IRC log for #asterisk on 20130516

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00:35.56Free99hey guys. I've been trying to figure out how to do this for the past few hours, and what I've come up with has got to be more easily done in a simple way
00:36.42Free99If you're listening for someone to dial a number for outside access (I can't use DNID), how would you strip a 1 off the entered number if it is there?
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00:37.49WIMPy${EXTEN:1}
00:37.59WIMPyOr what exactely are you trying to do?
00:38.03Free99I basically have Read(inputvar,"silence/1",,,,10), and then I'm trying to use execif
00:38.14Free99strip a 1 off the entered number if its there
00:38.34Free99a 1 prefix, to be precise
00:39.02WIMPyWell, then execif is the obvious one.
00:39.57Free99WIMPy, yep. thing is, do I really need to jump to a second label or something if I just want to execute a simple action like Set(varname=${varname:1})?
00:40.28Free99would it help if I pastebin the relevant section?
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00:40.37WIMPyANo, that would be GotoIf. With ExecIf you just do it there.
00:41.43Free99so same => n,ExecIf($["${GET:0:1}" = "1"]?Set(varname = ${varname}) looks ok?
00:42.06Free99rather, same => n,ExecIf($["${GET:0:1}" = "1"]?Set(varname = ${varname:1})
00:42.12WIMPyIf you add a :1 near the end.
00:42.21WIMPyYes, that way.
00:42.32Free99dude awesome. thanks very much
00:43.53Free99WIMPy, by the way: how do I know when I need to quote things and such, or is it similar to sh programming, where "" forces something to be parsed as a string
00:44.27WIMPyNo, Asterisk doesn't use quotes. They become part of both strings.
00:45.31WIMPyBut usingg either quotes or anything else prevents syntax errors in case a variable is empty similar to what happens on the shell.
00:45.47Free99hmm. so why is it necessary to, in a execif for instance, use "${varname}" when comparing two items? Based on what I've read it looks like it has something to do with handling null input
00:46.36WIMPyExactely. You can do it the same way as some people do in the shel as well and compare X{varname}=X0.
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00:47.02WIMPyQuotes just look nicer, but don't have a special meaning.
00:47.29Free99Good to know :) thanks WIMPy
00:50.37igcewielingFree99: your question indicates a basic lack of understanding about Asterisk,  You should read the book.  what you are doing is covered in the book.
00:50.39igcewieling~book
00:50.39infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
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00:52.01Free99whoa, igcewieling you stopped ignoring me. Thanks for the tip
00:52.22igcewielingFree99: My /ignores are not persistant.
00:52.46igcewielingok, MOST of them are not.
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00:59.39Free99asterisk is so damn cool lol
01:00.14leifmadsenit's ok
01:00.15leifmadsen:D
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01:01.38Free99is it true that one is required to retain voicemail for up to 7 years if you're an international service provider? The president of the company keeps mentioning that but I find no record of it
01:02.05WIMPySometimes it feels like I'm one of a few who have missed the transition to FreeSwitch.
01:02.06Free99so we've decided not to offer voicemail though I think people would really like it
01:04.08leifmadsenpffft freeswithc
01:04.13leifmadsenI guess if you love xml
01:04.33WIMPyNo, I hate it.
01:05.05Free99yeah, but trying to maintain an asterisk config via database is a bitch if you don't want to expose yourself with phpmyadmin or w/e
01:05.17Free99they all suck respectively
01:05.24Free99:P
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01:10.16leifmadsenwell you shouldn't be maintaining any database by hand :)
01:10.22leifmadsenyou're doing it wrong./
01:12.11Free99good thing I'm not... but if you've run a DB long enough, you know at some point you'll need to peer into it or modify a value manually. Not going to say its a guarantee, but.. it might be lifetime warrantied
01:12.27Free99(shrug) iunno man, that's all I got
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01:23.35gnudnahi guys
01:24.57gnudnaanybody using asterisk from debian backports and has cisco 7960 phones?
01:25.15gnudnathey are failing registration but i am able to dial out
01:25.26gnudnacalling the phone takes me to voicemail
01:25.50gnudnaanybody have a simple solution for this while staying on the version of asterisk i am on?
01:26.42gnudnaversion i am on btw is 1.8.13.1~dfsg-1~bpo60+1
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01:56.21gnudnaso nobody has any thoughts? on getting a cisco 7960 to register with asterisk 1.8?
01:57.26gnudnasip debug shows the phone sending register request but asterisk does not seem to be honoring it?
01:58.44gnudnapastebin link or sip debug http://pastebin.com/JsAbDHYh
01:58.57gnudnabtw this worked on asterisk 1.6.x
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02:00.26gnudnaall cisco 7960 are doing this since upgrade ;(
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05:38.15*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 11.3.0 (2013/03/28), 10.12.2 (2013/03/27), 1.8.21.0 (2013/03/28), DAHDI-linux 2.6.2 (2013/03/08), DAHDI-tools 2.6.2 (2013/03/08), libpri 1.4.14 (2012/12/20) -=- Visit the official Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org
05:53.21[TK]D-FenderAddisk: Everyone who I've ever sen come in here with those had loads of problems
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06:05.48bulkorokhi
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06:31.45toresbeHey folks. I have a non-strictly-Asterisk question about an odd piece of hardware I've found three of: It's a Codex 6250 E1 multiplexor.
06:32.17toresbeDoes that ring any bells with anyone here?
06:32.40ChannelZOnly the ringing in my ears
06:32.56toresbeI've googled but found very little, certainly not enough for someone as inexperienced as I am with telephony to piece together the necessary info
06:34.06ChannelZWhat is the actual question?
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06:34.59toresbeI'm trying to phrase it well - basically, the device has some E&M and some FXS ports, and muxes them over an E1. I guess my question would be - how can I tell if it will play well with Asterisk?
