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01:25.17phixheygang
01:25.25mitchrodriguesoi
01:25.30mitchrodriguesi hate comcast so bad
01:25.31mitchrodrigues-.-
01:25.50phixWhat is a good echo canceller ?
01:25.54phixsoftware one that is
01:26.20phixI am getting echo, turning down the volume doesn't help, I have oslesc enable I think
01:27.17phixMy card is a TDM401something
01:32.30ChannelZhave you run through the fxotune process first?
01:35.31phixWhat's that?
01:36.01ChannelZWell I assume you are talking about a TDM card with FXO ports, that you're getting echo on POTS calls
01:40.09ChannelZyes? no?
01:45.22ChannelZshrugs
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01:46.12pensmitLooks like The Definitive Guide 4th edition is incorrect
01:46.27pensmitI'm trying to install it but it wants you to download dahdi twice?
01:46.48WIMPyWho wants to download dahdi?
01:47.02WIMPy(if not you yourself manually)
01:47.47pensmithuh?
01:47.57ChannelZThere are two separate DAHDI archives
01:48.02ChannelZthe drivers, and the tools
01:48.13ChannelZPerhaps you are not seeing the differentiation
01:48.43pensmitI'm just following instructions
01:48.57pensmitThey seem to be buggy though
01:49.07WIMPyDo you have any dahdi hardware?
01:49.47pensmit$ wget \
01:49.47pensmithttp://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/dahdi-linux-complete/\
01:49.47pensmitdahdi-linux-complete-current.tar.gz
01:49.47pensmit$ tar zxvf dahdi-linux-complete.tar.gz
01:49.52pensmitsays to do that
01:49.54pensmitthen
01:50.22pensmit$ cd ~/src/asterisk-complete/
01:50.22pensmit$ mkdir dahdi
01:50.22pensmit$ cd dahdi/
01:50.22pensmit$ svn co http://svn.asterisk.org/svn/dahdi/linux-complete/tags/2.6.1+2.6.1
01:50.22pensmit$ cd 2.6.1+2.6.1
01:50.29pensmitthat
01:50.36WIMPyIf you don't have any telephony cards, you can skip the whole dahdi thing.
01:50.41WIMPy~pb
01:50.41infobotA "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
01:50.42pensmitthen go to tools
01:50.52pensmitconfigure make etc
01:51.12pensmitmeetme requires dahdi
01:51.24pensmitfrom what I've read
01:51.55WIMPyCorrect, but we have ConfBridge now.
01:52.20pensmitconfigure: *** Building this package requires DAHDI support. ***
01:52.20pensmitconfigure: *** Please install the dahdi-linux package. ***
01:52.34pensmitIsn't that what I'm installing
01:52.35pensmitlol
01:53.23pensmitconfbridge doesn't require dahdi at all?
01:53.31WIMPynoi
01:53.34pensmitcool
01:53.38WIMPyno
01:53.52pensmitI still would like to get this compiled to work through certain examples
01:53.59pensmitam I missing something here
01:54.53ChannelZyou don't need to svn dahdi, just download the tarball as per the first step and build it
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01:57.55pensmitI did
01:58.00pensmitthat's when I got the error
01:58.04pensmitafter the tarball
01:58.10pensmitthen the tools section make
01:58.14pensmitmaybe it just does that
01:58.18pensmitin that order
01:58.24pensmitsince there is another make after that
01:58.26ChannelZyou need to build the drivers first
01:58.36WIMPyYou can't build the tolls before the drivers.
01:58.43WIMPytools
01:58.44pensmittell that to the book
01:58.45ChannelZand install.. which throws some headers on your system so the tools can build
01:59.19pensmitok so reverse those instructions
01:59.21pensmitgo into linux
01:59.23pensmitdo a make
01:59.34WIMPyI told you that you probably want to skip the whole step. What more do you want?
01:59.44ChannelZto complain about the book
01:59.53pensmitno
01:59.57pensmitjust trying to get that working
02:00.06pensmitso i understand if i need it
02:00.06WIMPyErl, you can 'make' in the top dir, can't you?
02:00.34pensmitso here's what I'm going to try
02:00.38WIMPyYu can also go and install spandsp and hylafax to understand. What's the point if you don't need it?
02:01.12pensmitdude I'm just trying to follow the book and examples
02:01.15pensmitgimme a break man
02:02.05WIMPyYIf you just copy and paste the book, you're not going to get more than you can read from the book anyway.
