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| 01:46.39 | someonelost | hey all |
| 01:47.21 | someonelost | I'm new at this, and I think it should be easy. It in general is easy for me, but it feels as though manufacturers haven't put a lot of time into making phones easy. |
| 01:47.43 | someonelost | I'm after handsets to use with elastix, and I've got no confidence that enything below $200 can be expected to work |
| 01:48.29 | someonelost | I can get Cisco 7941s but the firmware's all locked up tight, and it seems I have to manage a separate config file for each handset, based on MAC address, which seems a pain. |
| 01:48.59 | someonelost | I can get Netcom v85s, but apparently some devices are carrier locked. |
| 01:49.47 | someonelost | I'm after some handsets that will work with elastix with the least possible drama; what's recommended? I'm finding a lot of out of date stuff on the net, or lists of 200 handsets, which isn't much help. |
| 02:02.29 | carrar | use polycoms |
| 02:02.37 | carrar | and try asking in a channel thats for elastix |
| 02:02.45 | carrar | of which this is not |
| 02:08.39 | someonelost | ah thanks |
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| 02:14.38 | phix | I like snom |
| 02:14.47 | phix | 320 <3 |
| 02:14.48 | WIMPy | too |
| 02:15.03 | WIMPy | Or rather I dislike them least. |
| 02:15.11 | phix | plus I can't get polycom's easy in my country |
| 02:15.17 | phix | hehe |
| 02:15.21 | phix | oh WIMPy |
| 02:15.44 | WIMPy | Yes, tehy are pretty rare over here. |
| 02:16.22 | carrar | Do people still shop at a local store? |
| 02:17.00 | WIMPy | Probably not, but due to shipping costs usually on the same continent. |
| 02:18.10 | WIMPy | Actually I wouldn't know any retail store selling IP phones. |
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| 02:36.51 | Kobaz | mm |
| 02:37.01 | Kobaz | doesn't cosco sell fonality systems or something |
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| 03:42.54 | youjelly | in bulk |
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| 04:01.33 | din3sh | decent IP phone with 2 gigabit ports? |
| 04:01.38 | din3sh | anyone? |
| 04:03.43 | TomCat2 | not sure what you're looking for... you mean a singular ip phone, as in to sit on your desk to make 1 call at a time with? |
| 04:06.25 | TomCat2 | the experts in here usually recommend digium phones |
| 04:08.58 | TomCat2 | I misread what you were saying at first and thought yu were looking for a phone with a 2gbps port... I see you just wanted a phone with a built-in 2 port gigabit switch |
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| 04:09.33 | agisamentum | hello telephreaks :) |
| 04:13.38 | pyther | Can someose look at this very brief dial plan? http://pastebin.com/p5wL94pF |
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| 04:14.11 | pyther | Was wondering if that is ok? If that would produce any security risks/issues |
| 04:15.36 | pyther | I'm concerned about this warning "It is critically important that you do not include access to the external lines in any context that might process an incoming call. The risk here is that a phishing bot could eventually gain access to your outgoing trunks (you’d be surprised at how common these phishing bots are)." |
| 04:17.34 | TomCat2 | I'm not sure what phishing has to do with SIP actually - since phishing is a form of fraud, not hacking |
| 04:17.53 | pyther | Got it from http://asteriskdocs.org/en/3rd_Edition/asterisk-book-html-chunk/OutsideConnectivity_id242479.html |
| 04:20.59 | TomCat2 | ah - lol |
| 04:21.09 | TomCat2 | I think that the author of that has phishing confused with phreaking |
| 04:21.29 | pyther | so I'm at a risk for phreaking with that dial plan? |
| 04:21.36 | din3sh | TomCat2: yes an IP phone with 2gigatbit ethernet port built-in |