06:36.32ChannelZWell I'm guessing you'd need an E1 card on the Asterisk side but after that no reason why not
06:37.10ChannelZIE this thing is a black box with an E1 port on it? (plus all the FXSes and such)
06:40.47AddiskFML, did i get a bust with redfone device?
06:42.06ChannelZSo far yes
06:44.12ChannelZIt seems troubling that their setup support refers to Asterisk 1.4 and 1.6
06:45.25ChannelZBut it looks like TDMoE which is more agnostic (a DAHDI-side thing)
06:46.23toresbeChannelZ: yep. I'd get the hardware, of course. My worry is just about the possibility that this might have some different sort of encapsulation or multiplexing standard that would prevent Asterisk from seeing the lines.
06:48.18ChannelZwell technically speaking E1/T1 et all are defined standards, so if these multiplex boxes speak their own language I'm not sure what they're useful for.
06:49.48toresbepoint-to-point links, maybe? This comes from a TV station, so there's tons of unconventional equipment in use - as well as conventional equipment in unconventional setups :)
06:50.42ChannelZTV is nothing if not unconventional
06:51.03ChannelZBut E1 should be E1 and if it's not they shouldn't be calling it that.
06:52.30ChannelZYou might have to sit around here for weeks asking in order to find someone who has that particular kit. You're better off trying to find someone local to you with a Digium card you can test with and just try it, or buy one and if it doesn't work resell it for a few bucks loss
06:52.56Addiskdamn
06:53.26Addiskwell its brand new, and been < a month
06:53.27ChannelZ(that was to toresbe BTW)
06:54.04ChannelZAddisk: eh?
06:59.33Addiskthe redfone devices i got are new
06:59.47Addiski got the 2 port & 1 port, hoping it can utilize them in a virtual asterisk setup
07:00.35Addiskcent 6.4 is hyperv ready, so i got that going on a hyperv machine working. just can't configure the damn redfone
07:00.40Addisksame issue with virtualbox
07:01.01Addiskif this is no good, then i gotta fall back to my old phsyical + t1 card machines
07:01.14ChannelZwell since they are TDM over Ethernet they do need proper networking access
07:01.23Addiskthe access works
07:01.35Addiskjust the tool doens't seem to match their documentation
07:01.42Addisklike setting the IP & configuring the dadhi
07:01.58Addiskwhen i try to match the dahdi setting, i get a system halt error, and my vm is gone
07:02.05Addiski have to revert to previous setting so i can get back into it
07:02.44Addiski'm gonan try to contact their support, but hopeing someone here would know
07:04.47ChannelZI believe the DAHDI side is by MAC address not IP
07:06.13Addiskyea
07:06.20Addiski'm doing the config via mach
07:06.22Addiskmac*
07:06.50Addiskso i added dynamic=ethmf,eth1/00:50:C2:65:XX:XX/0,31,0 into the dahdi/system.conf
07:07.07Addiskand the bchan=1-23, dbdan=24
07:07.13Addiskand the system dies
07:07.19Addiskwhen dahdi reloads
07:08.50ChannelZI can only guess that it's the VM barfing on whatever lower level network access the TDMoE driver is trying to do.  Or the modules are bunk.
07:09.27ChannelZNot sure how VM-tollerant DAHDI is. Did you compile it yourself?
07:09.33Addisknope
07:09.49ChannelZso it's a package?
07:09.50Addiskso i tried out piaf, they actualy setup the entire image for testing
07:09.51Addiskyea
07:09.55Addiskfor virtualbox
07:10.51ChannelZshrugs
07:11.08Addiski can tell you my version is 2.6.2
07:11.17Addiskwhile the redfone refers to 2.4
07:11.56ChannelZOut of my realm.  It sounds like DAHDI that is crashing, not related to the redfone in particular.  VM issue
07:16.51Addiskwhats the usual command to reload the dadhi setup?
07:17.16Addiski've been doing dadhi_cfg, genconf, scan
07:19.04Addiskomg, one of those worked lol
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07:19.24Addisksystem didn't halt, and dahdi reloaded
07:20.16Addiskdoes the dahdi_test bring much revlanence anymore?
07:20.37Addiski remember back when i setup my super old asterisk 1.2, it was a biggy
07:20.47Addiskthe system is getting 99.99x
07:21.10Addiskwith this vm, i'm getting like 99.8xx
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07:23.40Addiskyup there we go, a manual config with 2 lines bust the VM, fml
07:23.46Addisk2 T1
07:25.14Addiskwhat does it mean, "TDMoX: No master."
07:27.16Addiskdamnit it all, should of gotten the SIP gateways
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07:33.33kaldemarAddisk: DAHDI does not have a master clock. from system.conf.sample: "Note that you MUST have a REAL DAHDI device if you are not using external timing."
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07:33.54kaldemarAddisk: you have timing set to 0 which means you're not using external timing. at least for the dynamic span.
07:35.06Addiskwhat should i have there?
07:35.30Addiskwell, when it says real, does it mean i need a real PCI/PCIe dahdi card?
07:35.44Addiski was being told that the redfone emulates itself to be in teh systme somehow
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07:42.11Addiskum, i set the other one to be 1
07:42.24Addiskand get half after dahdi_cfg
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07:48.32Addiskdamnit it all i guess i need some sleep and figure this out in morning :(
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07:50.14eagles0513875Addisk: usually when you leave stuff alone they have a strange way of working themselves out when you come back to them
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08:00.38flingkaldemar: why do I need to reboot my nat router to fix issues with sip?
08:01.01flingkaldemar: registration starts working and stun peer become online after reboot
08:01.22flingkaldemar: no reboots needed for connecting for other peers :| am I missing something?
08:01.33flinglike route cache or something else…
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08:07.31kaldemarfling: your router is crap.
