IRC log for #asterisk on 20120723

00:04.06brokedcomputerLooking for help configuring Asterisk, after compiling it on Ubuntu x64
00:07.19ChannelZ<PROTECTED>
00:07.35ChannelZDo you have The Book?
00:09.43lorsungcusure he does
00:09.44lorsungcuhttp://www.asteriskdocs.org/en/3rd_Edition/asterisk-book-html/asterisk-book.html
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00:24.00lorsungcubroked, did you see the link?
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02:07.37LemensTSjoin /#openmeetings
02:07.48LemensTSdoh lol
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02:17.28brokedcomputerI want to run Asterisk on Ubuntu (10.04 if needed or 12.04 if possible and reliable) with a samba server in the background for other things. Could someone help me with this? I did get DAHDI and Asterisk built from source, but then my information source left.
02:41.28ChannelZ~thebook
02:41.29infobotAsterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook
02:41.45brokedcomputer... thanks for the help....
02:42.08ChannelZWhat you're asking for is someone to teach you how to build a house, by building the house for you.
02:42.34brokedcomputerNo, what I was asking if someone could help me, I never specified what about yet,
02:42.47ChannelZI can tell you a bunch of things to type into half a dozen config files, and you'll have no idea what any of it means.
02:42.50brokedcomputerI actually have most of the install done, what I needed was the GUI and I remember how to test it.
02:43.36ChannelZThis is mainly a support channel for Asterisk proper, not any of the GUIs
02:44.22brokedcomputerI do understand that, however someone could know something about it, and redirect me, the book wont help me install it on Ubuntu directly, usually they are geared toward setup and operation, I am not there yet.
02:45.11ChannelZ"make install"
02:45.26ChannelZ#freepbx
02:45.50brokedcomputerI did that, I am inbetween the initial making, and now onto getting the GUI to respond properly. FreePBX is just as quiet as here, I am in there too..
02:46.45ChannelZAnother reason I don't use FreePBX.  The documentation sucks and
02:50.15brokedcomputerOk, new question, Do I require a sub-network to put the phones on or can they be setup on the same standard network as my computers?
02:50.35ChannelZThey can be anywhere, including the other side of the planet
02:51.18brokedcomputerRight, so if I hook up a poe switch to my normal network, and IP phone it should pick up after setup right?
02:51.25brokedcomputer*If I get the settings right?
02:52.30ChannelZPresumably.
02:52.50brokedcomputer:P Thanks,
02:52.55brokedcomputerIn this you have been helpful.
02:53.50ChannelZOooh, zing.
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02:58.24brokedcomputerDo you know how to setup a Cisco phone on Asterisk?
02:58.46ChannelZDepends what flavor
02:59.20ChannelZI've not used Cisco-proper ones, only the Sipura->Linksys->Cisco variety
02:59.35brokedcomputerAsterisk 1.8.11-cert4
02:59.35brokedcomputerSource Tarball
02:59.40ChannelZThe concept is all the same though, point it at the Asterisk host, tell it a username and password..
02:59.51brokedcomputerOh I see, thats what you meant.
02:59.53ChannelZI meant flavor of phone
03:00.08brokedcomputerCisco IP Phone 7940 series
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03:03.05brokedcomputerHmmm
03:03.07ChannelZDon't think those are of the SPA variety so can't help specifically.  Are they SIP?  I want to say that series was Cisco's proprietary thing by default and you needed different SIP firmware
03:03.24brokedcomputerPossibly,
03:03.32brokedcomputer:P Currently I am trying to get one to boot. :P
03:05.42ChannelZHmm yeah I think those are Skinny (SCCP) normally
03:05.50ChannelZWhich is a whole other can of worms
03:09.46brokedcomputerYou want them to have sip right
03:11.32ChannelZWell you can use SCCP but you'll probably find less people here using it for help.
03:11.43brokedcomputerYou want sip right?
03:12.47ChannelZI would probably say it's preferred
03:12.53brokedcomputerSo, yes.
03:13.03brokedcomputerThen I will install sip, as it is possible.
03:13.15ChannelZIt's an open standard, SCCP I'm not sure is (it wasn't when it was created)
03:27.18lorsungcuthose will run SIP
03:27.21lorsungcubut it will suck
03:27.30brokedcomputerHow will it suck?
03:27.40lorsungcuyou will be able to make/receive calls
03:27.42lorsungcuthat's about it.
03:27.55brokedcomputerThats about all they really need it for... its a very long story.
03:28.01lorsungcuyeah, i hear that a lot
03:28.04brokedcomputerCan you still do did?
03:28.09lorsungcuwhat?
03:28.16brokedcomputerDirect inward dial/
03:28.21lorsungcuthat has nothing to do with the phone.
03:28.26ChannelZThat's secondary to the phone
03:28.33brokedcomputerSo then they have all the features they need. :P Hahahahahaha
03:28.52lorsungcui've moved ~500 cisco endpoints to SIP
03:29.02lorsungcuit never turns out well.
03:29.10brokedcomputerSo for arguments sake, what would you suggest then?
03:29.11ChannelZI think what he probably means is there are no special phone functions that work?  Keys for transferring, hold, or whatever?
03:29.15ChannelZDunno
03:29.21lorsungcutransferring works, hold works
03:29.26lorsungcubut anyone expecting a cisco phone
03:29.27ChannelZwell that's good
03:29.30lorsungcuwill be disappointed
03:29.44lorsungcuif all they seriously need
03:29.46brokedcomputerThey have analog phones, they expect it to call and receive calls... :P
03:29.48lorsungcuis to make/receive calls
03:29.54lorsungcuget some ATAs
03:30.02lorsungcuyou will seriously have a better experience.
03:30.03brokedcomputerATA's?
03:30.10bdfosteranalogue telephone adapter
03:30.11ChannelZHave you already bought these phones?
03:30.14lorsungcui dont mean to sound nasty
03:30.22lorsungcubut are you sure you're the best person to be doing thias/
03:30.25brokedcomputerThey are in my office powered up right now...
03:30.59ChannelZWell it's for a church, I'm assuming he's not being paid
03:31.04lorsungcuregardless
03:31.09ChannelZ:)
03:31.20bdfosteruh, i get paid to install phone systems in churches :-)
03:31.29brokedcomputerlorsungcu: Out of all the work I have done for the people that are in question, I have never started off knowing everything I need to, I learn fast, and work as needed. If we can ask and answer questions then it wont be a problem./
03:31.56bdfosterbrokedcomputer, what phones do you have?
03:32.03lorsungcucisco 79xx
03:32.05brokedcomputerI am also being paid, but not what its worth, and the phones are a addon, the main priority of the system is to pass the calls through and do Samba stuff.
03:32.06bdfosterugh
03:32.14brokedcomputerhahahah, getting worse and worse, :p
03:32.14lorsungcuya
03:32.37bdfosternext time, get polycoms ;-)
03:32.42lorsungcuor anything else
03:32.51bdfostertrue dat.
03:33.02lorsungcucisco SPA is fine, if you need a cisco name
03:33.04ChannelZAnyone actually used Digium's new phones?
03:33.04brokedcomputerWell, I will suggest that,
03:33.08lorsungcuyes, channelz
03:33.11lorsungcuhave some on my desk
03:33.13brokedcomputerNo I do not need cisco
03:33.21brokedcomputerIts what I was familiar with. :P
03:33.25ChannelZAnything interesting?
03:33.28bdfosterspa's are nice as mentioned
03:33.34bdfosteri have an spa921
03:33.38bdfosterworks great
03:33.42ChannelZhas SPA922s
03:33.51lorsungcuchannelz, pm me for info..
03:33.52bdfoster1up
03:33.59lorsungcui use snom 370
03:34.09lorsungcuso nice..
03:34.17bdfosteri recommend polycoms most of the time
03:34.22lorsungcuyes
03:34.23ChannelZI just wondered in general.  I was a little disapointed with the price
03:34.29lorsungcuthe new firmware is so nice
03:34.32lorsungcuchannelz
03:34.37lorsungcuyou'd be disappointed
03:34.42bdfosteryea it's freakin sweet
03:34.46bdfosterall the UC stuff
03:34.53bdfostereven on the ip335's
03:34.54lorsungcujsut the fact that the GUI works
03:35.04brokedcomputerWell we paid about 40$ for both phones, so its not much of a hassle... :P
03:35.10brokedcomputerAre those 921's poe?
03:35.14lorsungcuyes
03:35.27brokedcomputerCool, I will suggest them
03:35.34bdfostermight be discontinued... not sure
03:35.46lorsungcu504G is a good SPA phone
03:35.49lorsungcu~$100USD
03:35.57bdfosterw/ equiv newer model
03:36.29ChannelZYeah I thought the model numbers had been changed post-Linksys
03:36.37brokedcomputerOk, so back to the topic at hand,
03:37.39brokedcomputerShould we use Skinny or Sip?
03:37.46bdfostersip
03:37.49bdfosterNEXT!
03:37.56brokedcomputerAnd is skinny the same as sccp?
03:38.01lorsungcuno
03:38.01bdfosteryes
03:38.08bdfoster?
03:38.10lorsungcuskinny is when you place them under your tires
03:38.14lorsungcuand drive forward
03:38.16bdfosterhah
03:38.17brokedcomputerWhich would be preferable? SCCP or SIP
03:38.21brokedcomputerFor these phones
03:38.21bdfostersip
03:38.21ChannelZSIP
03:38.25lorsungcusip :p
03:38.26ChannelZwell
03:38.28lorsungcuyes
03:38.33bdfosteralways sip
03:38.38brokedcomputerOk, we are on a roll.
03:38.44lorsungcuno
03:38.51ChannelZI'm on a chair
03:39.00brokedcomputerWell too bad for you, my chair rolls.
03:39.10bdfosteri have rolls
03:39.25bdfosterjust not on my chair...
03:39.29ChannelZTMI
03:39.45bdfosterwhat? it would be a waste of good bread!
03:40.30brokedcomputer:P
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03:40.54bdfosterbrokedcomputer, next question
03:41.04lorsungcudamn bd you snappin
03:41.14bdfosterfo sho
03:42.28brokedcomputeranyone know how to load the sip software onto the phone? :P{
03:42.39lorsungcuyes
03:42.53brokedcomputerheh, can you redirect me to the instructions?
03:42.57ChannelZDo you know many curse words?
03:43.01lorsungcubroked
03:43.03lorsungcuseriously
03:43.06brokedcomputeryes, but I do not try to use them.
03:43.08lorsungcugoogle what you just asked
03:43.16brokedcomputerI did before I asked, :P
03:43.40bdfostermany tutorials out there
03:43.49bdfosterbut, yes, need to know a few curse words prior
03:43.51brokedcomputer:P Yeah I am reading one right now. :P
03:43.59bdfostergoogle can probably help with that as well
03:44.03bdfosteralso wikipedia
03:44.20lorsungcuyou need to be sure
03:44.24lorsungcuif it's an older firmware
03:44.32lorsungcuthat you are flashing in the proper order
03:44.42lorsungcuso long as you do that it will be easy.
03:44.49brokedcomputerP00308001000 and 03010001
03:44.59ChannelZIsn't it a matter of the phone needing to be an unlocked version to start with, or some other special permission/secret handshake you had to do to flash it first?
03:45.17lorsungcuno just have the right files in the tftp directory
03:45.28lorsungcuif he's familiar with flashing cisco routers, this will make sense
03:45.46brokedcomputerDoes asterisk have TFTP included or would I need a special package?
03:45.54lorsungcuyou need tftpd
03:45.57bdfosterdo it the linux way
03:46.09lorsungcusudo apt-get install tftp-server
03:46.11lorsungcui think?
03:46.14brokedcomputerNever flashed a cisco router, but I have done a lot of home routers, and special hardware along with standard and android phones.
03:46.17bdfosterthink so
03:46.29bdfosteryou're using debian?
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03:46.43bdfostermzb, the fuck are you doin here?
03:46.43brokedcomputerUbuntu, so yes>
03:46.44lorsungcuyeah hes got this on an ubuntu box...
03:47.03bdfostergotcha
03:47.32brokedcomputertftpd
03:47.35brokedcomputerthats the package
03:47.43mzbbdfoster: not a lot
03:47.44bdfosteryea same on debian
03:47.53bdfosterjust apt-cache'd it
03:48.00bdfostererr apt-cache searched
03:48.55brokedcomputerNow here is a stupid question that I would like answered, as I have used FTP to access a folder, where would the root folder for a TFTP server be?
03:49.24bdfostergoogle is your friend
03:49.40lorsungcuthis could seriously go on for a month
03:49.43bdfosterit's dependent on your specific package/os
03:49.44lorsungcujust like this
03:50.02ChannelZthat package probably is /srv/tftp
03:50.19lorsungcucheck /etc/xinetd.d/tftpd
03:51.37brokedcomputer... I just installed it, and now none of us know where the root folder is, I checked those two and the google result I loaded.
03:51.48lorsungcuand still nothing?
03:51.52brokedcomputerno
03:51.53lorsungcuyou are screwed/
03:51.54lorsungcu.