| 04:21.49 | TomCat2 | yes, you should be concerned about phreaking bots... what it means is don't have your rules set up such that an incoming call will pass through dialplan instructions that handle an outbound number |
| 04:22.26 | TomCat2 | unless, of course, you're setting it up that way deliberately (i.e. providing a calling card service, etc). |
| 04:22.40 | din3sh | the digium d70 has 2 gigabit ports |
| 04:22.47 | din3sh | cisco 7945 also |
| 04:22.50 | pyther | TomCat2: my dial plan doesn't do that does it? |
| 04:23.06 | din3sh | which other brands/make offer 2 gigabit built-in ports? |
| 04:23.15 | TomCat2 | well - your from-callcentric includes users... and users includes to-callcentric |
| 04:23.18 | TomCat2 | so in fact it does do it |
| 04:23.37 | pyther | TomCat2: ok, that's why I asked, how do I enginer it, so that doesn't happen? |
| 04:24.23 | din3sh | pyther: is your asterisk box exposed to the internet? |
| 04:24.52 | TomCat2 | well - I have my "phone extensions" configured in sip.conf with context=from-internal... |
| 04:25.08 | TomCat2 | my trunk is from-flowroute (you'd use from-callcentric) |
| 04:25.09 | pyther | din3sh: not right now, probably won't be |
| 04:25.53 | din3sh | you should secure your sip.conf settings |
| 04:25.58 | pyther | TomCat2: would you mind pasting the section of your dial plan or pming it to me? |
| 04:26.08 | TomCat2 | yeah lets do it in a pm |
| 04:26.23 | din3sh | that would be the entry to access your dialplan |
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| 07:58.17 | dax_roc | Morning all |
| 08:00.29 | dax_roc | I'm testing here and having problems getting to clients to talk, I can call from both but the initiating side will continue to ring and the side that accepts will end the call shortly after it's accepted. I'm nearly sure this is a firewall issue?(sonicwall) |
| 08:01.01 | dax_roc | *I'm using soft-clients |
| 08:11.21 | ectospasm | I wouldn't think so. What does the SIP debug look like? |
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| 08:18.47 | dax_roc | ectospasm: Where do I find/ enable the debug log? |
| 08:19.26 | ectospasm | sip set debug on (for the shotgun approach) |
| 08:19.46 | ectospasm | ...need to make sure debug and verbose are enabled in logger.conf (et. al.) |
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| 08:39.52 | dax_roc | ectospasm: Much apprecaite it, Changed the clients and it's working both directions |
| 08:40.48 | ectospasm | glad to be of help |
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| 08:58.38 | dax_roc | Would wifi cause a lag, 1 sec or so |
| 08:59.46 | dax_roc | I'm using two android handsets, There is about a second delay between them. |
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| 09:30.19 | ectospasm | dax_roc: so it's just the AP between the two Android soft phones? |
| 09:30.26 | ectospasm | ...well, that and Asterisk |
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| 09:47.40 | TomCat2 | ah - success in tracking down why GoDaddy VDS is so slow for anything except traditional web hosting... looking promising to get Asterisk to actually perform well on it. $32/month, 2TB transfer, 2GB ram, CentOS 6 |
| 09:48.02 | TomCat2 | they should pay me - they've had this problem for years |
| 09:49.09 | TomCat2 | 60GB disk space too - didn't realize they were giving so much |
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| 11:09.10 | dax_roc | ectospasm: yeah |
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| 11:58.46 | dax_roc | Is it possible to check the incomming caller id on a sipline against a database table and drop and callback to a maximum concurrent number and queue the rest in turn? |
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| 12:20.03 | Roelt | dax_roc, incoming call sounds like a agi script that puts it into a database |
| 12:20.52 | Roelt | and then some script that fetches the number and does a Dial, and waiting until the lines clear before making a new call |
