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| 01:23.17 | danfromuk | Got an unusual issue. When I submit a 'dialplan reload' from the cli, I get no errors or warnings. But when I issue the same command from the AMI, i get loads of warnings about contexts already been included. |
| 01:23.21 | danfromuk | eg... Context 'standard_service' already included in 'tbirch_phones' context on include at line 538 of /etc/asterisk/extens_peers.conf |
| 01:23.38 | danfromuk | I dont get that warning when using the CLI. |
| 01:24.11 | WIMPy | Have you compared results? |
| 01:26.36 | danfromuk | compared results? Theres nothing to compare. I get no warnings when issueing 'dialplan reload' from the CLI. And get loads of warnings (all identical but mentioning different contexts) when issueing a 'dialplan reload' from the AMI. |
| 01:27.03 | danfromuk | I cant seem to find any duplicates so i think the warnings generated by the AMI are incorrect. |
| 01:27.14 | WIMPy | 'dialplan show' anythin doubled? |
| 01:27.37 | [TK]D-Fender | danfromuk: Show us |
| 01:27.47 | WIMPy | Might be interesting to see the result if you remove something. |
| 01:28.30 | WIMPy | Sounds like it doesn't start with an empty dialplan to me. |
| 01:28.43 | danfromuk | Actually... I've misdiagnosed it. |
| 01:28.56 | danfromuk | If verbose is set to 2 or below, i get loads of warnings. |
| 01:29.10 | danfromuk | If verbose is set to 3 or more, it appears to reload properly. |
| 01:29.33 | WIMPy | Which way round? |
| 01:30.02 | danfromuk | The way I just stated. verbose <=2, loads of warnings. |
| 01:30.31 | danfromuk | verbose >= 3, loads of 'added extension' messages but no warnings. |
| 01:30.43 | WIMPy | debug? |
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| 01:36.18 | danfromuk | Ok. Honest. I have no idea whats causing this. Sometimes it throws warnings, or times its fine. |
| 01:40.29 | danfromuk | Its getting late. I'll try figuring it out tomorrow. Thanks anyway. |
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| 03:05.23 | jayk | titz |
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| 03:59.43 | Kobaz | MM |
| 04:00.36 | WIMPy | WW |
| 04:04.58 | Kobaz | QQ |
| 04:05.15 | WIMPy | ebay? |
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| 04:09.16 | Kobaz | it was more like i had tme caps lock on |
| 04:09.32 | Kobaz | which i usually disable, i wonder why it's not anymore |
| 04:09.44 | WIMPy | Gremlins |
| 04:11.09 | jayk | titz aren't generally sold on ebay |
| 04:11.28 | WIMPy | They are no longer? |
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| 04:21.12 | Kobaz | nap time |
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| 10:19.20 | deo | hi all.. im in the middle of troubleshooting my asterisk server, i had to test one extension for both inbound and outbound calls.. i noticed that when i hangup the call. i can still see on the logs that the extension is still using the dahdi channel.. i know i can soft hangup the extension but i need to know whats causing this issue.. |
| 10:20.20 | WIMPy | Extensions are the destinations defined in extensions.conf. |
| 10:20.36 | WIMPy | So what is that other end you have trouble hanging up? |
| 10:20.42 | deo | my question is how am i going to show some properties of this channel being used by the extension and see if i can found one .. |
| 10:21.57 | deo | WIMPy: the other end is a PSTN.. i tried to call the extension back and forth..and it seems okay but there are times that it will stucked and basing the logs its still using the channel dahdi 3/1 |
| 10:22.19 | deo | thats why i need to softhangup the channel.. but i dont know whats causing this issue.. |
| 10:22.38 | WIMPy | So it's the dahdi channel not detecting the far end hangup? |
| 10:22.57 | deo | yes WIMPy i believed... |
| 10:23.20 | WIMPy | You tell us what your question is. |
| 10:23.31 | WIMPy | Is that a POTS line? |
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| 10:23.45 | deo | the other end it is.. |
| 10:24.00 | deo | http://pastie.org/7961756 |
| 10:24.02 | WIMPy | On your end. |
| 10:24.11 | deo | this is the one ive talking about ^^ |
| 10:24.39 | WIMPy | Is that a POTS line? |
| 10:26.43 | deo | on the asterisk server end, the line is from our regular PSTN provider.. |
| 10:27.17 | WIMPy | What kind of dahdi interface is this? |
| 10:27.54 | deo | what do you mean what kind WIMPy ? |
| 10:28.27 | WIMPy | What kind of line are we talking about? |
| 10:29.24 | deo | ahmm not really sure what your question mean but i know its a dahdi channel being used here DAHDI/3-1 |
| 10:29.46 | WIMPy | That could be anything. |
| 10:30.08 | deo | how do i really check the line you are referring to WIMPy ? |
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| 10:30.22 | deo | can i do that on the command line on asterisk? |
| 10:30.46 | WIMPy | By looking at what you ordered or what you pay for, or by looking at the hardware you've got. |
