 | Mon|A|rch | using the HTTP AMI interface |
| 21:13.14 | igcewieling | Mon|A|rch: the answer to most Local/ questions "add /n at the end of the channel" |
| 21:13.20 | Mon|A|rch | can paste sip.conf, http.conf or manager.conf |
| 21:13.27 | Mon|A|rch | I'd tried that actually |
| 21:13.36 | Mon|A|rch | it's not getting to the dialplan to begin with |
| 21:14.00 | igcewieling | Mon|A|rch: get it working from the CLI first |
| 21:14.05 | Mon|A|rch | alright |
| 21:14.32 | igcewieling | I doubt anyone wants to help diagnose some complicated AJAXy AMI thing |
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| 21:14.51 | Penguin | If I could just get another GLB Electronics bandpass preamp exactly like this broken one, that would make several people happy. |
| 21:15.35 | danfromuk | WIMPy: thanks. good idea. i was looking at using regex and things. this solution is much cleaner. |
| 21:15.53 | igcewieling | danfromuk: his solution is the documented solution |
| 21:16.21 | danfromuk | WIMPy: how would i do String contains? Eg. Does 12345678 contain 456? |
| 21:16.26 | drmessano | Penguin, a lot of people fail to understand the need for bonding ground systems and what you're really protecting against. The conductors we use wouldn't handle a direct strike or even slow it down.. Trick is keeping static away. Science, yeah |
| 21:16.27 | igcewieling | Looks like you need to re-read the Asterisk book. |
| 21:16.38 | danfromuk | 12345678 being the value of a variable and not actually hard coded. |
| 21:17.02 | drmessano | Penguin, those little static hats at the tops of the towers are a lifesaver as well. |
| 21:18.18 | igcewieling | danfromuk: for that you might want to use REGEX function |
| 21:18.27 | Penguin | I'll let the broadcast engineers manage that stuff. |
| 21:18.51 | WIMPy | Or if that isn;t the only thing you want to do, an AGI can become attective at that point. |
| 21:19.00 | danfromuk | igcewieling: i was worried you were going to say that. never used regex's before. |
| 21:19.13 | danfromuk | ok, thanks for your help. |
| 21:19.17 | drmessano | Penguin, it sucks not being in control of a site like that. That's why I only put repeaters up on towers I control. If the site has poor grounding, my ham repeater is the least of my worries and I am at least in a position to fix it |
| 21:20.11 | Penguin | I want to replace our antenna and hardline, but we have to get the radio station's climbers to do it, and they aren't cheap. |
| 21:20.27 | igcewieling | danfromuk: same => n,GosubIf($[${REGEX("${SM_INTL_REGEX}" ${SM_DNIS})}]?prebill) in globals we have SM_INTL_REGEX=^011|^1684|^1264|^1268|^1242|^1246|^1441|^1284|^1345|^1767|^1809|^1829|^1849|^1473|^1671|^1876|^1664|^1670|^1787|..... |
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| 21:20.51 | Penguin | We've got all kinds of people willing to climb, but we aren't allowed to do that. Even if the climber is insured, they insist we use their people. |
| 21:21.09 | drmessano | Penguin, do you work well with them? Buy the line and antenna, if you haven't already, and ask them if you can piggyback on the next climb to change bulbs or other work. |
| 21:21.39 | danfromuk | igcewieling: amazing. Thank you. |
| 21:21.41 | Penguin | That's what we did last time we needed antenna stuff done. That worked out well, actually. |
| 21:22.01 | drmessano | Penguin, my tower work isn't free either, but an extra $200 when the station is paying them to change bulbs generally goes a long way |
| 21:22.02 | Penguin | We had everything ready to go a couple weeks before the people showed up. |
| 21:22.07 | drmessano | Thats cool |
| 21:22.18 | igcewieling | danfromuk: you should have googled or checked the Asteirsk book for your first question there there is not many examples of REGEX so you can be forgiven for that pqart. |
| 21:22.37 | Penguin | So when they said "We're going up the tower," we had everything on site ready to go up. |
| 21:23.00 | drmessano | Penguin, is the station a mom/pop or a corporate entity? |
| 21:23.02 | danfromuk | The first question was poorly worded. The second question was the real question. Thanks for the help. |
| 21:23.11 | Penguin | corporate |
| 21:23.23 | drmessano | Which corporation? |
| 21:23.24 | Penguin | I need someone with a service monitor or something. We might not even need a new antenna and feedline. |
| 21:23.57 | Penguin | Let me see if I can find the name. The local station is WJBD-FM. |
| 21:24.47 | Penguin | NRG? |
| 21:24.51 | Penguin | Never heard of it. |
| 21:25.27 | Penguin | NRG LICENSE SUB, LLC |