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| 13:02.17 | pyther | What's the best way to ring my cell phone and and my internal extensions when I receive an incoming call? |
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| 13:04.40 | pyther | and addtionally how can I deal with voicemail answering on the cell phone? |
| 13:22.49 | WIMPy | 1. Just do it, 2. be faster or disable it. |
| 13:25.12 | pyther | WIMPy: I'm not sure how to do it |
| 13:25.21 | pyther | and can I pass the callerid information through? |
| 13:26.31 | pyther | Right now I have something like this: exten => s,1,Dial(SIP/android&SIP/tux&SIP/15556664455) |
| 13:27.27 | WIMPy | Asterisk will not change CallerID by itself. What your provider makes of it is another matter. |
| 13:28.07 | WIMPy | Is the third destination in that dial a peer or is the peer missing there? |
| 13:28.58 | pyther | its missing, I fixed it, copied teh wrong line |
| 13:29.09 | pyther | should be SIP/15556664455@callcentric-trunk |
| 13:29.57 | WIMPy | It's more readable if you write sip/peer/number/ With @ it could be a hostname as well. |
| 13:31.41 | pyther | ahh so like SIP/callcetric-trunk/14405556666 ? |
| 13:42.38 | WIMPy | yes |
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| 14:11.40 | s[x] | hey all |
| 14:14.43 | s[x] | Anyone here used a Vegastream Vega 50 |
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| 14:27.21 | echo083 | our sip provider is applying extra pricing for calls after 1h of communication is it possible with asterisk to stop the conversation after a given time ? |
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| 14:27.52 | carrar | use absolute timeout |
| 14:28.07 | WIMPy | See the timeout function or option L to Dial. |
| 14:28.54 | echo083 | carrar, ok ok i'll check this on google as i'm asterisk beginner i'm using freepbx too |
| 14:29.12 | carrar | I'm sorry to hear you are using freepbx |
| 14:29.17 | carrar | thats has to suck |
| 14:29.26 | echo083 | carrar, yes you are right ... |
| 14:29.39 | echo083 | carrar, i complained on their chan about the bugs with 2.10 |
| 14:29.56 | carrar | Should use Asterisk compiled from source |
| 14:30.00 | echo083 | carrar, i'm using 2.8 version which works correctly approximately but it is another debate |
| 14:30.12 | echo083 | carrar, i compiled my own asterisk 1.6.20 |
| 14:30.20 | echo083 | carrar, and installed freepbx above it |
| 14:30.20 | carrar | Go get Asterisk 10.6.1 and start over |
| 14:30.34 | echo083 | carrar, really :( but it is a stable release ? |
| 14:31.09 | carrar | stable as you make it |
| 14:31.39 | echo083 | carrar, ok by curiosity why did the version jumped from 1.8 to 10 ? |
| 14:32.15 | echo083 | carrar, thousands of updates inside or just new versioning strategy numbering ? |
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| 14:33.04 | WIMPy | ~asterisk 10 |
| 14:33.39 | WIMPy | Hmm. Whatever it was. But it's only a new numbering. |
| 14:33.59 | echo083 | WIMPy, ok ! you mean no interest to ask about it ;) |
| 14:34.12 | echo083 | WIMPy, which configuration file to depfin option L to Dial ? |
| 14:34.36 | echo083 | WIMPy, yes i'll read the book but it's huge :( first tip to start would be useful |
| 14:34.40 | WIMPy | extensions.conf, but FreePBX will not like it if you modify that. |
| 14:34.47 | echo083 | s/depfine/define/ |
| 14:34.57 | WIMPy | Or just change it back. |
| 14:35.16 | echo083 | WIMPy, i'll try asterisk alone |
| 14:35.36 | WIMPy | Good idea. |
| 14:35.48 | echo083 | i'm in extensions.conf |
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| 14:36.09 | echo083 | exten => s,n(noanonymous),Set(TIMEOUT(absolute)=15) |
| 14:36.31 | WIMPy | That's seconds, BTW. |
| 14:36.52 | echo083 | 15 seconds ??? |
| 14:37.02 | WIMPy | But s is the part for calls without destination. |