03:52.31lorsungcuit might be /etc/xinetd.d/tftp-server
03:52.35lorsungcui dont'
03:52.37lorsungcurecall
03:52.39brokedcomputerthere is no xine.d
03:52.43brokedcomputeror xine
03:52.55brokedcomputerThere may be now, one moment, I just used apt-get install xinetd tftpd tftp
03:53.22lorsungcuyeah there might be after you do that..
03:53.36brokedcomputerStill no TFTP folder though?
03:53.49lorsungcutry cd /tftpboot
03:53.54lorsungcudoes that get you anywhere
03:54.07brokedcomputerthats in root no?
03:54.08ChannelZOr try /etc/inetd.conf
03:54.14bdfosterlocate tftp
03:54.24lorsungcuupdatedb before locate
03:54.25ChannelZhave to update first
03:54.31bdfosterthat too
03:56.01brokedcomputerupdate?
03:56.09brokedcomputeras in Apt-get update
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03:56.15lorsungcusudo updatedb
03:56.22ChannelZ/etc/cron.daily/mlocate
03:57.14ChannelZDid you look if your system is using the old inetd?
03:57.27ChannelZps ax |grep inet
03:57.48ChannelZUnless that tftpd you installed is running as a daemon.. might try  ps ax |grep tftp
03:58.09lorsungcuthere's no reason he shouldn't be using freepbx; it'll install over ubuntu, even.
03:58.27bdfosterChannelZ, tftpDDDDDD
03:58.41bdfostertftp is the client
03:58.45ChannelZyeah no shit
03:58.52bdfosterlol
03:59.01ChannelZwildcards are fun
03:59.04brokedcomputerI installed TFTPD
03:59.07ChannelZIt will find both if it's called that.
03:59.27lorsungcubroked
03:59.34lorsungcugive me shell there
03:59.38lorsungcuand i
03:59.43lorsungcu'll make it work
03:59.49lorsungcuand you can paypal me whatever you're making
03:59.57bdfosterheheh
03:59.58lorsungcuassuming it's $120/hr
04:00.16bdfosteri wouldnt touch it for less than $500 at this stage
04:00.57brokedcomputerDoes ProFTPd work the same?
04:01.21lorsungcuit's config is a bit more complicated.
04:01.25lorsungcu-'
04:01.36lorsungcutftpd works fine.
04:01.51brokedcomputerBut we cannot find it, and Ihave used it before...
04:02.41lorsungcuyou dont need to find it
04:02.49ChannelZproftpd is a normal FTP server, not TFTP (unless there's a module or something that makes it do tftp too)
04:02.50lorsungcutype tcpdump port 69
04:03.01brokedcomputerI wanted to know where the root directory is so that I could drop the firmwares in there for the sip/.
04:03.12lorsungcuroot is almost always at /tftpboot
04:03.48brokedcomputerI do not see a directory named that.
04:03.55mzbpgrep is a nice one to remember, btw
04:04.28ChannelZYou never answered me - what does     ps ax |grep inet     show you
04:04.42mzbeg: pgrep inet
04:05.20brokedcomputerIt talks about inet, and shows nothing of TFTP
04:05.43ChannelZsighs
04:05.54ChannelZSo what inetd are you running?
04:06.02brokedcomputer<PROTECTED>
04:06.04ChannelZis it just inetd?  xinet?  hobaginetd?
04:06.36ChannelZok so the xinetd configs are *somewhere*
04:06.41brokedcomputerright
04:06.43bdfosterhey i just fax'd you
04:06.47bdfosterand this is crazy
04:06.48ChannelZso    locate   xinet
04:06.56bdfosterbut here's my number,
04:06.56lorsungcuzomg bd <3
04:06.59ChannelZI don't understand why that song is popular
04:07.00bdfosterso fax me maybe?
04:07.05*** part/#asterisk Bullmoose (~Bullmoose@71-33-18-80.bois.qwest.net)
04:07.22bdfosterhttp://i.imgur.com/dGpIJ.png
04:08.04lorsungcufuck i have to click it.
04:09.08ChannelZno you don't
04:09.10lorsungcuanyone know if i can send an array to swift() and have it read each variable in order?
04:09.12ChannelZ:)
04:09.16lorsungcui did :<
04:09.21lorsungcuand now im faxing it..
04:09.24brokedcomputerThis is the Xine folder, /etc/xinetd.d <- it has five files in it, chargen daytime discard echo and time
04:09.34lorsungculol
04:09.37bdfosteryea, i've started using that on fax tests...
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04:11.39ChannelZok do you have any tftp related looking filenames in /etc/init.d ?
04:11.43zopsiHas anyone ever done anything with an analog doorphone? I'm trying to have mine ring an extension when the button is pressed. Right now it is hooked up to an FXS card and is being sent to a custom context that answers it and calls the extension, but it doesn't even reach the custom context.
04:12.14ChannelZwhat doesn't reach the context
04:12.27brokedcomputerI woudl say no to the tftp question in init.d
04:12.49ChannelZThe channel is going somewhere, if it's not the right context, you've got the wrong channel
04:13.02ChannelZbrokedcomputer: and you're sure you installed tftpd and not just tftp?
04:13.15zopsiI'm sending all the channels just in case. I know it is crude, but I couldn't tell.
04:13.33zopsiI don't see anything pop up in the CLI about the doorphone.
04:13.40brokedcomputerthis is what I used the first time apt-get -y install tftpd
04:13.51brokedcomputerThis is what I used the second time apt-get -y install xinetd tftpd tftp
04:14.11ChannelZdo you have /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
04:14.16brokedcomputerYes
04:14.45ChannelZso apparently it just didn't configure it's self to actually do anything.  Lovely.
04:14.49mzbjust install tftpd-hpa and be done with it
04:15.27brokedcomputerCould I tell it to configure iteself?
04:15.33brokedcomputeror configure it?
04:15.37lorsungcu+1 mzb
04:15.40ChannelZ"The server is normally started by inetd(8)."
04:15.52ChannelZexplains that
04:16.29brokedcomputerNo the server is started by my finger, the process is started by the server *most of the time*
04:17.25brokedcomputerIt really was simpler when I was just doing AsteriskNOW, though then I couldnt use Ubuntu and do Samba and this would be a waste of a computer.
04:17.39ChannelZwhy not.. just install what you want on it
04:17.41brokedcomputeras its a quad core Xeon
04:17.51lorsungcuyou dont need ubuntu or samba
04:17.53brokedcomputerIts for the church they need the samba server
04:17.55lorsungcuor a quad core xeon
04:17.59brokedcomputer...
04:18.03lorsungcuyou need a p3
04:18.10lorsungcu~700mhz
04:18.14brokedcomputerI have a P4 but thats my apache server.
04:18.14brokedcomputer:P
04:18.19ChannelZI mean AsteriskNOW isn't magic, it's just another distro with some crap pre-installed
04:18.23bdfostera server is a server is a server
04:18.31brokedcomputerI agree, but its well setup.
04:18.32brokedcomputer:P
04:18.34ChannelZput whatever you want on it
04:18.36bdfosteris a server
04:19.53mzbbut only if it's running Debian, bdfoster ;)
04:20.02lorsungcumzb no
04:20.05bdfostercorrect
04:20.08lorsungcuubuntu or its a steaming pile
04:20.08mzbhaha
04:20.13bdfoster...
04:20.18lorsungcugod.
04:20.18mzb*sigh*
04:20.25bdfosterthere's a reason why i don't use ubuntu server...
04:20.31brokedcomputerWell, I have the GUI for Asterisk, I have the phones, we're trying to get the firmware onto the phone using TFTP, for some reason TFPT is not configured, how do we configure it?
04:20.36ChannelZdistros are distros so why should it be, you and I should get along to awfully
04:20.58ChannelZcopy one of the xinetd configs and make your own to launch it, should be self explanatory
04:21.21mzbbrokedcomputer: uninstall tftpd and install tftpd-hpa
04:21.21bdfosternot all distros are made correctly
04:21.24ChannelZthe idea is to run /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /srv/tftp   or similar
04:21.41zopsihow can I troubleshoot this doorphone connected through FXS? any help would be greatly appreciated.
04:21.43brokedcomputerWhat is the HPA part?
04:21.53ChannelZon port 69 udp
04:22.03lorsungcuudp?
04:22.04mzbyou're the man with the finger(s) !
04:22.22ChannelZit's a protocol
04:22.36brokedcomputerok its installed and running.
04:22.44ChannelZpraise jesus!
04:22.50mzb*cackle*
04:23.08lorsungcurofl
04:23.24brokedcomputerSo where is its root folder then?
04:24.07ChannelZshoves mzb
04:24.17mzbhuh?
04:24.35ChannelZtftp-hba - it was your idea
04:24.42mzbcat /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
04:25.20lorsungcu-bash: cat: command not found
04:25.28mzbhahahahaha
04:25.32ChannelZtry dog
04:25.36brokedcomputerOk we have the folder now.
04:25.47brokedcomputerNow I have to read through this, http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_tech_note09186a0080094584.shtml
04:25.54bdfostergood luck
04:25.56lorsungcuomfg wat r u gon do.
04:25.59bdfosterthe world needs you.
04:26.19lorsungcuvoip-info.org
04:26.27lorsungcuactually has a 100% perfect walkthrough
04:26.32lorsungcuto do exactly what you are doing
04:26.51lorsungcuwith samples, change notes, everything.
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04:34.44zopsihmm
04:36.02lorsungcuzopsi
04:36.04lorsungcupm
04:43.15brokedcomputerAnyone know why I can't use the edit button on the 7940 after I unlock the panel with **#
04:44.09lorsungcuwhat option are you selecting, broked?
04:44.29lorsungcuonly some will let you change them, and others require you to set other options
04:44.43lorsungcuim guiessing you're looking at the provisioning server one?
04:44.59lorsungcuyou need to enable the secondary server, near the bottom of the options iirc
04:45.39brokedcomputerI was trying to set the TFTP server,
04:45.53lorsungcuyeah
04:45.56lorsungcuscroll down
04:46.00lorsungcuenable the secondary one
04:46.04lorsungcuor whatever its called, then go up
04:46.16lorsungcuand set it
04:47.21brokedcomputerstill says key not active when I try to edit, even when I unlock it again...
04:47.26brokedcomputerit keeps re locking
04:47.41tm1000Looks like I'm missing out on some good old provisioning talk
04:48.35lorsungcui dont have one handy, broked
04:48.49brokedcomputerNever mind, I was doing it wrong, thanks you got it.
04:50.31brokedcomputerWhere would the logs be for tftpd-hpa?
04:50.49lorsungcuif there were any, they would be in /var/log/
04:50.56lorsungcuunless you set them to go elsewhere.
04:51.04lorsungcuyou can easily see what's going on
04:51.10lorsungcuby using tcpdump port 69
04:51.21brokedcomputerjust type that into my ssh?
04:52.02lorsungcuyes, type it into your ssh.
04:52.16brokedcomputerhahaha it says there was no suitable device found?
04:53.55brokedcomputerAnd the phone is just saying open (my internal IP range)
04:55.00brokedcomputerSorry, it did change
04:55.09brokedcomputerIt was asking for an XML but I missed it
04:58.18brokedcomputerAhhh I see, I see
05:01.04brokedcomputerI think it should start now, waiting
05:01.26lorsungcuyou'll do a lot of that.
05:01.33brokedcomputerhahahaha yeah I see that
05:03.11bdfosterlolololololol
05:03.45lorsungcueasy bro
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05:15.00brokedcomputerAnyone know what this SEP000D28C... file is?
05:15.50lorsungcuyes
05:15.58lorsungcuits the non-sip config file
05:16.06brokedcomputer... dang it,
05:16.11lorsungcuyou should be able to use it to point to the proper file
05:16.21brokedcomputerWhats its full name?
05:16.23lorsungcucopy your SIP<macaddress> file
05:16.29lorsungcuand rename it SEP<macaddress>
05:17.03brokedcomputerOH its the mac hahahaha, I should have seen that.
05:18.16brokedcomputerOk, I used the SEP file name, but I seem to have configured it wrong?
05:18.52brokedcomputerhttp://pastebin.com/UKkMAmQA
05:19.17brokedcomputerSorry my DCC is a little broken
05:19.24brokedcomputerwe could do msg
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07:59.23zopsianyone experience an issue with an FXO card where you hear a beep like recording a message?
07:59.36ChannelZcall waiting?
08:00.28zopsiit happens when I dial out
08:01.31ChannelZIn the middle of the call at random, or...
08:03.19zopsiit only happens sometimes when I dial out and it will happen immediately
08:03.41v0lZybig brother is recording you :D
08:03.56zopsiyeah it is odd.
08:04.09v0lZyIn soviet russia, telephones record you!
08:04.11v0lZy.d
08:04.12v0lZy.d
08:04.15v0lZy:D
08:04.16zopsihah
08:04.18v0lZykidding, no idea.
08:04.23v0lZyhappens to anywhere u dial to?
08:04.34zopsiYes, but only 1/3 of the time.
08:04.58zopsiI'll hear the beep and nothing else. I had the wisdom to press pound once and it starting blabbing off message options.