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08:09.19ChannelZFOR ME TO POOP ON!
08:14.07flingkaldemar: ok :P
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08:22.48polysicsdoes the "quiet" option on a peer mean he will not HEAR ConfBbridge announcements, or PRODUCE any?
08:23.03polysicsI would like admins to hear "someone joined" sound while normal users should not
08:23.21polysicsbut it looks like quiet is "do no produce sounds when joining", so the reverse
08:31.14polysicsI hate convoluted customer requests.
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08:52.08polysicsno one knows? :-)
08:53.34Faustovsorry I'm still stuck on meetme ;)
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10:03.06linociscohi all
10:03.31emamdouh<PROTECTED>
10:04.12linociscohow can users generally know which PSTN lines are busy or free before making a phone call outside?
10:05.02kaldemarlinocisco: "PSTN line" really means nothing. and a user probably has no such information. your PBX might have.
10:06.07linociscokaldemar, so to save time for users, how can users know which lines are free or busy before entering all long no. ?
10:06.17kaldemaremamdouh: see what lsdahdi tells you
10:07.55kaldemarlinocisco: maybe you'd need to build a web page that shows status or something similar. sounds quite dumb though. if they have time to stare at such a status, they probably have time to dial the number aswell.
10:08.58linociscokaldemar, no. what I mean is that there can be two confusing "busy status", all outgoing PSTN lines are busy or destination no. are busy
10:09.24linociscokaldemar, if either one is busy , call cant be established directly
10:10.16linociscokaldemar, users should have line indicator or something before making calls to see "busy" status is from which side
10:11.42kaldemarlinocisco: you only know the status of your connectivity, if the interface provides such status. you don't have any information about the destination.
10:12.34linociscokaldemar, how can I know status of connectivity as normal user via phone?
10:12.54kaldemarwhat kind of a phone?
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10:19.44linociscokaldemar, cisco 7942G and SPA502G and ATA FXS HT702 with 2 ports
10:23.03kaldemardeja vu. use device state or keep count in your dialplan.
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10:23.57kaldemaranyway, you basically cannot indicate the state in your phone without making a call.
10:25.02kaldemarsome phones support so called desktop messages that stuff text in the idle screen of the phone. you'd need to build something to send those if your phone(s) support them.
10:26.48linociscokaldemar, in real world asterisk deployment, how do u all setup for this kind of line information?
10:31.27kaldemari'd guess there aren't many who do.
10:32.22kaldemarif your users get busy because you don't have enough capacity, there are better solutions. like getting more capacity.
10:36.36linociscokaldemar, no. i mean just to want to give users know the status before making calls
10:36.57linociscothat feature can be easily avaliable on Panasonic Legacy PBX
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10:44.06MrNemoребят, подскажите хороший гайд по вытаскиванию cdr, желательно со скриптами оптимизации удобочитаемости, если таковой имеется, не смог найти что-то более менее путное
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10:58.50emamdouhkaldemar: check http://pastebin.com/r1TUwP8W
10:59.00emamdouhkaldemar: what does this mean ?
10:59.52kaldemaremamdouh: you have red alarms on channels 1-3 which in your case probably means that they are not connected.
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11:00.45roxgreetings
11:00.47emamdouhkaldemar: ok thanks
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11:03.17roxI have a SIP peer, that has qualify=no (it doesn't take OPTIONS packets), however, i still need to fail over to another peer if this peer is down. Is there a way of doing that in Dial()? From what i read in the manual, Dial() can timeout if the call isn't answered, but does anybody know of an option for Dial() to timeout if ringing doesn't start in a specified period?
11:04.09WIMPyLook at the timers in sip.conf.
11:05.55roxWIMPy: what specifically did you have in mind?
11:06.58WIMPyNothing
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11:15.07roxRegarding SIP session timers; If I set the session-expires parameter to something like 2 seconds, then Dial() will fail after that period of time?
11:16.29WIMPyYou can't set session-timers that low.
11:16.54WIMPyThe timers should be called timer* AFAIR.
11:18.04polysicsdoes anyone know what "quiet" in ConfBridge actually does? thanks :-)
11:18.18polysicsdoes it prevent the user from HEARING conf sounds or from MAKING them?
11:20.24roxWIMPy: session timers will not solve my problem. Thank you for your suggestion, though, I appreciate it.
11:21.39WIMPyIt's the wrong timer.
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11:24.22kaldemarrox: not session timers, "SIP timers"
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11:33.43polysicsfinding docs on some functions is quite difficult :-)
11:33.54roxkaldemar: i checked it out. I guess i need to use timerb=timeout. Do you perhaps know, will this exit Dial() after timeout even if qualify=no is set?
11:34.06kaldemarpolysics: "core show function <function>"
11:34.38kaldemarrox: qualify has little to do with Dial behavior.
11:35.21roxkaldemar: well, if qualify=no is set, Dial() will hang forever if the peer does not respond.
11:35.25polysicskaldemar: the "quiet" confbridge.conf value (and some others) seem to not be actually explained anywhere
11:35.40polysicsunless I am dumb but I still don't get the explanation :-)
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11:36.23kaldemarpolysics: it has some kind of explanation in the sample config.
11:37.13polysicskaldemar: do you happen to know, by chance, if quiet means "you hear no sounds" or "you don't make sounds when entering etc"?
11:37.16GreenlightDoesn't quiet just stop the leave and join sounds?
11:37.19polysicsthat's what is not clear
11:37.29GreenlightIt's what you *hear*
11:38.09polysicsso, if A is quiet=no and is in the conference, and B is quiet=yes and joins, A hears the sound (provided you configure it ofc) and B does not?