| 14:37.09 | WIMPy | yes |
| 14:37.15 | carrar | surely your not implementing commands without first reading about them? |
| 14:37.46 | echo083 | carrar, it was the default configuration file generated but indeed i should read the asterisk ultimate book |
| 14:37.58 | echo083 | WIMPy, i'll read the book first |
| 14:38.19 | WIMPy | One more good choice. |
| 14:38.59 | echo083 | a book easier than "Asterisk: The Definitive Guide" to start ? |
| 14:39.13 | echo083 | it would be my last question ;) for today |
| 14:39.23 | WIMPy | ~book |
| 14:39.23 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook |
| 14:39.39 | echo083 | nothing "easier" ? |
| 14:39.41 | WIMPy | That's the recommended one. |
| 14:39.50 | echo083 | ok ok :) |
| 14:40.00 | WIMPy | Asterisk is not an easy thing. |
| 14:41.22 | echo083 | WIMPy, i need to configure three sip phones so that we can call each other woth an id like "0001" "0002" "0003" and three using the same sip line for outgoing calls |
| 14:41.57 | echo083 | as our sip provider allow simultaneous calls |
| 14:42.17 | WIMPy | Does it also allow multiple registrations? |
| 14:42.28 | echo083 | WIMPy, yes ! |
| 14:42.45 | echo083 | WIMPy, but it is limited the more you pay the more simultaneous you have |
| 14:42.45 | WIMPy | Then you don't need anything. |
| 14:42.58 | echo083 | WIMPy, yes i thought that too |
| 14:43.12 | echo083 | WIMPy, but if we call each other and make calls beyond a hour |
| 14:43.40 | echo083 | WIMPy, it will be through across our sip provider and beyond a hour of communication it is extra paying |
| 14:43.41 | WIMPy | Are the phones in the same location (LAN)? |
| 14:43.45 | echo083 | WIMPy, yes |
| 14:44.09 | carrar | just move your desks next to each other |
| 14:44.12 | WIMPy | Then just call the phones directly. SIP is a P2P thing. |
| 14:44.16 | echo083 | WIMPy, and i'd like to manage phone recording for archive |
| 14:44.28 | WIMPy | Dial the IP of the other phone or put it in to your phone book. |
| 14:44.36 | echo083 | WIMPy, you mean sip phone have a default "id" we can call through ? |
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| 14:44.49 | echo083 | WIMPy, ok i didn't know it was possible |
| 14:45.00 | WIMPy | That's what SIP does. |
| 14:45.14 | echo083 | WIMPy, i didn't know dialing an IP worked nice information |
| 14:45.53 | WIMPy | Depends on the device if you can just dial it, but apart from that it's that easy. |
| 14:45.53 | echo083 | WIMPy, but my sip provider would block that i'm almost sure |
| 14:46.06 | echo083 | WIMPy, let me try |
| 14:46.21 | WIMPy | They are not part of that. |
| 14:46.50 | WIMPy | You don;t need a provider or some sort of server to set up a call between phones. |
| 14:46.51 | echo083 | WIMPy, it says "this phone number is not assigned" |
| 14:47.36 | echo083 | WIMPy, my objective was to configure an asterisk server which would connect to our sip provider |
| 14:47.38 | WIMPy | Try the phone book. |
| 14:47.43 | echo083 | WIMPy, ok ok |
| 14:47.50 | WIMPy | Or on some phones you have to use an empty accunt. |
| 14:48.21 | WIMPy | Yes, not a complex setup. But still some stuff to read. |
| 14:48.54 | echo083 | WIMPy, ok ok i'll manage to use internal LAN to make calls with direct IP the time I understand asterisk |
| 14:49.04 | echo083 | WIMPy, it was a really useful information ! thanks |
| 14:49.38 | echo083 | carrar, thanks for your information too |
| 14:50.28 | carrar | might look at opensips too if all you want to do is route calls |
| 14:51.41 | echo083 | carrar, linked with asterisk or nothing in common ? |
| 14:51.59 | carrar | You could, but for your setup, it would be overkill |
| 14:52.41 | carrar | asterisk is probably easier |
| 14:54.01 | echo083 | carrar, yes it seems a lighter solution but i prefer to manage asterisk thus if i need extra tools like recording i'll be sure there are inside it |