08:05.22ChannelZmaybe you should look at the console and what your dialplan is doing
08:05.41v0lZySounds like your dialplan might be in the way
08:05.56ChannelZwhose message options?  From Asterisk?  Maybe your telco voicemail?
08:05.57v0lZyhave u configured your outgoing provider properly etc?
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08:06.30zopsisounds like my Telco
08:08.03zopsicould very well be my telco voicemail. I've never used telco voicemail though.
08:08.11zopsiwhy would it go to that?
08:08.21ChannelZSounds like something with them then... do they have some special way to access voicemail, like doing a flash on your phone or something?  (trying to think of why, short of actually dialing the VM number, your FXO card could be triggering them to do something..)
08:09.29ChannelZIs this in a home or office setting?  Are other people making calls?  Perhaps your lines aren't clearing properly and you're essentially picking up a call placed by someone else they hung up on
08:09.39ChannelZThere's a dozen different things it could be but hard to diagnose from here
08:10.03v0lZymaybe your outgoing dialing pattern
08:10.41zopsiThis is a home setting. No one else is making calls.
08:11.02ChannelZWhat kind of card is it
08:11.45zopsiDigium AEX410E
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08:13.39zopsiOkay. I have confirmed it dialed my telco voicemail
08:14.02ChannelZSo then it's a matter of figuring out why/how it's calling it
08:14.07angryuserHello i have a dual span E1 card, one port is in NT mode another one in TE, i would like to bridge them to test the calls, where can i find the pinouts for the cable ?
08:14.40ChannelZStart with the stupid and turn on some verbose, look at your console and see what it is being dialed
08:15.04ectospasmangryuser: look up T1/E1 crossover cable pinouts.
08:15.27ectospasmzopsi: have you registered your Digium AEX410?
08:15.42ectospasm...as in product registration.
08:15.46zopsiyes
08:17.06ectospasmThen you're eligible for Digium technical support.  Call us at +1.256.428.6161, or use Skype:  digiumsupport
08:17.28v0lZy... nasty :D
08:18.39ectospasmnasty?
08:19.00ChannelZhe's not a fan of digium support
08:19.43ChannelZzopsi: what country are you in?
08:19.55zopsithe US
08:20.08ChannelZUsing kewlstart?
08:20.11ectospasmthen call 1.877.344.4861
08:20.32zopsiyes
08:20.39ChannelZWhat telco?
08:20.46zopsiAT&T
08:22.41ChannelZdoes it happen/not happen when you're trying to call the same phone number?
08:23.23zopsiyes it happens when I dial the same number
08:23.56ChannelZalways?
08:24.40zopsino it only happens 1/3 of the time. It is extremely odd. I haven't found any differences in what I see in the CLI.
08:25.08ectospasmdo you have pauses ("w's") in your outbound dial string?
08:26.05ectospasmmy guess is for the failed calls, Asterisk is sending digits down the line before AT&T is ready to receive them, i.e., before AT&T provides a dial tone.
08:26.38zopsimakes sense
08:26.38ChannelZSome quick searches seem to say that you have to call a 888 number to access your VM, so unless there is some other quick-dial code or means to call into your VM that they are somehow mistaking you as dialing, it could just be your line is borked on their end
08:27.13ChannelZyeah the pre-dialtone might be doing something odd
08:27.30zopsialright I will add some pauses
08:27.54ChannelZstick a 'w' in before the number dialed and see.  I have that problem though it just results in failed calls :)
08:28.32ChannelZYou could record some attempts with dahdi_monitor and basically hear what's going on to figure out if that's what it is and how long it's necessary to wait
08:28.36ectospasmyeah, that it sounds like something is recording a message is indeed odd.
08:29.00ectospasmI usually insert of a wait of three seconds, then scale it back
08:30.35ChannelZI wonder if it's coincidentally your "mailbox number"...  The first digit or two of what you're _trying_ to dial are disappearing before the dialtone and then AT&T gets an incomplete number and presumes to do something else with it.
08:31.30zopsiyeah quite odd, but it seems the wait fixed it.
08:31.41ChannelZtheir little voicemail help says to dial 1-888-288-8893 or "dial your mailbox number"
08:31.58zopsii believe dialing my number also works
08:32.49ChannelZsounds like that's what it was
08:33.09ChannelZyou probably have some interesting outgoing voicemail message or something now :)  partially cursing...
08:33.57ChannelZ"what the fuuu.. *beeeep*"
08:33.57zopsimost definitely
08:34.19zopsithanks for all the help guys
08:34.26ChannelZbed time
08:34.57zopsiheh ... yeah
08:35.04zopsitime to buy a new doorphone for me :)
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09:53.41ruben23hi guys
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10:45.49ruben23hi guys
10:45.54v0lZyhi
10:46.28ruben23v0lZy:you using asterisk.?
10:51.37v0lZyaskoziapbx
10:51.40v0lZyits based on asterisk
10:51.42v0lZyyeah.
10:51.47v0lZynot an expert by lon gshot
10:51.54v0lZybut ill try to help if i can
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11:05.38v0lZyso ruben, anything i can help u with?
11:10.18ruben23<PROTECTED>
11:10.56ectospasmuse AsteriskSCF
11:11.36v0lZyruben23: Cant help you there. As long as it has a good and secure connection
11:11.41v0lZyI dont beleive in cloud
11:11.47v0lZyso... i dont think im the person to ask
11:11.58ruben23<PROTECTED>
11:12.14ruben23v0lZy:its ok, i understand
11:12.18ectospasmhttps://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/TOP/Asterisk+SCF+Home
11:12.53ectospasmstill not ready for primetime, afaict
11:14.33ruben23v0lZy:askoziapbx is free..? what about the paid version whast teh differences..?
11:15.03v0lZyruben23: number of concurrent calls
11:15.10v0lZyit has a free trial
11:15.17v0lZywhich allows you 2 concurrent calls i think
11:15.25v0lZyif u want more than that, you pay a small fee
11:15.35v0lZyabout 80 eur
11:15.53v0lZyits a good system, but it has a lot of drawbacks
11:16.02v0lZywe use it here at our company
11:16.11v0lZyand so far, i've managed to do everything i wanted with it
11:16.28v0lZybut its a bit hard to understand the configuration files sometimes because they are generated by the gui
11:16.42v0lZywhen u want to fine tune those settings, you can
11:16.54v0lZygui even provides a way to edit config files by hand
11:17.25ectospasmthat also sounds like a way to break the GUI, if you're not careful
11:17.29v0lZybut things get a bit more complicated then because GUI is doing one thing and writting to the config files by hand is another thing ..
11:17.46ruben23oh ok
11:17.49v0lZyectospasm: it doesnt break the gui
11:17.57v0lZythe gui has 2 ways of operation
11:18.02v0lZya) Append to config file
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11:18.15v0lZyb) Overwrite original config with whatever u want
11:18.20Roeltruben23, i'm hosting a small asterisk sever in the cloud, without problems. make sure your vps hoster has a system that's fast enough, otherwise you'll get latency, but otherwise it seems fine..
11:18.37v0lZythe problem is when you use overwrite
11:18.43v0lZyand then go back to gui
11:18.53v0lZyand then make a change u want to keep with the gui
11:19.08v0lZyand then have to merge the changes into the file you are overwriting the gui with
11:19.16v0lZyits a bit tricky because of that
11:19.29v0lZybut if u just want something that magically works ruben23 , askozia is a good thing
11:19.32v0lZyi absolutely love it
11:19.37v0lZyits stable, it doesnt act weird or anything
11:19.48v0lZyIt suits my needs just fine
11:19.51v0lZybut im a top-down learner
11:20.10v0lZyso i dont mind taking things apart to understand them...
11:20.27v0lZyi suggest u definitely try the free version out
11:20.35v0lZyif for no other reason, its really easy to setup
11:24.59dax_rocCan anyone recomend sim - bank for 12 to 32 sims compatable with asteriskNow ?
11:26.00ruben23Roelt: how you able to install dahdi..whihc is the common issue of linux source install not right on the cloud version
11:26.09WIMPyI think the 2N Stargate is the only one in that area. Or you build something yourself.
11:26.29WIMPyDoes someone still have the link to that pic full of USB sticks?
11:26.48v0lZyhi WIMPy
11:29.52Roeltruben23, the vps service i use provides a service where you can boot your own kernel
11:30.59rolandowRoelt: where are you hosting ?
11:31.14Roeltrolandow, http://cloudvps.com/
11:31.39rolandowRoelt: did you build your own kernel?
11:31.53Roeltno. :)
11:32.08rolandowRoelt: where are they physically hosted?? don't you need something in NL ?
11:32.36Roeltrolandow, cloudvps is hosted in .nl .. amsterdam or rotterdam iirc
11:32.42rolandowok
11:33.22Roeltah, only amsterdam.. Equinix, EU Networks or Global Switch..
11:33.28v0lZydown with the cloud!
11:33.32v0lZy.d
11:33.53rolandowRoelt: server4you is cheaper with it's dedicated server.. they're hosted in germany ..
11:34.29rolandownot sure when you will notice the difference .. i mean .. 7ms or 22 ms .. won't matter that much probably
11:35.04Roeltrolandow, do they provide swapover to a other machine within minutes if your server fails?
11:35.18rolandowah .. no .. i see what you mean ..
11:35.27rolandowno so i shouldn't be comparing cloud with dedicated.. you're right :)
11:36.00Roeltwell, dedicated can to that, but you have to install it yourself and it's more expencive for a single or two servers..
11:36.26rolandowyep ..
11:37.05rolandowusually when i see cloud or vps, it's virtualised servers, that's how i look at it .. but of course if it has automatic failover that's valuable too
11:37.43v0lZywell dedicated server could be a problem...
11:37.51v0lZyespecially if your hardware fails
11:38.11v0lZyas for vps...thats not an issue
11:38.37rolandowyep
11:38.45v0lZyid just go with a provider that gives you a virtual private server and has the infrastructure to do live migrations et failovers etc
11:38.49Roeltuntil a storage node crashed and there is no backup, but that hasn't happen to me localy..
11:39.00v0lZythis stuff runs on storage arrays in raids etc
11:39.06Roeltcrashes*, hapily
11:39.10v0lZyso chances of it failing completely are quite small
11:39.11rolandowthose storage nodes should be redundant as well, shouldn't they?
11:39.36v0lZywell, yeah, if u are with a solid provider
11:39.56Roeltthey should be, but you always can have issues with software that should work, and doesn't when the shit hits the fan.. :)
11:40.14v0lZyif you are with somone whos just got an extra machine and a nice page... then you're no better of then a dedicated server.. .except that you have other users that will be calling in for support when his main machine goes down and takes all the virtual ones with it ;:D
11:40.38v0lZyi think its more important if its full virtualization or not
11:40.51rolandowyes.. and you share the hardware with others as well :)
11:40.52v0lZyif u get some containers that can only run on the same kernel etc etc
11:41.01v0lZyjust go for something that gives u the ability to install whatever u want into it
11:41.06v0lZybut its essentially virtualized
11:41.17v0lZywell asterisk doesnt need much hardware, does it?
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11:42.10Roeltall depends on the call volume, but it runs hapily on my vps
11:42.33rolandowfrom what i read it does need some speed.. so no slow i/o
11:42.55rolandowi read somewhere that dedicated was recommended.. but i don't have any experience with that myself
11:46.27v0lZywell the boxes they build here
11:46.31v0lZyand can handle up to 500 concurrent calls
11:46.39v0lZyare some arm architecture stuff..
11:46.41v0lZyi guess
11:46.46v0lZynothing fancy
11:47.38rolandowok .. nothing to worry about then i suppose :)
11:48.27v0lZywell
11:48.35v0lZya fast switch seems to be a good idea
11:48.38v0lZyand also good phones!
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11:48.52v0lZymy drayteks had a lot of lag....
11:49.02rolandowdratek switches?
11:49.03v0lZyupdated firmware fixed that i think
11:49.07v0lZydraytek phoens.
11:49.08rolandow+y
11:49.17rolandowok didn't know they also manufacture phones
11:49.26v0lZyjust one phone in their lineup
11:49.30v0lZydraytek vigorphone 350
11:49.39v0lZyits nothing fancy
11:49.45v0lZyits an easy basic phone
11:50.00v0lZydownstairs i have an aastra
11:50.04v0lZythat one is pretty awesome
11:50.24rolandowok .. i don't like the design of aastra
11:50.35rolandowbut well .. in the end it's about the quality and functions i suppose :)
11:51.19rolandowwe have tiptel 280 (or yealkink t20p, it's the same)
11:51.27rolandowand some siemens gigaset dect phones
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12:02.37v0lZyaastra has a lot of variables
12:02.58v0lZya bit unintutivie as a phone
12:03.04v0lZy(draytek is very intuitive btw)
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12:05.01rolandowhm.. draytek is rather expensive here .. ?
12:05.10rolandowcisco, yealink, tiptel would be much cheaper
12:05.39rolandoweven aastra :)
12:07.53Roeltrolandow, no, cloudvps only has a dutch datacenter
12:08.09rolandowyou mean ruben23
12:08.16Roeltohw, sory
12:08.21Roeltruben23, no, cloudvps only has a dutch datacenter :)
12:08.22rolandow:)
12:08.36Roeltstill not fully awake...