| 21:25.40 | drmessano | Sounds like a mom and pop |
| 21:25.53 | drmessano | Probably own a few stations |
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| 21:26.42 | Penguin | The last time I asked the manager at the local station about something, he said it had to be cleared with corporate. I have no idea what that really means. |
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| 21:28.18 | Penguin | Anyway, we don't have much say in any of it. We're lucky we can put up to antennas and have our repeaters there. |
| 21:28.40 | Penguin | s/ to/ two/ |
| 21:29.50 | Penguin | Our 440 system is really good, but our 2m system sucks, hence the preamp. |
| 21:30.15 | drmessano | Penguin, yeah.. Clear Channel is very ham friendly. We have a strong emergency communications division and a lot of us are hams. There's few things easier than getting space on a Clear Channel tower for ham gear |
| 21:30.46 | Penguin | I don't think we have any Clear Channel stations around here. |
| 21:31.09 | drmessano | I was checking the map.. I don't believe so |
| 21:31.18 | drmessano | But I am not familiar with that area |
| 21:31.24 | Penguin | There's not much here. |
| 21:31.31 | Penguin | Farms, mostly. |
| 21:31.36 | Penguin | And some more farms. |
| 21:31.47 | drmessano | What is the nearest medium/large city? |
| 21:32.11 | Penguin | St. Louis, probably, which is 60 air miles. |
| 21:32.40 | Penguin | There's Clear Channel stuff over there, but it won't do us any good here. :/ |
| 21:34.23 | Penguin | There are all sorts of towers around here. We've even had the opportunity to buy several of them for $1. |
| 21:34.35 | Penguin | Problem is, we can't afford insurance to own them. |
| 21:35.05 | Penguin | And since people are no longer flocking to towers to rent space, we couldn't support it that way. |
| 21:35.39 | drmessano | Sparse population, so you couldn't even go in on one with a couple clubs I would imagine |
| 21:36.21 | Penguin | The next closest club is 45 miles from here. They have their antennas on water towers around their community. |
| 21:36.53 | Penguin | Well, there's another closer, but they aren't very big. |
| 21:36.58 | Penguin | I really don't count them. |
| 21:37.56 | drmessano | Sounds like you have a perfect storm of repeater suckiness. What about talking the rich guy in town into getting his ticket? :) |
| 21:39.03 | Penguin | The rich ones that care anything about technology are devoting their time and money to an ISP. |
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| 21:41.00 | Penguin | Our current location on that tower isn't really that much of a problem. We've just got something wrong with the 2m system that I can't figure out. It used to work really well. |
| 21:41.53 | drmessano | I love the people that say that the internet hasn't killed (or mortally wounded) the hobby. People would rather spend $500 on an iPad than contribute to a repeater project any day. There's so much equipment available now from rebanding that it's cheaper than ever to put up/upgrade/maintain a repeater.. but no interest |
| 21:42.21 | Penguin | Yep. There are very few of us that care at all. |
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| 21:42.42 | Penguin | All the ones that used to care are too old and they feel like it is someone else's turn to work on the stuff. |
| 21:43.12 | Penguin | I have no problem working on it, but I don't have the tools necessary to find our problem. |
| 21:44.33 | drmessano | RFI issue? |
| 21:45.45 | Penguin | I don't really think so. I had one of the broadcast engineers check the site with a spectrum analyzer. The noise floor was extremely high, but there wasn't anything abnormal near our frequency. |
| 21:46.28 | drmessano | What is the issue... Lack of receive sensitivity? |
| 21:46.32 | Penguin | The symptom is that the receive on the repeater really sucks. |
| 21:46.36 | drmessano | ah |
| 21:46.39 | WIMPy | Tell the critters to store their food in another antenna. |
| 21:47.03 | Penguin | I was trying to convince myself and everyone else that is is due to all the green stuff that came out this time of year. |
| 21:47.09 | drmessano | Penguin, i'm guessing someone hasn't been able to go over the reciever due to lack of a Service Monitor |
| 21:47.29 | Penguin | I even swapped out the repeater recently and it didn't change anything. |
| 21:47.36 | drmessano | ah |
| 21:47.43 | Penguin | Same model repeater, but a different unit. |
| 21:48.30 | Penguin | Could the cavities being slightly detuned cause THAT much lack of sensitivity in the RX? |