11:38.10GreenlightAfaik there's no way to have certain people not generate the sounds and others to generate them, unless of course you implemented something yourselfg
11:38.34Greenlightpolysics: Exactly
11:38.45GreenlightIt controls what the profile will hear
11:38.53polysicsthen I am doing something wrong, but thanks for clarifying that :-)
11:38.59GreenlightNo probs
11:39.08WIMPyDoing it yourself isn't a bad idea as you can do it in parallel then.
11:39.23polysicsI am probably not setting the correct profile for either of the users
11:39.47polysicsWIMPy: this app already has a ton of "outside" logic, everything I can get from "static" config I would like to have
11:40.10WIMPyYou can also set specific options via the dialplan function.
11:40.41polysicsI tried both but I am not hearing the sound - investigating what's wrong :-)
11:40.49kaldemarpolysics: quiet=yes means "do not play join/leave sounds to user or conference"
11:41.20polysicskaldemar: so if an user with quiet=yes joins, he does not "make" sounds for the others either?
11:41.26polysicssort of a ninja mode?
11:41.36polysicsthat's the reverse of what Greenlight above said
11:41.47GreenlightYea, that's not how I've seen it work
11:41.52GreenlightOr how I understood it
11:42.01Greenlightquiet=no and they hear leave and join sounds
11:42.30kaldemarpolysics: quiet=yes should not play join sound to the conference, yes.
11:42.48polysicshmm, ok
11:42.51kaldemarpolysics: i didn't test it, just took a look at the code briefly.
11:42.56polysicswhat would get me the above behavior then?
11:43.06polysicsA is in conf, B joins, A hears "ping" sound but not B
11:43.11polysicsif there is something ,that is
11:43.26kaldemarpolysics: modifying the source. :P
11:43.27GreenlightThat's not the way the docs read either: When set to "yes," enter/leave prompts and user introductions are not played. By default, no.
11:43.41polysicsare not played is ambiguous
11:44.02polysicskaldemar: no ConfBridge config does the above? Knowing is half the battle, thanks :-)
11:44.05kaldemarpolysics: both "plays" are inside if (!quiet). and quiet is the flag in the user profile.
11:44.14polysicsAdhearsion to the rescue
11:44.46GreenlightI guess it's simple enough to test
11:45.47polysicsyeah, I am not hearing the sounds
11:45.58polysicsBUT I was unsure I was doing things correctly
11:46.00polysicsnow I know I am
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11:47.13polysicsok, another difficult one
11:47.28polysicscan I set Caller ID so that A sees B's number on the phone LCD?
11:47.40polysicscaller ID or whatever allows me to set that message
11:48.02WIMPyThat question needs clarification.
11:48.33WIMPyDo you want to do it in the conference?
11:48.55polysicsyes, in the conference
11:48.59Greenlightpolysics: For a normal call that's what you'd normally see. If you mean for the conference, then it depends on your situation
11:49.12polysicsA is alone in the conf. B joins. A sees B's number on the LCD/softphone.
11:49.19WIMPyYou have to do it manually using CONNECTEDLINE.
11:49.23GreenlightWhat if A isn't alone
11:49.38polysicsA will always be alone or with B, confs are limited to 2
11:49.47polysicswe use this to lower connection times for an outbound call center
11:49.54GreenlightIf Confs are limited to 2, why not use a normal call
11:49.59WIMPyMaybe you should use Bridge instead of ConfBridge?
11:50.04Greenlight+1
11:50.06polysicslower connection times
11:50.17polysicsoh, Bridge, I see
11:50.25polysicsI could park people on MoH
11:50.30polysicsagents, I mean
11:50.35polysicsand just bridge them
11:50.46polysicsyeah, that's an idea to consider
11:50.47GreenlightIf this is for outbound dialling, stay clear of what your trying to do with ConfBridge, I speak from experiance, it's a world of pain :)
11:51.24polysicswe are 90% done :-)
11:51.31polysicsyou would use MoH + Brdige?
11:51.43polysicshow do you return agent to MoH after call is done?
11:51.44GreenlightI've moved from the ConfBridge method to that, yes
11:52.00GreenlightBridge does that, it dumps Channel1 back into dialplan
11:52.18GreenlightYou just need a Wait(600) then a GoTo to loop it
11:52.29GreenlightAfter the bridge, the agent goes back into their "holding area"
11:52.52polysicsthat sounds way more sensible
11:53.02GreenlightThe main problem you'll get with confbridge is that you're very reliant on really good timing on asterisk
11:53.09GreenlightIt's *mixing* EVERYTHING
11:53.11polysicswell, let's pretend I can't change for now. CONNECTEDLINE sets caller ID arbitrarily?
11:54.37WIMPyIt obviousely depends on the channeltype used, but generelly, yes.
11:55.01polysicsSIP only here
11:55.23polysicsso it is as simple as EXEC CONNECTEDLINE "Poly<1234>"?
11:56.03WIMPyThe syntax doesn't look good.
11:56.10WIMPyIt's a function.
11:56.38GreenlightIs this via AGI ?
11:56.47polysicseither AGI or AMI
11:56.51polysicsAMI is what I prefer
11:57.02GreenlightSet it, like a variable
11:57.06GreenlightSince it's functiomn
11:59.16polysicsso it would use AMI SetVar? I don't think I get it, sorry
11:59.53WIMPyyes
12:00.28GreenlightExactly, let me grab an example
12:00.37GreenlightAMIRequest_SetVar(oCurrentChannel, "AUDIOHOOK_INHERIT(MixMonitor)", "yes");
12:01.08GreenlightIn this example AUDIOHOOK_INHERIT is the function, and we SetVar it to "yes"
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12:01.49WIMPyAnd you need that function we don;t know :-)
12:02.04polysicsin waht sense we don't know? :-)
12:02.52WIMPyWe don't know that function. We can guess it, but I question it's an example. :-)
12:03.36GreenlightYea, I was relying on your guessing that all it does is do a SetVar :)
12:03.57GreenlightChannel, Variable, Value ...