| 14:54.33 | echo083 | carrar, if i setup opensips and discover that it doesn't provide tools i need later i'll regret it |
| 14:54.50 | echo083 | s/there/they/ |
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| 14:56.57 | echo083 | carrar, i'm sorry i have to leave, thanks for your help |
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| 18:12.05 | pyther | Does anyone have a local copy of asterisk-1.8.10.1.tar.gz can you verify the md5sums for me? |
| 18:12.08 | pyther | 415738d347b9037cbe5f8bfbe66843de asterisk-1.8.10.1.tar.gz |
| 18:12.20 | pyther | that differs than what is in the openwrt build script :-/ |
| 18:16.13 | carrar | http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/asterisk/asterisk-10.6.1.tar.gz.sha1 |
| 18:16.24 | carrar | oh 1.8.10.1 |
| 18:16.41 | carrar | thats a old release |
| 18:16.59 | pyther | I'm its newer than 1.8.7 :P |
| 18:17.11 | pyther | I'm going to try to bump it, but the openwrt build environment can be very fragile |
| 18:17.15 | carrar | http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/asterisk/old-releases/asterisk-1.8.10.1.tar.gz.sha1 |
| 18:17.22 | pyther | building for a non-x86 arch and what not |
| 18:17.44 | carrar | Just get the source.... from the source |
| 18:18.05 | pyther | carrar: thanks, I looked for a md5sum and didn't see it |
| 18:18.17 | carrar | it's in the URL I jsut pasted |
| 18:18.43 | pyther | yes, I appreciate it, I confirmed the copy is good, I was looking for md5 sum instead of sha1 ;) |
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| 21:18.45 | pyther | So I'm trying to use asterisks on openwrt, but I get a huge cpu spike when register => 17775556666:blah@callcentric.com is in my sip.conf |
| 21:18.58 | pyther | asterisk pegs the cpu 100% load until its killed |
| 21:19.02 | pyther | any ideas? |
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| 21:37.42 | jpsharp | Anything from the console during the registry attempt? Perhaps something is causing it to try to register over and over and over. |
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| 21:44.42 | WIMPy | And how long does it stay that way? |
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| 21:57.42 | pyther | jpsharp: how can I check |
| 21:57.48 | pyther | I didn't see anything |
| 21:57.57 | pyther | WIMPy: until I kill it |
| 21:58.16 | WIMPy | Any network activity? |
| 21:58.59 | TomCat2 | install pcap or winpcap + wireshark and check it out |
| 21:59.06 | TomCat2 | put it on a desktop on the same LAN |
| 21:59.26 | pyther | that isn't entirely true: http://pastebin.com/BcqGAMzj |
| 21:59.39 | pyther | yah its the router ;P |
| 22:00.39 | jpsharp | Looks like it is failing to do DNS lookup for itself. |
| 22:00.52 | WIMPy | Yes |
| 22:01.05 | pyther | lets see if I can fix that |
| 22:01.40 | jpsharp | Trying to bind the SIP socket to a hostname of OpenWRT, but it can't look that up. |
| 22:02.05 | pyther | ahh wouldn't that be something if that was the problem... |
| 22:02.33 | jpsharp | What version of Asterisk? That seems like kind of a silly bug, not very fault tolerant. |
| 22:02.47 | pyther | I've tried 1.8.10 and 1.8.14 |
| 22:03.26 | pyther | I'm on very strange hardware a MIPS box |
| 22:03.39 | pyther | that could be a whole other problem |
| 22:03.49 | jpsharp | Are you referencing a hostname somewhere in sip.conf? |
| 22:04.25 | pyther | no |
| 22:04.25 | jpsharp | lots of people are running * on their little routers. Hell, I ran it on NetBSD/sparc just to see if it would urn. |
| 22:04.29 | jpsharp | run |
| 22:04.59 | pyther | and I added openwrt to host and now it doesn't complain but its still hitting the cpu |
| 22:05.06 | WIMPy | should get back to tha one as well. |
| 22:05.09 | TomCat2 | makes me wonder if I might be able to revive an old device and repurpose it for * |
| 22:05.13 | pyther | thought its not registering |
| 22:05.21 | pyther | *though |