| 10:31.43 | deo | ahhhhh okay its a TDM800P |
| 10:32.27 | WIMPy | So that is POTS. |
| 10:32.41 | WIMPy | Thought so. In that case it's perfectely normal. |
| 10:33.12 | WIMPy | Unless your line provides disconnect supervision you don't know when the far end has hung up. |
| 10:33.24 | WIMPy | Check what your telco can offer. |
| 10:33.41 | deo | ahhmm so your saying that this issue is normal when using POTS? |
| 10:33.46 | WIMPy | If they can't offer anythign you can experiment with busydetect settings. |
| 10:33.53 | WIMPy | Yes. |
| 10:34.02 | WIMPy | Analog is evil. |
| 10:34.05 | WIMPy | Get digital. |
| 10:34.30 | deo | hmmnn what actually you mean by Digital? im sorry im pretty new to this Asterisk world.. |
| 10:34.46 | deo | so i know that this POTS is analog.. |
| 10:34.46 | WIMPy | ISDN (BRI/PRI) or VOIP. |
| 10:35.41 | WIMPy | POTS *is* analog. |
| 10:35.59 | deo | hmmnnn im not really familiar with those terms.. and I know your busy so i may not dig this with you... |
| 10:36.36 | WIMPy | ~pots |
| 10:36.36 | infobot | [~pots] POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) is the term for a common analog phone line service as is used world-wide. The "phone company" is called FXO (~fxo), and the user end-point (or phone) is called FXS (~FXS). POTS supports 1 channel, and possibly call-waiting, 3-way calling, CID, as signalled to the telco. |
| 10:37.07 | deo | hmmnn that make sense.. |
| 10:37.52 | deo | by the way the sip client that im using is from the remote side... |
| 10:38.53 | deo | sip client(Xlite) is from remote user thats me.. |
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| 10:39.33 | WIMPy | Not sure what that's supposed to tell me. |
| 10:40.00 | deo | WIMPy: can you advise/suggest on how can we deal with this POTS? or are you suggesting that we should go for ISDN(BRI/PRI) |
| 10:40.09 | deo | and leave this POTS |
| 10:40.31 | WIMPy | Or VOIP |
| 10:40.35 | deo | but i think we may need this for local numbers in our region.. i dont know if im saying this right :) |
| 10:40.38 | WIMPy | Depends on your location. |
| 10:40.59 | WIMPy | But you won't have much fun with POTS. |
| 10:41.03 | deo | depends on our location? hmmmn so ISDN picks places? :) |
| 10:41.26 | deo | hmmnn but if we used ISDN, can we still call local numbers? |
| 10:41.31 | WIMPy | No, but it seems to be rare and expensive in North America. |
| 10:41.40 | deo | ohhhh |
| 10:42.03 | WIMPy | ISDN is still PSTN, just digital and with a lot more features. |
| 10:42.18 | deo | ahhh okay...now im learning with you.. |
| 10:42.38 | deo | i dont know if we have it here in our region :p |
| 10:42.53 | WIMPy | Where are you? |
| 10:42.58 | deo | Philippines |
| 10:43.37 | WIMPy | No idea :-) Check with your telco what they can offer. |
| 10:43.47 | deo | yeah :) |
| 10:44.40 | deo | if i can remember.. you said a while ago regarding busydetect settings |
| 10:44.58 | deo | is it implemented on the asterisk right? |
| 10:45.05 | WIMPy | Yes. |
| 10:45.15 | WIMPy | But it's not really reliable. |
| 10:45.23 | deo | hmmnn.. |
| 10:45.42 | deo | okay so this hangup issue is really know when using POTS... |
| 10:45.51 | WIMPy | yes |
| 10:46.01 | deo | will try to look for that ISDN.... |
| 10:46.32 | deo | but this has nothing to do with the card that im using WIMPy ? TDM800P |
| 10:46.53 | deo | so when switching to ISDN i can still used this card? |
| 10:47.10 | WIMPy | No, you need another type of card then. |
| 10:47.32 | deo | oooopss that will cost something :) |
| 10:48.00 | WIMPy | Depends on the number of channels you need. |
| 10:48.21 | WIMPy | Multiport cards cost money, single port cards cost next to nothing. |
| 10:48.23 | deo | what card to be used when using ISDN? |
| 10:48.44 | WIMPy | There are many to choose from. How many channels? |
| 10:48.59 | deo | currently were using 4 lines from our telco.. so thats 4 channels |
| 10:49.39 | WIMPy | You could do that with two el cheapo cards then. |
| 10:49.55 | deo | hmnnn |
| 10:50.09 | WIMPy | But better check what you can get first. |
| 10:50.35 | deo | okay... thank you for that advise WIMPy :) ill check what can i do .. |
| 10:50.53 | WIMPy | Maybe the Phillippines are a region where you should go for an ITSP instead of PSTN lines. |
| 10:51.13 | deo | 0_o ITSP? |
| 10:51.17 | WIMPy | ~itsp |
| 10:51.18 | infobot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet Telephony Service Provider (or VoIP telephone company). They allow you to either SEND calls to the PSTN (this is called termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs. |
| 10:51.42 | deo | ohhhhh... okay let me add that too... |
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| 10:51.47 | deo | thank you WIMPy :) |
| 10:51.57 | [sr] | hi WIMPy, always working :) |
| 10:52.04 | WIMPy | That would go without any hardware. Just IP. |
| 10:52.17 | WIMPy | Hi [sr]. No, not always. :-) |