12:09.28rolandownp
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12:11.10v0lZydraytek expensive?
12:11.12v0lZy130 euro here.
12:11.22v0lZyaastra is in the 200s
12:11.26v0lZyyealinks i havent tried
12:11.31rolandowinc or ex vat?
12:12.00rolandowit's 159 ex vat here
12:12.09v0lZy130 including vat
12:12.27v0lZyi think
12:12.29v0lZylet me check
12:12.34rolandowcan't really compare aastra because the models displayed have less accounts
12:12.56rolandowbut cisco with 12 sip accounts is only 117 euro
12:13.08rolandowtiptel even 109
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12:13.12rolandowso draytek is expensive :)
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12:13.22v0lZyah sorry
12:13.28v0lZy136 eur + vat
12:13.34v0lZyvat is 22% here
12:13.58v0lZywell what i like about draytek is it has 16 BLF buttons :D
12:14.01rolandowok .. that's why i compare ex vat :)
12:14.45rolandowtiptel 286 too, but that's only 116,81 ex vat :)
12:15.02rolandowin what country are you ?
12:15.30v0lZyslovenia
12:15.36rolandowok
12:15.54rolandowis in the netherlands
12:15.55v0lZytiptel 286.. looks like yealink?
12:16.04rolandowyes.. it's yealink with different firmware
12:16.17rolandowprobably just to support the dutch language
12:16.18v0lZyonly has 10 buttons though
12:16.22v0lZyand u cant see a name on them either
12:16.29rolandowno.. the ones next to the display are BLF's as well
12:17.16v0lZymy drayteks: http://www.tkr.de/telefon/bilder-telefon/VigorPhone350-468.jpg
12:17.17Dar1usis there a make target I can use that will just build the code Im working on?
12:17.26v0lZyahok
12:17.38Dar1usmy app isn't very big so I spend most of the compile time waiting for it to generate input for menuselect..
12:17.47rolandowyes i've googled your draytek .. :)
12:18.08dax_rocWIMPy: Have you seen / used http://www.hybertone.com/en/products.asp?Id=75&FId=75
12:18.11WIMPyDar1us: all
12:18.28v0lZyand the aastra i have: http://blog.mybarachois.com/b1/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/aastra57i.jpg
12:18.43v0lZyaastra i like because it is really customizable...
12:18.55v0lZybut its not very intuitive compared to the draytek
12:19.00WIMPydax_roc: No. Looks funny.
12:19.04v0lZyon the other hand, draytek doesnt even have user privilege separation or anything
12:19.09v0lZyjust 1 password for everything
12:19.11v0lZysucks
12:19.23v0lZyeither give users no accesss or full access
12:19.26dax_rocWIMPy: as in suspect ?
12:19.32v0lZybut hopefully they change that with firmware later on
12:19.33rolandowok that aastra looks nice :)
12:19.48WIMPydax_roc: No, just the optics.
12:19.51Dar1usWIMPy: thanks, still seems like a big hammer for a small nut but it's better :)
12:19.59v0lZyrolandow: in all ways... its better than the draytek for sure... sound quality etc
12:20.02v0lZybut .. not intuitive at all
12:20.16v0lZylast calls
12:20.20v0lZyor missed calls display is really stupid
12:20.34rolandowok .. too bad .. :(
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12:20.44v0lZyi mean its stupid in a sense that it onyl shows 1
12:20.45v0lZyat a time
12:20.53v0lZyso u have to press the downward button a lot :D
12:20.57v0lZybut in tis defence
12:21.03v0lZyall those buttons around the screen are programmable
12:21.07v0lZyu can have it show whatever..
12:21.28rolandowthat's cool
12:21.28WIMPydax_roc: But if I can afford it, I'd certainly prefer an ISDN GW from the functionality. But SIP ist usually a lot cheaper.
12:21.46ruben23so any cloudvps site fro US..?
12:21.46ruben23any suggestion..good sompnay
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12:22.07v0lZyfrom US.. dont know, sorry
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12:23.24Dar1usWIMPy: hmm actually make all still does menuselect when I touch the source file :(
12:24.33WIMPyDar1us: Yes, makefiles are a black art.
12:26.11Dar1usWIMPy: yeah I know, I was hoping... :)
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12:44.00Jinxed-I know this isn't strictly asterisk, but does anyone know how old of a version trixbox 2.6.2.2 is?
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12:49.35pyther24ruben23: not cloud, but I've had good luck with linode
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12:51.27pyther24Linode, LLC :P
12:51.32pyther24http://www.linode.com/
12:52.47NivexLinode is cloudy with a 100% chance of awesome. http://linodeforecast.com/
12:57.23ruben23whats teh difference between linode and cloud..?
13:00.28Nivexlinode is a specific entity. cloud is a meaningless marketing term.
13:17.26dax_rocCan I replace the incomming ring tone a customer hears (before pickup)
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13:40.26ruben23Nivex:..? how about issue on install teh source kernel fro dahdi installtion.? how to resolve this..?
13:42.49ruben23Nivex: you there..?
13:43.25Kattystretches
13:43.37Kattymorning
13:44.01Nivexruben23: sorry, at work. You mean installing the DAHDI module on a Linode?
13:44.02rolandowafternoon
13:44.14Kattywhat's the word
13:44.17ruben23<PROTECTED>
13:44.28rolandowwhat word
13:44.38Kattyit's an expression
13:45.22Nivexruben23: As far as I know, they use a stock kernel tree. You can find the config used for the running kernel in /proc/config.gz
13:46.00Nivexruben23: beyond that, I'm at a loss since I've never built a kernel module on mine. They have a community support channel on OFTC/#linode where you might be able to get some help. I know some of the people there have done it.
13:46.06rolandowwhat's in a name .. i know that one :)
13:46.13Nivexword up?
13:46.18dax_rocCan you change the standard incoming ringtone to a recorded message?
13:46.45rolandowdax_roc: if you install that recorded message to your phone you could
13:46.47rolandowdepending on the phone
13:47.07rolandowbut i don't think you can "push" a ringtone from the server to a phone, and make it play that particular ringtone.
13:47.31dax_rocrolandow: sorry, the ringing tone that every one hears
13:48.03rolandowdax_roc: the one on the phone, when it's being called?
13:48.04ruben23<PROTECTED>
13:48.10ruben23no*
13:48.12rolandowdax_roc: or the tone you hear when you're calling?
13:48.21dax_rocrolandow: no, ^
13:48.49dax_roc* the tone you hear when you call in
13:49.05rolandowi think that tone is configured client-side
13:50.09rolandowi'm not sure what you want to use it for
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13:50.46rolandowmaybe you could let * answer the call, and then * calls something with RetryDial .. you could play a message then while it's dialing.
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13:51.29Kattyhi han.
13:51.33dax_rocI can't answer, I need to play an ivr during the inbound ring
13:53.00rolandowso you need to be able to catch response as well
13:53.09rolandowinstead of just playing a msg?
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13:54.02Kattycall file.
13:54.14filering ring, ring ring
13:54.20Kattypats file
13:55.20n3hxsCall file? for smoothing rough edges?
13:55.49rolandowor breaking out of jail?
13:56.07n3hxsAhh, a Jail Break file.
13:57.04Kattyfile isn't the person i'd call if i needed to break out of jail.
13:57.08rolandowwhatever you want to Call it
13:57.11Kattyi'd call drmessano for that.
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13:57.20Kattyi'd call file if i was getting ready to take over the world.
13:57.42rolandowwhat would you want with the world?
13:57.55Kattyexactly why i haven't taken over it yet.
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13:58.15KattyInvader: Zim.
13:58.18rolandowdon't we have a few gods or something for that?
13:58.25rolandowlet them keep it
13:58.33Kattyi hear the flying spaghetti monster might take over the world
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13:58.40Kattyspaghetti for all
13:58.53rolandowok.. that could be an improvement
13:59.13rolandowjust spaghetti, or all the italian stuff?
13:59.27n3hxswonders if he is Italian...
13:59.40n3hxshe=Spaghetti Monster.
13:59.41rolandowsorry .. italian food i ment
13:59.48Kattyn3hxs: if you'r enot you can be an honorary italian
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14:02.06Kattyhttp://www.venganza.org/about/ <- i don't see anything about him being italian.
14:02.17rolandowyou can be anything you want to be .. just turn yourself into anything you think that you could ever be
14:03.24NivexYou can do anything at zombo.com
14:04.23Kattyi think it's too early for this hehe
14:04.30anonymouz666haha
14:05.20dax_rocSo you can replace the incomming call tone ( ring ring ) ?
14:05.31Kattysure
14:05.39Kattywhy don't you make it the plop plop fizz fizz song
14:06.30dax_rocHomer: Computers can do that!
14:06.43rolandowis that song free of rights?
14:07.01dax_rocit is for education
14:08.34Kattyhmm
14:08.48Kattyall my tickets are waiting on someone or something.
14:08.50Kattyshould i knit?
14:09.08rolandowyes you should
14:10.01Kattygot 40 rows left on my project
14:10.08Jinxed-Is there a feature list for asterisk somewhere? I'm looking to see if asterisk can support things such as MLPP, Mobility Extension, Hotline, and any sort of decentralized system
14:10.35Kattyhttp://www.asterisk.org/support/features
14:11.09Kattyinfobot: features?
14:11.09infobotOh, i feel so bloated... *burp*
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14:16.28rolandowhow long does it take you to finish one row?
14:16.28Kattydear caffeine, work faster.
14:16.37Kattyif it's 2 colors, about 12 minutes
14:16.47Kattybut this is 3 color...so i'd guess about 15 to 20
14:17.00rolandow800 mins
14:17.28Kattynah
14:17.33Kattynot all the rows are 3 color
14:17.45Kattyi'd guess more like 9 hours
14:18.15rolandowok .. so let's hope all those tickets remain the same status
14:18.22rolandowthen you'll be done tomorrow
14:18.32Katty>.<
14:18.38Kattythere is no way i can knit for9 hours straight
14:18.41Kattymy hands would die
14:18.44rolandow:)
14:19.06Kattybut i could swing about 3 hours
14:19.23rolandowso you work at home i suppose?
14:19.31Kattynope
14:19.38rolandowyou take your knitting to the office?
14:19.46Kattyyes.
14:20.07rolandowok .. you can paid by the ticket ? :)
14:20.16Kattyi'm salary
14:20.40Kattyi are also responsibuhl adult and don't knit when i have work to do ;)
14:20.49Kattywhich may make all the difference
14:20.51Kobazastrikatty
14:20.55Kattyhi Kobaz
14:20.59Kobazyello
14:21.04Kattyhowre you dear
14:21.08rolandowi see
14:21.08Kobazgood good
14:21.13Kattywoot!
14:21.24Kobazapparently i was iron deficient for like a month
14:21.37Kattyoh that's not fun. i was iron deficient for a few years.
14:21.39Kobazhad zero energy almost all the time... wake up and be a zombie all day
14:21.42Kattywere you sleepy? and cold?
14:21.57Kattydid they prescribe you iron pills and OJ?
14:21.59Kobaznot all that cold but just about to fall asleep all day long
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14:22.05Kobaz"they"
14:22.10Kobazaka "dr me"
14:22.10Kattynods
14:22.25Kobazfigured it out myself, the doctor didnt want to do any tests
14:22.36Kattystupid doctors. it's just a little blood test.
14:22.49Kobaza $300 dollar blood test apparently
14:22.56Kobazto do a full physical
14:23.05Kattybut they can run a single test ^_-
14:23.13Kobazyeah but what do you test for
14:23.33Kobazyou need to throw in the whole normal batch because there's lots of stuff that could be out of wack
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14:24.10Kattythey also just tested my levels of hemoglobin
14:24.15Kattyerr always
14:24.34Kobazwell i didn't even know were to start looking
14:24.40Kattywhich if i understand it right....they're proteins of some sort
14:24.49Kobazbut i had some interesting symptoms which led me to finding the issue
14:24.53Kattywell that's ok. iron deficiency is easy to treat.
14:25.04Kattyeat your spinaches and broccolis
14:25.08Kobazheh yeah
14:25.14Kattyand take iron pills with OJ
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14:25.20Kattycause iron is difficult to absorb withotu vitamin c
14:25.34Kobazi loaded up on iron for two days with a multivitamin in the morning and then iron at night
14:25.50Kobazand then i'll just do a multi for a while and see how it goes
14:25.52Kattywith OJ?
14:25.56Kobazwater
14:26.04jpsharptoo much iron will plug you up, though.
14:26.06Kobazi'm not much of a juice person these days, but i do like oranges
14:26.06Kattywell eat an orange or something
14:26.25Kobazjpsharp: i did some reading, you need quite a bit to overdose
14:26.36Kattyjpsharp: an anemia can cause heart problems, chest pains...