02:03.11pensmitOk I'm going to do a make in the linux directory then do a make install
02:03.22ChannelZThis is one reason why I never loved the book, it actually tends to tell you too much and sometimes not enough of 'why am I doing this'
02:03.25pensmitthen go back to the tools directory do a make and make install
02:03.39pensmitthen back to linux and do a make config
02:03.41WIMPyThat's what all books do, don't they?
02:04.05WIMPyPreferrably they tell you what you already knew while leaving your questions unanswered.
02:04.58WIMPyAlthough I think that book isn't bad. Just some sections like this one are suboptimal.
02:05.03ChannelZpensmit: yes do that
02:05.19WIMPyIt should clearlty mention that installing dahdi is optional now.
02:05.51pensmitjust got one warning
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02:05.57pensmitWARNING: could not find /home/asteriskpbx/src/asterisk-complete/asterisk/dahdi-linux-complete-2.7.0+2.7.0/linux/drivers/dahdi/vpmadt032_loader/.vpmadt032_x86_64.o.cmd for /home/asteriskpbx/src/asterisk-complete/asterisk/dahdi-linux-complete-2.7.0+2.7.0/linux/drivers/dahdi/vpmadt032_loader/vpmadt032_x86_64.o
02:06.09WIMPyAnd even if you have hardware, doesn;t mean you can use dahdi.
02:07.46pensmitis confbridge a lot better than meetme?
02:08.00pensmitif you run freepbx on top of it does it require dahdi?
02:08.22ChannelZConfBridge is arguably better yes
02:08.45ChannelZdunno about FBX. Hopefully they've moved off meetme but who knows
02:08.50pensmitWould you say confbridge supports more simultaneous connections
02:08.51WIMPyAsk the guys who made FreePBX.
02:09.31ChannelZIt's newer, more modern, and doesn't depend on DAHDI.
02:09.50WIMPyAnd supports better audio quality.
02:09.54ChannelZIt can handle better than 8khz audio (which MeetMe was limited to) if you are doing wideband;  It can do silence suppression..
02:10.02WIMPyAnd the noise cancellation is really nice as well.
02:10.13pensmitnoise cancellation i may need
02:10.16ChannelZor silence detection rather, noise suppression :)
02:10.42pensmitthanks a lot guys
02:10.44ChannelZit will mute 'silent' participants so line noise doesn't simply build up between everyone
02:10.56pensmitnice
02:11.07WIMPyAnd you can build custom menus in ConfBridge.
02:11.20pensmitI think stupid freepbx still uses meetme
02:11.25ChannelZMeetMe was dependent on DAHDI for audio mixing and timing.
02:11.34ChannelZThen don't use stupid freepbx because it's stupid anyway
02:11.42pensmitwell
02:12.01pensmitboss wants it and I'm probably not good enough yet to do just asterisk
02:12.03pensmitdialplan stuff
02:12.11pensmitstupid boss
02:12.18ChannelZwell good luck then
02:12.24pensmityeah
02:12.46WIMPyYou need to move to #freepbx soon then.
02:13.13ChannelZand in which case you can pretty much throw the book out the window
02:13.25WIMPyyeah
02:13.29pensmitWell I'm going to convince him to drop it once I get better
02:13.38WIMPyAnd your brain :-)
02:14.00pensmitDo you guys do consulting?
02:14.21pensmitNo any good companies that are really good at plain asterisk?
02:14.24WIMPySometimes.
02:14.25pensmitknow
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02:15.55pensmitCan I get your contact info and rates?
02:17.15WIMPyYou should ask on the Asterisk-biz mailing list. But check who you're dealing with.
02:18.37pensmitthanks
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02:31.01pensmitWhat do you guys think of the digium phones?
02:31.19WIMPyNot bad for SIP phones.
02:31.54pensmitBare Asterisk can do multiple parking lots unlike freepbx right?
02:31.55WIMPyThe user interface is a little unusual in some aspects, however.
02:32.05WIMPyyes
02:32.31pensmitWIMPY are you a freelance consultant or do you work for someone?
02:32.34pensmitout of curiousity
02:32.50WIMPyI do whatever comes by.
02:33.15pensmitDo you think you're pretty damn good?
02:33.22pensmitNot being offensive
02:33.48pensmitHow would you rate your skills compared to the best you've seen in here?
02:33.48WIMPyThe call handling on the Digium phones is the best I've seen for SIP phoes so far. *IF* you use only one account. If you use more than one it's just as bad as most others.