| 22:05.25 | pyther | can I debug registration? |
| 22:05.26 | TomCat2 | got one of these 4 years ago - has been sitting in a box in the closet the last 2: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GGI7ES/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 |
| 22:05.47 | WIMPy | sip set debug on |
| 22:06.17 | jpsharp | What WIMPy said. look a full debug and then pastebin it. |
| 22:06.20 | WIMPy | Isn;t it kind of boring to use hardware without telephony ports? |
| 22:06.37 | WIMPy | Or read it yourself :-) |
| 22:07.40 | phix | hai gang! |
| 22:07.51 | phix | and WIMPy |
| 22:08.06 | WIMPy | What does that mean? |
| 22:08.14 | pyther | what does it use to do a dns lookup, internal library or external command? |
| 22:08.39 | WIMPy | Did you configure dnsmgr? |
| 22:08.47 | jpsharp | gethostbyname, so the stuff built into libc. |
| 22:08.50 | pyther | no, do I have to? |
| 22:08.59 | pyther | http://pastebin.com/1G0kMX7m |
| 22:09.01 | pyther | not much output |
| 22:09.06 | WIMPy | No, but it can help. |
| 22:09.33 | phix | we offer openwrt support in here now? do we also support samba too? |
| 22:09.49 | WIMPy | For me dns updates didn;t work without dnsmgr. |
| 22:10.03 | phix | i need help with samba |
| 22:10.03 | WIMPy | Can you make calls via samba? |
| 22:10.59 | phix | in particular how to edit a tdb and ldb file |
| 22:11.07 | phix | :) |
| 22:11.22 | jpsharp | vi |
| 22:12.28 | pyther | WIMPy: that didn't help |
| 22:12.40 | WIMPy | pyther: Looks like you're using dnsmgr already. |
| 22:13.10 | pyther | disabling it doesn't help |
| 22:13.19 | TomCat2 | anyone ever attempted to install asterisk directly onto a PAP2? |
| 22:13.30 | WIMPy | Can you resolve the name from the shell? |
| 22:13.56 | WIMPy | TomCat2: Do you think it has enough storage? |
| 22:14.01 | TomCat2 | no idea |
| 22:14.04 | pyther | yah, using nslookup |
| 22:14.17 | pyther | everything worked on 1.8.7 |
| 22:14.20 | WIMPy | I'm pretty sure the answer is no. |
| 22:14.23 | pyther | haven't changed the configs |
| 22:15.20 | pyther | 1.8.7 has a bug where it won't play wav files |
| 22:19.13 | pyther | going to compile on my desktop, and make sure that the configs are faulty in anyway |
| 22:20.06 | WIMPy | Mabe a change in SRV lookups or something? |
| 22:21.54 | pyther | unlikely, it was all working fine this morning |
| 22:22.18 | WIMPy | Betwenn versions that is. |
| 22:23.00 | jpsharp | unrelated question: If I configure * to use realtime for the voicemail configuration, do I have to put *all* the configurations in Realtime? It doesn't seem to be reading the voicemail attachment message from the config file. |
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| 22:25.48 | pyther | so the configs are ok, runs fine on my desktop |
| 22:27.02 | pyther | I wish rpis were easier to come by |
| 22:27.26 | WIMPy | You can order more than one now. |
| 22:27.42 | pyther | yah, but won't help me get one any sooner |
| 22:28.16 | WIMPy | But the delivery time was also cut. |
| 22:28.49 | WIMPy | But there are plenty of small boards out there to choose from. |
| 22:29.25 | jpsharp | Soekris |
| 22:30.00 | pyther | I talked to a guy on craigslist about an itx system he had, he responed real fast, but then I asked about the model and he hasn't responded |
| 22:30.51 | pyther | jpsharp: a bit more than I'd like to spend |
| 22:31.05 | carrar | rasberry pi |
| 22:31.35 | pyther | carrar: 5 weeks ship time |
| 22:31.37 | WIMPy | Or you can even go for something specially for Asterisk. |
| 22:31.37 | pyther | need something today |
| 22:31.58 | pyther | the idea is nothing more than to hook up 2-3 phones |
| 22:32.16 | carrar | 30 mins or less? |
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| 22:32.43 | carrar | https://www.osburn.com/asterisk-sign.png |
| 22:33.04 | pyther | haha |
| 22:33.43 | pyther | was really hoping runnig things on the router would have been the solution |