14:26.37Jinxed-Katty: thanks for the link, it seems like asterisk can do most of those with the exception of maybe MLPP and I haven't evaluated what type of mobility is possible yet
14:26.43Kobazlike some people have been prescribed like 65mg three times a day
14:27.00Kobazi was taking a multivitamin which had like 15mg in the morning, and then a 27mg at night
14:27.01Kattyi think it far outweighs the being Plugged Up
14:27.06Kobazand i only did that two days
14:27.09Kobazso i think i'm good
14:27.10Kattyif you're that concerned, just eat lots of fiber.
14:27.12Kattynomnom
14:27.15Kobazhehe
14:27.31Kattyburritos to the rescue!
14:28.00Kobazi was barely coding or doing anything for most of july
14:28.01jpsharpMy wife get anemic and gets those symptoms when she's low.
14:28.05KattyKobaz: it'll take a bit longer for your hemoglobin levels to get back to normal
14:28.23Kattyjpsharp: stuff her full of cheesy broccoli!
14:28.28KobazKatty: yeah but the multivitamin has iron in it, so i don't think i need the extra plain iron supplement every day
14:28.30Kattymm iron with cheese sauce
14:28.58KattyKobaz: there's also the possiblity that there's something else in that multivitamin too
14:29.03Kobazyeah possibly
14:29.08jpsharpShe'd rather eat dog poo than broccoli.
14:29.09Kobazbut i did have some interesting symptoms
14:29.32Kattyjpsharp: spinach quiche!
14:29.48jpsharpNow that does sound good.
14:29.48Kobazpink poo
14:30.06Kattyartichokes are high too...you can pour cheese all over that.
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14:30.18Kobazi put cheese on everything
14:30.21Kattymhmm
14:30.34asteriskATmarmuDKobaz: good for you! :D
14:30.49KattyKobaz: a lot of people are chronically deficient these days
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14:30.54Kobazyeah i would imagine
14:31.01KattyKobaz: all the usual stuff people eat have nothing in them
14:31.02Kobazthe american monodiet is pretty unhealthy
14:31.02acidfooanyone is running a cisco 7911 with user local in french ? i'd be curious to see the .xml conf file, thank you
14:31.06Kattyother than preservatives. lots of preservatives.
14:31.18Kattyand additives, food coloring, and corn syrups!
14:31.25Kobazyum
14:31.35dax_rocKatty: This can only be done for SIP right ? IAX is from the provider
14:31.54Kattydax_roc: eh?
14:32.12dax_rocThe incomming ring file
14:32.17Kattyfor...?
14:32.19Kattythe phone?
14:32.22Kobazkatty is involved in serious nutrition discussion right now
14:32.30Kobazyou'll need to fill her in on the details
14:32.35Kattyyes. and my memory is about as good as a goldfish.
14:33.34dax_rocSorry, I'm wanting to change the incomming ring progress for a list of numbers.
14:33.41n3hxsWet and sloppy?
14:33.47Kattyincoming...ring...progress?
14:33.55Kobazmore details
14:34.09Kobaznone of us know what you're talking about
14:34.18rolandowa goldfish would beat me with remembering stuff
14:34.22Kattyyou can Answer() any call and Playback(afile) or Background(afile) if there needs to be interaction with an IVR.
14:34.23rolandowbut i learnt to live with it
14:35.03dax_rocI can't answer the call (to expensive) can I replace the ring ring the caller heres with a custome one ?
14:35.09Kattyrolandow: REMEMBER SAMMY
14:35.22rolandowsammy?
14:35.30Kattyrolandow: the movie is called mimento
14:35.40Kattyrolandow: memento
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14:36.07rolandowhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/ this one?
14:36.08Kattydax_roc: i think that's controlled by the telco then
14:36.23Kattyrolandow: yes, that one.
14:36.31Kattyrolandow: his memory is awful. he writes himself notes.
14:36.34rolandowok ..
14:36.41dax_rocNo, I think it's handled by the sip recieving side and IAX the provider ( out of controll )  ?
14:36.43rolandowi do that in my phone
14:36.53rolandowor i just ask things over and over again
14:37.02Kattyrolandow: yes i am a fan of lists.
14:37.12rolandowwhich makes me look like a total idiot when i'm trying to ask (and remember) a girls name
14:37.33Kattyoh that's easy
14:37.36rolandowlike.. i ask her name .. and then 10 seconds later..it's gone already
14:37.38Kattyjust make a new contact and hand them your phone
14:37.49Kobaz"dinner at my place"
14:37.52rolandowhehe
14:37.57Kobazi need your number for the invite
14:38.04Kobazand your name too
14:38.17Kattyfacepalms.
14:38.23Kattyakward penguin.
14:38.29rolandowwell i guess i could make a note next time in my phone
14:38.33rolandowthat's better than asking 10 times
14:38.47rolandowi had this problem last friday
14:38.55Kattythe more socially acceptable thing to do is just not say anything
14:39.08rolandowso i checked with other ppl who were attending the party as well
14:39.11Kattyand then quietly ask one of your friends when they're not looking
14:39.15Kobazand then be like   "hey,....you"
14:39.20rolandowturns out her name is irmgard
14:39.29rolandowwhat kind of a name is that!?
14:39.41rolandowit may be cool in LOTR
14:39.42Kobaznon-american
14:39.49rolandownon-dutch as well
14:40.15rolandowno wonder i could remember that
14:40.24rolandowbtw is this channel logged somewhere and kept forever in google history?
14:40.39rolandowi should probably change my nick then to something less close to my real name :)
14:41.35Kobaztoo late
14:42.05rolandowwho's in charge of those logs?
14:42.12rolandowdamnit.. do i ever learn
14:45.31Kattyyou should have asked her if you could call her something for short.
14:45.43Kattyone of my neighbors had a very indian name
14:45.47Kattyi just called him mo.
14:45.49Katty:P
14:45.52rolandowlike.. irm?
14:46.04Kattyhonestly? i don't recall
14:46.11rolandowhehe...
14:46.49rolandowthere was a friend who was called "gans" .. which means goose
14:46.55rolandowbecause he was rather tall .. and well, ugly ..
14:47.18rolandowit took me over a year to find out that his name was actual michel
14:47.47rolandowand i wan't the only one .. most ppl dind't know his own name
14:47.57rolandowbut well he didn't seem to bother :)
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14:57.40joeliostrange issue. Asterisk located on internal network. Conference set to dial meetme on external (public facing) VM. 15 minute dropout. No NAT, firewall with SIP munging etc.. any pointers on where to look?
14:59.41rolandowi'm off ! have a nice day ..
15:00.44drmessanojoelio: Have you checked any logs?
15:02.28Jinxed-Does anyone know if Astereisk has something similar to MLPP?
15:02.38Jinxed-Asterisk*
15:03.53QwellWhat is MLPP?
15:03.55Kattywhat's mlpp
15:04.03KattyQwell: JINX YOU OWE ME A COKE
15:04.09QwellKatty: NOPE, 2 whole seconds.
15:04.14Katty:<
15:04.20Kattygrumbles.
15:04.29QwellDid you finish the project?
15:04.37Kattyi made a bacon strip yesterday.
15:04.43Kattybut the tardis isn't done just yet. another 40 rows to go
15:04.47Kattybut 3/4 done (=
15:05.21Roelthmmm, bacon
15:08.30Jinxed-Multilevel Precedence and Preemption (MLPP) service allows validated users to place priority calls, and if necessary, to preempt lower-priority calls. Precedence indicates the priority level of a call. Preemption is the process of terminating a lower-precedence call so a call of higher precedence can proceed. This capability assures high-ranking personnel can communicate with critical organizations and personnel during network st
15:08.38Jinxed-http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucme/admin/configuration/guide/cmemlpp.html#wp1053941
15:09.23Kattyyeah i guess i should blog it.
15:09.37Kattyi'm not really happy with the pattern tho. it needs some work
15:10.03QwellJinxed-: meh, that's just dialplan
15:10.08Qwellshouldn't be terribly difficult
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15:11.59Jinxed-Qwell: So If I had a system that could handle 3 calls and the system was up and running with 3 calls active, and the ceo decides she/he want to make a call it would terminate one of the lower calls to make room for the higher priority call.... and you could do that with a dialplan?
15:13.02Qwellsure, doesn't seem hard
15:16.31Kattyhttp://42ndknitstreet.blogspot.com/2012/07/bacon-strips-and-bacon-strips-and-bacon.html
15:17.18Qwellare you going to bacon up the tardis?
15:17.26Kattyno, that's for my xmas tree
15:17.38Kattybut i think i'm going to bind off everything above the pink bits
15:17.39Qwellare you going to tardis up the christmas tree?
15:17.46Kattyso it'll be curvy, like real bacon
15:17.52Kattypossibly.
15:18.05Kattyso far i've only decided on bacon, eggs, toast, and sausage garland
15:18.24Kattywhich may or may not happen
15:20.03Jinxed-Qwell: how would you disconnect an active call in a dialplan?
15:20.17KobazSofthangup()
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15:24.06KattyQwell: what do you think i should try after the tardis is done?
15:24.18KattyQwell: i'm thinking a beanie hat.
15:24.27Kobazi have a beanie
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15:24.40Kattyor maybe a drink coozie
15:24.45Qwellsweater!
15:24.50Kattyheavens no.
15:24.56Qwellsweatervest?
15:24.57Kattyi swore to never knit sweaters or socks.
15:25.01Kobazhah
15:25.03Kattyonly cool things.
15:25.12Qwellhey, don't knock the sweatervest
15:25.25Kobazmake an afghan
15:25.34KattyKobaz: i alreayd know how to make 2d objects.
15:25.38KattyKobaz: the goal is to make 3d
15:25.44Kobazmake a bathrobe
15:25.51Kattythink smaller.
15:26.00Kobazbath shorts
15:26.00Kattyit takes nearly 30 hours to make a laptop sleeve
15:26.09Kattya bathrobe would likely take a month :P
15:27.25Kattythinking a drink coozie would be simple. and teach me to knit with 5 needles at once.
15:27.36joeliodrmessano: No, unfortunately not. I'm goung to increase the verbosity
15:27.53Kattymaybe a nintendo controller coozie
15:27.53QwellKatty: not to be that guy, but is that a practical item to make?
15:28.06Kattyit's not about the practicality of the item.
15:28.14Kattyit's about how to knit with 5 pointed knitting needles
15:28.21Qwellno, but, making something you could use would be +++
15:28.24Kattyjust about anything small, that IS practical, requires those
15:28.43Kattyoh i'd use a coozie.
15:28.46Qwellwell then
15:28.47KattyWINTER IS COMING
15:30.11drmessanoShut up
15:30.30Kattyhttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EBZcy2yiyKw/Tqlv26w8avI/AAAAAAAAAVE/ZrQv_3OelDk/s1600/Freaker%2Bcoozie%2Bbeer%252C%2Bwine%252C%2Bcoffee%252C%2Bsoda%252C%2Bwhatever..JPG <- these are all pretty adorable.
15:30.52Roeltexcept that german flag.. :-)
15:31.30Kattyi know! a star trek bottle one
15:31.35Kattyyellow and black.
15:31.45Kattywith a little star trek ensignia, and ARMS attached to the size
15:31.47Kattyerm side
15:33.07Kattyhttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4022/4466823331_f408d73839_z.jpg <- looks like someone already had the idea
15:33.43Kattybut longer. and we can't forget security.
15:34.02QwellKatty: you need a red one too, for the people you don't like much
15:34.12Kattyexactly. security.
15:37.47carrarKatty, do you have any mannequin arms?
15:38.05Kattyno, but i have two real ones.
15:38.24carrarshould make one for your keyboard, mouse and monitor
15:38.30carrarand car
15:38.35Kattymake one...what?
15:38.40carrara cover
15:38.45carrarlike in that pic you posted
15:39.17Kattyoh like the coozie you mean?
15:39.26carraryeah
15:39.53carrarcar coozie
15:40.03Kattythat'd get awfully dirty
15:40.07carrarand for all your pens and pencils
15:40.17carrareverything on your desk should have a coozie
15:40.22carrarincluding the desk!
15:40.40Kattyi think they call that yarn bombing
15:41.12Kattyhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_C4ymTD4J7w8/TDywfsRzREI/AAAAAAAAAms/1ssEK2j7XPM/s1600/crochet_covered_smart_car.jpg
15:43.05carraryeah thats hot
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15:57.44asteriskATmarmuDhi guys! I want to dial several numbers with my perl AGI script and write the dialstatus and/or hangupcause to a mysql-DB. my question is: how can I wait for a call to finish and get the hangupcause, before calling the next number. or tell me how you would do it
16:00.28Kattynoms loaded tator
16:03.24amessinatzafrir_laptop: you avail?
16:03.37tzafrir_laptopamessina, yes
16:04.15amessinatzafrir_laptop: I've emailing with Kurt from Xorcom regarding the callerid issue as well as https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/DAHTOOL-60
16:05.28amessinatzafrir_laptop: Kurt emailed me your response to him (I think) regarding the Astribank initialization issue.  Which commit is that in SVN?  Also is it in dahdi-tools or dahdi-linux?
16:05.57tzafrir_laptopIt's dahdi-linux
16:07.57amessinatzafrir_laptop: http://messinet.com/rpms/browser/dahdi-linux/dahdi-linux-r10694.patch ?  If so, I've had it included in my own build/packages.