02:34.12WIMPyThat depends heavily on the topic.
02:34.31pensmitmostly conferences with under 100 people in them each
02:34.34WIMPyI had to dig rather deep in to some parts while I haven't touched others at all
02:34.38WIMPy.
02:35.17WIMPyUp to 100 conference participants sounds... interesting.
02:35.24pensmitvery
02:35.29pensmitlol
02:36.39pensmitleave me a generic email or something for anonymity and I'll get back with you
02:37.17WIMPyYou can find me here.
02:37.31WIMPyBut I don't usually do Asterisk stuff commercially.
02:37.34pensmitlol...sounds good
02:37.36pensmitok
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03:46.37AliRezaTaleghanican I bridge more that two channel?
03:46.57WIMPyConfBridge
03:47.00AliRezaTaleghanisome thing like a three way conferance
03:47.50AliRezaTaleghaniis it bossible when a call is ongoing? for example to dial a code and then make a call to second one and bridge all them to each other?
03:48.50WIMPyThe easy way is to just transfer both calls to a conference room.
03:49.28WIMPyI'm not sure you can fully automate it for both calls without using AMI.
03:50.24WIMPy"Features" might make parts of it automatic.
03:52.11AliRezaTaleghaniWIMPy: :-/ thanks...
03:52.29AliRezaTaleghaniseems a complex way..
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04:22.55larrymoif a user presses 1 can I have it execute a file on the web (say a php script)
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04:31.18mitchrodriguesYou could build an agi process
04:32.02mitchrodriguesjust a quick google
04:32.04mitchrodriguesand i get this
04:32.04mitchrodrigueshttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+AGI+php
04:42.08larrymothats not what I really mean
04:43.32WIMPyYou want curl?
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04:45.18larrymono, I am new to this, I was thinking I could create a call dynamically and just have within the IVR part of the call the ability to run a execute a script if a number is pressed.
04:45.34larrymoI really haven't thought this out much, I'm going to run in to road blocks Im sure
04:46.01mitchrodrigueswe use fastagi
04:46.06mitchrodrigueswhich is a remote application
04:46.10mitchrodriguesthat integrates with our website
04:46.18WIMPyYes, that's what you can do with AGi, or just System, if you don;t want to return anything.
04:49.58larrymoI just got ubuntu, in order to do SIP calls I need to install SIP capability?
04:50.18larrymois that what DAHDI is?
04:50.47larrymonvm thats a driver for card
04:51.45larrymoUsers who want a quick start with VoIP are encouraged to start by installing a SIP proxy before installing a soft-PBX.
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05:43.51larrymoI installed asterisk, now its time to configure it.  Any official tutorials for this?
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07:37.33ChannelZHmmm.  Is there a way to get 'automon' (features.conf) to not mix the audio at the end of the call, or to do split-channel so the streams are separate?
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07:51.45phixChannelZ: is there a way to start recording current phone convo that actually works?
07:51.51phixI have never been able to get it working
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07:54.30ChannelZautomon works.  I just won't want it to mix when it's done.  Doing a custom applicationmap now, but am wonering how to pass multiple arguments to an app. Not documented, of course.
08:00.28ChannelZAh. That worked. Syntax is fuzzy
08:00.38ChannelZor the explanation is rather
08:01.50ChannelZas for recordng not working phix, what have you tried?  Normal features.conf automon/automixmon?
08:02.28ChannelZKeep in mind you need to use the w/W and/or x/X options on your Dial
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09:12.43EmleyMoorIn sip.conf, udpbindaddr, how do I specify "all IPv4 addresses and specific IPv6 addresses"?
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09:14.17EmleyMoor(can I use a comma between values, say?)
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09:19.05EmleyMoor(or do I need more than one line?)
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09:30.29EmleyMoorAh, it's "all or one" at present - oh well
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11:18.24CeBeEmleyMoor: shouldn't be too hard to specify all adresses for ip4
11:22.04EmleyMoorCeBe: But it's not possible to specify precisely what I seek at present.
11:22.29CeBeYes, I know but I wonder why you need it this way
11:23.23EmleyMoorCeBe: Part of my plan to make functions of a system "separable" in the future.
11:24.00CeBewhy not listen on all adresses?
11:24.44EmleyMoorCeBe: Partly, security. Also, if I make the function "separable", I can move its specific address with the function.
11:26.14CeBeEmleyMoor: So if you listen on all adresses you can have multiple adresses routed to the server and route them elsewhere when you separate functions
11:26.23CeBeWhats your point in security here?