| 21:49.07 | drmessano | Pull the cavities out and check the received signal. You should be able to get a poor mans idea of the insertion loss |
| 21:50.02 | Penguin | The SWR, when checked at the TX jack of the rpt using a directional coupling SWR meter, was perfect. I kind of assumed that means the tuning was good enough. |
| 21:50.37 | jmetro | your conversation about radio scares me. |
| 21:50.44 | drmessano | Cavities are band pass and band reject. The bandpass could be correct and the band reject might be off enough that its killing your receive |
| 21:51.12 | Penguin | I don't dare turn the knobs on top, though. I have no idea what that will do without having the proper test equipment to tune them. |
| 21:51.34 | Penguin | jmetro: Why? |
| 21:51.59 | jmetro | Ive discovered the resonant frequency of a Mazda3 can be reached at 60mph with the back windows down only. |
| 21:52.11 | jmetro | almost blew an ear drum |
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| 21:53.29 | drmessano | Yeah, that's smart. Don't touch them without a spectrum analyzer and a reference source. But do try something as simple as putting a mobile with an S-Meter in place of the repeater, and either have someone generate an RF source or drop an HT down to 300mw and key up. Check the rx signal with and without the duplexer |
| 21:53.42 | Penguin | We've got four cans: two on TX and two on RX. I don't think I could possibly tune them myself. |
| 21:54.34 | drmessano | 6db to an S-Unit, so do the math. It won't be entirely scientific, but the insertion loss should be no more than what is advertised |
| 21:54.45 | Penguin | That's a pretty good idea. |
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| 21:56.49 | drmessano | Some people are handy enough with a setup like that to actually tune the duplexer (both sides). I wouldn't suggest it, but that setup is enough to check the loss. Maybe you've got a tuning issue, maybe you have a cavity with a spot that's corroded. Maybe you have a cavity with an arc spot from lightning |
| 21:57.29 | Penguin | We should have a spare set of cans. I'm thinking another test would be to put the spares on and see what changes. |
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| 21:58.08 | drmessano | Don't do that "instead of..." but certainly that's worth a try as well |
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| 21:59.19 | drmessano | You've checked the VSWR through the cavity. That's a good start. Check the other RX. Swap cavities. You have a UHF colocated, right? |
| 21:59.21 | j4jackj | jmetro: i lold |
| 21:59.38 | Penguin | Yes, the UHF is there and it's awesome. |
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| 22:00.25 | jmetro | j4jackj: no joke, its bernoullis principle. your car can probably do it too with the back windows down, due to the shape o the car |
| 22:00.26 | drmessano | Take that same mobile radio, connect it to the VHF system. Find a WEAK NOAA WX Station. Swap to the UHF antenna. The signal should get worse, not better. |
| 22:00.46 | j4jackj | jmetro: it's funn though |
| 22:00.47 | drmessano | Thats DIRECT to the antenna, mind you.. |
| 22:01.05 | jmetro | j4jackj: it was kinda funny, i did it to my lady friend as a prank. |
| 22:01.28 | jmetro | youre driving with the windows down and at a certain speed suddenly your car just goes WUB WUB WUB WUB and your ears hurt |
| 22:02.21 | Penguin | The other day I was over in Mt. Vernon, which is 20 miles from the tower, inside a building with my ht hitting the UHF repeater good enough to carry on a conversation. I couldn't even get a ker-chunk out of the VHF repeater when standing outside the same building. It was sad. |
| 22:03.35 | drmessano | Penguin, obviously that test isn't "scientific" either, but 200+ feet of coax will absorb some RF, so the VSWR test only tells me the system doesn't fail miserably. If you have an antenna or coax issue and the feedline is absorbing the reflected power, your test is going to be tainted |
| 22:03.55 | Penguin | It shouldn't take 50 watts and a 5/8 antenna to talk 20 miles. |
| 22:04.04 | drmessano | Checking a known source on both antennas, knowing the VHF should be better is a pretty good measure if there's water in the line, cracked antenna, etc |
| 22:04.14 | Penguin | Ah, water... |
| 22:04.17 | drmessano | Nope, agreed |
| 22:04.21 | Penguin | I'm glad you mentioned that. |
| 22:04.44 | Penguin | Someone told me I could drill a hole in the underside of the feedline at a low point and see if water drains out. |
| 22:04.55 | Penguin | But how do I seal it back up if I do that?? |