16:08.12tzafrir_laptopr10692 in trunk, r10694 in branches/2.6
16:08.30amessinaWhen I first started troubleshooting the callerid, I saw this and figured I'd throw it in, but it didn't do anything for the callerid.
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16:09.28tzafrir_laptopWithout it (and with a recent enough kernel), the initializations are completely broken
16:09.53amessinatzafrir_laptop: For the callerid issue, I've got ana analog phone that receives callerid just fine directly from the PSTN, and a TDM400p card that I used to use in an old server that also receives callerid just fine from the PSTN.
16:10.35pyther24Is there a better voip provider than callcentric?
16:10.43Qwell~itsplist-us
16:10.43infobotHere are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones: http://www.teliax.com , http://www.voicepulse.com/connect/ , http://www.broadvoice.com , http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net , http://voip.ms and http://flowroute.com
16:11.06tzafrir_laptopIf it's not that issue of the initializations, also consider testing a loopback of FXS-FXO
16:11.10amessinaWhen doing the FXS-FXO loopback, I get callerid from DAHDI/1 to DAHDI/2 to DAHDI/14 (it shows what I have set in chan_dahdi.conf for channel 1)
16:11.20pyther24Qwell: more looking for personal experience
16:11.52amessinaThat's why I can seem to figure out why the Astribank can't receive it -- everything else can.
16:13.04amessinaOr rather why PSTN --> Astribank --> Asterisk cannot, where Asterisk --> Astribank --> Asterisk can.
16:13.08tzafrir_laptopNext thing to do would be to record the audio with dahdi_monitor and see that the caller ID was passed properly
16:14.54amessinaI've recorded the audio myself and the folks from Xorcom have as well.  I'm not sure what it's supposed to sound like ;) but I do hear some 'modem' sounds after the first ring.  Not sure how I know whether they're 'proper' or not.
16:15.20amessinaIs there a way for me to feed that recording into Asterisk via a Playback or something and have it detect the callerid?
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16:29.32pyther24flowroute looks like they might be a good choice, anyone have any experience with them? Are they 24/7 reliable?
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16:31.14TriJetScudKatty: you chat here all the time do you?
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16:34.00KattyTriJetScud: off and on, when i'm not busy.
16:34.03paulcpyther24: what are your current issues with Callcentric? (not affiliated, just have a friend who recently started using them)
16:35.10pyther24paulc: they don't pass callerid when forwarding a call
16:35.26pyther24I just started using them myself, but it would be really nice to pass the callerid
16:35.41pyther24my use case, is to forward calls to my cell if no one picks up
16:36.00pyther24basically I'm on call and always need to be reachable, cell reciption in my apartment is poor at best
16:36.57drmessanoCallcentric is too expensive, IMO
16:37.18pyther24that was the other thing, I don't mind paying though for good service
16:37.36pyther24seems like flowroute is very basic in terms of not offering any pbx type features
16:38.25drmessanoPBX features?  No, they are a provider.. you're the one with the PBX though, so why do you need someone to have "features"?
16:38.52pyther24I don't, callcentric offers more pbx features
16:39.04drmessanoum ok
16:39.07pyther24so in my case, it seems like flowroute might be a better solution, if they have the reliability
16:39.25drmessanoflowroute is reliable and in use by many
16:39.28pyther24flowroute seems better fitted for asterisk users
16:39.42pyther24drmessano: any number or status or business using them?
16:40.34drmessanoI have 10 customers on Flowroute, and if you ask in here at the right time, you'll find folks operating callcenters that use them
16:41.22pyther24sweet, I'll have to look into them closer tonight, and maybe give them a shot
16:41.45drmessanoTheir service is inexpensive, reliable, and their support is top notch
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16:42.32amessinatzafrir_laptop: how does this sound: http://messinet.com/~amessina/13_rx3.wav? That's from the PSTN.  This one is from the FXS-FXO loopback: http://messinet.com/~amessina/14_rx.wav
16:42.44drmessanoCallcentric caters more to the Vonage crowd.. those that might like to buy their own ATA or phone and set it up themselves vs. just buying a Vonage box and plugging it in
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16:43.07Kattyhi tony
16:43.16Kattydrmessano: you know what you need?
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16:43.22drmessanoWhat is that?
16:43.29Kattyan icey cold beer
16:43.38drmessanoThat would be nice
16:43.48Kattylet's abandon work and go get one
16:43.57carrar6 icey cold beers
16:44.05KattyYES
16:44.09drmessanoWe can meet in Nashville
16:44.20drmessanoHow far is that from you?
16:44.28n3hxs6 won't cut it for the 196 peeps in channel.
16:44.47carrar4,704 icey cold beers
16:44.59n3hxsYeah,
16:45.30Kattyi think nashville is 4 hours?
16:45.31Kattygoogles
16:45.56carraror 12 kegs
16:46.25drmessanoKatty:  Somewhere between nashville and Chattanooga then.. I am 6 to Nashville
16:46.39carrarerr 28 kegs
16:46.41drmessanoNo, maybe 5
16:46.59Kattychatanooga is 6 hours away
16:47.15KattyAND 3 MINUTES
16:47.48Kattywow nashville is only 4 hours, i should go more often
16:49.22KattyQwell: do you have a couch? air mattress?
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16:49.52QwellKatty: nope
16:49.53Kattyirroot: afternoon greg
16:50.16KattyQwell: oh that's right..they got stolen
16:50.18drmessanoKatty, we meed to meet in Monteagle, TN.. it's the halfway point.  See you in 5 hours and 31 minutes
16:50.23irrootyo yo good evening
16:50.31Kattydrmessano: jeebus.
16:50.43Kattydrmessano: just take a plane cape already
16:50.57Kattydrmessano: wait, i know a pilot. i'll send the boy after you :P
16:51.07irrootall of 19h middle of winter
16:51.12n3hxsIs Monteagle where that huge fireworks store is?
16:51.19drmessanon3hxs:  YES
16:51.26Kattyi awnna go to a huge fireworks store.
16:51.29drmessanoI forgot all about it
16:51.29Kattysneaks lighter in.
16:51.51Kattyirroot: middle of winter eh?
16:51.51n3hxsWe have offices in Chatt and Nashville.
16:51.53drmessanoKatty:  I may be passing by you around Christmas.  Beer should be cold by then
16:52.06QwellI have cold beer in my fridge - just sayin'.
16:52.07Kattydrmessano: i would hope so, if not we'll stick it out in the snow until it's flavor returns.
16:52.10n3hxsSeems I bought bottle rockets some time in the past .
16:52.13irrootyip southern hemi
16:52.22Kattyirroot: get any snow yet?
16:52.35KattyQwell: what if i bring an air mattress? :P
16:52.43QwellKatty: plenty of floor space
16:52.44irrootlol no dont snow here did once in 1981
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16:53.01Kattyplots trip to huntsville
16:53.12KattyQwell is totally cool. i'd crash on his floor.
16:53.40Kattyhuntsville isn't a dry county is it
16:53.59Qwellgod no
16:54.03Kattygood.
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16:54.15Kattygatlinburgh, TN was testing my patience with its lack of beer sales.
16:54.30QwellKatty: The JD distillery is in a dry county.
16:54.32Qwellfigure that one out
16:54.34Kattythank goodness for it's "grandfathered" in policies and it's microbreweries
16:54.37KattyYES
16:54.47Kattyi think they should just threaten to leave.
16:54.54Qwellthey don't have to
16:55.00Kattyno?
16:55.08Kattyit's legal to sell JD in that dry county?
16:55.25Qwellit's a tiny county
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16:56.35Kattyi never really understood the point of dry counties.
16:56.51Kattyjust religious reasons, i spose
16:57.03Kattytho they could probably use the taxes for something
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16:57.28Kattycape is getting a casino here soon...i'm super excited about tax potential
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16:58.50Jinxed-Does anyone have an example of how one might do MLPP with asterisk?
17:00.00amessinatzafrir_laptop: how does this sound: http://messinet.com/~amessina/13_rx3.wav? That's from the PSTN.  This one is from the FXS-FXO loopback: http://messinet.com/~amessina/14_rx.wav
17:00.08Kattyanyone know of a cute little touristy spot to go for halloween?
17:00.17carrarDisneyland!
17:00.17irrootis thinking that the black market is big in dry counties
17:00.28Kattycarrar: isn't that kind of...kid oriented.
17:00.30carrarobakichan!
17:01.10carrarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDzhPjVQjRw
17:01.31chuckfKatty: getting a casino in your neighborhood sounds better than the reality
17:01.57Kattyluckily it's not in my neighborhood.
17:02.04Kattycarrar: that...is...
17:02.08Kattycarrar: ...interesting?
17:02.15carrarheh
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17:02.56Kattybut the little dancing...ghosts? were kinda cute
17:03.24carrardon't forget the disney halloween parade
17:03.33carrarSCARY!!
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17:04.42Katty:>
17:04.43irrootis off to pongola tommorow early am 6hr road trip for a meeting then back home 12hrs in car in one day
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17:06.48carrardisneyland is for all ages katty!
17:07.02Kattyyes but there are children running around
17:07.05carrarI'm probably going to tokyo disney land again this year for halloween
17:07.10Kattyand children are not neccessarily for kattys
17:07.26Kattyi'm t hinking new orelans
17:07.41carrarOh you want drunkin topless beer fun
17:07.48Kattyno.
17:07.54Kattywell drunkin maybe
17:08.01chuckfthat's her saturday nights
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17:08.07chuckf:D
17:08.12carrarhaha
17:08.21Kattyi usually go to the gym saturday nights hehe
17:08.39carrarless hangovers that way
17:08.48Kattydon't get hangovers.
17:08.49Kattyever.
17:08.59carrardrive 20 beers and no water
17:09.00Jinxed-is this the off-topic asterisk channel?
17:09.01carrardrink
17:09.07Jinxed-is there a normal asterisk channel?
17:09.07carrarNO
17:09.16carrarthere is #freepbx
17:09.18Kattynot when we're around.
17:09.25Kattyi'm there too.
17:09.29carrarheh
17:11.20Kattyi just wanna go to someplace all cutesy decorated for halloween
17:11.32carrarcomicom?
17:11.54Kattydo a haunted house, eat some cute decorated cupcakes, and maybe take a cute little carriage ride down some old brick street to see all the decorations
17:12.07Kattyfacepalms
17:12.11Kattyno, not comicon you goofball
17:12.35carrarwould be awesome to see you dress like this
17:12.35carrarhttp://poohatur.com/wp-content/gallery/comic-con-2009/comic-con-2009-20.jpg
17:12.52Kattythat's not my style.
17:13.10Jinxed-It seems like nearly every open source voip solution is based on asterisk
17:13.16Jinxed-freepbx/trixbox/etc
17:13.24Jinxed-are there any open source competitors
17:13.33carrarJinxed, so just use Asterisk from source!
17:13.40carrarBeat them at their own game!
17:13.48WIMPyJinxed-: Sure. For what area exactely?
17:14.07carrarJinxed, like GNU SIP Witch?
17:14.10Kattycarrar: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2571/3773703655_070801c91f.jpg
17:14.16carraropensips, kamilio
17:14.22carrarbut those aren't really PBX's
17:14.31carrar-really
17:14.51WIMPyIs there any open source PBX?
17:14.57carrarkatty, yeah thats nice
17:15.12carrarshould knitt that up
17:15.45Kattynah, i've worn the same halloween costume for 3 years
17:15.45Jinxed-Katty, what was the random sci-fi chick for?
17:15.55carrarwhich costume is that?
17:17.26irrootputs a dildo on my sholder as opposed to parrot [here the word voel directly translated bird is a name for a penis] and having one leg on cruches its a sortof captain hook
17:17.55Jinxed-WIMPy, Do you know if asterisk supports MLPP
17:18.45WIMPyJinxed-: It's all dialplan. You do everything yourself.
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17:19.04Kattycarrar: it's a leg avanue military one
17:19.09Kattyc hecks to see if it's still on website
17:19.30carrarJinxed, do you mean MLPPP?
17:19.51carrarMultiLink PPP
17:20.18carrar"bonded" PPP ciruits
17:20.47irrootbonded links are not the same as MLPPP
17:20.59WIMPyJinxed-: Actually I don't think there's any way to do preemption.
17:21.07carrarhence the qutoes
17:21.08Qwellsure there is
17:21.11Qwellfind a channel, hang it up
17:21.17carraror Multilevel Precedence and Preemption
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17:21.42Jinxed-Multilevel Precedence and Preemption
17:21.52WIMPyOk, jusy killing calls is possible. But there's no way to put them on hold.
17:22.10QwellIf you don't have enough lines available, putting it on hold isn't going to do anything.
17:22.16WIMPy(which is a big issue anyway)
17:22.27irrootcarrar indeed spent some time trying to explain to some people the difference and the vibe router
17:22.28NuggetWhat am I gonna do with 40 subscriptions to Vibe?!
17:22.40WIMPyThat's the idea of putting calls on hold.
17:22.46carrarJinxed, could do something in a AGI/AMI
17:23.00carrarcould force a hang on another call to make a higher priority call
17:23.14QwellWIMPy: Putting a line on hold doesn't free it up...