12:04.36polysicsVariable would be, say, CONNECTEDLINE(number,i)
12:04.41polysicsand value 123456
12:04.51polysicsdoes that work?
12:05.25GreenlightSure, that looks good
12:05.43WIMPyIf another one without ,i follows, yes.
12:06.04GreenlightI just stops spamming messages doesn't it
12:06.06Greenlight"i"
12:06.25GreenlightOr does that actually stop the message to the handset ?
12:06.30polysicsapparently, the docs are sparse on this too
12:06.58GreenlightYea, after looking at the docs there, loose the "i"
12:07.04WIMPyThe idea is if you want to set num and name, you set the first with ",i", preventing it from doing anyhting and then the oter without ",i" which then sends out both.
12:08.26WIMPyYou could do both without ",i", but some phones don't like to be spammed.
12:09.44WIMPyI think it would have been clearer if you would just set variables and then call an application to send the update, but off course the current way saves the extra step.
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12:17.50tparcinaCan I use one manager user for more clients?
12:19.10tparcinaI'm planing to setup Nojee Click 2 dial, and I wonder can more users use same manager user?
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12:19.24[TK]D-Fendertpiif you mean AMI, yes
12:19.31[TK]D-Fendertparcina: if you mean AMI, yes
12:19.41WIMPyEven if I don't know what you want to do, I say yes, as I'm sure it's the answer to any possible meaning of the question.
12:19.59tparcina[TK]D-Fender: Thank you.
12:20.36tparcinaWIMPy: Thank you as well. :D
12:21.34polysicsgreat, thanks
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12:23.41tparcinaTo dial two numbers using manager interface, call, command and user rights should be enough, right?
12:25.55tparcinaI see plenty of configuration examples giving, simple click2dial Firefox extension that uses manager interface, all rights. But I assume those (call,command,user) should be enough.
12:32.50[TK]D-Fendertparcina: No, "command" is deadly.  Do not give it to anything you don't have to.
12:33.22Kobazyou dont need user either
12:33.34cerienjeanHello - I am looking for advice on multiwan/multihomed installation. I'd like to have one asterisk server, with multiple nics, each nated (no choice), with a dsl link and a public adress. How can I have clients registering on either nic and asterisk replying thorugh the correct nic ?
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12:34.25tparcinaCall will be enough?
12:34.26[TK]D-Fendercerienjean: You'd have to run separate SIP proxies for each nic.
12:34.33[TK]D-Fendertparcina: To place a call?  yes.
12:34.52cerienjeanthat is what I was starting to think - what proxy could you recommend - I guess needs to be light
12:35.04[TK]D-Fendertparcina: Actually, that GETS or SETS values for an existing call.
12:35.09tparcina[TK]D-Fender: OK, thank you. I'll try it.
12:35.12[TK]D-Fendertparcina: ORIGINATE is what you're looking for.
12:35.23Kobazthe popular one is kamillio
12:35.51cerienjeanright - formerly opensips ? - isnt it using a hammer to kill a fly ?
12:36.09Kobazit's a sip proxy
12:36.16cerienjeanI mean, sophisticated stuff to do a simple task ?
12:36.17Kobazany sip proxy you use is going to be fairly complex
12:36.25cerienjeanok - thanks
12:36.40Kobazbecause people have many different needs for a sip proxy
12:37.05tparcina[TK]D-Fender: I guess the application first calls my phone number, then the other one, and at the end connects those two calls.
12:38.03[TK]D-Fendertparcina: I would not "guess" that.
12:38.08tparcina[TK]D-Fender: You know all those stuff or use some web page I'm not familiar with?
12:38.11[TK]D-Fendertparcina: I would also not "guess" at all.
12:39.11tparcina[TK]D-Fender: In you know all those stuff I ment about GETS, SETS and ORIGINATE.
12:39.36[TK]D-Fendertparcina: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+manager+API
12:39.42tparcinaAnd yes, it's smart not to assume things. I should know that by now. :)
12:41.23[TK]D-Fendertparcina: "command" is an automatic escalation to "practically take over the entire server"
12:42.04cerienjeankobaz: so asterisk binds to one NIC, the sip proxy binds to the other - I figure out easily the incoming part, but how asterisk should reply so the proxy is used ? assuming client is X -> Proxy Public IP -> Proxy -> Asterisk - should the proxy modify From/To ? How would asterisk reply ?
12:42.32[TK]D-Fendercerienjean: to the proxy of course
12:43.12cerienjeanagreed - then how does the proxy knows where to forward the packet ?
12:43.16cerienjeanmessage
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12:43.23Kobazbased on how you configure it
12:43.59[TK]D-Fendercerienjean: because SIP ROUTE headers tell it....
12:44.10[TK]D-Fendercerienjean: Go read up on how SIP works.
12:44.31cerienjeanok - will do and revert if need be - thanks
12:44.44[TK]D-Fendercerienjean: You'll also need one that proxies the MEDIA as well, not just the signalling
12:44.54Kobazactually, a little overkill but you could run asterisk on two different interfaces as proxies
12:45.15WIMPyTime to upgrade to 3.9.0. CVE-2013-2094
12:45.19Kobazmaybe with reinvites, and then have a main asterisk actual media server
12:45.22[TK]D-FenderKobaz: Depends what you intend to do with it, but that could be possible.
12:45.42cerienjeanok - thanks for the ideas
12:45.43[TK]D-FenderKobaz: reinvite = DOA
12:45.59Kobazoh right
12:46.02[TK]D-FenderKobaz: because it'd try to hop IP to the one the main is bound to.