| 22:43.26 | jpsharp | I wish they had included a "line in" on the RPi. That would have made a perfect board for a project. |
| 22:45.42 | gusto | so ... as far as i understand there is a firmware to this GSM base stations and that one is written in a programming language that is specifically developed for that machines in the telcos. so it's some kind of TELCO ITU standardized programming language, someone knows what is it's name? |
| 22:46.32 | WIMPy | Are you talking about ASN.1? But that's not a programming language. |
| 22:47.04 | gusto | i do not know what i am talking about actuallt |
| 22:47.10 | pyther | wonder why its failing to do the dns look up |
| 22:47.20 | WIMPy | thought so |
| 22:49.27 | gusto | pyther: you have dnsmgr enabled? |
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| 22:51.23 | pyther | ping |
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| 22:53.20 | phix | pong |
| 22:53.23 | pyther | gusto: yes its enabled, I've tried disabeling it, not luck |
| 22:54.35 | pyther | is there anyway I can run dnsmgr manually? |
| 22:55.18 | gusto | pyther: no, but you can adjust how often it should do refreshes of DNS |
| 22:55.20 | pyther | Weired |
| 22:55.27 | gusto | by default it refreshes every 5 minutes |
| 22:55.28 | pyther | I rebooted the router and everything is happy o_o |
| 22:55.53 | gusto | well |
| 22:55.55 | pyther | well this is good, I'd like to know what was wrong, but its working |
| 22:56.04 | TomCat2 | careful what you wish for |
| 22:56.35 | gusto | i mean asterisk's best thing are this prefetch capabilities |
| 22:56.36 | TomCat2 | else maybe you will be forced to figure out what was wrong due to it coming back :D |
| 22:56.47 | pyther | wait I might be wrong |
| 22:56.52 | WIMPy | If it only works by chance, that might not be ideal. |
| 22:56.55 | pyther | I think I restarted the wrong server |
| 22:57.00 | WIMPy | LOL |
| 22:57.04 | WIMPy | knows that one. |
| 22:57.08 | gusto | i thought that i would implement that way SQL queries also, so that it does not ask a database management system/server everytime shit happens |
| 22:57.24 | pyther | spoke to soon :-/ |
| 22:57.28 | gusto | and then i did read the book and exactly that idea is there |
| 22:57.35 | pyther | restarted asterisk on my desktop |
| 22:57.41 | pyther | :( got all excited |
| 22:57.44 | TomCat2 | looks like you're gonna get your wish after all |
| 22:57.48 | gusto | so the same idea that came to me was already implemented in asterisk |
| 22:58.39 | gusto | of course, dnsmgr is also a good way to preven DOS attacks on local DNS, but sometimes it would be really better to have him look it up every time someone connects |
| 22:59.28 | gusto | when you would have for example a local DNS server, than it would be OK, because even by a DOS attack it could bring down only the local DNS server |
| 22:59.48 | WIMPy | What the hack are you talking about again? |
| 22:59.56 | gusto | about dnsmgr |
| 23:00.08 | WIMPy | And how do you want to DOS that? |
| 23:00.14 | jpsharp | Just what the world needs. Another layer of DNS caching. |
| 23:00.35 | gusto | well, DNSmgr in asterisk does resolve the names to IP addresses, right? |
| 23:00.39 | WIMPy | I use dnsmgr so it doesn't cache. |
| 23:00.41 | TomCat2 | just memorize the IP address and never ever change it |
| 23:00.44 | WIMPy | no |
| 23:00.46 | gusto | and he does that every ... say 300 seconds by default |
| 23:01.22 | WIMPy | AFAIK there is nothing in Asterisk that does reverse lookups. |
| 23:01.28 | gusto | but you could theoretically also say that he should resolve that shit everytime someone connects, but that could potentially fire a lot of DNS queries when you have a lot of connections |
| 23:01.53 | gusto | i am not talking about reverse lookup |
| 23:02.00 | WIMPy | yes you are. |
| 23:02.05 | gusto | no |