17:23.38QwellJinxed-: Here's a better way.  Get more lines.
17:23.40WIMPyQwell: Sure it does. That's the whole point of doing so.
17:23.44carrarheh
17:23.52WIMPyIt's just that noone here seems to understand these basics :-(
17:25.42QwellHold allows you to do something with another "line".  It doesn't somehow magically make it available for use.
17:26.21WIMPyI'm not going to argue about the absolute basics.
17:26.51drmessanoHmmm
17:27.13drmessanoIf I put a call on hold, and it frees up the line, how do I get it back off hold if the line is freed?
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17:27.31carrarwith solder and sound cards
17:27.36drmessano!!!
17:27.46Kattycarrar: http://worldoffancydress.com/images/Wartime%20officer%2035335.jpg Found it!
17:27.51Katty^- clearly not me.
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17:28.07carrarWOAH, nice pic of you katty!
17:28.11Katty>.<
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17:28.19Kattyhow dare you suggest i'm a blonde.
17:28.36carrarthat outfit cries for a short riding crop
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17:30.34Kattywelli don't own one
17:30.54carraruh huh
17:32.02TriJetScudKatty: just wondering what actually happened at the first cluecon for you?
17:32.22Kattywhat happened at cluecon, stays at cluecon
17:32.39TriJetScudlolol
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17:36.10Jinxed-WIMPy, do you have any links on how one might achieve MLPP with dialplans?
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17:46.12TechSmurfCan anyone recommend phones for a small business setting? Low call volume, 20 sets total, 12 basic, 8 premium. basic need 2 lines (probably only ever use 1), intercom/paging, option to disable call logs. Premium need 3+ lines, intercom/paging, option to disable call logging on a per-call basis *highly* desirable for ringall group vs direct calls.
17:46.39QwellTechSmurf: http://www1.digium.com/en/products/phones
17:46.51Qwellcall logging really isn't a phone option
17:47.01Qwellneither is something like ringall
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17:48.41WIMPyJinxed-: As I said: You have to do it all yourself. You have functions to count calls and to hangup other calls.
17:53.10Jinxed-It doesn't seem like trixbox is being developed much any more
17:53.16Jinxed-is that an accurate conclusion?
17:53.22Qwellyes
17:53.37TechSmurfthinks qwell didn't understand that...
17:54.03QwellTechSmurf: which?
17:55.16TechSmurfI'm not sure how you equated ringall as a phone feature
17:55.34Qwellthe comma in your last sentence
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18:02.53TechSmurfAnyway... any recommendations other than qwell's blatant plug?
18:03.35thecardsmithi hate to say it too, but, i have a single digium phone... and, it's awesome.
18:03.43WIMPyTechSmurf: I dislike the old Snom 320/360/370 the least.
18:03.53TechSmurfWIMPy: that's not encouraging :D
18:04.14WIMPyIf it uses SIP it will be shit.
18:05.33WIMPyMight have been a good idea for Digium to give IAX some more care again and use that.
18:06.06QwellIAX2 is not useful as a phone protocol.
18:06.35WIMPySurely more than SIP.
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18:08.40TechSmurfcan the digium phones' call log application be tailored to selectively ignore calls based on alert info?
18:09.07Qwelloh, that kind of call log
18:09.31Qwellmalcolmd: any idea? ^
18:09.40WIMPyTechSmurf: Dial() has an option to mark all calls as answered.
18:10.01QwellWIMPy: he means incoming calls
18:10.08TechSmurfWIMPy: I don't want it to just go unmissed... I want it unlogged entirely.
18:10.28TechSmurffor some sets.
18:10.38WIMPyTechSmurf: So you don't want the answered calls logged, either?
18:10.46TechSmurfOn some sets, no.
18:10.47carrarsounds illegal
18:10.51WIMPySome sets or some calls?
18:10.58TechSmurfsome calls on some sets
18:11.16TechSmurfflag some calls with alert info, modify call log application on some sets to pay attention to alert info
18:11.38WIMPyI don't think there's much chance to get that going with anything.
18:12.08TechSmurfperhaps... but it'd be one hell of a selling point :P
18:12.26WIMPyIf you use different accounts, you may be able to disable the logging per account. That works on Snom.
18:12.39TechSmurfhmm.. that's not unreasonable either.
18:14.44TechSmurfcarrar: I think whatever your imagination has cooked up is probably hilarious.
18:15.57carraredible raindeer?
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18:18.32TechSmurfQwell: oh, since you're alive, you're aware of the mysql addon bug in *now, yes?
18:18.46QwellIt's not a bug.
18:19.03Kattyyou're a bug.
18:19.17Qwellgives Katty malaria
18:19.24Kattygosh.
18:19.28Kattynow that's a little uncalled for.
18:19.32Qwellthe good kind!
18:19.42Kattythere is no such thing as good malaria!
18:19.59Qwellit's like getting chicken pox as a child
18:20.10TechSmurfso broken cdr isn't considered a bug?
18:20.24pyther24Does anyone know flowroutes sip server address? I'd like to ping it to see what the latency is
18:20.50TechSmurfQwell: Please, tell me more of your idea of broken features not being bugs.
18:20.58QwellTechSmurf: It's not broken.  It's disabled.
18:21.31QwellIf they want to configure something by default that doesn't require restrictive licensing, we'd absolutely welcome it.
18:21.44Qwell(they == FreePBX)
18:21.55carrarpyther24, wouldn't that be _sip._udp.flowroute.net
18:22.33carrarguessing
18:22.37TechSmurfHmm...
18:22.44carrar_sip._udp.blah
18:22.54pyther24seems that way :-/
18:23.08pyther24nealy 90-100ms to reach them :(
18:23.14carrarthough anything *.flowroute.net seems to resolve :)
18:23.35carrarping icantpingyou.flowroute.net
18:23.38pyther24doesn't seem like they have eastern datalocations
18:24.09TechSmurfQwell: Well, by default CDR doesn't look the slightest bit disabled.. but it sure doesn't work either.
18:25.16QwellThey ship a config for a module that just isn't there.
18:25.57carrarpyther24: host -t SRV _sip._udp.flowroute.com
18:26.11carrarping one of those
18:26.58pyther24carrar: yah, ping times are about 80-90 and peak at 100ms
18:27.02pyther24afraid that might be a bit much
18:27.27carrar37ms here
18:27.40pyther24carrar: location?
18:27.45carrarseattle
18:27.47pyther24I'm in Knoxville, TN
18:27.51pyther24big  difference
18:28.03pyther24I'm going at leats half way across the nation
18:29.18Kattyi wanna go to seattle
18:29.24carrarcome on up!
18:29.30carrarwe're having great weather
18:29.36carrarunlike the rest of the country
18:30.11carrarSeafair is coming up
18:30.17carrarblue angles
18:30.21carrarboat races
18:30.34carrarbig parades
18:31.11Kattyand noms?
18:31.17carraralways noms
18:31.21Katty:>
18:31.29carrarnoms and coffee
18:31.36Kattyof the iced variety?
18:31.52carrarany variety
18:31.56Kattywoot!
18:37.22pyther24"Our Primary and Secondary SIP proxies are in Nevada and California, respectively; though please note once again that the RTP Media Gateways (for call audio) are located in various locations across the globe." Not very specific but a fast reply
18:37.35pyther24FlowRoute
18:41.45carrarpyther24, thats because they resell other providers
18:41.51carrarlike level 3
18:41.58carraror whoever
18:42.13carrarand your media is pin their provider
18:42.17carrarbinned
18:42.18carrarerr
18:42.20carrarpinned
18:42.53carrarflowroute is probably just a sip proxy
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18:43.13pyther24so there is a good chance I'll have lower latencies in call, right?
18:43.25carrardepends who they use for their provider
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18:43.41carrarthey may use a Round Robin of Media IP endpoints
18:43.55carrarin which case you roll the dice
18:44.31carrarThey might be doing least cost routing
18:44.41carrarso depending on who you call it goes elsewhere
18:45.04carrartry em out
18:45.09carrarcapture some sip
18:45.17carrarfind out where they send your calls
18:46.02Katty2 hours till FREEDOM
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18:58.29noffleIs there any means of dynamically adding SIP accounts at run-time without needing to manually update the sip.conf configuration file?
19:00.44Nuggetuse a database for the sip config
19:00.59Kattyhi nugget
19:01.04Nuggethuggles Katty
19:01.09Kattyhow're you dear
19:01.16Nuggetlife is good
19:01.22Kattywoo!
19:01.39noffleNugget: Could you clarify a little further?
19:02.17Nuggetset up odbc and use it for sippeers in extconfig.conf
19:02.55Nuggethttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+res_config
19:03.13noffleOh, excellent. Thanks for the reference.
19:03.33Nuggethttp://www.asterisk.org/astdocs/node48.html
19:04.17NuggetDon't be tempted to use native database (mysql or postgresql or whatever)
19:04.24Nuggetdo it via odbc -- you'll be glad you did down the road
19:04.36noffleWhy is that?
19:04.44Nuggetdirect database is deprecated
19:04.50Nuggetodbc is the way of the future
19:04.58noffleNoted.
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19:19.43Roeltwhy not realtime asterisk? http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+RealTime+Sip
19:21.23noffleOoh.
19:22.36Roeltthat's what i'm using, and it seems to works pretty good. no need to reload
19:23.13RoeltHmz. callerid drops the first 0 when beeing called.. that's not nice
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19:43.43NuggetRealtime asterisk is what I suggested.
19:44.00Nuggetit's just sort of an older name for the same stuff
19:44.17malcolmdnah, there's no way to selectively ignore calls based on alert info.  i'll add a feature request
19:44.20Kattyso i found cards against humanity, online.
19:44.30Nuggetand that wiki page suggests using res_mysql which isn't recommended
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19:48.45QwellKatty: dangerous
19:52.20Kattya bit :>
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20:10.43RoeltNugget, oh, indeed. I only read the first link, that talked about reloading before changes appear
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20:35.22BJD10Q: Just did an upgrade on a server from asterisk 1.4 - 1.8 LTS asterisk works fine. But the TDM400 is now not working.. dahdi_scan shows FSX FAILED and dmesg says its not getting voltage. The card has never had Voltage applied to it. Is this something to do with the dahdi-linux update? and how do I isolate and correct? The server does not have the ablity to add power (or else I would have already)
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20:35.48gbit86hey
20:36.33leifmadsenBJD10: voltage is required by an FXS module since it produces a ring voltage that can't be supplied by a PCI slot
20:36.37leifmadsenthis has always been the case
20:36.56leifmadsenthis is typically supplied via a power connector like you would connect to a CDROM drive in the tower
20:37.04gbit86I need some assistance, I need a specific firmware file for my cisco 7961 phone, but I do not have a support contract with cisco.. could some one do me a favor and download this firmware file and upload it for me somewhere?
20:37.06gbit86http://www.cisco.com/cisco/software/release.html?mdfid=280083379&catid=278875243&release=8.3(2)_SR1&softwareid=282074288&sortparam=
20:37.16Qwellgbit86: That would be piracy.
20:37.33gbit86I just need this file cmterm-7941_7961-sip.8-3-2SR1.zip
20:37.42QwellSo buy what you need, to get the access that you want.
20:37.53QwellPeople here are not going to break the law to help you.  Sorry.
20:38.16gbit86it's a firmware file, I have no intention on actually using it. I do need it however so I can properly overwrite the firmware with a SIP firmware file instead!!
20:38.52WIMPyis pretty sure there are people here who wouldn't be braking any law.
20:39.04gbit86I think Cisco's firmware policy is not appropriate, particular for my use case, so forgive me if I don't feel morally conflicted on this
20:39.25gbit86particularly*
20:40.37leifmadsenpossibly
20:40.57leifmadsenjust because you don't think it's appropriate doesn't make it their policy
20:41.36QwellIf you don't agree with their policies, don't buy their hardware.
20:42.15gbit86well.. that was not a decision in my control, and I don't feel like debating this issue needlessly
20:42.21QwellThen please leave.
20:45.08leifmadsenisn't debating; simply not providing requested firmware due to policy
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20:47.00BJD10leifmadsen: That was what I was under the impression of. However this system was working Friday before the upgrade, so now I am all confused. Dahdi_scan only shows 2 modules.. 1 FXS 1 FXO
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20:47.37leifmadsenBJD10: not sure -- voltage requirement has always been the case. Possible the change from zaptel to dahdi causes some sort of requirement/notification about lack of voltage
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21:05.41zopsiHas anyone ever implemented something that detects a voltage change and initiates something in asterisk?
21:06.25mjordandetects a voltage change in what?
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21:10.32nephflhello
21:10.36newtonrnephfl: hi!
21:11.13zopsia sensor
21:12.00nephflI was reading the HUD/HUD-lite page, and it has a quote on it that made me wonder if there is broader support for hud in other appliance distros now
21:12.09WIMPyWhere does Asterisk com in to play there?
21:12.46Qwellnephfl: Nothing else supports HUD.
21:12.56Qwelltrixbox barely supports it
21:13.15zopsiI was going to use it to call me if someone opens a door.