12:46.05Kobazyou'll need to proxy the call entirely
12:46.12Kobazyeah exactly
12:46.17Kobazwhich is the original problem trying to be solved
12:46.42Kobazthat's why i said maybe
12:46.43Kobazheh
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12:57.01Kobazdo de do de do breaking stuff
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13:26.19toresbeChannelZ: thanks for the advice :)
13:26.52toresbeChannelZ: I'll probably just buy a Digium card to play around anyway, so I'll test it on my own kit.
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13:40.37Kattyleifmadsen: congrats on your collaborative effort going into print
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13:51.30leifmadsenKatty: w00t
14:10.23zpotoloomCVE-2013-2094
14:11.26zpotoloomhmm, that definately wasn't ctrl+c :P
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14:24.05msaraivaIs there too much of a performance penalty by compiling Asterisk with MALLOC_DEBUG enabled?
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14:24.22leifmadsenmsaraiva: there can be a penalty on that, yes
14:24.25pabelangerdefine too much
14:25.48msaraivaHumm, thanks for the prompt answer.
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14:27.02msaraivaI've seem a spike in memory consumption going from Asterisk 1.8 to Asterisk 11.
14:27.17msaraivaSo i was looking into tracking down the reason.
14:28.01msaraiva*seen
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15:34.59emamdouhhi, how to create an extension for a fax device ?
15:36.03leifmadsenexten => fax,1,NoOp()
15:39.13emamdouhleifmadsen: sorry ? , I'm using trixbox
15:39.26leifmadsenoh, then you should use #freepbx channel
15:39.33leifmadsenthis is for vanilla asterisk
15:39.50leifmadsenI've used that gui interface exactly 1 time
15:40.41emamdouhok thanks
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15:55.19MrNemoребят русские есть?
15:55.32QwellIf anybody gets messages from Dan French / caterwaul, please send me a copy.  Hopkins PD is interested in seeing them.
15:56.03GreenlightOooh sounds like that ones excalated since last time ^^
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16:34.19MrNemoесть кто по-русски говорит?
16:34.49navaismo00
16:34.50GreenlightMrNemo: This is generally an English-speaking channel, if you can ask your question in English, you may have a better response
16:36.46MrNemook, sorry please
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16:37.15protocolushi all
16:37.53protocolusanyone know how to save the audio from SayUnixTime?
16:38.14protocolusi want to play it back with a backgroundDetect
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16:42.54protocoluswelcome Gaiax
16:43.06Gaiaxprotocolus: thankx bro.
16:43.32protocolusyou know a lot about asterisk?
16:43.49Gaiaxlol no man..
16:44.04Gaiaxjust a little bit.. i'd love to.
16:44.09protocolusi hear ya me too
16:44.39Gaiaxi use more elastix but, im reading about asterisk
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16:46.00protocolusi'm trying to figure out how to save the output of the agi SayUnixTime to a file
16:46.15protocolusso i can play it back with background detect
16:46.26navaismohave you tried with monitor/mixmonitor
16:47.00protocolusi could use monitor but i only know how to do tht while on a call
16:47.25protocolusi'm trying to leave a voicemail
16:47.38protocolusand i restart the message on backgrounddetect
16:47.53navaismothe same thing just add the monitor/mixmonitor before dial and check if the audio is saved
16:48.15protocolusbut if the beep happens right when i'm doing sayunixtime it doesn't work because it doesn't detect
16:48.25protocolusohh
16:48.30navaismoanyway i dont fully understand your request, just saying which apps can help you.
16:48.35protocolusi have a channel before dial
16:49.00protocolusno thank you i think i see what you mean
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16:55.12protocolusnavaismo: so i am trying to make outgoing calls using call files and leave voicemails to clients about upcoming appointments, can i make a call file that has a "local" channel so i can record the wav from the sayunixtime app
16:55.19KattyASTERISK, etc.
16:55.26protocolusthen i could make the real call file to the client
16:55.29Kattyet cetera.
16:56.54protocolushi Katty
16:58.08navaismoprotocolus, yes you can create call files pointing to a local channel, and there in the context you can control whatever you want
16:58.42protocoluswhat is that call i only ever did IAX, SIP DAHDI etc
16:58.53Kattyprotocolus: ohai.
16:59.48navaismoinstead using sip/number you use local/exten@context/n
17:00.08protocolushehe easy stuff always looks hard
17:00.30Kattyi love call files.
17:00.35protocolusme too!
17:01.04Kattyyou can use a geovision server to tell you when someone paces a set line in a video camera.
17:01.07Kattythat kicks off an email.
17:01.17Kattythat email can then turned into a call file.
17:01.27Kattywith some parsing, and/or cron job stuffs.
17:01.34Kattywhich can then go RINGING
17:01.37KattyUPS is here.
17:02.36protocolusi want to do a cheap overhead paging system what's a good way to do it?
17:02.42Kattyapollo.
17:03.28Kattysince you can pipe commands into it, you can issue bash from dialing extensions
17:03.31Kattyand make it do stuff
17:03.35Kattywith open ssh keys.
17:03.39protocolusnice
17:03.44protocolusyou have a link?
17:03.54navaismoprotocolus, use the audio from the server and connect many speakers to it :)
17:04.02Katty^- using apollo.
17:04.25_Corey_protocolus: Buy an ATA and one of the analog paging amps from Bogon or Valcom...  probably the most traditional solution (+/- $300)
17:04.51protocolussounds easy _Corey_
17:05.03Kattybut piping commads is so much more fun :<
17:05.32protocolustrue that Katty
17:05.34Kattysomeone triggers an event on the vid. surv system, which sends a notification to the phone system, which sends a notification to pipe audio the another system to the speakers
17:05.47KattyUPS IS HERE
17:07.02_Corey_protocolus: Simple is safe
17:07.09protocolusoh they have sip enabled ceiling speakers with POE
17:07.46_Corey_Cyberdata has that stuff...  it's more expensive though
17:09.45protocolusyeah that was what i was looking at
17:11.02protocolusKatty what kind of video system are you using?