| 23:02.22 | WIMPy | Then it makes even less sense. |
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| 23:03.05 | gusto | well, say you have a dyndns peer, right? n |
| 23:03.24 | gusto | now that idiots goes down, because his dsl connection reconnected, right? |
| 23:03.39 | phix | jpsharp: I use vi to edit a database? fair enough |
| 23:04.19 | gusto | but even if he refreshes the dyndns DNS record imediately, you still have to wait for your dnsmgr to get the new record and that takes as long as your interval is |
| 23:04.32 | WIMPy | correct |
| 23:04.35 | gusto | so |
| 23:04.40 | gusto | and that is the main problem |
| 23:05.21 | gusto | it would be easier to make him resolve that address every time ... but that would be less secure, because asterisk would have to fire a lot of on a DNS server then |
| 23:06.04 | jpsharp | how would querying a DNS server more be less secure? |
| 23:06.41 | gusto | well, theoretically, but not practically you could have a big number of that connections |
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| 23:07.08 | Freeaqingme | How stable is the gtalk stuff these days? |
| 23:07.15 | jpsharp | I use it all the time. |
| 23:07.16 | WIMPy | If you are ddosed, DNS lookups might not be your main problem. |
| 23:07.25 | gusto | it is not realistic, i know, but if all would do like reconnects - not even changing the IP addresses - it could bring the DNS under substantial load |
| 23:07.31 | jpsharp | One machine is not going to be able to DOS a DNS server. |
| 23:07.35 | WIMPy | Freeaqingme: Ask google when they plan their next change. |
| 23:08.03 | Freeaqingme | WIMPy, will do, but I know from 15 months ago that they did those all the time unannounced. has that improved since? |
| 23:08.38 | WIMPy | No idea. But it could just as well go the Skype route. You never know. |
| 23:08.58 | gusto | i agree that one machine could not bring down a DNS server having that one locally even less, but why is there this DNSMGR then? |
| 23:08.58 | Freeaqingme | google taken over by ms, that'd be fun ;) |
| 23:09.20 | WIMPy | Not that part :-) |
| 23:10.15 | gusto | wouldnt be easier to have some little implementation of DNS ... something like dnsmasq inside of asterisk - or used by asterisk then? |
| 23:11.35 | gusto | then one could get around this problem with DNSMGR's refresh times, because that one refreshes every shit, and does not care about it's TTL ... so it does even refresh when there is no need for it and does not refresh fast enough when it would be needed - for example on dyndns, where the TTL is typically 60 seconds |
| 23:13.06 | gusto | having dnsmgr refresh shit every 5 minutes also when nothing has changed is at least inefficient, right? |
| 23:17.46 | WIMPy | Noone cares about efficiency any more. |
| 23:18.31 | WIMPy | in the 90s noone (except the danes) wanted to use ATM because of the overhead. Now we use RTP with a lot more overhead and it seems to be fine. |
| 23:19.22 | WIMPy | AND ATM had a lot more advantages. |
| 23:20.29 | gusto | what do you mean by ATM? |
| 23:20.40 | gusto | is ATM not layer 2? |
| 23:21.05 | WIMPy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asynchronous_Transfer_Mode |
| 23:23.02 | gusto | es |
| 23:23.03 | gusto | yes |
| 23:23.17 | gusto | but what does ATM in common with IP/UDP/RTP? |
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| 23:23.41 | WIMPy | Transport data. |
| 23:24.39 | gusto | This differs from approaches such as the Internet Protocol or Ethernet that use variable sized packets or frames. ATM provides data link layer services that run over a wide range of OSI physical Layer links. |
| 23:24.43 | gusto | it is layer2 |
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| 23:34.20 | gusto | ok |
| 23:34.25 | gusto | i am going to sleep |
| 23:34.30 | gusto | good night everyone |
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