21:13.24nephflit seems like the only thing fonality has going for them is HUD in their commercial product
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21:13.39newtonrzopsi: yes, you could certainly do something like that
21:13.51nephflzopsi: I have done something like that
21:14.16nephflzopsi: you can do it with a piece of wire if you have a parallel port...
21:15.08nephflI am actually shocked how well that works...
21:15.15zopsiI don't believe I have a parallel port
21:15.26nephflyou can add one, or use a microcontroller
21:15.38nephfleither way $20 worth of hardware
21:17.10zopsiI have a few arduinos lying around
21:17.21nephflthat'll do
21:17.45TechSmurfmalcolmd: Someone else mentioned disabling call logging on a per-account or line basis... would this be an option?
21:17.50nephflyou can just drop a file in the call spool with a script that listens for your serial event..or you can write something to connect to agi
21:18.06malcolmdTechSmurf: not currently.  i saw that one though and added it to the feature request.
21:18.17TechSmurfnods
21:18.38Jinxed-what is this HUD you speak of
21:18.50TechSmurfAny rough guesstimate on the dev cycle?
21:19.07zopsinephfl: that is a bit advanced for me being a new asterisk user, but I'll give it a shot
21:19.31nephflits as easy as creating a basic text file and using a mv command to drop it into a folder
21:20.09nephflyou can also do the opposite, use asterisk to trigger your arduino
21:20.32nephflwhich also isn't hard, since you just call an external script from the dialplan..
21:21.56nephflI cant see why someone hasn't created something with features similar to HUD... I mean isymphonic seems to come close
21:22.17pytherThinking about switching to flowroute, anyone any recommendation or things that I should watch out for?
21:22.38TechSmurfhud looked effing awesome... but never worked for me.
21:22.49BJD10leifmadsen: umm... thanks, I am afraid that might be the issue, or sympton.. Not sure how to get back to what was working... or what to do to solve the problem as there is no way of giving power in the dell 1850.
21:23.13nephflyeah, they sabotage it in their CE ...you have to pay for a working version...or go back to an old version (last I checked)
21:24.09TechSmurfI've since given up on fonality anyway
21:24.18QwellTechSmurf: so has Fonality.
21:24.24TechSmurfexactly
21:24.33leifmadsenBJD10: you have learned a valuable lesson today about upgrading a production machine without testing on a development machine
21:25.01TechSmurfQwell: Production systems are both officially *now
21:25.06Qwell!
21:25.21nephflI know a call center that is running on fonality, so apparently they aren't completely out yet
21:25.44Qwellnephfl: There are call centers running on ROLM.
21:26.08malcolmdgood old rolm
21:26.09Qwell(You know, the company that stopped existing 20+ years ago?)
21:26.18BJD10leifmadsen: Touche
21:26.50nephflone of my clients said they visited fonality a year or so ago and they thought it didn't look like a decent business to be involved with... but... he is a dick as well.. so its hard to know
21:26.52TechSmurfIf a call center system works, I'd generally leave it the hell alone no matter what support may or may not be available
21:26.59BJD10leifmadsen: who would have thought though that the working setup did not have power supplied to the card?
21:27.44leifmadsenthat's the point of testing before deploying to production :)
21:28.00nephflyou apparently cant purchase their pro edition through the website
21:29.07BJD10leifmadsen: I guess so, though I did test all the dialplan and logic first.. just we had the card plugged in with power :)
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21:30.33TechSmurfQwell: Only deeper work I've had to do was to get cdr working and get mp3 voicemail attachments... pretty happy with it
21:30.50drmessanoFonality is selling cloud now.  They could care less about Trixbox or that other PBX product they had.  Different management, different direction
21:31.02QwellTechSmurf: Imagine how trivial it'll be to configure our phones once you buy them.
21:32.25TechSmurfwell, ok, I had to beat Provisioner's configs with a sledge hammer to get the phones working :P
21:32.32drmessanoAll those suckers that built Trashbox systems are now dead in the water.  So sad.
21:32.44QwellTechSmurf: Well, let me outline the steps required with AsteriskNOW + Digium Phones.
21:32.50QwellStep 1) Plug it in.
21:32.53tm1000TechSmurf:  Provisioner?
21:32.55QwellStep 2) Select a user.
21:32.58QwellYou're welcome.
21:33.07TechSmurftm1000: freepbx epm
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21:33.24drmessanoEndpoint manager is friggin easy
21:33.25tm1000what did you have to change and for what phones? TechSmurf
21:33.31drmessanoNo sledgehammer involved
21:34.21TechSmurfout of the box both my spa962 and gxp2000 sets would fail to provision/reboot loop, seemingly due to the configs being too large
21:34.45tm1000looks at the spa962 and gxp2000 on my desk and notices they are fine
21:34.54TechSmurfshrugs helplessly
21:35.06drmessanospa962 won't boot loop on a failed config.  It ignores it
21:35.08TechSmurfand then it failed to give the 962 a dial plan
21:35.16tm1000what version are you using?
21:35.22nephflI guess they found a way they finally found a way to license someone else's open source software by switching to a saas/cloud model
21:35.59TechSmurftm1000: whatever downloaded a couple weeks ago from fpbx module admin..
21:36.14TechSmurfsec for specifics
21:36.15tm1000what version of freepbx then
21:36.43drmessanonephfl:  They never needed "a way".. they seemed to have NO issues using every app they could find, modifying the source, and claiming it as their own.  Even Asterisk was "Foncore"
21:36.59TechSmurf2.10.3.7
21:37.01nephflnice
21:37.18tm1000TechSmurf:  strange
21:37.20tm1000works fine here
21:37.46TechSmurfAfter removing lines 5-8 from the gxp2000 config template, it worked fine
21:37.57TechSmurf(setups for lines 5-8)
21:38.08tm1000I see. thats the normal setup file that I send.
21:38.13TechSmurfas long as the config was less than 4k
21:38.23tm1000maybe it's your tftp server messing up
21:38.23drmessano"Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.. First against the wall when the revolution comes... wait, come here Fonality"
21:38.52TechSmurfpoints at Qwell
21:39.01QwellO.o
21:39.06TechSmurfI'm using the tftp that shipped with *now
21:39.32tm1000why Qwell ?
21:39.43tm1000well it could be a number of issues
21:39.55TechSmurfanyway.. the 962 seemed to experience the same kind of issues.. took out the sidecar configs and it started working fine
21:40.01tm1000im saying if there is some issue with your tftp and file size over 4k then it's not provisioner it's tftp and your network
21:40.12TechSmurfthe 962 config is 64k, so no
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21:40.33TechSmurfat 65k it borked, but I think upgraded firmware fixes that issue.
21:40.33tm1000962 works fine here
21:40.47tm1000im probably on some ancient firmware too
21:41.36TechSmurfAnd I ended up manually stuffing the dial plan for the 962 into spa$mac.xml
21:41.49TechSmurfstill not sure why that var was returning empty
21:42.01tm1000that was fixed a while ago
21:42.39TechSmurfthis happened on a *now 2.0.1 install a few months ago and a 2.0.2 install a couple weeks ago
21:43.07TechSmurfboth cases downloading epm from freepbx module admin and downloading the set configs from within the module from wherever it gets them from
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21:44.36TechSmurf962 was firmware 5.1.8 iirc
21:47.30tm1000TechSmurf:  it'd be nice if you emailed the developer
21:47.33tm1000thats all im sayin'
21:49.22TechSmurfMy developer relations suck, my apologies.
21:50.21TechSmurfponders that
21:51.06TechSmurfActually I'd say I don't want to be obtrusive.. which nicely conflicts with a developer who actually wants their software to work
21:56.45TechSmurftm1000: so, I do wholeheartedly apologize for not considering that you may be the kind of developer who is interested in taking the time to make their software work properly out of the box.. I'll fully document my experience here and toss out a more specific email when I can :)
21:58.32TechSmurfglances around
21:58.50TechSmurfAny other developers of this generally great stuff I can insult accidentally today?
22:00.07drmessanoWell.. Since you mention it
22:00.16WIMPy0900-insultme
22:01.05vastinahello having trouble transferring calls between endpoint, as soon as a digit is entered after # i'll recieve a slow busy
22:01.12vastinasuggestions?
22:01.29vastinas/endpoint/endpoints/
22:01.31WIMPyWrong (or no) context?
22:01.38WIMPyLook at the *CLI.
22:02.02vastinahave been looking in the CLI, what am I looking for exactly? excuse my ignorance
22:02.21WIMPySome error/warning.
22:02.29vastinanot seeing any error
22:02.33vastinanvm
22:02.59WIMPySet verbose and debug to at least 3 and try again.
22:04.57tm1000TechSmurf:  you didnt insult me. hahah. I wrote it. By myself. and since I still write/maintain it by myself I try to keep it working in some form. massive reboots are not fun to hear about ;-)
22:05.24TechSmurfit wasn't too massive
22:05.35TechSmurfI think the gxp2000 issue was documented
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22:06.40TechSmurfactually to be honest I don't think I've tried the gxp on this latest install, so it may be fixed
22:06.50tm1000TechSmurf:  in regards to the HD series yes it's an on going debate. I think they want me to move to XML
22:06.56tm1000I dont think the gxp2000 supports XML
22:07.06tm1000maybe I need to update the GXP firmware
22:07.53TechSmurfI dunno
22:07.55TechSmurflet me test it
22:07.58danfromukHi. This is a little off topic. I was wondering if anyone here is providing hosted call recording, and how they are billing for it? IE, unlimited storage for a fixed fee, or billed per GB.
22:09.20TechSmurfpulls a brand new gxp2000 out of its box and plugs it in
22:10.39TechSmurfnaw, firmware is newest avail
22:15.21TechSmurfgxp2000 doesn't respond to emp reboot request..
22:17.57TechSmurfhmm.. actually it looks like the gxp2000 might be fixed since I last tried.
22:18.39TechSmurfso scratch that
22:27.53TechSmurfand the cfg is over 4096 bytes... how odd
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22:32.41tm1000TechSmurf:  reboot request is sort of a hack
22:32.48tm1000it doesnt respond to a normal sip notify
22:33.00tm1000so I attempt to reboot it over the http
22:33.05tm1000simulating a user interaction
22:33.08tm1000so that may be broken
22:33.12tm1000i will have to look at it
22:33.13tm1000:-)
22:36.05TechSmurfshrugs
22:36.34TechSmurfSounds like a very valid workaround
22:37.01TechSmurfnot sure why it's disagreeing
22:37.33TechSmurfoh.. nice.
22:37.53TechSmurfbecomes a bit more familiar with the custom template functionality and does a little "hell yeah!"
22:38.45TechSmurfhmm...
22:41.00TechSmurfafter making the custom alterations to the template, upon selecting the phone and selecting reboot and clicking rebuild configs for selected phones.... freepbx hung
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22:46.34TechSmurfit was the reboot half of that equation which caused the hang
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22:52.46jorenCan anyone tell me, is the asterisk-gui package supposed to include a switchboard as well?
22:53.09jorenI can't seem to track down a switchboard after installing it
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23:09.19newtonrjoren: what do you mean by switchboard?
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23:19.33jorennewtonr, I guess I'm not entirely sure.. I'm trying to come up with an easy way of using chanspy, and saw mention of a "headset icon" appearing in a switchboard, but maybe that's a just a feature of switchvox?
23:22.35newtonrjoren: Switchvox does have a feature called switchboard. Other names for that kind of feature would be operator panel, heads up display, receptionist screen, probably a bunch of others.
23:22.56newtonrthe "switchboard" is only included with Switchvox, it's a commercial product
23:23.57jorenI see
23:23.59jorenthanks for the info
23:24.34newtonri'm not aware of a pre-made HUD or operator type panel that has source avail
23:24.57newtonrbut, yeah chanspy is probably one of those features you would use with that kind of suite
23:26.05jorenk, won't be quite as slick, but I can probably just an extension
23:26.30newtonryeah
23:26.36newtonrif you google around, you'll find stuff like http://asterclick.drclue.net/index.php
23:27.03newtonrthat may have done some work for you if you are wanting to build a web or desktop interface
23:28.13jorenk, thanks
23:28.24jorenprobably a bit beyond my timeline at this point :P
23:29.11newtonr:)
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23:32.08jorenhttp://www.asternic.org/ looks like it might be something..
23:33.39WIMPy"Works reasonably well with Asterisk 1.6"???
23:33.55jorenheh
23:34.07jorenidk, freepbx chose to implement it
23:34.22newtonrthats right, i forgot about FOP
23:34.54newtonrah there is a FOP2 as well
23:35.56jorenah, well 2 sounds better then 1, naturally :)
23:54.17jpsharpIt is twice as cool.
23:55.03WIMPyWhy do I have to think Dilbert now?
23:55.23paulcI think about Dilbert daily.
23:55.47paulcThey say you can measure employee morale by the number of Dilbert cartoons stuck on cubicle and office walls ;-)
23:56.34WIMPyAll those TFTs are costing...
23:56.51WIMPy... if you don;t know how to handle paper like me.
23:58.03jorenfop2 looks pretty click.. if I can figure out how to use it
23:58.16jorenslick rather

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