| 22:05.03 | drmessano | The line isn't pressurized? |
| 22:05.13 | Penguin | No. |
| 22:05.33 | drmessano | You should have a hole then.. Otherwise that line is going to fill with moisture |
| 22:05.50 | Penguin | I think I need to talk to someone about that. |
| 22:05.56 | drmessano | I always suggest a hole in the bottom of the drip look leading into the building |
| 22:06.05 | drmessano | drip LOOP |
| 22:06.20 | Penguin | How do you keep stuff out of it if there's a hole? |
| 22:06.37 | Penguin | bugs, dirt, whatever goes into feedline |
| 22:06.46 | drmessano | Make it small enough to be useful, but not large enough that the jacket seals back over it |
| 22:06.56 | drmessano | If you're really worried, put a piece of mesh over it |
| 22:08.22 | Penguin | If I grabbed a drill to go put a hole in it, what size would you recommend? |
| 22:08.33 | drmessano | What size line is it? |
| 22:08.39 | Penguin | I think it's 1 in. |
| 22:10.28 | Mon|A|rch | igcewieling, originating from the CLI helped solve all my problems, thank you |
| 22:10.42 | Mon|A|rch | mostly thank you for not /ignoring me for ridiculous questions |
| 22:11.00 | drmessano | 3/32 would be enough to pop a hole and not have the jacket seal back over the opening |
| 22:11.53 | Penguin | And it doesn't matter if bugs go inside over time? |
| 22:12.13 | jmetro | duct tape |
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| 22:12.38 | Penguin | Duck tape would reseal it. He's saying leave it open to drain moisture out. |
| 22:13.21 | drmessano | it's actual hardline, correct? |
| 22:13.25 | Penguin | yes |
| 22:13.29 | drmessano | Not some large LMR crap |
| 22:13.30 | drmessano | ok |
| 22:13.36 | Penguin | air insulated, no pressure. |
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| 22:15.27 | drmessano | Drill the hole.. check for water. If there's nothing in there, seal the line back. If there is water, leave it open.. If your connectors are venting the line, you're likely fine. If the connectors have vapor barriers, you will need to leave the line open. |
| 22:15.55 | drmessano | You'll know if they have vapor barriers if the cable is full of water |
| 22:16.45 | drmessano | Unpressurized line should have enough air gaps from the imperfections of the terminations to keep water out, at least at the bottom |
| 22:19.08 | drmessano | Gotta go.. BBL |
| 22:19.49 | Penguin | Seems like I have some work to do. |
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| 23:07.58 | TheGuy_ | I did an odd thing...I migrated a phone system and did not install postfix, and no other relay was installed, what happens to voicemails that are set to email and delete after emailed? |
| 23:08.51 | [TK]D-Fender | th* calls whatever script voicemail.conf was specified to call and does whatever it does |
| 23:08.57 | [TK]D-Fender | TheGuy_: ^ |
| 23:11.36 | TheGuy_ | so asterisk attempts to email and still deletes if not successful? |
| 23:15.34 | Merlin | define "not successful" |
| 23:15.38 | carrar | How would you know if the Email successfully reached the person? |
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| 23:15.55 | TheGuy_ | they wouldn't be complaining... |
| 23:15.58 | carrar | haha |
| 23:16.05 | carrar | Are they complaining now? |
| 23:16.06 | Merlin | haha good luck programming that |
| 23:16.22 | TheGuy_ | always |
| 23:16.27 | carrar | then it's broken! |
| 23:16.33 | carrar | pls fix |
| 23:16.57 | Mon|A|rch | lol, couldn't you just set it to email you, then you'd actually be testing it instead of guessing at it |
| 23:18.11 | [TK]D-Fender | TheGuy_: There is no check for "successful" |
| 23:18.11 | Penguin | You don't have to have postfix. You can safely install something much smaller, such as ssmtp or msmtp. |
| 23:18.12 | [TK]D-Fender | TheGuy_: * calls what it is told to, |
| 23:18.29 | [TK]D-Fender | TheGuy_: What it does is none of *'s concern |
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| 23:36.53 | ChannelZ | Something that seems really broken is NAT. I was dicking around for awhile last night and it doesn't seem to do what it should |
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| 23:52.23 | igcewieling | ChannelZ: I've noticed something similar. Have you tried nat=yes instead of what Asterisk 11 tells you to use? |
| 23:53.18 | igcewieling | ChannelZ: In the past I am SURE I remember someone from Digium saying that it is best to set nat=yes because it won't cause problems for non-natted devices. This does not seem to be the case, but I have not tracked down specifics. |