11:26.57CeBeWhen you have a firewall (which you should have when worried about security) you can define allowed adresses there
11:28.48EmleyMoorThe limited nature of my current firewall (in that, if modified too much, it breaks!) is my main reason... though I plan to replace it with something better. The other point is that I intend my internal users (such as they are) to use supported addresses only.
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11:30.41larrymonow that I have asterisk installed, is their a good tutorial on what to do?
11:31.27CeBelarrymo: depends on what you want to do ;)
11:32.42CeBeEmleyMoor: Imo listening on all adresses and configure limitations in firewill is the best way to go here. And yeah, you should ge a firewall that works first ;)
11:32.49larrymomy goal at this point is to create outbound calls dynamically.  I guess good practice would be building a call and placing it in the outbound directory
11:33.29larrymoas well as testing it to see if it's installed correctly
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11:41.10yoavzHey all, I'm looking for some newbies help... I configured my voipvoip.com's sip as trunk line and it seems to work
11:41.20yoavznow I've tried to configure extension (6000)
11:41.28yoavzand when connecting I'm getting: [Aug  4 14:40:14] NOTICE[18173]: chan_sip.c:25575 handle_request_register: Registration from '<sip:6000@server.hostname.com>' failed for '1.2.3.4:5060' - No matching peer found
11:41.31yoavzWhat should I try?
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12:17.42larrymothis is in the example of sending an outbound call:  Channel: SIP/trunkname/18882223333
12:17.46larrymowhat is trunkname?
12:17.58larrymohow do I find this out
12:19.08[TK]D-Fenderlarrymo: that is the format you'd pass to Dial()
12:19.42larrymoFender, I understand but I would have to name something "trunkname" for that to work correct?
12:19.45[TK]D-Fenderlarrymo: and trunkname there is a named entry in sip.conf
12:19.51larrymoahh
12:19.57[TK]D-Fender~book
12:19.57infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
12:19.59[TK]D-Fender^^^
12:20.11[TK]D-Fender[trunkname]
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13:12.42larrymoIn order to make outbound calls I need a SIP provider?
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13:16.52[TK]D-Fenderlarrymo: you need SOMETHING to dial out.  A voip provider is an option, hardware lines, cellular interfaces are others
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13:26.05larrymoI'm just making calls within the United States and do not plan on accepting incoming calls.  Is there a suggested free provider I go with or no such thing?
13:29.32larrymoI'm willing to pay per outbound call.  I really just want an outbound directory that allows me to create calls on the fly and use text to speech with some basic IVR functions.
13:29.55[TK]D-Fendernothing free left that I'm aware of.  Going out is what costs
13:30.13[TK]D-Fender"directory"?
13:30.40larrymovar/spool/asterisk/outgoing/   Hosting this thing myself might be the wrong way to go.
13:31.22[TK]D-Fendertrat is for automating call-outs
13:31.28[TK]D-Fenderthat*
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13:31.49[TK]D-Fenderthere are other API's as well
13:32.14[TK]D-Fenderlike AMI Originate, an theCLI Originate commands.
13:32.29[TK]D-Fenderthey are all effectively the same in the end
13:37.05larrymoI am building a system for a restaurant where they accept orders online.  The order is taken on the website then sent via text to speech to the restaurant by phone.
13:38.29[TK]D-Fenderhow you get the call to them is between you and them
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13:40.48larrymooptimal solution for me would be not to handle the outbound calling at all and only dynamically generate the call file
13:41.29[TK]D-Fenderwell that has to get to them somehow....
13:43.06larrymois there anyone who has a server where I can be billed per outbound call but have the ability to send in the call file?
13:43.48larrymo(with text to speech module)
13:46.28[TK]D-Fenderthat IS a service provider <--
13:46.32[TK]D-Fender~itsp
13:46.32infobot[~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet Telephony Service Provider (or VoIP telephone company). They allow you to either SEND calls to the PSTN (this is called termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs.
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13:47.40larrymo~itsplist-us
13:47.40infobotHere are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones: http://www.teliax.com , http://www.voicepulse.com/connect/ , http://www.broadvoice.com , http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net , http://voip.ms and http://flowroute.com
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13:56.25pabelangerlarrymo: not if you setup your own PSTN gateway
13:58.41larrymok
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14:04.30larrymowhat I need from an ITSP is an API that allows me to do outbound calls correct?