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17:16.23jkistersomeone please ban caterwaul for spam
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17:25.19navaismohehe sharing the video?
17:25.27Kattyprotocolus: anything with email alerts would probably work
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17:27.55[TK]D-Fenderjkister: Not what it was for, and not the way to ask.  Also extremely unlikely, especially getting the request from some random user.
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17:36.47saint_hi all
17:40.30navaismoo/
17:40.53saint_does Digium offer 1 G729 for free, or no ?
17:41.06saint_I thought I read that somewhere that the 1st one was free..
17:41.12navaismoas far i know no
17:41.33navaismoonly hpecs license with the registration of the digium card
17:41.40saint_ok, thanks
17:41.44navaismoor Free fax for asterisk
17:41.58saint_I'm using VOIP.MS as an add on with google voice.
17:42.06saint_I wish I could find a provider that would support SRTP
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17:44.38saint_who the heck is caterwaul
17:45.17_Corey_saint_: Someone sending random PMs
17:45.43saint_yeah. he is telling me "hey , check my youtube video , i explain how to get g729" .. yeah right -
17:46.56pabelangerIf caterwaul is harassing you, hope over to #freenode and complain
17:47.08pabelangerI believe he already got a warning or something
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17:53.37saint_I added him in my ignore list ..
17:53.42saint_thanks for the info though
17:55.13saint_can someone explain to me the context=xxx in the [general] section of sip.conf ..
17:55.21saint_how is this used in the whole picture ?
17:55.25saint_is it just to give a name  ?
17:55.42saint_I have a register = xxxxx
17:56.14saint_or does it mean i need to have the same context in my extension.conf for incoming calls ?
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18:13.09*** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 11.3.0 (2013/03/28), 10.12.2 (2013/03/27), 1.8.21.0 (2013/03/28), DAHDI-linux 2.6.2 (2013/03/08), DAHDI-tools 2.6.2 (2013/03/08), libpri 1.4.14 (2012/12/20) -=- Visit the official Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org
18:27.29[TK]D-Fendersaint_I added him in my ignore list .. < ?
18:27.37[TK]D-FenderWhat'd I miss?
18:28.52navaismoa spam mesasge with video tutorial
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18:30.25[TK]D-FenderAh yes....
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18:38.44leifmadsennavaismo: ya....
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18:52.21mivokIs it possible on the asterisk cli to evaluate a function and print its result? (Similar to how you can do NoOp(something) to print it in the log?
18:53.05igcewielingmivok: "core show applications like log"
18:53.16igcewieling"core show applications like verbose"
18:55.41mivokI'm not sure that's what I'm looking for - I want a way to run asterisk -r, then see the result of a dialplan function such as MAILBOX_EXISTS(foo)
18:56.02mivokbasically to interactively work out what I should be putting in my dialplan without having to actuall make the change/reload each time.
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18:57.01igcewielingmivok: that is not something which can be done, however setting higher debug levels might provide similar information
18:57.35igcewielingactually, it is not possible at all to do what you want inside of Asterisk
18:57.52mivokok, thanks
18:57.53[TK]D-Fendermivok: "voicemail show users" <-
18:58.09[TK]D-Fendermivok: that will show you what boxes exist
18:58.22[TK]D-Fendermivok: But no, you cannot execute dialplan logic from CLI.
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19:34.39asilvais anyone looking at this - ASTERISK-21787 ?
19:34.39LieutPants[ASTERISK-21787] [Status: Triage] No IAX2 communication either user/peer or friend accounts - https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-21787
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20:02.38navaismocan't find translation for triage is there a synonymous?
20:02.40cuscosomeone is having pong problems
20:03.35ChannelZMy paddle controller broke.
20:05.39asteriskandyoh lol sorry. i am rebooting trying to change ip. testing phone behavior when net goes down
20:07.14wdoekesnavaismo: triage = determining the priority
20:07.54wdoekesbugs are in triage when submitted and not "accepted" and prioritized yet
20:08.30navaismooh, thanks for the info wdoekes
20:34.27sweepermaaaan. I hate this. I'm working on an interctive classroom environment that uses webrtc, and the management types chose 'ICE' as the abbreviation.
20:34.42sweeperI can't see it used in that context without twitching
20:35.46navaismouh?
20:36.47sweepernavaismo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Connectivity_Establishment <-- this is the more common use of the acronym. and it's something I use every day in code to make things work behind NAT
20:36.59sweeperso the cognitive dissonance is significant
20:37.36navaismoo..ok; still lost
20:41.29sweepernavaismo: the thing we internally call "ICE" is very different from the thing I've used for years and am using now that is called "ICE"
20:42.10navaismogot it
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21:02.01saint_is there a recommendation in sip.conf or any other .conf file , about leaving a space on each side of the = signs ?
21:02.29saint_ie: would "videosupport = yes" work ? or should I use "videosupport=yes" without spaces around the =- sign ?
21:02.51filedoesn't matter
21:02.52leifmadsenboth should work
21:03.05leifmadsenI don't use spaces, but that's a style preference
21:03.17saint_i just found out by using sip show settings ..
21:03.21saint_i can see YES in front of video support.
21:03.22saint_thanks
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21:04.05saint_what's this about: Sending fake auth rejection for device xxxxx ..?
21:04.11saint_xxx being a digium phone ..