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| 10:53.17 | WIMPy | How are your chan_dongle experiments? |
| 10:53.24 | deo | hmmn i dont know if this question would matter.. when using that ITSP or ISDN.. is the end part of the cable is still and rj11? :p |
| 10:53.45 | deo | im talking about the line for the telco :) |
| 10:53.59 | deo | i mean from the telco |
| 10:54.22 | WIMPy | No. ISDN comes on an 8p8c or 8p4c modular plug, The ITSP comes via internet. |
| 10:54.34 | [sr] | if it's IP there's nothing else than your internet |
| 10:55.07 | deo | oops so that ITSP needs a lot of bandwidth... |
| 10:55.29 | deo | hmmnn okay |
| 10:55.39 | WIMPy | Depending on codec and latency up to 100kbps/call. |
| 10:56.34 | deo | hmmnn okay noted... |
| 10:58.29 | deo | thanks WIMPy [sr] :) |
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| 11:02.01 | [sr] | deo: 50 :) |
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| 11:04.04 | WIMPy | wonders how much he should charge at that rate. |
| 11:04.46 | [sr] | WIMPy: at least an extra zero :) |
| 11:05.04 | WIMPy | What am I supposed to do with Zero? ;-) |
| 11:05.34 | [sr] | an extra zero, on the right of 50 :) |
| 11:11.45 | WIMPy | That would make a nice business. |
| 11:11.53 | WIMPy | How are your chan_dongle experiments? |
| 11:22.25 | [sr] | WIMPy: havent made any progress... have to get a dongle, only have one and it's used for internet |
| 11:22.46 | [sr] | but havent found much of examples of the integration/configuration |
| 11:22.56 | WIMPy | hasn't got round to any experiments, either. |
| 11:23.24 | WIMPy | Well, I did make a call. But that was all so far. |
| 11:23.56 | [sr] | thats far than what i did till now |
| 11:25.24 | [sr] | for what i saw, the conf is a bit easy, will be, Dial(Dongle/x1/etc etc) |
| 11:27.11 | [sr] | project seems a bit stoped... so im a bit afraid to use it on production |
| 11:27.55 | WIMPy | Yes, most 3rd party developers seem to be fed up with the changes in Asterisk :-( |
| 11:28.14 | [sr] | that :S |
| 11:28.44 | [sr] | anyway chan_dongle should do into asterisk tree, it's a great great ideia to use dongle's |
| 11:28.50 | [sr] | my opinion |
| 11:28.59 | [sr] | GSM manufactors won't like it |
| 11:29.18 | WIMPy | It certainly makes sense. Like many things did. |
| 11:31.07 | [sr] | lets see what the future brings... for me a 1x SIM IP GSM costs arround 240+VAT |
| 11:32.04 | WIMPy | I'd also like to try to do it via osmocom. |
| 11:35.25 | [sr] | hum |
| 11:35.33 | [sr] | have to studdy that |
| 11:36.31 | WIMPy | Ja, that one is a lot more complicated. But it offers a lot more features. |
| 11:38.21 | [sr] | ya, i like specially this one: Sending of SMS from external applications by writing to the SQL tables |
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| 11:46.54 | [sr] | WIMPy: be well, lunch now! |
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| 14:53.25 | DexterPark | Anybody else excited about Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition coming out soon? |
| 14:58.45 | Freeaqingme | hell yeah |
| 15:00.57 | DexterPark | I think the PDF version is already out , but I pre-ordered the Paperback already so I'm waiting for that. |
| 15:01.34 | DexterPark | You can get them both for $60 - http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920025894.do |
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| 15:10.39 | dorknet | I am interested in offering an incoming context and integration to echolink |
| 15:10.43 | dorknet | I have googled everything |
| 15:10.52 | dorknet | anyone point me in the right direction pretty pretty please? |
| 15:24.33 | WIMPy | What is echolink? |
| 15:52.13 | dorknet | it is a ham radio voip network, usually integrated into from community radio repeater systems |
| 15:52.37 | dorknet | i want to offer a context that can be connected to from several of the repeaters, and join them to a silent meet me conference |
| 15:52.50 | dorknet | echo link is really only interesting if you are a ham radio person |
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| 17:00.17 | dorknet | any idea where i can start to ask these questions? i have seen a deprecated echolink.conf for asterisk, and another article mentioning res_RTP... |
| 17:00.26 | dorknet | i would have thought it would use XMPP or Jabber or something... |
| 17:00.51 | dorknet | i have been spending every evening and weekend playing with my new asterisk server, and i just think you guys, and this project, are the best |
| 17:00.52 | dorknet | thank you |
| 17:01.11 | dorknet | i used to do a bit of phreaking as a kid, and i just can't beleive how amazing this toy is. |
| 17:01.18 | dorknet | i have wanted something like this since i was 11 |
| 17:01.37 | dorknet | I'm 30 now, and a decent coder, this application has consumed my free time |
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