14:10.17larrymoNope, it seems they just give me the SIP account
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14:19.04Zopieuxhi
14:19.34ZopieuxI have configured a SIP account and a context, say "incoming", for incoming calls on this account
14:19.48ZopieuxI would like to question Asterisk, from command line, whetever this channel is busy or not
14:21.28Zopieuxis it possible?
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14:25.06Zopieuxseems I can parse sip show channelstats
14:25.13Zopieuxbut it seems a bit fuzy!
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14:27.28WIMPysip show inuse
14:35.01larrymoI put a .call file in the outgoing directory but its just sitting there.  How do I check it's status or errors, etc
14:35.54WIMPyHow did you put it there?
14:36.39[TK]D-Fendercall files have to be mv'd from the same filesystem due to locking
14:36.58[TK]D-Fenderdo not attempt to create or use copy to get it there
14:37.28larrymoI actually used gedit and just saved it there.  Thanks for the heads up
14:38.11WIMPyYou have a ggod chace that Asterisk tried to read it while it was stil being written.
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14:46.01larrymoIf I just want to make outbound calls do I need to setup extensions?
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17:28.10larrymoI setup a channel called "mychannel"  is this considered a trunk?
17:28.25larrymoinstructions are telling me to put this in the call file:  Channel: SIP/trunkname/18882223333
17:32.27ChannelZyes although I really hate that term
17:33.13WIMPyJust because it's wrong?
17:33.19ChannelZA bit.
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17:51.07larrymowow I got a call out
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18:03.52danfromukHi. How can I diagnose this issue with odbc voicemail? http://pastebin.com/sJbvLRka
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18:42.32danfromukHi. How can I diagnose this issue with odbc voicemail? http://pastebin.com/sJbvLRka It was working in 1.8, but since upgrading to 11, its stopped working
18:45.24[TK]D-Fenderdanfromuk: you sem to have multiple VM backend's running at the same time.  last I checked this is not allowed
18:45.38[TK]D-Fenderdanfromuk: you have fil, sql, and odbc in there
18:46.27danfromuk[TK]D-Fender: I'll check but i've only configured odbc
18:47.01[TK]D-FenderNOLOAD the others
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18:49.13danfromukI'm looking but i can't see any other vm backends being loaded.
18:49.29danfromukI'm looking through the modules folder
18:51.49danfromukwhere can you see that multiple VMs are being loaded?
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19:03.54[TK]D-Fenderdanfromuk: its lookin for raw files...
19:04.59danfromuki've only ever seen it doing that. I thought it copies data into raw files for record and playback.
19:06.02danfromukWhen it used to work in 1.8, it used to copy the data into raw files even though the data was actually stored in mysql
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19:30.22danfromukI've removed all the modules, and checked make menuselect to ensure i'm only using odbc storage.
19:30.31danfromukStill got the same problem.
19:32.08danfromukhttp://pastebin.com/bePHReTG
19:38.23danfromukCould this be a bug because the same config worked fine in 1.8
19:38.44danfromukand i've checked the sample files and voicemail.conf doesnt seem to have changed much.
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19:41.53danfromukI know the odbc connection is working because the dialplan is pulled from the same database
19:43.38danfromukand voicemailmain is able to access the database
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19:50.28larrymocan I specify within a .call file to use text to speech? Or is this AGI material?
19:52.10larrymoahh maybe if I install festival
19:57.34[TK]D-Fenderlarrymo: callfile points to dialplan.  you need to learn extensions.conf
19:57.55[TK]D-Fenderthat is where all call processing happens
19:58.15WIMPyCall files don't have to go to dialplan.
19:58.33[TK]D-Fenderor a direct single app
19:59.15[TK]D-Fenderwhich could be an agi... but then again that typically calls dislplan apps as well
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20:06.24danfromuk[TK]D-Fender: found the issue. there was a new column added called msg_id. I expected the cli to warn me about the missing column.
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23:16.44Ownerhi, i can see in the log file that im recieving a call, but it says it goes to ss-noservice
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23:32.43[TK]D-Fenderthat is a freepbx issue
23:33.43[TK]D-Fenderif its from an extension, then it's a lack of an outbound route.  if from a trunk, it's a lack of an inbound route to match
23:33.57[TK]D-Fender~freepbx
23:33.57infobot[~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there
23:36.40WIMPy\o/
23:36.55WIMPygot a call delivered in under one second.
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23:50.08Owner[TK]D-Fender, how do i make a route match exactly
23:56.41[TK]D-Fenderyou look at what the call is targeting... and you make a route to match

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