21:05.18[TK]D-Fendersaint_: It's an auth challenge
21:05.51saint_mmhh.. i might have broke something
21:06.01Maliutaleifmadsen: spaces are generally a no-no. Tabs are the way to go, then any dev can set his tab stop to however many chars he wants
21:06.42leifmadsenMaliuta: we're talking about different things, and tabs are a no-no in ruby and python land
21:07.02leifmadsenenvironment and context means everything
21:07.16navaismoscrew tab and spaces just program by enters XD
21:07.17leifmadsenbut in this case, using tabs/spaces is non-relevant
21:08.00Maliutaleifmadsen: you just proved why python and ruby are crap ;)
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21:08.48Maliutaan we should all be programming in raw binary anyway ;)
21:11.59MaliutaI just got to use a reference are to patching on FB as a pun, and someone actually got it
21:18.12saint_Is there a case sensitivity in the name of peers ?
21:18.29saint_I'm getting this error: Registration from '"HOME" <sip:office@192.168.1.242>' failed for '192.168.1.117:5060' - No matching peer found
21:18.41saint_But I named my peer Office (with an uppercase O) in sip.conf
21:19.02[TK]D-Fendersaint_: pastebin the peer masking only the secret
21:20.29Maliuta[TK]D-Fender to the rescue!
21:21.15saint_[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/LhrWpxyU
21:21.50[TK]D-Fendertype=phone <- BAD
21:22.11navaismoYes case sensitive
21:22.24[TK]D-Fenderscratch that
21:22.56[TK]D-Fender[Office](home) <- what is this (home)?
21:22.56MaliutaWait, when did type=phone become valid?
21:23.08[TK]D-FenderMaliuta: res_digium <-
21:23.26Maliuta[TK]D-Fender: as of release ... ?
21:23.47[TK]D-FenderMaliuta: Dunno, just that it at least wasn't referencing sip.conf :)
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21:24.06Maliutasaint_: the (home) should be a comment somewhere
21:24.40saint_[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/index/LhrWpxyU , with the home template
21:25.04saint_ouch, hold on
21:25.12navaismoOffice != office
21:26.31[TK]D-FenderBRB
21:26.53Maliutaand [Office](home) seems totally invalid
21:27.37navaismoMaliuta, its a valid template
21:27.42saint_Here, with everything : http://pastebin.com/iqHbVVm3
21:27.54navaismoOffice inherits the "home" template values
21:27.57saint_(home) is a template
21:28.01saint_see this new link http://pastebin.com/iqHbVVm3
21:28.36saint_My issue is that the phone "Office" is trying to register with office@xxx (lowercase o) - So my question was: Is the registration case sensitive ?
21:28.49saint_Because nowhere I have "office" with a lowercase o ..
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21:29.07saint_[TK]D-Fender: I was saying that this is the new pastebin with the home template: http://pastebin.com/iqHbVVm3
21:29.10navaismohate been ignored
21:29.46saint_[tk]d-fender:  My issue is that the phone "Office" is trying to register with office@xxx (lowercase o) - So my question was: Is the registration case sensitive ?
21:30.14Maliutasaint_: you want the quick fix? chage Office to office :)
21:30.28saint_Maliuta: that is valide, but I would like to understand though :)_
21:30.47navaismolalalala hey lalalalal hey hey *dancing around the fire*
21:30.55Maliutasaint_: something somewhere is forcing lower case (similar to what the SMTP RFC's demand)
21:31.04Maliutasaint_: full stop
21:31.16navaismoOffice != office
21:31.21MaliutaI'd have to read the SIP RFC's to be sure
21:31.28Maliutanavaismo: we know
21:31.31saint_navaismo: okay. but nowhere in the conf. I have office
21:31.41navaismofacepalms
21:31.43saint_I only have Office
21:31.53Maliutajoins navaismo
21:32.43Maliutasaint_: if the RFC forces lower case then the client will take your "Office" and turn it to "office" before transmission
21:33.00Maliutasaint_: which doesn't match [Office]
21:33.15Maliutaso fix the sip.conf
21:33.27saint_Maliuta: understand that. rfc 3261 ?
21:33.35Maliutayou can't change the RFC or client behaviour
21:33.54[TK]D-Fendersaint_: "sip show peer Office" <-
21:34.04Maliutasaint_: I'm not reading an RFC at 07:30 with no sleep
21:34.33saint_[TK]D-Fender: that works, you want the pastebin ?
21:34.42Maliuta[TK]D-Fender: I would have though just a "sip show peers"
21:34.49[TK]D-Fendersaint_: Clearly
21:35.25MaliutaThis is making my Earl Grey go cold, and stopping me messing with people on FB
21:35.33saint_[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/7rR2Qb5A
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21:37.06saint_Ha.. Is this it ?
21:37.10saint_http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3261.html , page 158
21:37.14saint_look for "lower case"
21:37.31saint_I'll switch Office to office. We'll see. stand by
21:38.36saint_that worked
21:38.39saint_lesson learned.
21:38.41Maliutasaint_: effectively that means that yes, lower case only
21:38.49Maliutasaint_: read the RFC first?
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21:39.36malcolmdnah, something else is at play.  i've taken your paste bin and successfully registered my phone using "Office"
21:39.37Maliutaalthough that said * should be forcing the sip peers to lower case inline with those RFC references
21:40.08saint_malcolmd: using DPMA ?
21:40.29saint_let me try with a regular sip phone, without using DPMA
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21:41.27malcolmdyup.  i copied in your sip.conf stuff (substituting a context i use for dial plan stuffs called "testing") and in your res_digium_phone.conf stuff (substituting my existing all-networks network).
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21:41.59saint_malcolmd: I confirm. a sip phone registering directly can send Office. If I try this with DPMA (at least with 1.8.5cert1), it will not send Office
21:42.32malcolmdit will, i'm doing it.   albeit i'm on asterisk 11 branch.
21:42.55saint_thank you for your help all by the way.
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22:09.32saint_malcolmd: i had the same issue with 2 other digium phones provisionned through dpma. i have it working with all lowercase, but if you have a chance you might want to have one of your tech guys give it a shot on 1.8.5cert1
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